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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 11:15 PM

It’s all quite emotional out there with most people saying the same things but then disagreeing with others that have said the same things because they are not reading the comments correctly. One thing I can say is despite those in the Khan club and those arguing in defence of SJ or Raneri or neither is that it seems that most of us feel quite disappointed, dissilutioned and quite frankly fed up with the club at present. There appears nothing to be positive about and we’re all resigned to relegation and probably rightly so. Just interested if there is anyone out there that is feeling in any way positive about the way the club is at the moment?
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:17 PM

This club is now a complete joke and its all down to the khans . Sacking SJ getting CR in, and the little pr-t khan his transfers, we will be lucky to stay in the Championship.
I guess you are one of those predicting at the beginning of last season that we were going down to division one. We will go down, regroup and come back up again just like Watford and other yo-yo clubs. It’s what happens and has since the late 50’s. Khan has sunk loads of money into the club. They are redeveloping the Riverside. I think this anti feeling smacks of racism. SJ was sacked because he was utterly useless in the Premier League. One-dimensional. That’s why Watford sacked him immediately after they were promoted. Have you had a go at them for sacking SJ or do you realise that was the right decision and we were just slow off the mark
posted by Phil (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:27 PM
Well said. You get some right know it all idiots on here
posted by Mike (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:37 PM
Well said. while I am not sure about sacking SJ but that’s just my opinion. I still stand by Khan senior and do believe he wants to do the right thing for the club but have made some bad decision. I guess one of which is giving his som, with no football background, the control of football transfers. While I am critical of that - it does not mean I believe he’s a bad owner! The grass is not always greener the other side or we have plenty of state funds waiting to take over Fulham like Man City and PSG.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 11:10 PM
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PARKER SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Guest)

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Fulham striker Aboubakar Kamara Fulham striker Aboubakar Kamara More Aboubakar Kamara Stories His Wiki page Fulham striker Aboubakar Kamara was arrested on suspicion of actual bodily harm following a fight at the club's training ground. Police were called to Fulham's base in Motspur Park early Monday evening due to reports of an altercation involving the Frenchman. Sportsmail sources claim the clash also involved an on site member of staff. It is understood that having been banished from first team training by manager Claudio Ranieri for being a disruptive influence, Kamara arrived at the training ground on Monday intent on resolving his future with Fulham CEO Alistair Mackintosh. But his visit ended with him being arrested. A police spokesman said: 'Police were called to a training ground in New Malden, shortly after 17.00hrs on Monday, 21 January to reports of a fight. 'Officers attended. One man, in his 20s, was arrested on suspicion of ABH and criminal damage. 'He was taken into custody at a south London police station and subsequently released under investigation.' In a statement, Fulham said: 'The club is grateful for the swift attention and action by the Metropolitan Police immediately following our reporting of the incident on Monday. 'The subject who was arrested is banned indefinitely from Motspur Park and all club activities. 'We will refrain from further comment but will stress that we will fully cooperate with any new or continuing investigation or legal proceeding in the name of providing everyone a secure and safe working environment.' The incident is the latest controversy to have engulfed the 23 year old in recent weeks. Kamara was allegedly involved in another fight with team-mate Aleksandar Mitrovic earlier this month during a team yoga session. Manager Ranieri has frozen Kamara out of his plans, with the striker being linked with a move to Turkey. On Saturday, Kamara posted a cryptic message in French to Instagram, alongside a picture of a phoenix rising from the flames. Appearing to reference the club's treatment of him, his penalty row with Mitrovic and his alleged fight during a team yoga session, the striker wrote: 'Amazement the human being forgets very quickly. Just the time to go from one floor to another and everything is forgotten. 'Recognition speaks so low, and defamation is hailed. Ingratitude for some and racism for others are commonplace in this world. 'It is much easier to forget than to praise, to denigrate rather than to remember what the man has done well. 'Every man has the right to error, BigFine claimed for a penalty, failed fortunately without consequence. To believe that I did not want to score to win this game. 'To finish, boxing to boxer football to footballer and yoga for all. There has never been a fight in the meantime, hello. p.s This is how Fulham treat one of their own coming back from a no deal signing. Parker is a knob, and you can paint a pretty picture for Parker and make him the next manager of Fulham. He is useless as a coach and one of the reasons we are in the slumps right now. You can paint nice picture and put halo's around Parker all you like, and put Kamara in a cage like the beast he is portrayed to be. One penalty miss and a yoga argument, doesn't make someone deranged...
He’s a nut job. Even the prose are nutty. I can’t see how Parker is to blame for Kamara being a twat
posted by Phil (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:23 PM
Well you’re definitely one Parker that sucks....pr**k.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:29 PM
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 9:57 PM

