It all started when we sold Zamora!!
Well before that. When Hodgson left and Fayed showed his intent by given Hughes a £50 pound note being his transfer kitty during his press conference. Some thought it a joke but Fayed was serious.
posted by martinwatson (Guest) - Monday 10th March 2014, 4:29 PM
How wisely did Hughes spend somebody else's money at QPR? Would you loan this prick £50?
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 10th March 2014, 7:06 PM
Getting rid of Zamora Dempsey and Johnson when we did was good business. None of them have done anything since and wouldn't help us at this time. The only real loss was Dembele who we had no choice over because it was in his contract. We have done a lot of things wrong but that was not one of them.
posted by steve (Guest) - Monday 10th March 2014, 8:05 PM
Steve, I agree with you. I would add failing to replace Murphy as a big factor we should have bought Huddleston. The signing of journey men like Riise and Richardson was the final nail.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Monday 10th March 2014, 10:07 PM
Any owner with knowledge would have kept Murphy on board in some role. His active knowledge of the current game would have been far more useful than Wilkins or Curbishley.
posted by Steve (Guest) - Monday 10th March 2014, 10:37 PM
The biggest blow was losing Dembele. He wasn't appreciated on this board til he was gone, and still may not be. He's one of the most talented CMs in the Premier League and was just coming into his prime.
We've also had far too many bad signings. Ruiz, Riise, Bent, Taraabt, Senderos, Amorebieta, Rodallega. Beyond Reither (and maybe Karagounis), who has worked out? Richardson and Parker have been average, as has Stekelenberg.
And finally, Jol was never the right man. Roy built a hard-working, organized team that won. Jol built a free-flowing, finesse team that lost. Mid-table clubs win on defense, work rate and organization, not flair.
posted by Drago (Guest) - Tuesday 11th March 2014, 2:30 AM
Just to be clear - I completely agree that we sold Zamora at the right time (and Johnson and, possibly, Dempsey)...only that, to my mind, was the moment that we ceased to play with any real plan or direction. We had a great style of play with a strong man up-top to hold the ball up and bring others into play around him. We should have splashed out for a like-for-like replacement then - not Berba. But that's the problem, right? THIS CLUB HAS HAD NO REAL [SUSTAINABLE]INVESTMENT in the last 3 years!!!
Murphy leaving was a travesty...but again, the real crime was not replacing him! Ditto Dembele, ditto Dempsey...
Dembele was hugely appreciated (and I absolutely don't begrudge him leaving to further his career), but I think the combination of Murphy, Dembele, Dempsey and Zamora all at their peaks was what we really miss...not any single player...
Someone please tell me what other team in their right mind would sell/release all of those players (not to mention a number of other more peripheral players - Johnson, Etuhu, Gera, Greening, Pantsil, Baird etc...) and NOT REPLACE A SINGLE ONE OF THEM! And then expect to (i) continue to play well, and (ii) avoid relegation!
Answer...NONE - no-one is that bloody stupid...apart from us*.
*the Directors and owner (who are 1000% accountable for this mess!)
And now we seem to keep on making desperation managerial changes. I know the issues with Pulis (from his Gillingham days) are an obstacle, but surely he or Poyet would have been wise choices (the problem was Jol's sacking was left till too late and they'd be snapped up by clubs which will probably stay-up against the odds as a result)...Magath seems lost already - which even despite the squad at his disposal is a real achievement - who will be next? Symons, Collins, Murphy, Tigana...Coleman, SANCHEZ?
posted by Billy (Guest) - Tuesday 11th March 2014, 10:33 AM