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Cahill available on loan in January
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Take a number 14 and grab him now.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:51 PM
 
Talksport News, Claudio Ranieri wants Liverpool defender Joel Matip to be his first signing as Fulham boss. Don't know how true that one is?
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:56 PM
 
If it's true & he signs would be a big step for FFC, weather good or bad as a player........ ........At least we have a MANAGER..........
posted by Will (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 7:03 PM
 
 
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With the news that Slavisa Jokanovic has been sacked by the club and to be replaced by Claudio Ranieri, it seems a poignant time to look back on the reign of the Serbian. While the analysis over the next few days and weeks will be over what impact the experienced Italian can have on the team, it seems right to reflect on the memories of one of the best managers we’ve had at the club. This won’t be a look at how we’ll line-up against Southampton, or whether Ranieri can shore up our defence, but a look back on what Slav achieved during nearly three years in SW6.

Casting our minds back to Wembley has proven difficult enough since the start of the Premier League season but let’s go right back to the start. After a disastrous season that saw Fulham relegated from the Premier League and further disappointment during our first season back in the Championship – the start of the 2015/16 season didn’t fill us fans with optimism. But to find ourselves in 19th, 6 points from the drop, before the turn of the new year was even worse than many expected. The end of Kit Symons’ stint at the helm led to the search for a sixth manager in just over two years and the eventual appointment of Jokanovic.

With a poor squad, we overcame a worrying start with a fantastic away victory against QPR – racing into a 3 goal lead before halftime. The rest of the season involved strong flirtations with the relegation zone – which we only managed to resist with a run of three wins in April against MK Dons, Preston and Cardiff. A final day of the season home win against Bolton placed us 20th in the final standings. Evidently, it wasn’t all smooth sailing during these first few months, but without Slav, I genuinely believe we would have gone down to League One that season and we wouldn’t be having debates amongst the fan base of what our best Premier League centre-back partnership is.

It was obvious to all those involved in the club that a big overhaul in playing stuff was needed going into the 16/17 season. The sale of top scorer Ross McCormack sent nerves through a lot of Fulham fans but that summer we managed to secure deals for players such as Kevin McDonald, Stefan Johansen and Dennis Odoi, that would go on to form the foundation of our successful promotion. How much say Slav had in this process is speculated on by everyone, and known by practically no one. But as we’ve seen this season integrating so many new faces into the team is a difficult test of a manager’s ability.

The way in which Slav managed to coax out unbelievable levels of performance from players that most of us would never have thought could reach those heights is a huge testament to his ability as a coach. How many of us ever expected performances like we’ve seen in the last few years from Tim Ream, Dennis Odoi, Tom Cairney, Kevin McDonald and Stefan Johansen to name a few? The players obviously have some responsibility in all of this but improvements on the scale we’ve seen from these guys don’t stop with them. And then there’s Ryan Sessegnon. Everyone knows the how difficult it is for young academy players to break into the first team, but for a 16-year-old to do it in one of the most physically imposing leagues in the world borders on madness. The rise of “one of our own” has so much to do with the Serbian and without him, we can’t say what would have happened. There are plenty of young academy players that have the talent – but having a coach who can bring the best out of you and give you the confidence to play the way he does – that is rare.

After a strong start first few games at the start of the 16/17 season, the results trailed off in our typical autumn slump but the second half of the season in a 4-2-3-1 formation saw us play some of the best football in the division and crucially the results to go with it. Big victories such as the 5-0 at home and 4-1 away to Huddersfield, 3-1 away at Newcastle, 3-1 at the Cottage against Villa and 3-1 against Norwich raced us up the table to claim the final playoff spot. Playing the best football in the Championship became something we almost started to take for granted but there are few teams that can lay claim to doing just that. Ultimately, the failure over two legs against Reading was painful but there were enough signs to suggest we would come back stronger the following year.

Another poor start to a season during the 17/18 campaign, had a lot of fans openly questioning Slav’s methods and the seemingly random nature of his team selections. But the second half of last season is the longest period I can remember of being that excited to watch Fulham in every game. A record-breaking 23 games undefeated saw us rise from 17th to almost sneaking automatic promotion. In a world where few managers are ever given the time to turn things around, the owners stuck with Slav and were thoroughly rewarded. The longest unbeaten run in club history, our first playoff victory and a first Wembley win are all achievements that without Slav I don’t believe would have been possible.

The Play-Off final at Wembley will always remain a highlight of many of our lives, something that even seems too much to ask for in a dream. Doing it playing the style we did isn’t supposed to happen and ultimately that’s what Slav’s legacy will be at this club. He was majorly responsible for smashing all of the clichés about how you’re supposed to get promoted and play in the Championship. He was responsible for giving us the best days we’ve had since the run to the Europa League final and possibly the biggest occasion we will play a part in for years to come.

The optimism of that day feels like a while ago now. People will point to the £100 million spent and the 12 new players brought into the club and the failure to form them into a cohesive unit as a sign of the weaknesses of Slav’s method. But it is worth remembering he has built a team at this club before – just because he hasn’t been able to do it so far doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough for this level. We can all point to moments in the season where it could have turned out differently: like if we had held onto that two-goal lead against Brighton, or managed to take a chance during the Palace game, but the Chairman has made his decision.

The sign of a good coach is designing a system that gets the best out of the players that you have at your disposal and whether you can make your players improve and shatter the ceiling of what they and others’ though was possible. That these qualities have seemingly evaporated so far this season doesn’t make Slav a bad manager. All managers go through bad spells as we all do in our professional lives. But I don’t think we’ll ever see a style like that again from our team and it was almost idyllic. Without him, we’d be in League One and instead, he gave us one of the best days of our lives. Some might have wanted him to stay and some wanted him to go but I know we all feel a respect and deep admiration for him. I can only speak for myself but the only thing left to say is thank you for everything you’ve done and no one connected to Fulham will ever forget what you achieved.
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Well written eulogy. SJ won't be out of work for long and it would be great to welcome him back to the Cottage one day as the Fulham legend he's become.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:41 PM
 
Nice MST. Hope he gets to see it and know the high regard in which he is held down by the river.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:50 PM
 
Well written and well said. Only thing, no mention of the terrible transfer system the Slav had to work with.
posted by Terry 2 (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:52 PM
 
Superb coach. Watched the most entertaining, free flowing football I've ever seen & Fulham. Glad I have some recordings to get me through Ranieri's boring defensive Italian stuff. Concerned with SK's statement calling the squad "world class" & that Tony Khan will still be "overseeing player recruitment". Hoped Tony was going to be promoted to doing it for the Jaguars after the wonderful job he did for SJ.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:57 PM
 
Well said, well written MST. Few "real" FFC supporters could disagree.
posted by Simon (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:07 PM
 
Nice summing up MST. No doubt that Slavisa will get another job but, there is something in the back of my mind on recruitment? and his lack of control. Slavisa got Watford up and did not finish what he started. The slightly higher level with Fulham, promotion and a few months in? It will be a challenge for him and still something to prove. Just that little thing on his CV. Slavisa needs to grasp the bull between the horns and be the manager next time around. His CV probably reads better abroad than it is here at the moment...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:51 PM
 
A very thoughtful piece. Wembley will go down as the best day in my life (including getting married). The football was a joy to watch. Personally I'd have given him a little longer, he deserved that much. The wealth in this league makes hiring and firing too easy. SJ you were a credit to this club. I wish you the very best wherever football takes you (except West Ham!)
posted by macedo - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:54 PM
 
Nothing against Claudio but we want Joko back. Would have happily gone down with joko in charge, he wants to play entertaining successful football. He would got it right given control.
posted by Dellers (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 6:28 PM
 
Ollie, I watched Leicester win the league and it certainly was not boring. I thought Slav gave us a good time and played great football, in the championship. A superb coach would have a plan if his style was not working. Slav unfortunately did not have one and hence was sadly dismissed. Give Ranieri the chance to prove what he can do. Slav is gone, he did not get sacked by Ranieri. It’s not Ranieri’s fault that Slav got the push. Everyone deserves a chance so give him it.
posted by Terry 1 (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 6:38 PM
 
Dellers, who is the “we” that want Slav back? I for one do not want to go down. Ranieri played fantastic football and was successful. So that sort of cancels out your argument..
posted by Terry 1 (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 6:42 PM
 
How many times do we have to be reminded that it matters not the slightest what we want Those in charge decided rightly or wrongly that the club needed a new manager and have duly fired SJ and hired Ranieri . He is our manager so let's welcome him and trust that he can deliver. Just for the record reckon The team under Tigana would have walloped the present squad !
posted by Harry (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 7:29 PM
 