Having seen some of this first hand I have to say nothing surpirises me anymore. Kamaras outburst is probably out of frustration..if you knew they way this club treats players you would understand why these things happen. It is run as an old boys club with a CEO in cahoots with agents a blind eye from the owners when things go well and a culture of bullying and corruption..No youth now..academy basically shot and players desperate to leave as no oathway. Kline will maybe too emotional is saying probably 95% truth and fact in what is going on..And a manager now who is imo destroying what has been buit over the last 30 months.. no kids allowed in canteen while first team are there..(how to destroy a club family feel) .. a complete lack of interest in using homegrown talent and after praising the squad when going for the job now slagging them off..Im afraid unless changes are made from the top down it will be like this for a lot longer
What rubbish. Let’s give ourselves anonymity as then it looks like we must know more than we do. Sort of an insider poser. Fulham is the football club, not a kids entertainment forum. Of course the first team eat in the canteen together and alone so they can focus on what they have to do. It’s like that most clubs. You don’t want starstruck youngsters seeking tips while your carb loading. Kamara is a nut job. You could see that when he took the penalty. That was the end of his career at Fulham and his chances of making it. He now realises the enormity of what he’s done. Rather than keeping his nose clean and getting on with it he started another fight at yoga, so that shows how lost he is. Now he’s been arrested. He did this all by himself. The reason he got arrested was not because of some deep-seated Problem within the management of the club but because he is a nut job. He is now an irrelevant that job. He is not out in custody but we have a much better replacement. Anyone could see that on Sunday. Ryan is the real deal. Kamara was at best a championship striker and most probably division one. I’m not sure what you think is been destroyed. We are going down and so we have to rebuild. Get real see it is and stop attending the club are somehow responsible for nut jobs. The reason we going down is that we wasted 100 million transfer budget, which was wasted by our previous manager who got rid of money balls and then absolutely refused to consider a Plan B. He did not recruit anyone to lead the defence or a ball winner in midfield. I defence can’t even mark. Even if you don’t like khan, he is not responsible for the appalling defending this season.
posted by Ohil (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:19 PM
Ohil' if you know anything about Football? You would know that Kamara came on as a sub in the Utd game, i think we lost 4-1. He took a penalty and dispatched it that day and it was quite decent. Naturally, a striker who wins a penalty sometimes think that he has the right to take the next one. Not the biggest crime of the century. Ranieri, you, Parker, and a few others sum up what is wrong at Fulham now. Not bothered what anyone thinks anymore. This club is going down in flames. As for Kamara being only a championship player? I like all your prem players we are left with not!!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:44 PM
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 9:33 PM

I well remember the horror of thinking of employing Sam Allardyce on this site, folowing our fooball experience with Mr Jokanovic. We now have Little Claudio, playing long balls into the channels, goal kicks to find Mitrovic, without getting midfield support near, unwilling to play Cairney presumably becaude he keeps the ball to long.This along with a defence easily exposed to the aeriel threat and a goalkeeper who stands on his line. Schurle achieved one shot and one pass in the whole game will not tackle, hopefully Babel will replace him. The park footballer AK is now history, no wonder SJ had no idea what he was supposed to do with him. Bryan unable to defend the back post, Ream tries his best, not enough pace and to short to dominate a centre forward, le Marchand similar to Ream, Christie unable to find a ball going forward often wrong side of attacker, Odoi gives his all has pace but so short to play in a middle three, sometimes poor decision making. With premier stendard players around them one or two of these would be ok, but as a group will get us relegated. Chambers has exeeded all expectations. My view of Seri is a super footballer, a player that can achieve so much and has been so poor. A midfield of him Cairney and Chambers would be able to control games to a greater extent. It is now 23rd Jan no defender has been signed unless Mawson returns quickly expect more goals against than we can score. Betts ability to catch a cross means he must play. Over to you Small Claudio
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:44 PM

