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Friday 24th March 2017, 1:50 PM

how is the wartime childrens song , ten german bombers , offensive , especialy when if the germans didnt send the bombers to blow the sh-t out of england , there wouldnt have been a song
if your english every thing you say is an offence to someone , we are just an offensive bunch according to the bbc and the rest of the liberal pra-ts who purport to be english
posted by old (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 2:03 PM
Y-a-w-n....if you have to ask....! Are you really going to use an event from 70 years ago to justify a xenophobic chant from two days ago.

Some people need to learn to live in the present and not the past that most of us would rather forget because we are not so perfect ourselves and have killed as many (if not more) innocent people across the world than most countries......
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 2:37 PM
These Middle Aged dickheads are one reason I don't give a toss about England International Football anymore.
posted by JBH (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:15 PM
not very patriotic , but if i remember a post of yours from about a year ago you admit to being not very patriotic , all about opinions
posted by stayaway (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:17 PM
post addressed to mst
posted by stayaway (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:18 PM
shame about brexit i loved a rumble on the continent , open borders were great for us fans
posted by c18 (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:25 PM
BBC very biased in there reporting . Most of em were in tears when we decided to leave The EU, and they just hate it when the economy is doing well.
posted by Fred (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:33 PM
3 countrys keeping 24 countrys above water of course we will do better , now germany can keep em , they always wanted europe now there blo-dy welcome , sorry should have said the !!united emirates of germany!!
posted by old (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:44 PM
Stayaway, I appreciate your post is somewhat tongue in cheek but if you really think songs about killing people from other countries is about patriotism whether done in jest or not well........
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:48 PM
Mst , How we live in the present , as you put it , is because what we did to the Germans in the past , English and proud !
posted by Marcus (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:55 PM
Would that be true about what we did to the Indians, the indigenous Australians and Americans, and every other country in the Commonwealth?? Oh, I'm so proud of our murderous past.........
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 4:09 PM
Mst , i take it you had no relatives bombed to bits or killed in action by those lovely germans , i did , and i will never forgive them .
posted by Marcus (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 4:35 PM
I have no doubt that there are millions of people around the world think the same about the English - about five million of them north of our own border.

Let he who casts the first stone be without sin (apparently) or those in glass houses, etc.....

What has any of this got to do with singing anti-Nazi songs at a football match in any case????
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 4:47 PM
The songs are sung because of what the germans did to us !
posted by Marcus (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 4:51 PM
Most who did the bombing Marcus are no longer alive can't blame there children anymore than you can blame me what the English did to other countries were all inter visuallys and should only be accountable for what we do lm not my brothers keeper
posted by DMK (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 4:53 PM
Marcus, just a tease but I would have thought how we live in the present is down to Steve Jobs mostly ;-))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 5:18 PM
Sincerely hope not . People spend too much time on i phones and computer gadgets these days and society is suffering as a result of this in my opinion for what that is worth.
posted by Dave g (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 6:15 PM
Regardless of past history think these chants show a lack of breeding and class like one or two other posts past caring about England football team !!! Shame really because the away support is very good spoilt by a few dickheads !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 6:24 PM
If you only give the politcians guns and put them in a small village and let them sort it out themselves there wont be any more wars. As long as them and theirs dont get killed wars will all ways appen
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 7:06 PM
they found my auntie up a tree , only one left alive , down strode rd , leg blown off ,, so f,em
posted by moreline (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 7:09 PM
54 Garvan Road, off Greyhound Road. October 10th 1940. Half the family wiped out. Happened to a lot of Fulham families, but no reason to keep going on about it. Marcus, Moreline, my sympathies but digging up old songs is sad and also not very inventive. Just my 2 cents. With respect. Jim
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 24th March 2017, 7:26 PM
We are a nation of pirates; we have hhistorically raided the world, plundered and stole, retreated to our island base and drawn up our drawbridge and viewed our wares. Despite thevtwo world wars we have a lot to answer for
posted by Keetch54 - Friday 24th March 2017, 7:35 PM
Well Keetchy, you could say that about every country. As to answering for the past, to who would we answer? BTW, my family name is Ratcliff.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 24th March 2017, 7:44 PM
A shed load of wrongs don't make a right!
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 7:59 PM
And why do we all ways celebrate death in this country bit sad really
posted by geezer (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 8:14 PM
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Friday 24th March 2017, 11:55 AM

just keep looking at the last run of fixtures and I've given our lads 15 more points...Giving us a total of 76 - will this be enough ?
Nice of you to give them 76 points, but what about the teams we play,how do they feel about it ?
posted by Fred (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 12:54 PM
I'm with you on 76 points as my forecast too but I originally had us beating Reading to sixth on goal difference with that tally. Now I'm not so sure....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 2:39 PM
at the moment this team dont look like they could buy another point , hope for the best ,i know il get bollok-d but i think maybe we will finish 8th behind norwich , win at rotherham will bring some confidence back
posted by peter (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:32 PM
Four points ahead of Norwich and Preston with a better goal difference so they have got to win two games to catch us.If we can keep within one point of Wednesday in the run in we've got a chance to pass them for sixth spot.Also Wednesday are on a dodgy run....lost two and drawn one of their last three games.They haven't got an easy run in either apart from maybe Rotherham.I still think we're in with a shout,could go to that last match with Wednesday and remember goal difference will be on our side...maybe a draw against them will be enough.
posted by Barnes Old Boy (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 4:50 PM
Wednesday are on a dodgy run because they lost 11 first teamers to injury and the international break will no doubt give some of them time to recover............It's gonna be tough but if we stop letting daft goals in then eminently doable in my (not so) humble opinion ;-).
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 5:21 PM
We will make the play offs for sure - in my(humble) opinion for what that is worth. Always look on the bright side of life and keep the faith
posted by Dave g (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 6:19 PM
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Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:17 PM

Just watched a lovely interview on the Fulham web site, by Ryan Sessegnon and what a lovely lad he seems to be. He also seems to be Fulham through and through, which is very encouraging, and I loved the credit that he gives not only to his team mates but to Scotty Parker in particular. I can't see him moving away from Fulham for at least two or three years yet.
I hope he stays but lovely guy or not money talks.
posted by JBH (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:46 PM
a lovely post ,,obviously from a planet not far away , but not the one rest of us all inhabit ,
posted by old (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:48 PM
It will be silly for him to go! Whatever the outcome is for Fulham, he's in the best place to spend his next couple of seasons. If we go up, he'd be playing in the premier league with no real pressure and in a familiar surrounding. If we don't, we should be a very strong team next season and our football suits him very well.