Terry, If we had the players that Ranieri had at LCFC I would agree. If SJ had those players he'd be manager still. Ranieri will play defensive football I think. I hope CR has more input into player recruitment than SJ, but given Shad Khan's statements I think CR will fall back on Italian defensive methods, & as effective as they can be, they are bloody boring ( I'm an ex expat in italy & went to many Lazio games ).
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 7:42 PM
 
 
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Blimey chaps, nothing like a sacking and an appointment to bring out the unanimity and shared comradeship on this site. Anybody would think we were leaving the EU. We’re all supporters and all hope for the best outcome of recent events, just like Teresa does. As someone posted below, let’s all take a breather, it is what is, let’s reserve the bile and name calling until we’ve at least kicked a football under the new regime. If it’s more c*ap, then is the time to moan, if its really good, some of you won’t have made t*ts of yourselves and we can all celebrate together.......in harmony.
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Well said. Just read the statement from Slav. The man has a lot of class and will always be loved at Fulham http://www.leaguemanagers.com/news/lma-latest/slavisa-jokanovic-statement/
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:10 PM
 
I think that it must have been taken down CoJ as you link diverts to:

https://uk.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=iry&hsimp=yhs-fullyhosted_003&type=wncy_mdaffmarmarie_16_19¶m1=1¶m2=f%3D4%26b%3DIE%26cc%3Dgb%26pa%3DWincy%26cd%3D2XzuyEtN2Y1L1QzuzzyEtA0AyE0BtD0AyCtAyByD0D0D0BzytN0D0Tzu0StCyDzytDtN1L2XzutAtFtBtCtFtCtFyCtN1L1Czu1StN1L1G1B1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2SyCzyyE0AtC0E0EzztGtC0DyEyCtGyCyDtC0BtGyEyCyBtAtGyEyDyC0FyB0Bzz0EtC0BtB0F2QtN1M1F1B2Z1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2SyCyBtAyBtB0AyCyEtGtCzz0AyCtGyEyCtB0FtGzz0BtDtBtG0A0DtBtC0AtAyBzy0AyCzzyE2QtN0A0LzutB%26cr%3D2061216557%26a%3Dwncy_mdaffmarmarie_16_19%26os_ver%3D10.0%26os%3DWindows%2B10%2BPro&p=Fulham+http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leaguemanagers.com%2Fnews%2Flma-latest%2Fslavisa-jokanovic-statement%2F

Where there is no statement just other links. Can you give us the gist please?
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:23 PM
 
For some reason I can't put paragraphs in unlike others. Could be me or could be my technology - anyway apologies for the lack of spaces! “My time as manager of Fulham Football Club came to an end yesterday. It is always disappointing when this happens, but I reflect on my spell at Fulham with immense pride and gratitude, looking back on great memories following my appointment at this fantastic football club almost three years ago now. "We have been on an exciting journey together. It all started when we avoided relegation to League One in my first season, before reaching the play-offs in my second year and then achieving promotion to the Premier League on an unforgettable day at Wembley back in May. I feel that we gave the club's fans a footballing identity and a team to be proud of. I was still confident that we would have been able to turn things around after our slow start to the season, just as we had done in previous years, but I respectfully accept the club's decision. "I would like to express my gratitude to Shahid Khan for giving me the opportunity to manage this great club and for his kindness. I extend my thanks to everyone at Fulham Football Club. It has also been a real pleasure to work with the players, and my staff and I wish to thank the squad for all of their effort and dedication. Finally, I am extremely grateful to the Fulham fans for their support since I arrived at the club and their very kind messages following my departure. "I want to wish everyone connected with Fulham Football Club all the very best for the future."
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:31 PM
 
Class!
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:42 PM
 
Thanks Chris. MST is the guru when it comes to beautiful spacing and paragraphs. If he sees this I’m sure he’ll get you up to speed. And yes he does have class. In many ways sorry to see him go.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:42 PM
 
https://uk.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=iry&hsimp=yhs-fullyhosted_003&type=wncy_mdaffmarmarie_16_19¶m1=1¶m2=f%3D4%26b%3DIE%26cc%3Dgb%26pa%3DWincy%26cd%3D2XzuyEtN2Y1L1QzuzzyEtA0AyE0BtD0AyCtAyByD0D0D0BzytN0D0Tzu0StCyDzytDtN1L2XzutAtFtBtCtFtCtFyCtN1L1Czu1StN1L1G1B1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2SyCzyyE0AtC0E0EzztGtC0DyEyCtGyCyDtC0BtGyEyCyBtAtGyEyDyC0FyB0Bzz0EtC0BtB0F2QtN1M1F1B2Z1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2SyCyBtAyBtB0AyCyEtGtCzz0AyCtGyEyCtB0FtGzz0BtDtBtG0A0DtBtC0AtAyBzy0AyCzzyE2QtN0A0LzutB%26cr%3D2061216557%26a%3Dwncy_mdaffmarmarie_16_19%26os_ver%3D10.0%26os%3DWindows%2B10%2BPro&p=Fulham+http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leaguemanagers.com%2Fnews%2Flma-latest%2Fslavisa-jokanovic-statement%2F
posted by tes (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:42 PM
 
You can't (and even I can't ;0)) use paragraphs on smartphones, tablets, etc.

You can only use paragraphs if you are working on a computer/laptop and even then it doesn't work for me when using Firefox just internet explorer.

Don't know why, sorry ;0)


posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:46 PM
 
Firefox! Will try explorer in future, cheer MST.
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:50 PM
 
Chris, you need an app like Microsoft's Word or similar word processor loaded and designated to the system as the default text editor. You should then get the formatting you're looking for.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:51 PM
 
Thanks all, will give it a go next time!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:55 PM
 
Class & balls give a copy to the players.
posted by Will (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 7:10 PM
 
 
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My birthday soon, following the footsteps of premier league chairman, can each of you, as associates of this website, put £1000 into a kitty for my present?! He’s already worth a fortune and been earning 3-4 million a year! This is not even a gravy train - Pure greed!
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Give me your bank details John and I’ll send it through
posted by The pope (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:35 PM
 
I have a mate in Nigeria who will happily contribute if you post your bank details on here John!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:41 PM
 
You can't really call it greed John when he didn't even know about it until it was broadcast on Talksport. Scudamore has raised billions for the Premier League and it is known as the best league in the World all over the world. In my view, he has done a fantastic job and has made a lot of people wealthy human beings. Fair play to him I say.

My company gave me a nice sum after 10 years service and also on my 5oth and 60th birthdays. I don't really see the problem to be honest.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY THOUGH ;0)


posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:43 PM
 
You could get a lot of pussies for a grand John.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:44 PM
 
PS

I believe the £5m will also be raised with a £250k contribution from each club and I'd say they are getting off lightly considering the amount he has made even Fulham through TV rights, etc. over the years.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:46 PM
 
If it is not in his contract why pay him? He has signed a contract and has been paid in accordance to that. I have a contract with my employers and I would not expect to get anything over and above it. I am not saying he is expecting the money or even wants it, but a contract is a contract!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:49 PM
 
CoJ, when you leave your job, will your colleagues have a whip round for you? This is really no more than that. It is not related to his contract as far as I am aware but a gratis payment for service rendered by the members of the Premier League. A whip round in other words.

On the contractual issue; it is not in my contract that I received lumps sums for the anniversaries mentioned above but I work for a very honourable business who care about their employees and I see nothing wrong in that.

Sorry to harp on but I am a great believer in treating people in the right way. That way they will do the best job they can for you whilst they are with you and other people will want to join you. My motto is train people well enough so they can leave and go to another company but treat them well enough so they don't wan to.....


posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:59 PM
 
Honorable and a nice thing to do, but not really in tune with the real world and the austerity measures that many have had to endure MST. On the salary he has been paid (rightly so as he has done a great job) I am sure he can survive not receiving the £5m. Give it to a worthy charity is my opinion. Brain Surgeons do great jobs but they don't get a bonus for each person that they save and I doubt each patient has a whip around when the surgeon retires.
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:05 PM
 
Whip rounds!!!!! what planet you on they died out in the 50s a friend has just done 35 years with nat company,thank you for your hard work and a cup of tea with fellow workers, whip rounds !!! that was really very funny.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:09 PM
 
I am not ready to retire yet but I am sure when I do there will be a whip round and a good sending off...but I don't the whip round will be mandatory on my colleagues or my clients, and million miles away from my salary times two!! The issue here is not the whip round or the sending off..but the insistence on clubs and the obscene amount! Good luck and Scudmore. Accept it wasn't his idea...but the idea do represent the culture probably exist in the ivory tower!
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:09 PM
 
BTW John, the money has gone from my friend in Nigeria. He died and they found £100m in his apartment. Apparently he has been trying to give it away for years, but nobody would respond to his e-mails!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:14 PM
 
Send me a stamped addressed envelope to Dicky Bird 22 Birdcage Walk Peckham TR1 LL Your 1K will arrive shortly.
posted by Will (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:42 PM
 
If Scudamore did such a great job why is English football in such a sorry state? From the national team through an unbalanced premier league to lack of pitches the whole focus is on money without any responsibility for the ethos of the game. The five million bung is just that; a bung of the first order. Going away present my ass ...
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:47 PM
 
Scudamore is PL not FA that's why ;0). Maybe if he WAS FA it would be in a better shape ;0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:50 PM
 
Tail wagging the dog mate. The PL dominates all aspects of English football without any accountability for the ethos of the game. The FA are useless, being both corrupt and incompetent and are of little significance, real or imaginary, in the overall scheme of things.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:02 PM
 
Think you'll find the PL and FA are not related and never the twain shall meet Ari.