Conced AK may not get in the team anymore but could be useful in the crowd on occasions
Club will sack him then sue him for transfer fee the club lost! There’s no excuse for violence! It doesn’t sound like just hand-bags either if he’s actually hurt someone! He’s a complete idiot and not realising he’s ruining his career! Why any clubs would want him!
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:59 PM
Could be worse he might stand up , swear or god forbid go round the back for a crafty drag
posted by Arthur (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 7:31 PM
It's a pity AK doesn't add more punch to the forward line.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 7:49 PM
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:06 PM

Apparently ABH on Scott Parker. According to my sourses
Is that a crime?
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:18 PM
Oh dear me, hope this is not true. Kamara was at the club before Ranieri arrived, if at this moment in time we had never signed Kamara I would wager that Ranieri would sign him because of his strength, pace and aggression. Ranieri is in my opinion the worst kind of manager we could have selected. He has confused the players and it seems to me that he will gamble with our future by constantly changing the team around until he gets it right. All the relegation specialists like big Sam, Moyes, Roy and others have things in common and that is a system and players who play in their correct positions.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:28 PM
Raneri is a joke. Well done all those that wanted Slav out and delighted with the appointment of the Italian! He completely lacks any man management skills and always comments on the players in interviews when certain things should be said in private. Not only has he now proved how badly he handled the whole Kamara escapade but he is always airring his views over other played especially Sess and Cairney! He is one of those people where everyone is to blame but himself. Roy had a similar incident when I think it was Aaron Hughes laid one on Bullard. That was dealt with professionally!
posted by Bob (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:41 PM
Didnt that Leicester supporter say that on here a couple of weeks ago .
posted by geezer (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:45 PM
What did the Leicester supporter say?
posted by Bob (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:48 PM
If I read you right, some infantile, mentally unstable moron decides to pick fights with his team mates, go against team policy and it’s somehow the managers fault? Kamara is a self obsessed moron, has displayed instability since day one and everything that has happened is a direct result of his lack of maturity and self control. As I, for one, have said since the penalty incident, get rid, he’s a liability and embarrassment to the club and to himself, although he’s too unbalanced and thick to realise the latter.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:56 PM
So now we are comparing Aaron Hughes with Kamara. What planet are you on? Who wouldn’t smack Bullard?
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:58 PM
Actually it was Chris Baird and he laid Bullard out.
posted by Keetch54 - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 7:37 PM
Bullard was always playing stupid tricks on people, he must have gone to far with Baird.
posted by BAZ (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 8:01 PM
Bairdinio if you please!
posted by Sue Widge (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 8:27 PM
Mortkake, I (we) probably all agree about Kamara but as you stated above let’s also replace the name Kamara with Raneri as well. (Raneri is a self obsessed moron, has displayed instability since day one and everything that has happened is a direct result of his lack of maturity and self control)
posted by Jake (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 9:57 PM
No I am not comparing Hughes or Baird to Kamara. I’m comparing a training ground incident and the way it was handled by a decent manager!
posted by Bob (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 9:59 PM
Ranieri decent??? Just look at the damage he has caused! I have read Kamara's page on this forum. It sounds like he came back into Fulham after talks broke down with that Turkish club as you do. iT Actually sounds like Parker didn't make him too welcome. After Ranieri is gone, Parker next manager? Fulham are already in tatters after all this and i would be more worried about what Kamara is saying about all this. His treatment from Parker and certain people in the club is not nice.We have to be careful now that other players don't pick up on the negatives and refuse to come here. Ranieri was bang out of order with what he said about Kamara from that penalty miss. We can make him out to be the biggest beast there is, but at the end of the day, the spat was over a penalty. Big crime scene, well done Ranieri' big mistake!!!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:30 PM
Well said Mortlake. There’s always fights football clubs. The difference here is that Kamara was banned from the training ground. He turned up. He wouldn’t leave. He assaulted a non-playing member of staff and caused criminal damage. If someone came to your house, hit your Mrs and put a brick through the window you wouldn’t blame anyone but the assailant and you would call the police. Here the only person to blame is Kamara. He was always useless and now is a criminal as well as being useless
posted by Phil (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:36 PM
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 4:02 PM

