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Sunday 20th April 2014, 11:27 AM



 
We had a great chance of getting something at White Heart Lane on Saturday, Spurs were there for the taking and we DID NOT take that opportunity. The team was set up in a negative fashion, the mentality was all wrong, which has cost us dearly. Felix Magath said he didn't think Fulham could win this game, this IS NOT the kind of attitude you need from a manager. Sunderland showed us how its done with a victory at Stamford Bridge. We should go into every game to win, not just to make up the numbers. The next three games we need to win, which I just cant see. The talk about winning the two home games is no guarantee. I just hope the manager, players and staff prove me wrong.
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Spot on, no fight again, when it went 3-1 you still need to do all you can but they looked like they had given up. Roddy can put his new car back on hold, he had a few chances and should have taken one, we move the ball around well but no cutting edge. why not bring Darren bent on at 3-1, we got nothing to lose,
posted by GAZZA (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 12:13 PM
 
 
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I will be glad when its over one way or another I sort of enjoyed Sunderlands win just to see the faces and reactions of chelsea bench and supporters real scum-bags no class can we win our next 3 games simply as that if not we deserve to go down i will take the under 18s to win cup to soften the blow
 
 
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Sunday 20th April 2014, 9:15 AM



 
I think losing Al-fayed was a bigger blow than one might have anticipated. Changes in ownership surely have a major impact on clubs. He made his mistakes at first, sure, but he became a steady hand on the tiller. When he decided to sell the club - a strategy that would have been months in implementing - then it would have been in his interest to pay big money to better players, more than the club could really afford, to put us safely into the Premier League. Having achieved that, and found a prospective buyer, then that's why budgets would have been reduced, key players eventually weren't replaced, players who demanded still more money were shipped out, and you end up with the 'Championship' players we have now. Truthfully there is not one player, except perhaps Stockdale, who has shown enough that might make other PL clubs interested.
 
 
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Sunday 20th April 2014, 8:44 AM



 
We cannot stay up with Hangeland Amoribieta and Riise in our defence . We get out muscled at every set piece . You would think Hangeland at 6'6" could handle cross balls he has been hopeless all season . I hope Burn plays the last three matches at least he attempts to get involved. Also I don't think they have passed to a white shirt from defence all season just give the ball away all the time especially yesterday at WHL
 
 
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Saturday 19th April 2014, 11:57 PM



 
I am very sorry to say, that our stay in the Premier League, is well and truly over. Sunderland's win at Chelsea this evening has put us down, and now it is just a matter of who goes with us. With homes games against WBA, Cardiff and Swansea, and only an away games against Man United, to come, it looks like Norwich and Cardiff will be joining us. As has been pointed out, by others on this board, to have any chance, we would have to win all 3 matches, and that just ain't going to happen. It has been nice while it lasted, or has it ? I am sure that we will all enjoy the Championship much more, as winning will bring a smile to our faces, and not the dread of the next fixtures coming up. Hopefully, we can rebuild, over the season, by getting rid of the deadwood, and bringing in some bright new faces. Don't worry too much, we will be back in one season under Felix.
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Sorry I meant to say, that with Sunderland's games to come, with WBA, Cardiff and Swansea, and Man United away, they now look safe.
posted by OPTIMISTIC (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 12:01 AM
 
"Don't worry too much, we will be back in one season under Felix." OK so that explains your handle. Unfortunately I don't share your optimism about a rebound.
posted by Hints (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 12:14 AM
 
It all depends, Hints, on whether we keep Magath, Heitinga and Reiter (hope so) bring in our youngsters (Roberts, Woodrow, Dembele, Burn) and get Khan to buy 3 solid Championship players, including a class left back and a midfield general like Murphy. I'd keep Stockdale, Sidwell, Richardson, Degajah (maybe Parker and Mitroglou) and offload the rest. I'd also change the UK management team - not because of the inept way we think they have managed, but to bring in fresh faces and new brooms to work with Magath.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 4:56 AM
 