If they did the game wouldn't be the way it is where all the spoils go to the Prem and the EFL, FA Cups, trophies, etc. and International football pick up the scraps from terrestrial TV deals.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:26 PM
 
Of course they're related. How can they not be given their respective roles? Without getting preachy Scudamore could and should have taken a holistic approach to English football, given that the FA are bothcorrupt and useless. He didn't and the game has suffered accordingly.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:46 PM
 
I think the FA are a corrupt sub division of UEFA, which is itself a corrupt sub division of FIFA, which is in turn a corrupt sub division of the very corrupt British parliament... I made the last bit up but it seems to fit !
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:06 PM
 
MST, As the prem relegates 3 clubs to the FL & accepts 3 clubs from the FL & the FL accepts 3 clubs from the prem, they must have a relative relationship, ergo they are related. Therefore every season the twain do meet. Sorry if I seem a little pedantic, but you were not entirely accurate. Acknowledgements to Jacob Rees- Mogg for his literary style.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:27 PM
 
John you would get a fair amount if you retired from this site you miserable old git.
posted by Trevor (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:49 PM
 
Ollie, I thought "relative relationships" were taboo. A case in point; one of my blokes rang in the other day to say he wasn't coming in because he was sick. I asked him how sick. He said well, I'm sleeping with my sister ...
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:58 PM
 
Well, the FA do like to shaft the smaller clubs. I also live near the Cornish county line & I've heard that excuse is quite normal down there. Told that by a cornishman before anyone gets upset.
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This scum khan has treated SJ like a piece of dirt, the sooner they are out of Fulham the better.
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You are more disrespectful he put his money where his mouth not at all disrespectful. Lucky to have an owner like him I quite like him and I expect he will spend again in january
posted by Tunde (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 11:45 AM
 
Well out of order Dan Dan. Would just like to say thank you to Mr Wenger for turning us down
posted by Harry (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:09 PM
 
I can't understand why you would have this opinion of the Khans Dan. Give us your insight in to why you think this is so.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:17 PM
 
The money he spent was the money we got for going up to the Premier League
posted by Dan Dan (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:17 PM
 
Opinion from either a wind up merchant or a non Fulham fan or possibly both, purely posted to evoke a certain type of reaction!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:22 PM
 
“We” got nothing as its not “our” money When you have paid £200million for a club, then an additional £100 milion in new players, then perhaps “you” can volunteer an opinion. Meantime it’s quite obvious you are a congenital idiot.
posted by Keetch54 - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:35 PM
 
If you don't like my opinion thats your problem, but don't tell me I am not a Fulham fan
posted by Dan Dan (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:38 PM
 
As for you keetch54 stealing a great mans name F---O--
posted by Dan Dan (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:41 PM
 
Our chairman is scum? a layer of dirt or froth on the surface of a liquid. "green scum found on stagnant pools" synonyms: film, layer, covering, froth, foam, suds, dross, dirt "it is important that the scum on the surface is not disturbed" informal a worthless or contemptible person or group of people. "you drug dealers are the scum of the earth" synonyms: despicable person/people, rabble, riff-raff, refuse, garbage, trash, vermin, good-for-nothing(s), undesirable(s), the lowest of the low, the dregs of society; trog(s); informaldirt, dirty dog(s), rat(s), louse(s), toad(s), worm(s), scumbag(s), crud(s), cur(s), no-good(s); informalpond scum, scuzzball(s), sleazeball(s); archaicdastard(s) "the glorious traditions of the Service meant nothing to scum like that" Not sure if you really are a Fulham fan?
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:55 PM
 
surely such post should be deleted!! this is well below the belt whatever is your opinion...
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 1:18 PM
 
Desperate Dan , desperate . Take your foul language to another teams meesage board , down the fulham road , you will be most welcome , I'm sure !
posted by Dandy (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 1:31 PM
 
Dan Dan a silly young man.. I almost did not respond to your uneducated rubbish however, I have. SJ was a manager I liked and still do. It is sad he has gone and did not want him to go. Question was it your monies you spent on the recovery of FFC. I do not think so. So please if you are going to enter a message on this messageboard think about it.
posted by Rob Clark (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 1:35 PM
 
Chris of jokes the (cut & paste king) Eveyone is allowed to voice an opinion!!! I would not call the Khan's scum, naive yes. As business men they are head & shoulders above me. Do they know more than me about football no IMHO. my best advice to TK, have an input yes the Khan's own FFC. But FFC is not a toy...... Leave the football stuff to football men...... Who ?? we could be here for ever on that point. Let the dust settle & see where we go from there...Good luck to SJ he will prove himself.
posted by Will (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 1:51 PM
 
Well John at the end of the day it is an opinion - not one I agree with but it is not profane, xenophobic nor racist and the language is no worse than many on this board....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:01 PM
 
Sadly i don't think its an opinion. I think its ignorance, rudeness, insulting and childish. Khan is a business man but he's done a lot for this club. Ask everyone who spent a day last season at wembley.
posted by The pope (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:05 PM
 
MST there are absolutely no justified reason to call anyone (unless they are a murderer or a rapist or equiv) a SC*M. such language takes us back to the worse of the 70's....
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:12 PM
 
Will, I was just highlighting what the word "Scum" means according to the OED. Yes, cut and paste, so what? If someone really thinks that about our owner and chairman, and they claim to be a Fulham fan, then fair enough, that's up to them I suppose. I think the majority would disagree though, By me cutting and pasting the actual meaning of that word puts a bit of context to a post that calls someone that in my opinion!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:19 PM
 
Chris I agree scum is not the word to sum up our owners & Dan is over the top............ This board should shut down for a few days.. Emotions are running too high............... 99% wish FFC success. for or against JS,SK,TK. Have a nice day.
posted by Will (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:56 PM
 
Too many people in the world just waiting to be offended. It's the times in which we live unfortunately...

posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:02 PM
 
Wonder how many managers have won promotion and then sacked for it inside three years? slav managed it twice is that a record? one he walked who knows why, the other he lost his way and now an Italian , the people who invented defenders!!! fingers crossed.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:16 PM
 
OH yes that nasty man khan ,not my thoughts, has told raniari to buy in jan and he has already sussed out a defender.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:19 PM
 
arch not looked it up but it could be another record for SJ...I hope CR don't do the Italian way of defence 4 red cards every game......... TK might play,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by Will (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:31 PM
 
Guessing it will be the Leicester way - counter attack. It worked for Hodgeson when he was with us :0).
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:49 PM
 
Tony will buy another player from the French league with 2 left feet & no commitment. How the French clubs will laugh at us again. It will be like Noel coming early for them.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:11 PM
 
It’s only people that use the word scum are scum.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:49 PM
 
Gaz you need to get a life
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Slav was head coach at Fulham right , but Ranieri has been brought in as manager. Is there any difference here do you think , or does it mean , as manager , he picks the players that he wants to bring in. ?
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Let's hope so. TK has demonstrably screwed up recruitment as is apparent to all and I suspect he doesn't want to repeat his mistakes with all the opprobrium that would bring. The blame for our performance is being heaped, unfairly, on Jokanovic but now he's gone there's only TK and McIntosh in the frame. As Terry pointed out, McIntosh is not in an enviable position with regard to his future.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:10 PM
 
Mac as Tony's new fall guy, do you think Arizona ?
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:16 PM
 
I do Ollie. He was respected for his financial acumen once upon a time but that was many years ago. If Slav's head had to roll it couldn't be the only one. The Khan's, like SJ, can be accused of naivete (a virtuous crime if there ever was one) but McIntosh cannot claim the same. Head coach dismissed, Grey let go, coaches walking, players not being played, dodgy dealings; all have McIntosh's fingerprints on them. To use a current American catch phrase, "drain the swamp", it needs it.
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It a sad fact that Statics show that a new manager as a very little impact The reason wenger turn down the job to hard for him he waiting for top European team to come calling The others mention were no better then Claudio
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Bah humbug!
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 10:29 AM
 
Lets face it Frank he can't do any worse as we are bottom of the league and the only way is UP coyw
posted by Dreamer (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 10:34 AM
 