We had more team spirit last season than at any time this season. Don’t the players know that there is no i in team!,
But there is in ‘win’
posted by Bob (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 4:15 PM
Thing is DD they ripped the heart of last year's team over the summer window. I know we needed strengthening but not all at once
posted by Johnny's Jockey (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:17 PM
Emlyn Hughes and Phil Thompson played together for over 10 years without exchanging a civil word. They were professional on the pitch and off it by not engaging because they didn’t like each other.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:37 PM
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 3:29 PM

What is going on at this club? The move for Kamara breaks down, he returns to Motspur Park and gets arrested for fighting. With all these so called recruitment criteria rules at the club how was his attitude not picked up on? For over fifty years supporting Fulham I have heard and seen some absolutely ridiculous things happen on and off the pitch, but never have I seen such appalling behaviour from a player. Is he really that moronic that he can’t see how this is affecting his career? Ranieri banned him from first team training because he said the player was disruptive now we are stuck with him because his wage demands were excessive. We really need to look at the clubs recruitment policy. Absolute Joke.
From the Mail for those that haven’t read it! It is understood that having been banished from first team training by manager Claudio Ranieri for being a disruptive influence, Kamara arrived at the training ground on Monday intent on resolving his future with Fulham CEO Alistair Mackintosh. But his visit ended with him being arrested. A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said: 'Police were called to a training ground in New Malden, shortly after 17.00hrs on Monday, 21 January to reports of a fight. 'Officers attended. One man, in his 20s, was arrested on suspicion of ABH and criminal damage. 'He has been taken into custody in a south London police station. Enquiries continue.' In a statement, Fulham said: 'The Club is grateful for the swift attention and action by the Metropolitan Police immediately following our reporting of the incident on Monday. 'The subject who was arrested is banned indefinitely from Motspur Park and all club activities.
posted by Bob (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 3:58 PM
He's a loose cannon..
posted by Lively motor (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 4:02 PM
The club is a shambles from top to bottom including the chairman (who’s left it all to his son), the CEO, the management and the coaches. Absolute laughing stock!
posted by Jake (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 4:05 PM
Guess he won't be starting against Brighton then.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 4:15 PM
It takes 2 to make a fight and it would be interesting to hear what it was about. Ranieri and his Mafiosi bullcrap escalated this situation. Honestly, is this the worst kind of behaviour from any footballer ever? How did all this start? Kamara stepped up to take a penalty which he thought he was entitled to take. Ranieri makes a crisis out of the situation. He will kill Kamara' he just barely put his foot through the door. How many footballers in history have squabbled over a penalty take? Ranieri introduces more bullcrap in Yoga which is steeped in some pagan eastern religion. Not all players buy into that stuff. I have gone right off this guy, but at the same time, this is Fulham and i hope we can turn things around. Kamara is looking like the biggest criminal ever. Since he has been got rid, i haven't seen any better in ability from any other Fulham player. We have supposedly got rid of the problem, yet no real improvement on the pitch, pace wise. I have this feeling that more players behind the scenes are disgruntled with Ranieri, i could be wrong. And one last thing from me, Brexit can do one! The sooner we are out the better!!! French are arrogant just like the Italians...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 4:53 PM
Hope your right about Brexit mate. Perhaps Kamara could have a go at it !i
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posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:12 PM
Given the recent pattern of events this couldn't be "roid rage" by any chance? You could be right on the Rainieri angle though. May have completely alienated Kamara with the "kill him" remark and it escalated from there. Guess he trashed the place, but interresting to know who he hit.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:18 PM
French and Italians are arrogant? Not very long ago you wanted Kamara and Balotelli in the team. You are correct in some ways Kamara and Balotelli yes they are French and Italian respectively and yes they are both arrogant.
posted by Jerome (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:29 PM
Jerome' in the present toxic climate around Fulham, you are correct! Wanting to take a penalty is arrogant and Balotelli with more ability than most we have is arrogant. Just sums up where we are at, at Fulham now. My last word on this, i won't get drawn into arguments. Good luck Fulham!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:40 PM