I have hardly slept at all last night, after yesterday's results, as I fear that we have now little chance of staying up. Then I think to myself, it is only a game after all, and whatever division we are in, we are still Fulham fans. In truth, if we take the season overall, we deserve to be where we are, and not getting shot of Jol earlier was a huge mistake. Rene was not given time, and Felix was a panic appointment, although under the circumstances he hasn't done too badly. I hope he stays next season, so that he can prove that he is a good manager. We bought in the Greek as our saviour, and he hasn't played a complete game yet. A real disaster. On the other hand, he could be a sensation in the Championship. The biggest let down has been our defence, which has been awful, and the goals we let in yesterday, were a joke. Defending at it's worst. Like some of you others, I believe that the Championship will be quite a pleasant experience, as we should be either at the top, or very near it. Let's put 2013/14 behind us, and look for a new beginning in 2014/15, and then I might be able to sleep well again.



































posted by LONG TIME SUPPORTER (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 7:51 AM
 
I don't know why my name was omitted from the above letter ?
posted by LONG TIME SUPPORTER (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 8:40 AM
 
Frankly I couldn't careless if we go down. Championship football is good and I am bored of watching us loose home and away to top teams and managers too short term to give the kids a go. What we need is a consistent team with youngsters in and around it. We all agree that. Let's hope next season we find it where ever we are playing as without it the enjoyment is gone
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 9:01 AM
 
 
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Saturday 19th April 2014, 10:09 PM



 
Are people on Hee seriously suggesting that Felix is 'resting' players for the last three games? I said it a few weeks back and I'll repeat it. He thinks we are crap and will only survive with 1-0 wins. He's right about the first bit but no one in their right mind will expect us to keep three straight clean sheets. I don't want to slate Brede because I think he's done enough over the years to deserve a little more respect but his touch has definitely gone. My real gripe is the way the players set up. Every time the ball comes to one of the many many holding midfielders their body shape was facing our own goal. It means they have been sent out to receive the ball and pass backwards. Even a Sunday league team would eventually work out that if they press higher up they will get free kicks and chances. It's all so negative it makes me want to weep.
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I just wish we could put the same side out for more than one match in a row. It almost looks as though team selection is by random number generator. I'm not sure many of us would have fancied getting anything from this fixture, but it was a inept manner and lack of effort that really got my goat!
posted by Hints (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 11:24 PM
 
It was agonising to watch highly-paid premiership players dilly dally about with no clue what to do with the ball apart from giving it back to a spurs player. It seems like the whole squad has run out of steam and this makeshift team selection was diabolical - no-one knew their defensive job. I could go on, but what's the point, our team doesn't fight to the bitter end. Fine them all a week's wages, have double training sessions each day this week and make the point quite clear that if they don't work they don't play.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 5:07 AM
 
 
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Saturday 19th April 2014, 8:45 PM



 
Have, today, tried their hardest to relegate us. Fuckwits!!
 
 
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Saturday 19th April 2014, 8:03 PM



 
Todays results may well have sealed Fulhams future in the EPL,
Chelsea was the banker home win, Swansea weren't fancied to beat Newcastle away, Cardiff were unlucky to only get a draw and Crystal Palace keep rolling on.
To complete the perfect Easter all we need is for Norwich to upset Liverpool and West Brom to get something at Man City.

I think we now need to win the last three games and keep our fingers crossed.

Come on you whites.
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Whatever chance we might have had of survival, went straight out of the window today. All the clubs at the bottom are pulling rabbits out of the hats, and we are not producing anything at all. We will now have to win all of our 3 remaining games, and quite frankly, I don't see us winning any of them. What worries me, is that Sunderland will be one of our main challengers for promotion next season, and they look a far better bet than us for the title, on present form.
posted by LONG TIME SUPPORTER (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 8:36 PM
 
 
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Bollocks!
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I hate to say it, we are now favourites for the drop again... no more momentum...
posted by chilifries (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 7:41 PM
 
Cardiff favourites, Norwich second, us third.
posted by Steve (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 7:58 PM
 
Actually today doesn't change a thing. We need 7 points. Simple as that....except we are simply not good enough to get them
posted by Te (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 8:30 PM
 
 
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Saturday 19th April 2014, 7:04 PM