Unfortunately, if continues to attract the attentions he's getting, a club will come in with £20-£25m, and it will be extremely difficult for club to turn down. So the best scenario for us is probably viral a bidding war (e.g. £30m+) between big clubs on him and then a loan back for next season!
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 8:10 AM
there are loads of instances where the players joining a top club does not mean they will improve ! look at de bruyne and lukaku - 2 VERY talented players, who LOST a couple of years by sitting on the bench - hardly ever played... they both moved away, went to two decent clubs, everton and wolfsburg and blossomed - look at them now, both very very good players, for their club and country. it means NOTHING for RS if he moves to a so called "big club" if he just going to be sitting on the bench !!
posted by FFCinB (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 11:52 AM
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:46 PM
Never listen to rumours or gossip. Let's wait and see what happens. He is still our player until the end of the season that is fact.
posted by Dave g (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 8:03 PM
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Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:35 PM

Yes, its nice not having to worry about relegation for a change. However thats where it ends for me. We had a chance of getting into the top six with 2 home games against nothing special teams, ie Blackburn and Wolves, and what do we do, yes sdame old story, we struggle to a draw against Blackburn and roll over to Wolves. So, out of a possible 6 points we only manage one. This is totally unacceptable and shows how much loyalty and commitment is in these players, most of them from another planet. When you are paid what they get you dont expect bad days at the office and even worst accept it. Its clear to me that this shower are in a downward spiral again at a crucial time, its the same old Fulham, rely on them and they will let you down. I feel sorry for the poor guy and his son who have renewed their season tickets, they must have more money than sense, the latter in short supply amongst Fulham fans.
Why don't you go and support little Brentford then you won't have any expectations and won't have to moan.
posted by Midds (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:51 PM
Mr Bentarse IS a small bentford fan
posted by Marcus (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:09 PM
Roy, you are obviously not a real Fulham supporter with that attitude. I have been a supporter for more years than I can remember, and this sort of thing, happens on a regular basis, like losing 0-1 at home to Leicester, in 1982, with Dean Coney missing an open goal, and then losing 0-1 away to Derby County, on the last day of the season, when the crowd invaded the pitch and the game was never really finished, which robbed us of promotion, and then losing by the same score on the last day of the season in 1971, which gave Preston the 3rd Division title, although we did go up as well. I could go on and on, but just stick with it Roy, as you will also enjoy some brilliant times, like as recently winning at Newcastle. We might just make the play offs this season, and then again we might have to wait another season, but whatever happens this is our team, and it always will be.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:12 PM
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Thursday 23rd March 2017, 12:37 PM

Nice message posted on a London Underground station. " You terrorists will never win we Brits will have a cup of tea and jolly well carry on "
cause they will never win , the germans was a hand full and we see them off , this lot are dancing girls in comparison ,
posted by moreline (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:21 PM
the lion of africa had it right , he gave em 90 days , very reasonable , obviously not doctors and curry restaurant owners , reserved occupations
posted by moreline (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:27 PM
I'm so glad i live in Devon, however, my heart goes out to all those who were injured in yesterday's awful attack and to the families of those who lost their lives. God bless them all.
posted by Devon Bob (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:28 PM
i also live in a leafy area well outside london ,but when the bengal lancers realise its to dodgy for there cowardly antics around the capltol they will resort to the provinces , remember the ira
posted by probably safe in birmingham (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:47 PM
One small correction Moreline.The Lion of Africa was the Emperor Haile Selassie of Ethiopia not Idi Amin.
posted by N.W.6. (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 6:32 PM
i wouldnt av wanted to tell idi that , lol
posted by moreline (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 7:16 PM
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Thursday 23rd March 2017, 10:27 AM

My son and I Just renewed our season tickets. First time for a few years actually looking forward to next season whether it be in the Prem or Champs. Hope you all do yours along with many more who haven't had one this season.
You must have more money than sense. A good charity is far more deserving of your money. No you wont be in the prem as you call it. Not in a million years.
posted by roy bentarse (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:38 PM
agree about the prem , but chill were all dissapointed ,some just dont addmit it
posted by chill (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:48 PM
Neither will small bentford !
posted by Dave (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:12 PM
Renewed mine as well . Prem would be nice , but if not , Championship fine , makes no difference to my decision .
Yes there are things I dislike about the way the club is managed at times , but that does not change my support for the team .

We are making positive strides as a team ,great improvement this season against the previous three , but work in progress .
posted by davidk (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:26 PM
Bentarse is obviously an idiot's anagram of brentford.
posted by N.W.6. (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 6:35 PM
Not sure about renewing mine as if we are in the Championship I will miss most of the midweek matches.
posted by JBH (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 9:44 PM
it supports the club , so i dont mind if i miss a few games , thats the trouble these days its all about money !!..
posted by moreline (Guest) - Friday 24th March 2017, 3:37 PM
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Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 6:30 PM

Why have we only been allocated 896 tickets for Norwich Away?! Ok, our away support isn't always the strongest, but we took 1500 all the way to Newcastle the other week.....
Maybe we can get John down there to give a bit of argy bargy
posted by DG (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 9:31 AM
You sad person wasting your money to see this shower. The players are laughing at you behind your backs.
posted by roy bentarse (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:41 PM
Fu k off Bentarse you smallbrentford twat. You don't fool anyone
posted by DG (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 6:24 PM
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Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 5:40 PM

He used to say a bad news day
......and " top of the morning " , " big' orrer " amongst others
posted by DG (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 9:35 AM
he was famous for his dislike of musies ,
posted by hgk (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 12:40 PM
What has Terry Wogan done to deserve your comments. Show some respect Geezer. He might have liked football but had no interest in Fulham.
posted by roy bentarse (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:43 PM
He was irish , nuff said
posted by EDL (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:11 PM
A sure leave me a loan , I am only joking most of the time !!!
posted by Tezza - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 2:58 PM
roy you never listen to terry then. other wise you would have under stood what i put on and why think about it
posted by geezer (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 5:05 PM
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Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 9:09 AM

I used to be an avid England supporter and go to all the home games and some of the away games right back to the days when you used to collect loyalty caps in the England supporters club. I can't however, get enthused by the current manager or squad and will probably not even watch the game tonight.

It's not internationals in general but just England. Perhaps they are too much like Fulham and they will go and beat Germany 3-1 tonight and draw 0-0 with Lithuania on Sunday? Englandish ;-))?
they are playing tonight? oh forgot.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 9:43 AM
Yeah I agree. I use to be an avid England fan but have slowly lost interest over the years. Put it down to really poor preparation and performances at major tournaments, when we never realise our potential. The whole is never the sum of the parts. You can bank on Germany giving a good account of themselves at every tournament, even if their form in the run up is a bit fragile. You get the feeling that our players are all a bit prima donnaish and the lack of a real team spirit is all too obvious. Last time we had that spirit was in Bobby Robson's time. We have some quality players, but I always remember Sir Alf saying, when he was criticised for not playing Greaves, " I pick the best team, not the best players" I wonder do modern day managers have the balls to do that? Probably not they'd get crucified by our wonderful media! Thought Woy was going to do better and get them playing as a team, like he did with FFC and others, but think player power, a la Liverpool and Neville ruled the day. Let's hope Southgate proves the solution and me wrong.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 10:17 AM
Talking of England, must be a few " old uns" who remember 1961 England 9 Scotland 3 . Our Mr Haynes grabbed a couple, it's said that the Scotish goalie emigrated to Australia shortly after the match. Now if only we can get Nicola Sturgeon interested in football !!!!!
posted by Fred (Guest) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 4:44 PM
Haha, good shout Fred, I'll second that.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 6:30 PM
The maestro would have had three if Bobby Smith had passed to him instead of outragously chipping the keeper from 30 yards
posted by N.W.6. (Guest) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 6:37 PM
Sick to death at the interuption to our weekends wuth these so called international breaks. It has not made England a better team, lets be honest they are no better than League 2 level.
posted by roy bentarse (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:46 PM
In Germany most people do not even follow the qualifying matches for major tournaments. The The stadiums are filled at qualifying games because they travel round the country and each major city gets to see the national team. Germans dont even get interested in the national team until the Quarterfinals. They cant even concieve not qualifying. As for friendlies these are just so that the rest of the world can play the world champions. When Germany isn't European or world champion there FA dont play friendlies.
posted by Tezza - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 3:07 PM
Tezza is camp and needs to concentrate
posted by Plod (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 5:20 PM
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Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 8:21 AM

I'm from Switzerland and I would like to visit your game against Brentford. But the presale is just open for members and season ticket holders. When does the gneral sale starts for this game?
Approximately four weeks before the game usually.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 8:54 AM
Dont waste your money, stay in Switzerland mate.
posted by Roy Bentarse (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:48 PM
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Tuesday 21st March 2017, 7:01 PM

