How much is brighton paying this ref. Thee dives one goal. Hope brighton lose
Honestly can't see your point Geezer. Brighton have been brilliant in my opinion and are unlucky not to be winning the tie.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 16th May 2016, 8:54 PM
the first three around the box were dives . We had the same trouble all last season. Very bad refs And brighton did the same to us.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Monday 16th May 2016, 9:17 PM
It's great entertainment. But with 20 minutes left, reckon Brighton are spent. And unlike our lot, Wednesday demonstrating how to defend set pieces, especially free kicks around the penalty area.
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Monday 16th May 2016, 9:18 PM
Surely time for a rethink on the ridiculous play off system. If you finish 15 points ahead of an opponent it is a joke that they get another chance to beat you to promotion. The play offs were installed as an artificial means to create end of season drama and more to the point to create more revenue. A flippant remark by the fired up commentator must have rubbed salt into the Brighton wounds. He believed that it was a tad unfortunate for Brighton to miss out after such a great points tally and particularly to a team 15 points inferior. He went on to justify the situation with the smug comment " Thems the breaks" Twat. Time to kick this contrived nonsense into touch and return to the old fashioned system where the best teams over the course of a long tough season actually reap the rewards.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 5:49 AM
Absolutely spot on eddie. Its all down to doe and that f'''''king tele. If that had been Fulham them points clear we would have been well p''''ssed off.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 7:40 AM
I can see where your coming from Eddie but the LMA signed up to the change, so on balance it was a democratic vote that put the play-offs in place. If the vote was retaken at the end of the season than I suspect there would be no more than half a dozen that would vote against and they would be those managers of clubs who missed out on promotion.
If you disagree with the English system; what about the Scottish system where the club at the top of the relegation candidates plays off against the club at the top of the promotion candidates in the league below? Now, that, in my opinion, is unfair as the up and coming clubs are in better form and so much more likely to see the club in the lower league promoted.
Finally, we spent (or at least I did) the first part of last season looking at what results were required to get Fulham into sixth place; how would you feel now if Fulham were in Sheffield Wednesday's position. I know I would love a day out at Wembley after 41 years of waiting. It has always been great for us to get promoted automatically but I have always thought that doing it in the play-offs must be better.
I agree that it is about excitement for the TV and revenues for the clubs, league and TV companies but it is also great for the fans - isn't it?
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 8:05 AM
fantasticaly exciting feel sorry for brighton great tv ,,,they gotta stay
posted by moreline (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 9:21 AM
If the team finishing in 6th place, are 10 points or more behind the 3rd placed team in the play offs, the highest team should receive a 1 goal start. It will break my heart if we finish 3rd next season, and then lose in the play offs. I would not like to be a Brighton supporter this morning. All that hard work over the season, and now having to start all over again next season. It will have knocked the stuffing out of the players, and they will probably be nowhere near the top next season. It can be a cruel game at times.
posted by AC (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 9:22 AM
Don't worry you've got no chance breaking yr heart unless you meant 3rd from bottom!
posted by fof (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 9:32 AM
fof, what and old misery you are. 3rd from the bottom, are you having a laugh, or maybe you are a Brentford supporter. Let's be positive, and we will finish top next season, with Newcastle our nearest challengers 2nd.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 10:24 AM
Rules is rules...so tough luck Brighton! It could be Fulham next season! But this is not the first season finishing third and missing out on promotion.
The league can make it even more exciting doing the same at the bottom. That is, 2 go straight down and the next 4 play a mini-league at a neutral ground to see who goes down. This would keep every team on their toes for the full season!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 10:35 AM
In answer to MST concerning a top 6 finish for Fulham and a day out at Wembley I am afraid I am a bit old school. Any team finishing below the top 3 in any division really shouldn't be promoted. I would go as far as to say top 2 but in this day and age that remark would be close to heresy. I am realistic enough to realise that the play offs are here to stay but the format could certainly use a bit of tweaking. Perhaps 3rd place team should be given the advantage of an automatic place in a play off final at least that would be some reward for their efforts 4th place team should automatically qualify for a one off semi final with home advantage. Their opponents would be the winners of a 5th v 6th place one off match the team finishing in 5th spot gaining home advantage. The end of season trophy junkies would be slightly confused at first but would remain happy with their fix and the clubs would at least gain some advantage for their superior campaigns. And before any one says it Yes I am a miserable old sod
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 10:58 AM
Brian stop it your hilarious shd be on stage
posted by fof (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 11:29 AM
Eddie has a point I think if we want to reward the team doing best over the course of the season, the idea of 6th vs 5th, winner plays 4th and winner plays 3rd makes sense to me! This would minimise the number of games and also prevents in previous seasons where clubs try to place their positions to avoid certain teams in semi.
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 11:30 AM
If it's a good idea and makes sense the chances are that it will never be implemented!
posted by Fred (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 12:00 PM
Best thing that ever happened three quarters of division have something to play for most of the season. Unlike the old days season over for most more often than not !! To bad if you finish third although 3 rd placed club maybey should be given a slight advantage of sorts not sure what !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 4:31 PM
And if it wasn't we'd be very happy to be in the mix !!!!dont agree about money making exercise ( apart from winners prem bonuses )
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 4:33 PM
Unfortunately the play offs are here to stay they have worked their way into the football psyche and will continue to be popular until the novelty eventually wears off . A bright spark in the future will probably find a way to allow teams even further down the league to have another shot at contrived glory. Random penalty shoot outs could be introduced to allow even more also rans to climb the league ladder. Do away with the tiresome slog of the extra matches and go straight to penalties this will allow time to include almost everybody. Imagine the armchair brigade salivating over that little feast of drama and despair. I Appreciate the fact that I was lucky enough to have experienced the football era when the FACup actually meant something, coming fourth in the top flight was not a prelude to wild celebrations and teams were actually promoted on merit . Football success has become diluted, progress as always is totally over rated but I feel my views are very much in the minority and I will say no more in the subject.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 5:33 PM
If your that old Eddie you will rember when the leagues. We're decided with about a month to go !!! Boring end to season play offs are the most exciting. Seen the most exciting games so far this season !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 7:30 PM
I fully accept that the play offs can be very entertaining that's not my argument it's the principle that I am opposed to. Like I say my views are very much in the minority and the league structure is unlikely to return to its traditional format. The money men can continue rubbing their hands and consistent teams will continue to be shafted. At least I was lucky enough to witness a good 20 years of the professional game in its purist form.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 8:50 PM
Entertaining or not, the playoffs are all about extending the season and getting more money out of fans pockets. That's why they will never go away. Just hope they never impose the Australian play off system where, despite winning every game of the season the league winners can be beaten on the way to the "Grand Final." It, along with the AFL playoffs is the most convoluted way of finding a winner, I have been in Australia 20+ years and still don't fully understand them! Mind you I don't like either code much.
posted by Hints - Tuesday 17th May 2016, 11:07 PM