 
When, not if we go down who will take the blame for this shambles. Ever since Roy left we employed crap managers and sold decent players .Nobody took any notice of warnings from us fans of the consequences. Magath IS a good manager but all too late. I will lay you people a 100/1 that teflon Mac and the other useless board members will survive ,but will FULHAM?
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I agree we haven't had the right manager but what good players have we sold? Dembele had a clause in his contract which we could do nothing about but I can't think of any great loses. Zamora had no interest is injury prone and can't even get in the QPR starting 11. Johnson was continually injured, Berbatov and Ruiz never performed, Dempsey was poor after he left us. Who else was there other than Murphy, who was passed it,. The problem was not bringing in new talent.
posted by Steve (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 7:53 PM
 
The biggest mistake was sticking with Jol for too long
posted by RR (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 8:31 PM
 
Jol shouldn't have been allowed to start this season but it took Khan far to long to realise. Again back to bad advice.
posted by Steve (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 8:44 PM
 
 
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Three things ruined the day for me today, the over zealous jobs worth spurs stewards! Our lack of ability to defend a set piece and finally kacaniklic giving up running on a long pass right in front of us!!!! Pissed off
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Adam...agree with all of the above..ESPECIALLY kacaniklic!!
posted by Mark666 (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 10:09 PM
 
Its a shame they don't show what he did on Motd! The highlights actually showed him as one of our best players, he was like a frightened schoolboy, he shit himself when anyone came near him... Anyone got any idea where Reither, diarra and Richardson were today? Why is amorabieta in the side I front of burn? At least burn heads the fuckin thing!
posted by Adam (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 11:13 PM
 
kacaniklic as always been far to lightweight in my opinion,the odd bit of skill here and there,but not on a consistent basis,and his attitude today is just what you want to see when fighting a relegation battle...NOT!!Despite the changes today for whatever reason,i thought the team did ok for the first half,despite the goal,and at half time,being a bit daft as i am,i thought we could actually nick something from the game.However I came back to reality with a bloody big bump on 48 minutes mind you!!
posted by Mark666 (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 1:28 AM
 
Still trying to work out if it was a mistake selling Senderos,and i really cant believe i am going to say this,but amorabieta is possibly worse,than our formal bald swiss international!!Burn needs to play defo!!!
posted by Mark666 (Guest) - Sunday 20th April 2014, 1:34 AM
 
 
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We have fallen to a two card trick today,we committed 2 fouls and gave Spurs 2 goals. both free kicks were identical both goals were taken in the same fashion. Time after time we won the ball in defence only to pass the ball back to a Spurs player. I've mentioned before how Hangeland is a shadow of the player he was, today has proved my point,I hate to say it but Hangeland wouldn't get into me team anymore,I'd pick Burns every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Thankfully I don't think todays result will matter, we will still get to 36 point which will just be enough to avoid relegation.
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Just don't understand why you believe 36 points will be enough. It would have been with a decent goal difference, but I believe it will take 37 to survive
posted by Te (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 2:58 PM
 
Cmon cardiff an swansea!!!!
posted by bees (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 3:03 PM
 
Starting to think we will not get any thing from remaining games, watching to days shambles, why do we think we will be invincible for the last three games. Not a chance with substitutions like to day .
posted by george south (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 3:16 PM
 
Starting to think we will not get any thing from remaining games, watching to days shambles, why do we think we will be invincible for the last three games. Not a chance with substitutions like to day .
posted by george south (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 3:17 PM
 
Te, I'ts only my opinion we will finish on 36 points but never the less I have Norwich,Cardiff and Sunderland finishing bottom
Bees, I can understand why you would like to see Fulham relegated, But I'm lost for words why you would want 2 Welsh clubs to beat the drop, maybe your Welsh, if not do you Know where Wales is located, for away games it is further than Craven Cottage.
posted by John Dee (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 4:01 PM
 
JD....I pray you are right!
posted by Te (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 4:09 PM
 
Stocky didn't have a shot to save in 90 minutes, but we still manage to lose 3-1. We are hanging so many hopes on winning our 2 home games, but the way Palace are playing, that is no certainty, and even Hull might be hard to beat. I really thought that we would nick a point today, and we did play well at times. I just feel that now the cards are being stacked against us, and I have a horrible feeling that, we have shot our bolt, and time is almost up.
posted by OPTIMISTIC (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 4:30 PM
 