Kamara always gave 110% and the penalty incident was about passion ! Pity Ranieri didn’t have the cerebral skills to handle the situation and get the best out of him . Now we have a situation at the training ground caused out of sheer frustration .
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:42 PM
Just cancel AK's contract for breach of discipline . Not sure how much he cost us , i think maybe £4m , but that is almost nothing considering what we paid for Seri and Zambo , and of course Fonte ( i think one goal in 14 French league matches and now not in squad ) - all players we will have a problem off-loading at the season end . Nothing wrong with passion but it has to be channelled in the right direction , currently it seems disruptive .
posted by davidk (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:57 PM
Teflon? I remember when kit was manager & he crop up!
posted by Lurker (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:04 PM
FFC fake news working overtime at the moment
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:04 PM
FFC Supporter fully agree, Ranieri has blown this out of all proportion starting with his comment after Kamara took the penalty. As for all the other comments on here we don’t know the facts, so why pass judgement on Kamara? Surely it’s down to the manager to sort things out and Ranieri has shown that he is incapable of managing on and off the field. On Tuesday I shall be looking out for Ranieri, hoping to see not one but two black eyes! What a mess this club is.
posted by FFC Fan (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:09 PM
Maybe your right but it’s on the bbc sport site and most newspaper sites. The latest bit being put into the hat is that he fought with Parker. I just don’t know, we will hear about it later on I suppose. My thoughts at the moment are get rid of Kamara for good, Replace Ranieri and get an experienced head of recruitment in.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:11 PM
The only thing you safely put a tenner on is that Ranieri won't be fired
posted by Other John (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:27 PM
Fake news it’s not!
posted by Bob (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:28 PM
Kamara showed himself to be a self obsessed, unbalanced moron long before the incident over the penalty, from that moment he has lost the plot completely. Whatever you think of Scott Parker as a footballer or coach, let me assure you his is a very balanced and likeable human being. If he had the problem with AK, I’d stake my life on the fault lying with the moron Kamara. Please note Parker hasn’t been charged with ABH, or anyone else, just Kamara. I cannot believe some of you cannot see the bleeding obvious, this has been on the cards, the guys borderline insane.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:40 PM
I have said this before but SP has been awful for FFC both as a player and now as a coach hope he resigns and we re appoint Peter Grant
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:41 PM
Ak has done what we all wanted. And your hanging him out to dry now. What do you lot want. YOU CARNT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS
posted by geezer (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:52 PM
Whatever Parker's failing as a coach might be , he gave his all for Fulham over the years . Frequently he left the pitch covered in sweat and blood , even if he had only played for 15 minutes . Give him the respect he deserves . As for AK , a headless chicken , type of player ( and we have a couple ) who you have to remind you change ends at half time . Just get rid of him . First touch is awful and second touch a foul , and that is without going into the blatant swallow diving . As for CR - sacked by Greece after home defeat to the mighty Faroe Islands , players complained they found him confusing and each day it was different system .
posted by davidk (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 6:57 PM
Aren’t you confusing being a decent footballer with being a decent human being? Parker is ten times the professional Kamara will ever be, on and off the pitch. Kamara shames you and your club and you defend him.....un.f***ing believable!!!
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 7:04 PM
Geezer, please, what exactly has Kamara done for this club, except bring us a heap of bad publicity? Please don’t say a handful of goals.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 7:09 PM
Can’t believe some fans on here Karmara mucks up and Parker ends up getting stick gets blamed when ever possible seems to know it’s his fault Gray left and how bad he is as a coach. Well Chambers rates him says how he’s helped him play holding role and Sessegnon says how much he helped him the youngsters look up to him great pro
posted by Badger (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 8:16 PM
Where did anyone say Parker was to blame? I haven’t read that! At a guess Kamara was probably causing a seen and Parker in his professional role as a coach probably went to see if he could help resolve the issue.
posted by Bob (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 9:53 PM
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 2:02 PM