...When Denis Odoi wins man of the match. Wonder if anyone who attended the game actually voted?
I was at the game and i thought none of the team deserved a man of the match award. When the entire team play badly i believe that there should not a man of the match vote. However, had i voted for anyone after that game on saturday it would have been for Tim Ream, he at least put in a shift. COYW
posted by Devon Bob (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 7:33 PM
I agree about the MOTM comment but not Ream to be honest. Thought the kids at half time deserved it more - at least they could take pens ;-))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 7:55 PM
I think Odoi is one of our better defenders who should get more game time than he does. There is still a big worry for me that we will get bullied from now on in defence. The likes of rowett who is the new derby manager will jump all over our weaknesses. We must man up' in the defensive areas to have any chance in the play-offs. I know Ragnor had a nightmare of a game a few back now, but surely he can't be that bad? There are a few names on the bench that we could try out in the back department? Sess' isn't an option anymore, he likes to be involved a lot more up the pitch. MST' i really worry about our defence situation, everyone knows we are good going forward, but that is not always going to save us. Unless fulham can score 3-4 goals every week. We are capable of scoring lots of goals, but that is not always going to happen. Aluko is probably close to player of the year behind cairney. Aluko is one of the best link up man at fulham i have seen, and he is contributing to the goals tally a lot more. We could do with Chris Martin while we still have him chipping a few in. I don't know if slavisa will take the time to sort out both defence and tweek the formation up front now and again. At corners, why we can't be a lot more effective i don't know? and penalties. These little problems are derailing our season...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 9:36 PM
Clearly there is a cumulative effect of playing five games in 14 days. Mourinho was moaning about it and he has a squad of 30 players who are internationals. Joka is basically playing with a squad of 18 players. I think the criticism of the boys for saturdays game is way over the top. The way we play, decisions have to be made at pace up front and when you are mentally jaded this is always going to be very difficult. They'll be fine after the break. Just eight games in 8 weeks. It'll feel like a long holiday!
posted by bassim - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 11:19 PM
What break? Most of them will be playing two international games...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 6:04 AM
I agree with Bob. Interesting that Odoi had his fan club there, from his previous club. The gang in the Riverside with the yellow kit and banners. Thought that was a really pleasing display to a former player. No sour grapes nice to see. So pleased that he came off the bench and got the MOTM, somebody has to I wouldn't begrudge him it. Probably they all voted and influenced the outcome. Nice little story, in a sea of cynicism:)
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 9:58 AM
Mentally jaded my foot. With the money they are getting you must be having a laugh. There are youngsters out there who would play for Fulham for nothing. Agents and money have destroyed our game.This team aint going anywhere get over it.
posted by Roy Bentarse (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 1:51 PM
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following an earlier post from freddie fulham anybody remember a game at hurlingham park , about and this is very approximate 1977,ish johhny haynes , tosh chamberlain , and a few others , couple of hundred people turned up , haynsy spraying the ball about as you would expect ,tosh basically aving a laugh , good day wish i could remember the teams and why it was played ,
I remember many years ago turning up early at the cottage for a league game and found our opponents that day Doncaster Rovers who had also arrived early having a kick around in Bishops Park.
posted by Bert (Guest) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 12:04 PM
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Tuesday 21st March 2017, 12:29 PM

Do you think our pitch is too small for our style of play and hence, why we are the worst team at home in the top 10? our pitch size is 109x71yrds where's Newcastle is 114x74yrds!
Our players aren't very big !!
posted by Fred (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 12:32 PM
I've always thought that John to be honest. I agree 100%.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 12:39 PM
glad you agree MST. The thing is, a smaller pitch invites more crowd trouble. Don't suspect we'll see any against Ipswich, but you never know.
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 1:43 PM
Heard some excuses in my time but this one beats all.
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 4:36 PM
Smaller pitch crowd trouble ?????
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 5:40 PM
Len, we do have small pitch and it does get congested.

Crowd trouble is just typical John on the wind, and you just bit ;-).

posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 7:26 PM
A little bit of info. Fulham used to have the widest pitch in the league in the 60s, the smallest length wise was Leicester City at Filbert Street.Makes no difference to the present team whatever the size, they are useless and must feel lucky that they have not had to make the acquaintance of Sutton United lately.
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Tuesday 21st March 2017, 11:20 AM

Everyone from 3rd to 9th has a eye on the plyoffs but at the moment realistically it looks like its between 5th - 9th. We are all doom and gloom after our first defeat in 9. Imagine how we would feel if 8 ago you were in 6th place and 6 point ahead of 7th place. You would be thinking the playoffs were a cert imagine to effect on moral of dropping out at this stage !!! I think we can do 6th place but I think it would be a real bonus getting there asap.A bad result for anyone at this stage takes on a huge significance and dropping out of the top 6 in April I think would really knock the wind out of a team.
Kind of agree but realistically we need a six point cushion by the time we play Huddersfield away because the last thing we need is it coming down the last game of the season away at SWFC.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 11:25 AM
that is so right mst , even if only for the blood pressure
posted by tosh (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 12:24 PM
Basically you want to slip into 6th place on the last game or 2 so you are really feeling over the moon and you want the team in 2nd place to drop to 3rd on the last game of the season. When this happens the 3rd place team is so deflated they just give up.
posted by Tezza - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 2:03 PM
If by chance we land up in playoffs. Huddersfield would be nice for starters eleven better at wrmbey. Won't happen though. For a couple of reasons !! One being there average and how they got 70 odd points baffling seem them a few times not impressed. Allied to fact there director on talk sport a while back said he did not want to see ffc anytime soon wonder why !!!
posted by Len i (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 6:24 PM
If it comes down to us or Sheffield Wed on the last game of the season then so be it, because if we had to win it would be in our own hands.
posted by JBH (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 9:54 PM
Len put that bottle down ;-)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 6:24 AM
It is suprising how many times the team finishing sixth wins promotion.
posted by Bert (Guest) - Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 12:07 PM
looking good for norwich then bert , sorry
posted by hgk (Guest) - Thursday 23rd March 2017, 12:43 PM
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Tuesday 21st March 2017, 10:35 AM

It seems most of our first choice players are away on international duty with most likely to play two games in a week.

I guess it shows the increasing quality of our squad and team but where is this well earned rest we were hoping the players would get??

On a separate but related note, what is the point of playing an international friendly when there are competitive games in the same week? Is this gap filling and who is responsible for the player's welfare!? This is ludicrous in my opinion!!

Fingers crossed they all come back unscathed.

Simple answer is - MONEY!
posted by FFC (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 10:47 AM
Quit right FFC- money appears to more important than anything else , not only in football
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Monday 20th March 2017, 10:42 PM

While searching for name on the latest Forbes rich list, it appears Shahid Khan has closed the gap on Roman Abramovich by less than a billion at 8.2bln or no. 159 richest man in the world. I don't think the state money of Man City counts. I think the Russian money in Arsenal is probably discounted too. The Barclay brothers money for Spurs are lost in a web of accounts. So therefore, I think we officially have the 2nd Richest owner in UK, probably Europe! Hope when we get promoted, he will share a small piece of that with Fulham FC!
When is the building of the riverside stand going to start seems to of gone on the back burner !
posted by David (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 7:44 AM
Does it really matter David we can't fill the stadium at the moment in any case. If it were your money would you increase the capacity when you can't currently fill the ground? I certainly wouldn't.