I've only just started to understand some of what SJ was saying, all that learning for nothing.
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 11:00 AM
 
Absolute nonsense. This is from the BBC Sport page 2 days ago.. It includes the line "And interestingly, only one club that has sacked their manager in October or November during the past decade has gone on to finish lower than their position at the time of the dismissal - West Brom last season." https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46146946 enjoy.
posted by Hints - Thursday 15th November 2018, 11:11 AM
 
Well, we will also not finish lower than we are now!
posted by Rm (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 11:41 AM
 
Good post from Hints but topped by the amusing (and 100% accurate) post from RM.
posted by willi2B (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:28 PM
 
Rm, it would appear you don’t like/agree with anything. Is it really worth your time reading posts and for that matter responding.
posted by Realistic (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:52 PM
 
Rm, I take that back, misread your comments. You are of course correct and quite amusing, on this occasion.
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Another article on USM and there dodgy practices https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6390581/Football-agent-Salthouse-cashed-introducing-bookmaker-players.html ..mentions he has two chairmen in his camp ( I believe the clubs are FFC and Palace) I think Slav going was not only becuas f results but also because Kahns want to start distancing themselves from USM It would seem Mackintosh was also kept out of recruitment as he was unaware that Slav was being replacd as late as monday
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Why would you tell someone that you were going to fire them before you need to? I don't see the relevance...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 10:30 AM
 
Sorry bad explanation..Salv was close to USM as well as Macintosh..USM have MAcintosh and Parrish at CP in their fold/influence.. Kahns know some of this is dodgy so as they did when Rigg was here have now distanced themselves from anyone who could possibly be seen as involved in dodgy dealings with USM..Whatever people may think of Kline it would appear the majority of allegations are true So USM , who everyone in the industry knows are not very ethical and are under investigation by EFL/Prem Leage and HMRC, have had influence through manager and CEO connections which could cause FFC a lot of problems if investigated.Alleged charges are around player payments, inducements to youth players, transfers, youth players frozen out becasue not with agencies etc etc .. By freezing out those that were directly involved will help keep Kahn from investigations .. The piece that is now across all papers which is the link I attached just confirms the dodginess of USM
posted by rich (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 12:47 PM
 
Thanks Rich; I just read the piece but can still see no relevance in Slavisa being fired. If that was the case they would have fired him last season or earlier in this would they not?

It all seems to be a lot of newspaper conjecture to me with very little fact.

As previously indicated Slavisa was fired because Fulham accumulated 5 points in 12 games, had the worst goals against in all of the top five European leagues, picked a different starting 11 every game and made over 80 changes to the team since the start of the season. If he had been managing my team I would have fired him after much fewer games and if he was involved in skullduggery I would have fired him when I found out not when some hack broadcasted it.

Keep the info coming though as it is interesting to read.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 1:22 PM
 
Agreed a lot of conjecture and absolutely agree Slav (sadly) lost his job because of results.. The USM thing is something I know as I know the agency that was screwed by them on a certain transfer dealing with FFC. Thats well documented and did not involve Slav . From what I understand the agency and he were only been close since the beginning of the year but again the supposition is that if I owned a club and knew of or ate least was aware of any potential skullduggery I would be keen to distance myself from it..Sacking managers is part of the role and I dont believe that would have happened if results had been better..but with him now gone the focus will turn to those in the club who have or had the relationships..and again I would be keen to distance myself ..especially if the FA/USM links are as tight as they appear to have been. Anyway as of the moment all it is is subjective but thought the USM scandal was interesting/related..
posted by Rich (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 1:32 PM
 
It is interesting - keep it coming ;0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:03 PM
 
It is way more than "interesting" and could be hugely problematic for the club. Jacksonville shipyards, Wembley, USM scandal - join the dots.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:40 PM
 
Oh and by the way, can anyone come up with a valid reason or excuse as to why O'Reilly isn't even on the bench? Anybody?
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 15th November 2018, 3:54 PM
 
Every time his name is mentioned, the staff think someone is saying " oh really ?" & think nothing more of it.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:33 PM
 
Begorrah; that's it alright so it is, an all an all ...
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Been a Fulham fan since 1960 never been so sad to see a manager leave when a manager is sacked us fans only get a feeling of excitement for the one coming in but l liked Jokanovic and the football we played thank you. But l was worried it was not working this season a don’t blame the khans for making this sad move. I have always liked Ranieri and hopefully he ca do a good job for Fulham all us fans can do is get behind him and cheer the team we love COYW
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Managers come and go my friend,it's the way of the world of football. The only thing that we can all do is welcome Our new man and hope that he can get us back to winning ways !
posted by Harry (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 9:50 AM
 
I'm sure he got a huge bonus for winning the play off and a huge pay off when he left. He commands huge respect for the way we played in the Championship last season so will have no problem getting another job, although probably back in the Championship. I could see the likes of Villa, Forest etc being interested. Either way he'll always be welcome back at the Cottage
posted by Management Consultant (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 11:22 AM
 
Being in the Prem is mercenary. Slav should always be affectionately remembered especially by the 40,000 at Wembley. One
of the best days of my life never to be forgotten.
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Reading through the posts regarding the new manager it never seems to amaze me that some posters rush to be the first ones to post negative comments. They think this board is all about being controversial. Of course everyone on here has a right to have an opinion, comments like “can’t see this working” “Pearson done all the work” and many more. The thing is if we would have kept Slav and we got relegated these same people would be saying “should have got rid of him earlier”. Could have got Ranieri”. Let’s give the new Manager our full support and wish SJ all the best in the future.
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Hear hear!
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 8:20 AM
 
Well said. I think Ranieri will be a good fit at Fulham, only time will tell. Reckon the team needs everyone’s support, not negativity. We’re all in this together after all. COYWs.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 8:29 AM
 
Will be interesting to see who his back room staff will be, Mark Swartzer goalkeeping coach, Craig Shakespeare and Danny Murphy would do me. Any thoughts boys?
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 8:37 AM
 
Sorry, and girls.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 8:38 AM
 
At last,someone is actually talking sense! Sad to see SLAVISA JOKANOVIC leave. But something needed to be done before it was too late.… Onwards and Upwards, We live to Dream, COYW
posted by Banjowest7000 - Thursday 15th November 2018, 8:46 AM
 
Certainly not Craig Shakespeare! There's a common perception that he was working behind the scenes to get Ranieri sacked at Leicester.
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Benvenuto au prossimi Campioni 2019/10. At last a Manager with Premiership experience. One hope that Mr Kahn Junior will now listen to him and buy players that have premiership experience and can cpmplete at the highest level. This gentleman will walk otherwise and we cannot afford that to happen to our club. DO NOT expect miracles, but we can only improve. Sorry about SJ but we cannot live in this league on promise of better things to come. SIGN at least four good defenders in January and we may have a chance of playing in this league next season! Andreas Christensen at Chelsea may be available on loan!
 
 
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It now transpires that Jokanovic didn’t actually pick the new players he advised the hierarchy the areas he felt needed improving and the players were imposed on him .Well that answers the question why he changed formations so much ( apart for the injuries ! ) Ranieri will have to work miracles to make Anguissa , Fonsu- Mesah , Mawson , Le Marchant and Seri into Premiership players . I am unable to make a judgement on Bryan because he has been injured virtually since he signed apart from a cameo appearance at Millwall .
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I can't agree that all these new players are not EPL standard. SJ's system did not help them either. I like Mawson, not really given enough games to settle and the others, except Fonsu-Mensah could make the grade. I see Drago still harps on about Adoi and Ream. In my book, neither is good enough but were long term favourites of SJ. I reckon with Ranieri, we will see little of one or both from now on. Time will tell.
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Salary isn’t the same as talent and skill isn’t a substitute for heart. If he’s smart, Ranieri will learn from the Liverpool match. Sess playing in attack, Chambers in defensive midfield. If Macca is healthy, he should partner Chambers. Would love to see Odoi at left back with Ream and Mawson playing in the middle, Le Marchand isn’t a Prem player. If he doesnt learn from Slavs mistakes, we’ll keep losing till we hire Magath!
 