As JD says, 2 unnecessary fouls, 2 goals. Why can't we defend set pieces?
Plus a gift missed by Sidwell. No excuse for that.
Spurs were the better side and deserved to win. Even so, with a bit more sense up top we could have stolen 3 points today. Cardiff are making fight of it. If Heightinger is out for a couple of games we are in deep trouble. We are far from safe. I still forecast 4 points though but suspect it will not be enough..
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 4:45 PM
 
I don't care if we stay up or go down I just want the whole squad to go so we can start to see proper football again win or lose.
posted by Nick (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 6:55 PM
 
I agree and do really wonder if any of our defenders have a brain between them. To fall for the same free kick twice in such a short time is really inexcusable and shows a lack of concentration. Also I am sorry to say that Sidwell, who was probably our best player, used the same lack of intelligence when tacking the penalty kick. He put it in the same place as his last two penalties. Now we all know that any goalkeeper is going to do his homework and Lloris knew exactly where Sidwell placed his penalty kicks and just went where the odds would favour him. Sidwell obliged. If player had some intelligence and used it, we could have got a result today. I also agree that, unfortunately, Hangeland has become a liability in my opinion. However, I do trust in Magath and he sees and knows these players on a daily basis. But I too would have thought Burn to be more reliable.
posted by Haynes et al (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 6:56 PM
 
 
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I'm afraid that our performance last week against Norwich showed the lack of progress that was masked by weak opposition. This week proved what I had feared. Let's just pray for Cardiff to come to our rescue....but don't bet on it. We now need 7 points out of 3 games, and there is little evidence that our manager has any clue as to what his best starting line up is. Yes, we may be fitter, but that's about it
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Have to agree,Te. The extra day off should would have been better spent learning how to defend
posted by Rr (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 2:55 PM
 
Report for breakfast Sunday 8am and spend the whole f**king week making sure everyone knows his job in how to f**king defend. And as has been mentioned - drop Hangeland for Pete's sake, install Sidwell as captain and we might just get it right next season with a whole new squad.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 3:10 PM
 
STEPHEN YOUR BEGINNING TO COME OUT OF THE FOG
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Why bring Zverotic on? We're 3-1 down and need a goal. Take Heitinga off and bring on a striker. Bent says he can score goals, let him prove it, or give Woodrow another run out.
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Quite right but I thought poor team selection all round . Hangeland is now a liability I am sorry to say. Amoribieta can't pass a ball to his own team and no one would step forward to hit the penalty ! Where was Richardson Reither Diarra etc supporters were not told they were injured.
posted by ffc supporter (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 2:58 PM
 
Exactly. Bloody placebos coming from Magath, who I suspect is saving his best players for the final three matches, which we could only lose by the odd goal or so. I suspect that the higher-ups knew we wouldn't win against Spurs, so why risk Richardson, Reiter and uncle tom cobbly. Anyway - we're much better placed playing Brentford next season.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 3:05 PM
 
 
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perhaps Magath will get us a defence that can deal with crosses for next season,thats three goals so far that Burn could have dealt with,we are onto a hiding today ,and to spurs reserves!!!
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15 minutes left and we looked like we has given up. Handed a lifeline and we can't even score from the spot. Bloody awful..
posted by Hints (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 2:21 PM
 
Was this really the best substitutes we could muster ?. Doomed is the word the others now know what they need to do.
posted by george south (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 2:36 PM
 
I'm most disappointed with our performance, which is the understatement of the year. I f**king hope we get f**king relegated, I'm so f**king mad. We deserved zero points today, when the match was up for grabs against a poor Spurs side. Abysmal defending - yet again. Hasn't it sunk in yet that Burn needs to play instead of that no-good anymore Hangeland - in fact he should step down as a noble act and be praised by us for being a man who knows he's past it. And everyone should know who to mark in the penalty area - and the penalty taker should also be chosen before the match.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 2:58 PM
 
I said that the moment we gave the managers job to a coach we were doomed (Muelensteen) and so it has proved! He had at least 15 games to go and was an appalling appointment.
Cant blame Magath he has done well under difficult circumstances.
I agree with the comment that Hangeland should have been dropped in favour of Burn who was very quick and very effective, at least Muelensteen saw how vulnberable Hangeland was and is.
Get rid of all our deadwood and build a decent defence Mr Magath (if you get the chance!)
All very sad.
posted by eric (Guest) - Saturday 19th April 2014, 6:18 PM
 

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