Great that we have (arguably) the 2nd richest owner in English football; just a shame the Football league won't allow him to spend much of his hard earned on players for Fulham due to FFP.
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MST ,nothing is certain in football,thus you either take a chance or dont bother.The fact that we dont fill the groung at present is irelevant.We are not playing SPURS,CHELSEA,ARSENAL,both MANCHESTERS et al.We have an old ground,and if we got promotion the away end would be packed.In shortthe groung potential would be limited as at present it is not big enough.As i say you either take a chance,or show your ambition.No point in waiting for promotion,you cannot put up a new stand in minutes.
posted by v r bedley (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 12:20 PM
ffp was made for khan, hes got it tattoed on his a-se
posted by tosh (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 12:26 PM
There is still lots of ways Khan could spend his money on Fulham if he really wanted to. His wealth has grown by $1.5bn
posted by Jim (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 7:17 PM
Its funny how it's all about money and in my humble opinion it's money that is killing our game and most thing's come to that matter, a little is nice to much is dangerous you know what I mean comrade's
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Well we are entering the international break on the back of our first league defeat in 9 matches and are just one point outside the play-offs with 8 games to go and if someone had said that to me at the start of the season I would have been surprised but happy, so that is what I am feeling now, Saturday's game was a poor performance from the team overall however despite that we are still in the mix, so lets keep the faith take the positives and get behind the team for the rest of the season.

Hear hear!!
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 20th March 2017, 4:58 PM
My feelings exactly JBH
posted by Freddie Fulham (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 8:24 PM
i hope so
posted by moreline (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 12:28 AM
All I hope for is not to hear that FFC played the best football but gave away preventable goals AGAIN, and lost (or could only salvage a point). There has just been too many games where it has happened, and that's not promotion form, is it?
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 5:32 AM
What the &^$"£ has that got to do with this thread!?
posted by JBH (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 3:17 PM
You should read your title, JBH, and then read my post again.
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....I wondered if anyone knew if this site was genuine (I'd like to make a donation) or how it might be possible to find out?

I am not sure (the url is donation - not dec!) but I have a very strong doubt. If you want to make a donation go to www.dec.org.uk and follow a link from their website! this way, you know it is real.
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 3:16 PM
Thanks John.
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MST. at the top on the right hand side there is a 'Contact' button, you could try that.
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Thanks Baz, I will.
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Walking back on Saturday with 3 Fulham fans and the general sense of a opinion is we are not ready to go up, need another year and very much work in progress. My view is while there maybe some truth in this I would still like to make the playoffs and give it ago. Like they say in Independence Day' I'm obsess with the the' fat lady and until she starts singing I want to go for the playoffs and promotion, and Wembley. (Yes Geezer I know it's £8 per pint but we only get to Wembley every 40 years (if that). Are Huddersfield fans saying because they got stuffed at Bristol it's all over. Yes there is a point of going up only to come straight back down I know, but my question was would we keep the likes of Cairney, Ryan Sess, and would we get the investment we need if we DONT go up. Is my heart ruling my head?
Fred , Huddersfield have a lot more points than us so can afford to be a bit laid back and not look to worried. As for the team staying,i don't think many of this squad will look to go any were, only Cairney and sess can see greener grass, allow for loans returning and we are quite thread bare.
posted by the bishop (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 1:32 PM
BLOODY HELL.how come Cairney is not in best team in championship but Malone is? who on earth picked it the sun news paper?.
posted by the bishop (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 1:48 PM
You make a good point Freddie. We are too inconsistent to win anything this year and if you look at the squad, no amount of training is going to change that. Too many of our players are not up to it. But I don't blame them. I reckon SJ is getting the best out of them and has earned the right to nominate his own new players for next season. Meantime, the experience of playing in the play-offs (Wembley more so) would be invaluable. Finally, why should Cairney leave? We managed to keep Haynes and Cohen. Surely that wasn't only about money?
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 2:33 PM
Often wondered why they stayed neither ended up rich.Can only assume someone made them reasonably well paid at the time..
posted by the bishop (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 2:46 PM
Wasn't Haynes the first £100 per week player? If so you would assume that was as a result of a negotiation that kept him at the club. Maybe someone knows more?
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 20th March 2017, 2:54 PM
Tommy trinder said he would make john the first £100.00 per week footballer if the maximum wage was abolished. When jimmy hill,the chairman of the pfa achieved this as a result of his negotiations he had to honour his promise
posted by Dave g (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 3:56 PM
£8 a pint!!!!!!! people must be bloody mad,take a half bottle of vodka with you and scoff it in the bog. I
posted by jimjim (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 7:29 PM
I think you will find it was 100 a week from Fulham, and a good few quid on top from Tommy Trinder and the rest of the board otherwise he would have been off to pastures new such as Spurs
posted by Keetch54 - Monday 20th March 2017, 7:53 PM
Thanks lads for your thoughts, has far as comparing Cairney with Haynes apart from them both wearing the No.10 shirt, the massive sum of £60,000 (maybe the equivalent of £80m today) was offered from Newcastle for Haynes, Robson, and Jezzard but all stayed at the Cottage. It seems that player's heads are more easily turned these days. But you wouldn't turn down a trip to Wembley though ?
posted by Freddie Fulham (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 8:22 PM
Money was mot the priority for john or he could have left fulham on a number of occasions. The fact is he enjoyed playing for the club and with people he looked on as friends as well as team mates. It was a different world then. Interestingly the only photo he had of his playing days in hisvflat in edinburgh was a head and shoukders one of bobby keetch!
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posted by Keetch54 - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 7:21 AM
I remember Johnny Haynes kicking off a friendly match hearts v fulham weds 21st july 1999 , the following saturday i went up to Perth to see us play St Johnstone . Anybody else on here go to these games ?
posted by Sw6 (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 10:51 AM
What we don't know is after Haynes got his £100 a week,what happened to other top stars of the day , how much were they then offered.The bubble had bursted so Haynes and cohen must have been paid by someone with big pockets.
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Fulham were knocked out on penalties to Norwich in the Last 16 round after an explosive 5-5 draw.

Perhaps we should ask if we can have a corner instead............wait a minute, we don't score from those either....
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Perhaps this break will give us a chance to regroup and prepare for what should be a hectic dash for a play- off place. At least we have the exiting prospect of watching England play Lithuania !!!!
If you think we looked knackered on Saturday wait till end of April, all hard games, no more easy games they think they can just turn up and the points are in the bag.What I don't understand is why they are so knackered, have not the other teams all played the same games?were Wolves knackered,Blackburn, knackered ? never noticed it, any way that excuse will do.
posted by the bishop (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 1:27 PM
I'll miss the Lithuania game; really heartbroken. Talking about being knackered, any footballer so claiming should find another sport. Look at the top six in premier league, especially Man U (who I dislike but give credit etc...). Against Middlesborough, I thought Smalling and Jones both looked worn out but they still won.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 2:41 PM
In 15 years time, INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL WILL DISAPPEAR. In the same way we don't have national teams for American supports such as baseball, basketball, American football, etc. National sports will only exist in Olympic. What FIFA and EUFA don't realise is their ambition to remove exclusion (of countries who barely can put a team out that can a Ryman league team) from football is a catalyst for this trend!


posted by John (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 3:11 PM
Playing five games in fifteen days feels like quite a big ask. And with the international break, isn't Cairney in Scotland's squad? He definitely looks as if he needs the rest.
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We will need to adjust and do a few things a bit differently from now on at fulham. I think other teams, especially the teams below us have cottoned on to our weaknesses. Our defence is suspect big time, we are getting bullied even more in a lot of games. The wolves game was one of the worst. And everyone's right about sess, he isn't a defender. I love our football passing game this season, 23 passes and bingo' piazon slots home! Sometimes we need to get the ball up a lot quicker, and sometimes we will need to be a lot more direct! Dare i say this? There might even be a role for Chris Martin yet... We are still developing as a team and our passing game is always open to mistakes. What do we do now we are very close to a play-off place? Fulham can carry on playing the way we play and if we do? we all have to accept that we will make mistakes. We all want premeirship football for fulham, but it comes at a cost. Financially the chairman will have to pump big money in to boost the squad,to even stand a chance of consolidating/ staying up... Our type of football is crying out for a 'Edan Hazzard' he keeps the ball, and a stronger midfielder like cante. We could do with a cahill at the back and a costa like player up front. I will stop rambling on now, because i suspect i am turning into a chelsea.... On a serious note,' we have a week off. I suggest we call a meeting with all fulham staff and players, chairman manager everyone, even supporters.How ambitious are we? How do we go on from here? Do we need to change something? ECT,ECT,ECT.....
Some good points are made here.