 
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Great to see so many posts to welcome Ranieri but I suggest unreasonable to expect us to begin our recovery v Mark Hughes. The international break will not help us. Although I expect a good game v Croatia I have no interest in the England set up or its progress.
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GO GO GO THE WHITES, LETS WIN SATURDAYS SOCCER GAME!!!
posted by USA WHITES (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 4:49 AM
 
The International break will give him time to speak to the players, and see them in training before the next match.
posted by Bert (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 7:28 AM
 
My point was that he will not have much time as our "best" players will be playing in internationals.
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Thank you for everything gaffer. You believed in me and gave me an opportunity. You changed the club around and made the fans smile agin and for that you'll always be remembered. All the best for the future! He's one of our own!
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Well said Sess, A young man with manners.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 7:59 PM
 
He's a great kid our Sess! Stay home son' New Dad Ranieri will make you into a great player...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:05 PM
 
Sess is a professional & a hell of a prospect along with a few others but his career/development doesn't hinge on one manager at the detriment of the club. Hopefully he stays because CR will be a good leader/developer & that goes for Mitro & a few others too, but no player is bigger than the club. If its tools down for them its ship out. TY SJ it's been a journey but it's time. COYW...
posted by Tuffen (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:13 PM
 
Ryan is a class act in every way. Proud of him.
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With so many away for international duty, is Ranieri gonna hold practices by conference call the next week and a half? Talk about about a tough spot he’s been put in. Will Mitro be professional or will he sulk now? Lots of questions to be asked and answered. Wish Joka a great career and will always support Fulham no matter who’s the manager or what league we’re in.
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That's an easy one. Ranieri will tell all our squad that every position is up for grabs, so go out and earn it. And while he's about it, kick Seri up the khazi.
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Ranieri a lucky manager Tubde (guest? John' i wouldn't give credit to Pearson whatsoever! Ranieri waltz into Leicester under an old age pensioner banner, and nobody gave him a cat in hells chance of winning anything. To win a prem title is a special thing, and i really feel that it is much more than luck. Ranieri should have won it also with Chelsea. Here are some interesting facts about Ranieri: Ranieri actually scouted and recommended Drogba, Robben,and Petr Chech. Chelsea signed these 3 giants after Ranieri was sacked. Mourinho was the lucky one, he benefited for Ranieri handing him the title on a plate. The special one not! Abramovich was appointed 1 year into Chelsea after Ken Bates, and he really didn't give Ranieri enough time to finish the job. Players like Melchiot was one of Ranieri's and he would struggle in this Fulham side. I won't bother harping on about the big ones like Lampard too easy. Gerami, Mutu, he was trouble. Glen Johnson, Wayne Bridge etc. These guys are the average signings that would struggle in this Fulham side. Trust me, guys like Pearson could not walk into a club and win anything with these players. Management is a lot more complicated than that. I guarantee you that players like Chambers, Marchand, Seri, etc, they will benefit and improve for Ranieri. I don't know what it is about Italian managers, but they have something different, Ranieri has charm, he is gentle, a good motivator, and he likes to tell little stories and fairy-tales. What happened to Leicester 2nd season after winning the title, was typical really. Nobody expected them to win it again, but they should have finished top 8. The Leicester players after all the euphoria were less motivated wich is understandable. They stopped listening to Ranieri's fairy-tales and they were not switched on 2nd time. Ryan Sessegnon will be the perfect son that Ranieri can mold into a great player. Tom Cairney will benefit also. Tom Cairney will be our Pirlo with Ranieri. This is an exciting time in our history folks' and judging from Khan's post, he expects and wants more than just to survive in this prem. Why is Khan getting bad press on here? Chelsea have been ruthless with managers, but they win titles. Khan has big ambitions for Fulham. Let's buckle up, and start a new chapter. We are in the premiership! Ranieri's contract is 1 year +. If i am wrong and talking rubbish? Khan will roll in the next manager no problem! Give Ranieri some respect! He won the Premiership and just as Brian Clough did with small clubs like Forrest and Derby, we can be successful too. Not saying we will win prem, because Man City and all the big boys, are just too rich and powerful. Our goal is to settle and do well in the prem, and then we build from there. Watch us take Southampton apart, then some will say' how come the new guys are so good? Managers like Ranieri can do and will do special things. COME ON FULHAM NOW!!!!!!!
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Crikey do we want to be like Chelsea now, buying our way up, rather than developing our own talent
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 6:32 PM
 
Good post Owen, it was obvious that the majority of us wanted a change of manager, well we have secured ( in my humble opinion) a very good one who I expect to steady the ship and hopefully be with us for many a season.
posted by Harry (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 6:34 PM
 
Great post Owen thanks to you I am catching up on my sleep!! It’s when I got to ‘trust me’ I just went out like a light zzzz cheers mate beats counting sheep!! Another one of those from you and I’ll be back to my usual, me and the missus will have an all nighter or was it her next door? …sesso tutta la notte…..
posted by Jark Circles FFC (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 6:46 PM
 
COYW........ well put Owen but what about the process owen? Well I'll tell ya about the process.. It starts now my friends. So get behind the boys and the fun starts now.... COYW......
posted by Mac (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 7:24 PM
 
Owen, there is a lot wrong with the club. It's not just down to Slav who I am sorry to see go but in the end he had to over some of the very strange decisions he made. Khan is getting bad press and deservedly so. SJ was sacked to try and save face of Tony Khan and his redicuolous transfer policy. If a coach comes to this club and agrees that the transfers are out of his control then that says volumes of the person. Ranieri needs support and I'm sure he'll get it from us as the majority knew it was the end for Slav but once again with Khans inept transfer policy it will be a very hard task! I'm fed up listening to the press say we spent £100M on players. We spent £100M ON POOR PLAYERS! (Except Mitro)They've had a chance. They haven't been asked to do something extra ordinary except play football! Hopefully I'm wrong and they have a bit more to their game. Look at Khans signings last season. Rui Fonte, Kamara, Cisse, Djalo, Mool, Soares, Jordan Graham, Ojo, Norwood, Christie. We had Ojo, Kamara and Norwood play bit parts the rest? (and Mitro was a Slav signing) Target was a good signing but we were after a left back for 2 seasons! Look at the signings this year. Seri (started well but now nothing), Angussia (the biggest waste of money ever), Mitro (Slav), Mawson (potential), Joe Bryan (late panic buy after Target deal failed and not proven at this level), La Marchand (terrible distribution but best we have at present which is why we are so poor), Schurrle (luxury player), Vietoo (slightly better Piazon that can't finish), Chamber (don't go there), Fosu-Mensah (not liked at Palace). Now look at our squad and tell me who is a true premiership player? Rico? Mitro, Sess and Cairney. That's it! We needed a new manager but we also need Tony Khan to this manager deal with the transfers and build their own team. 2.5 years of bad transfers before he got it right in the championship. As it is for most of the players, Slav and Khan. They are out of their depth in the premiership.
posted by Terry (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 7:33 PM
 
Danny Drinkwater incoming....?
posted by SJ (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 7:33 PM
 
Terry' you might be right about some of the newbies and some might not be good enough in general. Ranieri will give each one a clean slate. 9 times out of 10, a lot of players will play for their lives. I am intrigued about 1 player in particular? We will see what Ranieri does with Kamara. Ranieri speaks French and a few more languages, and maybe just maybe, he will get something out of Kamara. If not, he and a few more will be gone in January. Kamara has raw pace, but he doesn't know how to channel it properly. Look at Stirling for City? He couldn't shoot for peanuts, and now under Guardiola, he looks a million dollars. Well' 3 hundred thousand big ones. Let's see what the thinker/tinker/ man see's in these rejects. We could be looking out from the terraces in a few weeks at AK-47, AND THINK 'WOW'! Terry' you could be wearing the 'AK-47 Tee-shirt in your local soon. Watch this space!!!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:26 PM
 
Kamara will never be a premier league striker so long as I've a whole in my arse. :-) Kam prove me wrong.
posted by YabberDabber (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:37 PM
 
Funny Yabber but someone once said that about a certain Luis Boa Morte
posted by JBH (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:39 PM
 
I remember all to well & Saha JBH. I hope I'm proved wrong.
posted by Dabber (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:44 PM
 
Owen there seems to be another Terry posting on this site, the latest post/posts by Terry is not me, I haven’t posted for days until now. I’m of the opinion that SJ gave us some great times during his stay but there is nothing any of us fans can do if the owner decides to release him and bring in Claudio. It is ironic that the first player he signed for Chelsea was SJ. One of Ranieri’s comments when asked what sort of football he plays was I don’t want to play keep the ball all the time, I want my team to play football at the speed of light and my strikers to be like jet fighters. Enter AK.
posted by Terry (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:57 PM
 
And Ranieri is appointed as manager, not head coach, so he will now have a say in the transfer market. Plus his managerial experience at EPL level is galaxies away from Jok and FFC deserve him at this time. Nevertheless, I hope Jok finds another position, as he did turn our team around last season to get promoted, and he has my respect for that. I see Ranieri as being able to turn our season round like Hodgson did for Palace last season, providing we play as well or better than we did at Liverpool the rest of the season.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:43 AM
 
Under the management of Ranieri, Kamara will become a good squad player who will run through brick walls for FFC. Mark my words, his time will come.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 5:49 AM
 
I'm afraid Kamara is a cheat and a liability in a Fulham shirt. He will never be good enough for the Prem. Reminds me a bit of Geoff Horsefield with his blunderbuss approach but Geoff had a bit of nouse in him....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 8:17 AM
 