In summary, which team would you rather watch - A Guardiola (attack attack attack) or Mourinho (defend defend defend) team? Given we will never have the resources to win major trophies, I personally would rather watch some good football and accept a leaking defence! The dream is to have a Conte - who has found a great balance (and not looking boring like Man U).
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 9:21 AM
Agree with you John. I would much rather watch a 3-2 or 4-3 (even a 4-4 provided we got the last goal) than a boring 0-0 or even a boring 1-0.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 20th March 2017, 9:34 AM
There all ok to watch as long as we are winning, Keegan had it right, score more than you let in , easy.!
posted by the bishop (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 2:35 PM
id take a right shi-ty 1-0 to ffc any day
posted by moreline (Guest) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 12:47 AM
Of course if I was just looking at the results I'd take a boring 1-0 every time but to watch turgid football week in week out? What would be the point of attending games? I go to football matches to be entertained and I hope Fulham win every week but if we are talking crap football by both sides and nicking every game 1-0 I'd rather go down the park and watch the local Sunday team.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 21st March 2017, 6:20 AM
Fulham are playing the most attractive football in the championship by a mile.I am still very nervous though, at the way we concede late goals. I know from reading our message board that most people would be ticked off if we miss a promotion, especially by conceding goals in the last minute. We tend to blame the chairman for buying cheap players, is the favourite moan on here. I can see fulham breaking into the play-offs, but there are alarm bells in the back of my mind for good reasons, and you guys know the concern. I hope i am wrong and we don't slip up and don't make promotion. It is just a horrible thought process, especially if the obvious mistakes were made in the finals to go up.We don't really know the future, but whatever happens promotion or not? we take the results either way. Next season is the crunch season in whatever league we find ourselves...
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With Leeds and Reading winning, realistically there is only one place in the top six up for grabs now in my opinion. Sheffield Wednesday have lost momentum due to their injury crisis and 11 first team players crocked. The international break will give them the time they need to get some key players fit so Fulham will really need to up their game if we are going to sneak into the play-offs. It's not impossible but we cannot afford to drop any more points at home and we need at least one point (on average) from our away games. Fingers crossed - COYW.
i think we will be put 2 bed last game of the season at sheffield , , it was a great try , martin has a lot 2 answer 4 , sort out a pen taker , and most importent , keep the squad together coyw next season
posted by moreline (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 8:32 PM
Long way to go - a few years back Reading were outside top 6 and stormed auto promotion. Keep the faith.
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Why we don't ask Khan to delete those bloody clappers? They are stopping the crowd from singing... Khan put those things because in the USA they are in every NFL. Sorry but here in Europe we prefer to sing for our team.
As much as I agree , we had those clappers with Al Feyed. Long before Khan.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 8:15 PM
Come on surely Khan is to blame. He needs to allow the real ale bar to stay open longer. He has a lot to answer for.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 11:08 PM
khans to blame for a lot more than clappers
posted by hgk (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 11:18 PM
So Khan is now responsible for the lack of atmosphere in the ground? I really have heard it all now - Crikey!!