How can you sinle out Kamara as a cheat,and not worthy of a Fulham shirt.He did it once on tv and caused Johnathan Pearce to go aperplectic.Suddenly every one jumped on the waggon.Sterling,young and to a lesser degree Grealish (he is well prone to the triple salco when he is not getting his own way),would not be in your Fulham team then.There are many others who arent too shy about hitting the linoleum.
posted by v.r.bedley (Guest) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:08 PM
 
I go to games VRB and see him play most times he is picked. I think you'll find I'm not alone in this particular opinion ;0).
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 15th November 2018, 2:41 PM
 
I agree with you MST. If he had Didier Drogba's ability & intelligence to change, I would have forgiven him. but he does not have either in my opinion.
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posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:03 PM
 
Yep me too, glad to see Joka has gone, he got us up but was taking us down again
posted by JBH (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:15 PM
 
Chris, as much as I really liked SJ & his bravery in trying always to play football, if Ranieri does a good job & keeps us up, I will be happy & I think so will you. As much as we ( most of us, anyway ) thought of SJ , we're all FFC first & last mate, cheers.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:17 PM
 
For sure there were always going to changes after the run we've had. Once Khan had given Slav a massive vote of confidence 2 weeks ago it was end game of course. But this doesn't feel quite like saying goodbye to Jol Hughes Mcgath or KIt, who for different reasons weren't up to it, and it was a relief when they went. Slav had something those guys didn't. Those of us at Anfield on Sunday will have noticed a section of the fans chanting his name..I wont be the only one just a little sad to see the big man go!
posted by phild - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:30 PM
 
Delighted! Slavisa did us proud but he has no PL experience and has lost his way. Ranieri will be able to get our players to bond and play together as a team. The Kahn’s gave SJ a chance but it was never going to work. For the sake of Fulham staying in the PL they did the right thing.
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Drinkwater, Moses maybe?

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The one that leads usto the prpmised land
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:59 PM
 
Someone the Manager wants perhaps ?
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:00 PM
 
MST' it is a long time until January. I feel that some of our recent signings could well improve. I rate Ranieri very highly, and he is the type of manager who will get these players playing football. Ranieri will give everyone a clean slate firstly, and just sit back and watch the improvement!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 6:28 PM
 
Fredricks and Targett on loan deals for starters!
posted by Drago (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 7:35 PM
 
would rather he gave O'Riley a chance as he's better
posted by sw (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 7:37 PM
 
 
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As moderators go you dont strike me as a very good one, moderation is about giving parties a fair crack of the whip, you sir have a very one sided biased opinion on every post I read of yours. I sure won't bother coming back after your nonsense..Fulham fan through and through, watched us home and away in every division. I'll always support my team through thick and thin but Im convinced Tony Khan is our biggest problem.
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Hang in there Nigel. He's actually very good as a moderator and is entitled to his own opinions, which carry no more weight than anyone else's. Would be a shame to see you go.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:31 PM
 
And you're correct on the Khan problem. He wanted a train set and has ended up with a cowboy outfit ...
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:33 PM
 
Nigel, you clearly have no idea what a moderator is and can do on this site.

I am a bog standard poster no different to you sir who just happens to have a delete button for deleting profane, xenophobic and racist comments when they appear from time to time.

I am not going to play one upmanship with you regarding who is the longest and best supporter because that is just childish but I do have as much right as you to my opinion and as much right as you to express it on this board.

I'm sorry you feel that I have to agree with everything you and anyone else might write and if you feel that you have to leave the board for that reason that is up to you but it's a little trivial isn't it?


posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:44 PM
 
Stay Nige, every one with something like a delete button will use it to censor people's opinions from time to time ( look at google !). This country is full of them ! I personally like differing views with no taboo's. Apologies for the Xenophobic term "country"
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:59 PM
 
My last words to you, you insult me by calling my opinion nonsense then insult me again by calling me childish and trivial, fair play you're consistent. Bye.
posted by Nigel (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:59 PM
 
Maybey Nigel would like to have a go at moderating maybey he thinks if you have a button to eliminate posts that’s not liked that makes you a moderaterwhich seems logical to me !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:03 PM
 
Khan posts a bit harsh since he’s been here he’s got us back to promised land spent a few bob when he got us there unfortunatly some of his trusted laccies not up to job
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:11 PM
 
If by his lackeys Len you mean Khan junior and McIntosh, then I totally agree with you. SJ has been accused of naivete, not the worst crime in the world; there appear to be much more serious problems submerged in the murky waters, which Ranieri will have to deal with sooner or later lest his head, in turn, gets handed to him on a plate.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:22 PM
 
MST thanks we all appreciate a good laugh! YOU HAVE A DELETE BUTTON which you use but you say you are an ordinary poster!!! just love it, turning older on Sunday obviously hasn’t instilled some common sense or made you wiser!! To everyone on here having the ability to delete posts and not call yourself a ‘Moderator’ is playing one upmanship old boy! and it’s a well known fact on this forum from your posts that only your views matter??? Just stop pi**ing people off and losing good fans!!! On a final note let’s all look forward and be cheerful our season starts here, Christmas for all FFC fans got here early. Any analysts out there please, can we win the title from where we are???
posted by FFC Fan (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:48 PM
 
Poor Bubby, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
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It’s been said before, but this feels like the Meulensteen firing. Manager finally arrives at an approach and a team and gets sacked. Slavisa has had no Joe Bryan, no Cairney, an injured Ream, a suspended Odoi, no right back, injuries to Mawson and now Macca. And a team of mercenaries and flair players, like we had under Jol. He is the fall guy for a summer of horrendous signings by the scouting and analystics team. I agree it did take him too long to realize that a 4-2-3-1 with 2 defensive midfielders was the only way to play the big boys. He was wrong to break up the team’s solidarity by choosing pedigree over passion and cohesion. But now we are truly a team without an identity. I still think we have the wrong players - Vietto, Fabri, Le Marchand, even Schurrle — I’d trade them for a right and left back in a second.
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Excellent summary.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:29 PM
 
Good post, Ranieri certainly needs to be a luckier "manager" (not coach) than SJ. I've read a comment that Seri & Anguissa didn't become bad players overnight, no they've been shockingly bad, gutless & clueless for months ! In Anguissa's case every time he's worn a Fulham shirt. To be fair they aren't the only ones ( thankfully Fosu Mensah is only a loanee ). Let's hope claudio does pick new players & MANAGE the team !
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:48 PM
 
Spot on. Last season he had to sort through Klines signings then 2 great signings Mitro was definitely because of him and we sart a stellar run.
This year another load of Dross to sort through while suffering a load of injuries.
Think a good RB and LB with last years team would have seen us survive easily
posted by pat (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 6:28 PM
 
How many managers would decline an extention to their contract when offered. After gaining promotion, I believe Slavisa was trying to make it easier for a bigger club to come in for him. If he really believed in what was happening at the club, he would have signed. That is my opinion, others may not agree.
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One thing he will bring us is luck, one of the luckiest managers out there , jokanovic unfortunately had none this year
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Do you think Raneri will bring in new coaching staff to transfer his policies to the players on the pitch. Never very impressed by parker.
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:38 PM
 
 
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Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:14 PM



 
Owners, managers and players come and go. But until we are curling our toes and pushing up the daisy's, us fans will be with the club forever. So despite differing opinions on the old and new manager, let's all unite and get behind the team. We all have an opinion, but all of us share one wish and that is for Fulham to survive in the prem this season and then kick on next! COYW's!
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Spot on again Chris...I think I’m falling in love:))
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:52 PM
 
Stop it, I am blushing!
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Wednesday 14th November 2018, 3:18 PM



 
Personally I would like to have Nigel Pearson teaming up with Steve Walsh. Those two laid the groundwork at Leicester for Ranieri's success. Walsh includes Riyad Mahrez, Jamie Vardy and N'Golo Kanté amongst the players he scouted & took to Leicester. Ranieri was clever enough to build on this. So a good choice (rather than Sam, Pardew etc.) and I hope he can get the players on his side.
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I think we have to be fair to Ranieri. if a manager get crucified and the sack for turning a good team or even a bad team into bad one in 5-10 games, we should give the manager credit for turning a good team into an amazing team over 38 games!! so we can't give all credit to Nigel Pearson.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:01 PM
 
 
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It could have been Pardew or the fat Bolton crook
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Now that would have been a sick joke that even I would not have laughed at!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 3:26 PM
 
Or even worse Harry Redneck
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 8:41 PM
 
'arry's a good London boy Kunye. A little bit "whoosh" & a little bit "wheeyy" granted, but a good Londoner nevertheless. He's on "up the jungle" with Willy Holloughby & Dick anyway & not available. Too old now sadly.
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I wonder if the vultures will be out in Jan !!
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...only if he is allowed to go, which will be most unlikely until, at least, the end of the season
posted by Rm (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:44 PM
 
As his agent (and do try and keep up).
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Wednesday 14th November 2018, 1:51 PM



 
who cares about tactics - Claudio speaks English, French, Italian and Spanish!! at least we no longer have a communication issue!!
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Personally, I didn't have a communication issue, I understood every word Slavisa spoke. The communication is much more pronounced among team mates with several not speaking any English at all.