As long as I can remember the atmosphere has never been much different for the last 40 years at Craven Cottage - clappers or no clappers.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 20th March 2017, 1:13 PM
Going back to the days when watneys, and Hastings furnishings,and the Telegraph had hoardings on the riverside the noise was fantastic, standing amongst the old Holborn, Bovril, and trilby hats, it got quite deafening and all comers were mixed no segregation.
posted by the bishop (Guest) - Monday 20th March 2017, 2:41 PM
Of course you have to remember they were no posh boys from the BBc to stand on the riverside,just Fulham oiks who liked the breeze and smell from the river.
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They need are help now more than ever. 8 games to go.
Should be our
posted by Jim (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 5:48 PM
Jim I try but it's like flogging a dead horse. All they want to do is bang those bloody clapper things to something that resembles Queens ' we will rock you'. The wolves fans came back with "what the fu King hell was that"
posted by DG (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 6:03 PM
Shame the JH & the Riverside aren't as vocal as The Hammy End. The riverside AKA the monastery sounds like it's taken a vow of silence
posted by DG (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 6:30 PM
Sat in the Riverside near you lot as usual. Didn't hear much support yesterday.You cheer one day and boo the next.
posted by HArry LONGBALL (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 6:40 PM
I agree with that. I'm actually in the JH stand. I'm not trying to slag off our own fans, but I'm old school and like a noisy support. It really does help
posted by DG (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 8:19 PM
We smack them to Car Wash really annoys the old fart in front - is it you?
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That's what we are (except the normally finish 4th!)
Not this year.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 6:04 PM
Rich mans Arsenal as we still have a club that connects with the fans and gets kids a season ticket for 60 noted. If you want Arsenal bugger off - no AW jokes on that front
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Whilst I appreciate things are so much better under SJ, the idea that he is some kind of master tactician puzzles me. To take off Malone and put on Martin and leave Sess at full back lost us the game. Whatever the potential, Sess is a 16 year old kid who was ruthlessly exposed when he reverted to full back, and should never have started at full back yesterday. He is what old timers would describe as an attacking wing hslf, albeit with a fantastic future in front of him in that position. But like most on this site, I agree, yesterday they looked knackered.
Initial comment abour Sess reffers to Blackburn game
posted by Keetch54 - Sunday 19th March 2017, 3:59 PM
Did think the tactics were a bit suspect yesterday. Good as Sessingnon is, he is only 16 years of age and to play him game after game looks a bit suspect. Also Aluko is most effective playing wide. Think Cyriac should have started Kebano and Aluko playing predominantly to the right and left. Cyriac has proved to be such a trier and has caused concern to defences each time he's played. Sure he's a player who gets better with game time. One thing I do know, is that their corners are lamentable. Whether they can't get it past the first post or that's the instructions I don't know. What I do know is it ain't working, can't remember the last goal we've scored from a corner. That is by the way something Cyriac is better at than the rest, heading a football. A corner is a free unchallenged cross into the opponents area, an invaluable opportunity to score. Surely for professional footballers it can't be that hard to deliver a ball into the goalmouth. Cairney does make the team tick and he seems to have gone walk about since his international call and his award. Must be playing on his mind. They all looked really knackered too, only good thing is everyone has got end of season nerves and we're still not out of it. So chins up, we'll get there particularly if it's true that Piazon will be back soon. COYW.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 4:33 PM
know exactly wot you mean , after the blackburn game complete madness to do it again , the boy is a boy after aii , not up to intense pressure , malone plays all of both games maybe we would be a couple of points better off
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Sorry guys you blew it ,no actually you bottled it,5 points dropped at home to teams under us in 4 days, Wednesday now have the incentive to up there game, once again a manager tells us we are best team in division whilst laughing as his team takes all 3 points from us. All this pretty pretty stuff is ok but you have to be prepared to add muscle , which we dont have,oh for some of WBA giants In our squad, with Norwich and preston, sitting on our arses will we ever get into top 6?not with the ballet style football we keep playing we still aint moved since xmas for all the results we have had because when push came to shove we never completed the full circle. gutted just bleedin gutted. Oh yes have noticed the cardboard defence is back.Can we not mix ballet with balls ?.
What I would like to say in our favour is that !the ballet boys!have produced the second highest goal tally in the division so it aint all bad. but with the defence masquerading as a cardboard cut out the job has become twice as hard ,so we have to adapt using some muscle what we dont have, so that's SJ and his teams fault.
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Matt Smith sold to our nearest rivals, Cauley Woodrow and Lasse Vigen Christensend sent out on loan to Burton. Just when we need options up front.....was this at all wise and do you think that Cauley just called up into the English Under 21 side should be sold as rumoured to Burton Albion ? We should not have loaned a centre forward but got someone to assist Tomas Kalas in defence!
Most would agree that when we are ay our best we are as good - if not better than most of the Championship sides. But somehow we have to grind out points when we are not at our best. Perhaps we arnt set up for this type of game- thoughts Gents
posted by Fred (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 12:45 PM
Def not Fred, don't have any physical presence, some times its like primery school v big boys class.
posted by the bishop (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 1:21 PM
Im sure our manager knows the sort of make- up he wants for Fulham , guess we have to be patient and see what this summer brings in the way of transfers. One things for sure IF we do manage to go up our present set up couldn't cope with big boys ! So would we rather have another season in the championship and build a good solid unit or go up and come straight down ?
posted by Fred (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 2:28 PM
I did manage to get home to see the second half of the Leeds v Brighton match yesterday, and I was left thinking, that if we had to play either of these sides in a play off spot, we would have from little to no chance of winning. The same applies to Sheffield Wednesday. They all look much, much stronger than us, and they don't mess around with pretty football, they get on with the job of knocking teams out of their stride, and putting the ball into the net, which on both counts we would be left wanting. In my opinion, we will do very well to avoid a top 6 spot this season, and just play out the season, win lose or draw to gain experience for an a real go next season. I don't want us to reach a top 6 place and then get slaughtered, home and away by one of the others. We have to some extent enjoyed to our squad we can then win the title in 2018.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 4:20 PM
I should have said, that to some extent we have enjoyed our season, and that by adding to our squad in the summer, we should go on to win the title in 2018. Sorry for missing half a sentence. Ooops ! !
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What is this about Norwich? They lost 5 1 against Sheffield a couple of weeks ago and first win in quite a few and their run in is horrendous. If a week is a long time on politics and then it is even longer in football! Obviously a disaster today and Cairney couldn't pick a pass so our creativity was gone. These things happen. Facts are we are still in touching distance despite everything going pear shaped since the 95th minute v Blackburn. In the 93rd minute, we were on our way to Wembley. Whether we are good enough to stay up is another question? The gulf between the premiership and the championship is so big.
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Our home form is 10th in the table. We need to roar our team to the playoffs
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That won't happen. Most of the crowd is as flat as a witches tit. If it wasn't for the clappers you'd think everyone was dead
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Agree DG - our support is crap...sad but true.
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Come on we have our moments
posted by Andy S (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 12:42 AM
Sums up this site, now slagging the fans. The Hammy end is a cauldron of noise. Do you know the Scott Malone song if not your not fans who sing anyway.
posted by Bob (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 6:25 AM
The manager wasn't allowed to sign the decent players he wanted in the transfer and because the squad is so small he is forced to 'flog'the same players all the time some of the players clearly need resting
posted by FFC SUPPORTER (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 6:36 AM
Sorry if you think that way, but i'm not slagging off our fans - i just think we are crap compared to other clubs and its true !! as Always; away we're not that bad, but home ? How anyone can say the hammy end is a cauldron of noise....oh please !!
posted by FFCinB (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 8:12 AM
Well I'm sure the players can hear the Hammersmith end , but you can't hear much from the JH stand. Sorry but that's it. Keep it up in there though. COYW
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Newcastle drew , Brighton lost , Huddersfield lost , Reading won , Leeds won , Sheff Wed lost , Fulham lost , Preston drew , Norwich won , Derby drew , Barnsley lost , Aston Villa won. Top 12 teams 4 wins 3 draws and 5 losses . Be realistic here the run in to the end of the season is affecting all these teams . Pick one who's had a decent run apart from Fulham , none , everybody is going thru an out of sorts form . Thankfully we have an international break which will refreshen all and go for the final push .
Unfortunately, it seems Norwich have the momentum to beat us to a play-off spot. They have one great advantage - been there, done it, we haven't. Our game against them is going to be critical. As are the ones against Derby and Brentford who will be out to cane us, and Huddersfield and Wednesday away who will also be out to put us in the also-rans. With seven April matches, it's going to be hectic.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 5:44 AM
Stephen I think you predicted we would be relegated this season and Khan had to go or we had no chance. Enjoy the ride.
posted by Bob (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 6:26 AM
Have faith, look at our record this season. We always seem to do better against the better teams. And we have plenty of those to come.
posted by Bert (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 2:03 PM
Bob - that was another stephen, not me. When we were looking for a new manager to replace Symonds, I posted on here that Jok was the best choice well before they appointed him. As for the ride, I'm too old for roller coasters, and I wish Jok would teach our defenders how to defend, and not give easy goals away - as he said all three goals were preventable, so he needs to teach the boys just how to do that.
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Ok guys it's been a poor week but it could have been worse. We have 8 games left and find ourselves 1 point outside the playoffs. I feel maybe the players have gotten a bit ahead of themselves this week thinking Blackburn would be easy and wolves would be easy! When we go behind like today or aren't Playing great the fans seem to get nervy which doesn't help the players. I would love to reach the playoffs and still feel we have a great chance to do so but I am just enjoying the football and enjoying not being in a relegation scrap! Anything else is a bonus after the past couple of seasons!I think after the international break the players will kick on and we will nick the last playoff spot but it will be close and there will be more days like today along the way! Let's just get behind the boys! COYW!
The greatest threat to a play off spot is Norwich, IMO. They've been here before and know what's needed to sustain a run over the next 8 games. Unless we stop making stupid defence errors and LEARN how not to give away easy goals, we'll falter at the post.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 5:30 AM
Before the panic sets in, suggest you have a look at Norwich's remaining fixtures,
posted by Cousin Jack (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 9:44 AM
Yeah seen all of Norwich Citys remaining fixtures , Villa , Huddersfield , Us , Reading , Preston , Brighton , Leeds and Who.p.r . Eyewatering to say the least , can't see Norwich going anywhere with that . Good one there , Cousin Jack , give the whiners here a moments peace .
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 3:08 PM
Norwich are too trigger happy sacking managers, and a good one that comes to mind was 'Chris Houghton' I think they will have Egg on their faces (HER FACE,DEAR DELIA) when it comes to the play-offs!!!
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Shahid gave him the freebies and the loanies. SJ has created a near miracle. Bergerac was never going to be an Alan Shearer and Martin does not even want to be here. Just imagine if we got promoted, Shahid would look at the Vanorama for deals.
AND, next season, like this...the important players will be off, probably for good fees and replaced with............guess what?
posted by mike (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:24 PM
Agreed. If we did get promoted, Khan would just be looking to snaffle the tv money & parachute payments again after relegation !
posted by Morgs (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:26 PM
Sorry mike , not getting the Bergeac thing.
posted by ???? (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 9:10 PM
I agree that we haven't really got strength in depth and when our best players leave (except by some miracle we get promoted) we're back to square one with Jok rebuilding our squad for another season. And if we did make it to the EPL, I'm sure we'll suffer the same fate as Boro, that is fighting against relegation every week. And that won't be fun to watch.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 5:34 AM
What utter nonsense. We haven't sold any player other than the two strikers who were out of contract and face it Ros is not so good after all. We have bought in the most exciting attacking team in the division. We have defensive frailties but it's not due to a lack of support and buying loads of defenders. It's been a great season. Turn around. And all you do is moan. Christ almighty you are so sad. You don't reflect the great support our club has, its unique ground and attacking play good football philosophy.
posted by Bob (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 6:30 AM
ross wasnt out of conract , as for the rest of em , well they wernt very popular , couldnt give em away
posted by hgk (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 5:33 PM
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Disappointed with today's result and display. I think Janko in his post match comments tried to paint a more positive picture of the game than what we saw today. The team looked jaded.
We lost our fitness level.
We lost the precision in ever pass.
We lost Wolves players in all departments.
We lost our balance throughout the game.
We lost our 2 wing backs in the game.