Pochetino didn't speak a word of English for a season and a half and Bielsa doesn't speak English yet but Spurs and Leeds seem to do all right.

You should get out more and stop being so xenophobic....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 3:09 PM
 
i am talking about the manager the and player. Slavisa doesn't speak French and Seri doesn't speak any English or any languages Slavisa speaks - you saying there's no communication issue between them? let's be clear - Potechino (assume you mean the spurs boss) didn't English to the press for 18 months and I assume he didn't wake up one morning and able to speak fluent English.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 3:15 PM
 
Apologies for the misunderstanding but you do write a lot about not being able to understand Slavisa.

With regard to Mauricio Pochettino, yes I mean the Spurs boss (who else would I mean?) but don't understand your point.


posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:00 PM
 
Pochettino probably spoke very good English very early on I. His Southampton career. He just decided not to speak to the press. I was extremely impressed with his English language when I first heard him.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:48 PM
 
 
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Once again the media win and Mr Khan gives in, I'd much rather he'd found his son another toy to play with and let football people run the club. We now have the absurd player power situation where they can down tools and get the manager/coach fired because their jobs are safe between transfer windows. I hate the bloody things, they've pushed transfer fees through the roof and taken the game backwards in my view.
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With all due respect Nige; what a load of nonsense. I'm pretty sure Khan did not become a billionaire by taking advise from the media and threat of his employees downing tools.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 1:47 PM
 
If I wanted advice about car parts S Khan would be the man to ask. Football thats another matter!!!! Self made & astute business can't argue.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 1:57 PM
 
So what did MAF know about the game before he took over? He seemed to bring us success. Do the owners of Man City have a background in owning football clubs? I don't think so! What a load of nonsense!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:04 PM
 
MAF didn't let his son pick the players.....
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:17 PM
 
Did MAF let his manager manage? i think so. FFC don't need T Khan, Get him an xbox then he can play all day with out hurting FFC.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:21 PM
 
Did MAF let his manager manage? i think so. FFC don't need T Khan, Get him an xbox then he can play all day with out hurting FFC.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:22 PM
 
And you all know that Slav had no say in any transfers for sure? Blimey, didn't realise there were so many people who are on the inside of our club posting on this board!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:23 PM
 
If SK took over FFC when MAF did we would be playing teams like Hayes & Yeading. MAF took FFC from the brink, lets hope we dont go full circle under SK & TK.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:33 PM
 
SJ has hinted his hands were tied & I belive him.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:38 PM
 
Yeah, I am gutted MAF took over when we were skint, had property vultures circling and had about as much chance of winning the boat race on a bike than playing in the Premier League and reaching a European Final. What a disaster that man was! Take me back to the good old days of 3,000 gates against Oldham on a Tuesday night please!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:43 PM
 
So you think we got promoted last year in spite of SK and TK? It was all down to Slav and nothing to do with the backing they gave him in Jan by signing Mitro and Targett?
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:46 PM
 
The majority of fans i have spoken to said it was time for (one dimensional ) SJ to go. As for player power sacking him, what nonsense his lack of ability got him the sack
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 2:55 PM
 
Welcome Claudio. Goodbye and thank you Slavisa for some great times and restoring our faith. Many on this board predicted we were heading for Div 1. Slavisa left because Khan wants to keep PL and anyone with £200m invested would have made that decision. He didn’t know our best team and couldn’t organise our defence. We were heading down. Now we have a proven manager who will turn us around if this group of players are good enough and want it enough. Worst that happens is we start again next season in the fun league. The only persons the PL matters to are owner, manager and players. We stay whatever.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 3:05 PM
 
I think we got relegated thanks to S&T Khans total panic & Inexperience. Look at the managers on there watch. I am sad to see JK go, & wish CR luck. he will need it.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 3:06 PM
 
We got relegated because MAF stopped investing and sold all our best players to try and balance the books before the sale...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 3:11 PM
 
Chris of jokes, how refreshing, someone who actually posts common sense. Well 90 odd percent of the time:)
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:50 PM
 
60 to 80 percent at best Mort!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:09 PM
 
Hang on MST, didn't Khan have a couple of months to "invest" in the team but didn't ? Didn't he oversee a relegation year from start to finish with 2 transfer windows ? Let's be honest eh, nobody's been perfect & blameless mate.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:10 PM
 
 
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...where is Owen ffs when you (er) need him????!!
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New game in town mate, it's the battle of the "tinkers". Tony v Claudio. Owen needs to think about it first. Expect his essay in due course. Bless him.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 1:34 PM
 
Essay? Novel lol
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According to Khan, we have a "world class squad" ( picked by Tony ). I've not been impressed with Tony's new picks so far (The dreadful Anguissa & Seri in particular ). If Ranieri can't knock these "world beaters" into shape, who will we blame then ? Hope he does, but we'll see.
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Ollie I agree no heart no gutts. Look at L Piazon last year loan player broken jaw & leg back in training in double quick time. how many in this squad would do the same.Errrrrrrrrrrrr?
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 1:40 PM
 
 
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CR will doubtless be given a free rein to bring in his staff and it's good-bye the to Grot Parker that didn't last long did it?
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Hope he has a good defensive coach coyw
posted by Dreamer (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:37 PM
 
CR doesn't have a backroom team. He inherited Pearson's at Leicester, then they stabbed him in the back....now he's back for revenge!
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:38 PM
 
Parker will likely stay. He knows Ranieri. Ranieri signed him when he was Chelsea manager, I think.
posted by Longtooth (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 3:25 PM
 
It appears Scot is staying and the rest are not glad really think he will be handy to have around under a different regime !!! ( by the way he will be ffc next manager !!!!!!!)
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It's clear, Tony and his team have no clue about football players. SACK THEM. Wasted over £100m on GUTTLESS prima donnas. You panicked when you first took over FFC & hear we go again Statistics stick them where the sun don't shine. You & your baby boy shafted most of the players who got us into the prem. Stick to car parts.
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Simply not true. Players are a bit like sheep; they need constant rounding up, and Jokanovic was not the right shepherd
posted by Rm (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:10 PM
 
So is T Khan the right man to add to the flock.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:16 PM
 
Agree with you Will. Last season Slav did spend some time trying out some of the players brought in in the summer but none really made a big difference. Then when he got the 2 we needed the season took off.
I think this year it was taking longer given the sheer number of signings he had to cope with.
posted by jack (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:26 PM
 
At the end of the day all I'm saying is let the manger, MANAGE. I have nothing agaist JS or CR. My only fear is we have a few tinkermen at FFC. Do we need another.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:42 PM
 
Agree with you Will, SJ has taken the fall for Khan's "Statty obsessed son ". Shame.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:50 PM
 
SJ was fired because he gained 5 points in 12 games and conceded a record number of goals in all top five leagues in Europe.

Need I remind you that we shipped four to Cardiff who hadn't won a game all season - the most humiliating defeat of all and then lost to a team that had not scored a goal all season and we went and did it for them.

Mawson, Chambers, Seri, Anguissa, et al did not suddenly become bad players overnight! They were all good players who Slavisa played either out of position or in the wrong formation.

Slavisa didn't pick the same team two games running and made close to 80 changes of player in the 12 games leading up to his dismissal.

What in the hell did the Khans have to do with any of that??

Only one person got Jokanovic fired and that was himself who could not decide on his best midfield and best defence. What other team has played three goalkeepers in 12 games this season; the only constant in our team and squad was Mitro his love child who, lets fact it, has hardly been "on fire" for the last six or seven games.

Get real Will!
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:05 PM
 
The Khans have nothing to do with all the changes by SJ. Can't argue that point. The results against Cardiff & H Town was abysmal. Players should be ashamed showing no fight in most of the games this season. If TK is responsible for signing new players then clearly he needs help!!!!!!!! Most of FFC new signings over the last couple of years where are they now?? I wish FFC & CR good luck. Funny most thought the game against LFC would be an embarrassment, but the players grew a PAIR Why they knew SJ was on the way out. shame on them!!!!!! What ever your / my or anyones opinion is we all hope for FFC to be success.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 4:52 PM
 
apart from the painfully obvious 5pt from 12 games,in what position did S.J play? If he had no input in the players purchased ,then how can you say its his fault.If you give a man a wooden axe and tell him to chop down a tree,its not his fault that it dont work.I have not yet met anyone who admits to making a cock up ,especialy bosses,they will look round to shift the blame on someone else.
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My initial thoughts upon reading and hearing this on the radio was that it was pretty much a like for like replacement and all it would do was upset the players who have been with us for some time and cure nothing.