BUT HEY - we didn't lose the top 6 teams - we are only 1 point behind with significant better goal difference!! we have 8 matches left and if we are good enough, we will be in the top 6! So let's see. I am confident we will regroup and start another run of wins.
Much better season not good enough to go up manger needs to get tactically defence more aware been fond out
posted by DMk (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:54 PM
We also found out that Sessegnon is NOT a defender - play him in midfield or up front out wide - BUT not at fullback - 2 of today's goals came from his inability to defend properly. He is a great prospect, but tactically naive and I think SJ made a mistake not playing Malone at left back with Sessegnon up front and also should have played Martin instead of Ayite to give a bit of much needed 'muscle' - a thing we sadly lacked today against a more physical side. The international break has come just in time - we miss Scott Parker's backup in midfield and our players need a rest and then to push on to the play-offs.
posted by JohnBoy (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:57 PM
Agree, JB, however I think CM has gone AWOL and will probably sit out the remaining games. Which will make it much sweeter when we thrash Derby.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 5:26 AM
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Great last week Cr*p this week Thats life !
Jason that's life as a Fulham supporter. Tuesday and today not good enough.
posted by Darin (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 7:33 PM
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 7:23 PM

Outfought , outplayed, tactics wrong and got worse when Macdonald taken off as no muscle in midfield . Our pygmy front line is no match for a rugged tall dfefence , no penetration at all , constantly running into crowded blind alleys and we have no chance with anything over 4 foot in the air , and there seems little communication between them. Well beaten , and it could have been more . On the plus side , this time in the last two seasons we have been looking at a relegation fight - after relegation the year before - so there are reasons to be happy , but today so dissapointng
Keep saying we need a better balance have to start Martin up top for variation and height !! Regardless of how you feel about him
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:11 PM
Talking about us being poor in the air, did you see Smith scored in the fifth min for QPR.
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With his left foot.
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Kebano & Cyriac aren't good enough to be anything other than subs, ( neither works for the team ) & SJ doesn't want to play Martin, which means we have a bit of a problem. We don't have enough players to put in the "hard yards".Promotion seems highly unlikely.
I think we bottled it today. Maybe we are not ready for promotion, it would be heartbreaking to get to the Prem just to get done every week.
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Agree totally,so what are you doing about it.You pick our defenders.mate.
Absolutely, successful teams are built on a solid defense.
posted by Bean (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 7:22 PM
Manager got to take blame set the team up to leak goals .l won't him to succeed but he makes the same mistakes he's been fond out needs plan B learn to set a team up that can defend or we're never get better leaves them so exposed
posted by DMK (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 7:43 PM
Manager must take most of blame the way he set them up Cyriac should have started Sessegnon left exposed at 16 will destroy him needed to started Malone beginning to think he's a one track phoney Wolves had a easy day bad tactics
posted by Badger (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 7:57 PM
Who would you pick in defence then? This is what he has been left with! He never signed anyone. Most pathetic post i've read. Read his previous reports. He knows how many mistakes we make at the back. This squad was chosen for him. Once again those signing the players in January let the club down. We were desperate for a Centre back and a decent forward. Instead they sign a midfielder thats never been seen since! SJ said I now have players and have to work out how they fit into my team. It's not his fault he has a player like Martin throwing the toys out of his pram and SJ has handled the situation superbly. It's not his fault we have possibly the smallest squad in the league because we had to clear out the rubbish and they were not replaced. When you have a team that needs to score 3 goals to have a chance of winning every match no matter where the opposition are in the league and you're playing twice a week at a quick tempo with very limited players available of course they'll get tired. Anyone that blames SJ and all the other idiots that talk about Smith and co being decent players and the answers are delusional. They had their chances same as Madl and Sigurdsson. Unfortunately Ream is a disaster waiting to happen but we have no alternatives. I suppose you want Symons back! Good luck with that one!
posted by Jake (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 2:07 PM
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Don't give up hope yet folk's,i think we can still break into the top 6 and force our way into the play-offs. We just need that break and time to reflect about our season so far. We have done well so far, and i think the warning signs were there last week against blackburn. I have said all along that we need to freshen up, especially up front. That final ball of penetration to goal is not there. I would give the likes of cyriac a full debut now. It is obvious that every time he comes on, he is running his life for that ball. That is what we need from a bench player,and every player. Dennis odi should play from the start, and we know enough about our defence by now? Fulham will always concede goals with our present line up in defence, and wolves would know this from the first game up at molineuxe. Lets go into this break and come out fighting for the remaining games and push for the play-offs.We can do it! We are FULHAM!!!
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:51 PM

I thought that today's performance was almost as bad as any other game we have played this season. Not only did we lose, but we also lost any chance of finishing in the top 6, and that could be a blessing in disguise, as quite frankly today showed, what must of us have honestly believed, that we just haven't got it when push comes to shove, and we have lost our nerve at the wrong time. I am sorry, but any team who can't get 6 points from two home games against relegation candidates, are not going to win anything. Let's face it, compared from the last few seasons, this has been a good one, and providing that the Khan's put their hands in their pockets and support Joka in the summer, and strengthens the side we should be up there challenging again next season, but promotion automatically, could still be another couple of seasons away, but with a fair wind and a fine sail, we will get there eventually. COYW
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:50 PM

Lambert new he could just catch Fulham on break will never go up till learn to defend pretty Football is nice but must defend we've been found out Malone should have started as good as Sessegnon is he's only 16 and can't defended . When McDonald went off no cover for defence. We're not Barcelona and put oushelves pushing it round the back manger must let them sometimes clear there lines. Got some nice footballers but need some tough players who can grind out results and play ugly it was easy for Wolves were not ready to go up and need a plan B
Agree totally, we looked tired today,Other managers have got SJ sussed. They defend well and hit us on the break knowing we has a crap defence.Ream and Button . Their no 17 got in behind us with no problems. Then we panic. Pray that SJ is not a one tactic manager .Hope I'm wrong but doubt we will go much further.
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 7:12 PM
Most open secret in championship keep behind ball . Hold on break and press wait for inevitable mistake score and defend if you score again bonus a few teams have done that to us this season
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:19 PM
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:48 PM

Ones thing's for sure this is a tough league and you can not bank on any result 1 point out of a certain six I thought we may get .and the teams at the bottom have got some fine players still better than last year .sulking now. thank christ for swedish tv on a saturday night (not porn) sub titles and all, night ,night
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:26 PM