Having thought about it however, I think the key word in the press release is "MANAGER". Ranieri has been appointed Manager on a long term contract and that for me means that possibly the Khan's have learned their lessons and will now leave the managing of the club to a man with experience and knowledge of the Premier League. Yes TK will still be in charge of recruitment and contracts but I believe that Ranieri will choose the players he wants rather than just the positions he needs to fill like Jokanovic.

Slavisa will always be a demi-God to us fans in much the same way that Tiggy and Woy are but it is the right time for him to step down and still hold kudos with the fans. I know we are all proud of his achievements on a tight budget.

I cannot see an immediate recovery coming because in my opinion our squad is just not good enough but Ranieri will certainly sure up the defence pretty quickly and I believe that we will stop shipping goals in the manner that we have (four against Cardiff being my low point).

Unfortunately, I am overseas on business for the Southampton game but will keep my ears close to the radio to follow the game. One thing I do not expect though, is miracles and my mind has not changed that a draw will be a good result and a start to our recovery (given that we have Chelsea and Man Utd away to follow).

You can't eat an elephant all at once so Ranieri will need time and money to turn this monster around but one things is definitely for sure - we are no worse off with Claudio than Slavisa so onwards and upwards.

COYSW!
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I hope Ranieri is not a crazy genius like Magath! Have they recycled the press release from a few years ago? Hope not! Congratulations to Our new manager anyway!
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 11:34 AM
 
Don't seem to recall Mcgath ever winning the Prem
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 1:05 PM
 
Hope you're right, but it is Tony's "train set" & I don't think he's finished playing with it quite yet. Let's hope Shahid buys him a new toy soon.
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When they decided to sack Meulanstein who was still trying to find his best team it was apparently after losing a match we were expected to win i.e. S.Wed in Cup despite improvement in an unlucky game against Liverpool. Then look what followed.
My only concern with Ranieri aka The Tinkerman is he got this name at Chelsea where he had a big squad to choose from and made many changes week after week.
He will probably be encouraged to use more of the Summer shower most of which along with the ref have cost Joka his job
 
 
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The new manager has a house in the area of Fulham I was born, Parsons Green, I realise its useless information but I thought I would mention it
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He'll be delighted when he discovers it's only one stop on the District Line to Putney Bridge.
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:54 AM
 
I obviously realised it’s only one stop to Putney Bridge, going the other way it’s one stop away from Stamford Bridge, a wise decision to purchase a house between the two clubs, maybe he’s a very good choice.
posted by JRD (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:58 PM
 
Let's hope he doesn't end up managing a team playing on the Eelbrook Common!
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Feel as sad or Joka getting sacked after a stellar season as I did when Ranieri got sacked after winning the league. Wonder what Mitro makes of seeing his compatriot and buddy being shafted
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I think Mitro is a professional and will work his socks off for us. No doubt he was a favourite of Joka but they were not Siamese twins.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:34 AM
 
How can you say Jokanavic was shafted?

He had had time to fine the best defence but was unable to.

Someone else needs to before its too late.

My opinion is Mawson and Ream or Le Marchant at centre back and Odoi at left back until Bryan is fit. Get Moses in January to replace Mensah

At least that looks better than what we have been enduring

Send Chambers back to Arsenal

Am sorry for Joka, he has had a lot of bad luck but time for a change
posted by Tumbleweedseven (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:40 AM
 
It's a funny old game. Jokanovic was Ranieri's first Chelsea signing, and he was sent off at Fulham.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:41 AM
 
Tumbleweedseven absolutely spot on, agree one hundred percent. Well said, onwards and upwards. Think Ranieri will be a very good fit. Experienced and a nice bloke to boot.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:47 AM
 
I Agree with all the Tumbleweedseven. Good luck Slav,COYW
posted by DG (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:51 AM
 
I with you as well
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Oh mate! Of course I’m not happy! I’d much rather we weren’t bottom of the table and that Jokanovic was in charge. For what its worth, I’m not convinced that Ranieri is the right man, as I dont believe that he’s tough enough. I would like to have seen Big Sam for the next 6 months, and then someone like Ranieri come in, to take us forward in the Fulham style. Anyway, we are where we are, and I just hope that we havent swapped one Tinkerer for another. Jokanovic had to go; the game at Liverpool was totally irrelevant; his fate was already sealed
posted by Rm (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:35 AM
 
Sam would have sucked the talent out of us in those six months
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:39 AM
 
Thank god its not Sam
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Well i hope the players are satisfied.In my opinion they should hang their heads in shame.Let us see now how we get on.I hope to god Ranieri can do the business,but fear these under perfoming prima donnas will carry on as they were .They have no excuses now,and we will see how hopeless they actualy are.Whilst i will back FFC as i have done all my 72 years,i fear the board have made another monumental cock up .I wish JS all the best in the world ,and hope he does not leave bitter,and resentfull against our supporters.
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It a performance related job you down you're out same in any job
posted by Neil (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:21 AM
 
If that is the case Neil why are some of our overpaid over hyped players holding on to their jobs.
posted by Neil (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:23 AM
 
Neil. It's because the FA only allows transfers in January and out of season. I reckon we could see a bit of movement in January but let's see what Ranieri can do in 2 months.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:32 AM
 
 
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Shouls have been big sam
 
 
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THX SLAV,GREAT MEMORIES--RANIERI IS A GREAT FIT
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Have to Agree that glorious day at Wembley after a great season think that was my favourite football day after the 66 World Cup !!! Hope someday our younger fans can expierence that unique experience whe we won the World Cup !!!fabulouse day from morning through till pubs closing !dont remember to much after
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 5:35 PM
 
 
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Proven premiership manager. Good choice. Time to get behind him and the team.
 
 
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Decision was made for the Khans i'm afraid. I'm sad to see Joko go. But best time to make the change given the international break. I'm glad they've gone for Ranieri and not the likes of Sam or Pardew. I think this will be a step forward.
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agreed, defence will be sorted, just hope we continue to embrace our attacking prowess and philosophy
posted by dellers (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 12:35 PM
 
 
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...Long live the king.
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Couldn't agree more. Joka did a great job for us, but football is a business these days whether you like it or not. He will have been very well compensated for his services and will always be remembered for what he did for Fulham. But now it is time to move on, we all need to unite behind the new manager and get behind the lads. COYW's!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 9:51 AM
 
 
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You can get 5,000/1 for us to win this years Premiership - dont hang about....
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Probably left it a bit late to win the Premiership this season. But confident history will repeat itself, and Ranieri can guide us to the title next season. Hmm, pigs, fly.....
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:40 AM
 
 
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Tony Khan will continue to oversee player recruitment with his staff!!! ,That says it all!
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What the hell do these khans know about football????????
posted by Dan Dan (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 9:51 AM
 
Signs a load of rubbish for 2.5 seasons and force the manager to work with it. Computer game recruitment! (and the best player we signed that won us promotion as all down to Slav! It will be interesting to see Mitro's reaction now the man he admires has been sacked!)
posted by Jake (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:09 AM
 
SJwould've had a say in the transfers-market who came in who went out
posted by Neil (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:24 AM
 
Keep blaming Tony Khan if you must but a manager who puts up with trying to win with another man's picks is just a trainer not a manager. I think Khan bought some good players preseason but so little time to get them playing together - what did we expect? The problem has been Joka's insistence on playing what he thinks is pure football and he couldn't pull it off. A great bloke no doubt leaving us with good memories of him but brought down by his own inflexibility. Never impressed with the managerial dross currently seeking new jobs, I think with Ranieri, we have as good a chance as any to recover. I'm 81 in January so coming up to my 75th year as a Fulham man. I'd hate to snuff it with Fulham back in the Championship, so COYW.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 10:29 AM
 
 
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Good champs manager Decent honest bloke Wish him all the best for the future But now it’s onwards and upwards Thanks Joel for all you did for our great club
 
 
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Are you mad FFC
 
 
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Got rid of one tinker man for another. It will not be long before we see if we had a poor squad or a poor coach! I bet all those SJ out crowd are delighted! The man that gave us the greatest day in our history!
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He won the title with leicester. then got the tin the next year. Big name job again . Time will tell
posted by geezer (Guest) - Wednesday 14th November 2018, 9:47 AM
 
he achieved the impossible with Leicester, respect to the man
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I knew this exact thing would happen, brilliant performance against a Liverpool side competing for the premier league title and get sacked, rather than after any other bad performances, hope that referee can sleep well at night basically hammering the nail in the coffin for joka’s job. That being said Ranieri would be a good fit at Fulham. There was no loyalty the last time we were in the premier league so I suspect the squad will look completely different every season we stay in the prem when we want to build a team that can compete at this level.
 

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