Ok, so result today was poor, but not the end of the world - we'll move on, we'll regroup and hit Rotherham hard. I sense though we're going to struggle to break into the Top 6 with the attacking line up we started with today. Aluko - Ayite - Kebano are quick and nifty, but end product is often very poor. Without a genuine centre forward playing, we looked very light-weight in attack / didn't really cause Wolves any genuine problems (apart from Odoi's goal from range). Would there have been a different outcome if Martin had started? Yes, he's not as quick as Ayite, yes he's a bit fat, yes it's not as popular, but his link up play is just as sharp as Ayite's, he's a good target man and most importantly he actually scores regularly. Think only Cairney has scored more than Martin? Cyriac might be another answer, but don't feel he offers anything different to Kebano / Ayite?
ah the mighty rotherham , yes lets regroup
posted by harpo (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:34 PM
We have one major problem
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:47 PM
Ayite was very poor today,may be he is not fully fit.No big men up front for the corners,it is a shame we sold Matty Smith.
posted by Mike Guest (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 7:09 PM
Yes Geeezer its called tactics plan b,of which we dont appear to have one.
posted by the bishop (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 12:11 PM
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 5:57 PM

Now will those people listen when we were moaning about our lack of signings in January (and I mean a decent centre back!). Instead we signed a midfielder that will never get into probably the best midfields in the divison. SJ has moved mountains to get this team playing the football it does (not today) but when you need to score 3 every game to have a chance of winning it will catch up on you. Such a shame we appear not to have anyone that is capable of attacking a corner. With the defence we have and lack of goals from our numerous corners plus a sulky centre forward not to forget penalty misses it's nothing short of a miracle we are where we are! Superb football at times. A few tweaks and we are there! COYW's (and listern to the coach over the summer when he says what he needs to improve the squad).
l heard khan is giving janko the cheque book , only trouble its got provident stamped on it
posted by hgk (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:33 PM
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 5:28 PM

Lets just face it we are just not good enough to go up !!!!!!!!!!!!
Typical. We hit a bad week and Royee's back
posted by DG (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 5:51 PM
posted by royee (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 5:52 PM
Royee-totally agree with you! c.ant beat Blackburn and Wolves were a mid table team no better.
posted by doom (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:19 PM
im back 2 , we lost it feeis like sh-t so im moaning
posted by moreline (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:26 PM
It's not the moaning. It's the people that only come on here to moan when something goes wrong. At least you post at other times moreline, good or bad
posted by DG (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:30 PM
Crowd at Fulham doesn't help much either.
posted by DG (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 6:44 PM
Problem is neither are the teams above us saw Huddersfield Friday average. Better than when we played them but how there up there god only knows Bristol took them apart !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:23 PM
Thought wolves played well personally got a couple of very good players they've been in a false position !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:26 PM
Wolves and Blackburn are both fighting hard to stay in the division. They know that Sess is great going forward, but in defence, he is too lightweight and most of the goals against came when he didn;t have Malone to cover.
posted by Bert (Guest) - Sunday 19th March 2017, 2:19 PM
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 4:55 PM

wednsday and leeds well happy
f,them , im worried about norwich , there right up our bottle
posted by peter (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 4:58 PM
you could not make this up,total cr-p
posted by royee (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 4:58 PM
Dont despair lads - there will be lots of twists and turns before the seasons over
posted by Fred (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 4:59 PM
Our home form is dreadful
posted by Jim (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 5:04 PM
2 home games 5 polnts dropped that aint no twist and turn
posted by old (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 5:12 PM
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 2:33 PM

Wolves will not be a pushover, and we need to be a lot more focused when defending today. From what i have seen from cyriac who looks very good, i think he has shown enough about him to give him a full debut today! Maybe floyde aite could feature from the start? I would just like fulham to push on and win this game today, and a clean sheet would be great. We had a big lead against wolves earlier on in the season, but alarmingly our defense had a shocker! Let's go out focused on the win today, and tighten up at the back with a clean sheet. COME ON FULHAM!!! PLAY-OFFS!!!
A clean sheet with Button in goal and Ream in the team. Even Kalas is dropping down to his level. We always need to score 3 to have a chance to win. Today 4! Forget going up. Let's keep what we've got and invest in defence especially someone that can head a ball. Just imagine if we had someone that could score from a corner, defend solidly and score a penalty. Long way off a premiership side but fantastic to watch (normally). Here's to building for next season!
posted by Jake (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 4:45 PM
1 trick ponys , no variety , we dont need anymore pygmies , cf and ch needed all season ,
posted by moreline (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 4:53 PM
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 2:25 PM

You have had 2 bites of the cherry my son,now eat the whole bleedin lot, do not mess this up ,2 point up before the break will be fine and if leeds get done even better. I have no wish to hide over weekend in the cellar so get the job done.
losing 1-0, shame , people dont like you saying it but our all seeing owner let us down in january , still not all over , but it probably is
posted by hgk (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 3:53 PM
2-1 come on a pi-s poor point is better than nothing coyw
posted by hgk (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 4:16 PM
dont tell me , i already know ream was brilliant
posted by old (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 4:49 PM
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Saturday 18th March 2017, 7:24 AM

Is a funny old game. Look at last nights games. Wolves wont be easy.
And statistics dont means jack all. S WED poss 53 per cent shots 21 corners 11 on target 9 and still lost 2 nil. H field poss 62 per cent shots 12 on target 5 and lost 4 nil If you carnt put that little white ball over that little white you dont win jack all.
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 8:43 AM
Totally agree Geezer,but there is one statistic that does matter.Ive just had a quick shifty at our results through the season and there are only 9 Championship games that we haven't conceded at least one goal.Which means we're a bit too drafty at the back for my liking.It also means we've got to score at least two or three goals per game to make sure of the three points.
posted by Old Barnes Boy (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 9:12 AM
Surely last nights result will finally convince those who try to work out how many points clubs will get that these sort of upsets have and will always occur it's all part of football. Having said that we SHOULD win today!!
posted by Fred (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 9:14 AM
It's our chance to get a foot in the door and gate crash the top six party. I think some of them thought they were safe. Now they are crapping it. COYW
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 9:40 AM
Still think FFC possession football is the way to play and opportunities in front of goal will happen against Blackburn in second half we lost the ball in mid field too often manager had to take off Johansen and try something else but it didn't work pity we have such a small squad
posted by FFC SUPPORTER (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 9:43 AM
Remember Sep 1959? I bloody do,it's seared into my memory.Today is the perfect time to exact revenge.It's payback time.COYW!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by N.W.6. (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 9:58 AM
It will be a very tough game today. Wolves work hard (like Blackburn) but if we are not jaded like Tuesday, we should win. As long as we don't lose, we will go into international break in the top 6. For me that's very important to come back feeling more energised and rather playing catch-up! Janko is a great manager and unlike guardiloa is not a one trick pony - he will change the tactics to maintain in the top 6. COYW
posted by John (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 10:17 AM
john , he tried to change it on tuesday he needed someone to hold the ball up , martin came on, weather he was trying or not he was pretty poor , even janko needs the tools to do the job
posted by tosh (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 10:53 AM
N.W.6....yes I remember like it was yesterday 9 bloody nil.I was 13 at the time and Fulham was my life back then(before girls).I remember going through a torrid time with my pi## taking Chelsea school mates.Great days though
posted by Barnes Old Boy (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 10:56 AM
We will not lose today full stop!!
posted by Mr Jinx (Guest) - Saturday 18th March 2017, 12:40 PM

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