The only transfer I see happening right now is swapping PL for Championship, 99% sure & I'm being overly generous. WHY the Khans have deep pockets & zero football knowledge, who ever is advising them SACK THEM NOW!!! along with baby Tony. The premier league is a billionaires play thing for the top few clubs & the rest are Wannabes. FFC are a decent Championship side at best.....rant over....
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 1:48 PM

The last three years we were building and improving each season with stability - all the hard work finally paid off in may at wembley. Then since that day its been pretty bleak. In July Stuart Gray left the coaching staff and Fredericks was not offered an improved contract at right back and left, Jose Sambade Carreira influenced the purchase and loan of two goalkeepers and then left the club, we didnt have a clue who our number 1 was. We panic purchased a load of players Slavisa arguably didn't want. looking at pre-season we can see why the team is in the position it is. The three years of stability were torn out just before playing in the top tier. We broke up a winning team, i can only hope if/when we get relegated slavisa wants to come back home and have another go because we've gone from being proud of our team to embarrassed to be a supporter.
Pez FFC have been building since 1879 & most years are pretty bleak, apart from the odd year when they overachieved.(sorry 13yrs in PL was great) 1975 & 2010 cup finals are high points. apart from promotion have FFC won any silverware in 140 years ?...................... As for Slavisa the best manager under THE KHANS REIGN. Slavisa got us promoted & should have stayed.
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So what do you all think will happen with our so-called new transfers? It’s not looking too god if you ask me! Do you think we will get anybody and if so who? I’ve seen nothing to indicate any movement. Drinkwater,Cahill & Moses all seem to be dead in the water. But I didn’t think we stood a chance with any of them to be fair. If and by the looks of things (it’s a big IF) we get someone in they’ll probably be a has been or unheard of player. Not sure anyone wants to come to our BROKEN club… We need to face up to the fact we are straight down again! Lots needs to be changed around the club from the top to the bottom. Didn’t think I would ever see us in this sort of mess again! Shows what I know about football,Money & Politics
We get what we deserve Banjo' and that adds up to not a lot. Fulham waited and divered too long and dropped more points. How does that look to any players with potential thinking about a move? Where we are in West London is a great location along the River Thames and i would have given that a plus. Sadly we are too picky and self-opinionated and not willing to forgive or even try with certain players who may have helped our cause. In my opinion, our whole root structure from top to bottom needs an overall, and our thinking needs to change. I won't even go there with anymore on my thoughts. Babel is in now and i like what i see of him. Whoever is available in our club, i hope the best for them and i hope they get a chance. I like Ranieri, but i am not his biggest fan now. Johansen looks like he is going and a few more will go. We are already in deep doo doo, and i worry if we pick up any injuries and who will cover etc. Just me down in the dumps, i hope we still pull off the imposible...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 12:15 PM
I wonder if we are considering loaning Frederick back from West ham? he's not getting any game time. I know he'd see this a backward step but he'd get premier league experience that he was hoping when he moved.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 1:40 PM
Start making notes for next season ,pick some players young, british maybe and get ready for another 40 odd games were the table will change weekly if not twice a week. Get pearson in ,we will have dosh to spend para payments and selling the most of the crap we got will raise a couple of bob. Look at whats in the under23s so if we made it first time we dont have to spend millions, I know it wont happen but any one got better idea.?
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 2:05 PM
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 11:09 AM

are ffc and khan getting desperate ,,, i wouldnt like to say but shahid was seen in the second hand land 2 air missile co,operative last week wiv hes wallet out
Not funny Eric.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 4:07 PM
Think moderators should remove this Not funny
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Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 1:19 AM

I appreciate that this might offend some possibly being too soon but have Cardiff just been dealt a double blow? They just shelled out 15m for a player who will tragically never wear their colours. Do they get a refund or do you think they would have insured him prior to take off?
He won't be insured. Life policy exclusions apply for high value passenger flight in General Aviation aircraft. Cardiff have lost a player and their fifteen million by using a dodgy charter. Single engine, single pilot, night, over water, icing down to 3000 ft, into deteriorating weather, no working transponder (or old class C unit). This is the aviation equivalent of Russian Roulette. Cardiff apparently arranged the dodgy charter (US registered aircraft). What on earth were they thinking?
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 1:41 AM
Fred money is not the issue here 2 people seem to have lost there lives in a tragic accident, the pilot and Emiliano Sala, is the pilots family less devastated than Emiliano's family ??? F**k 15m. Arizonan are you an aviation expert ??? or have you looked up these facts today ???.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 3:44 AM
Absolutely: I never thought I would ever feel sorry for Cardiff City FC, the Manager Mr Neil Warnock or their fans and probably today my thoughts are mostly with the family and friends of Emiliano Sala - they are the ones who have lost the most. There will be sadness to for his team mates in the Argentinian national squad. Who knows how he would have developed in the Premiership. Why we at Fulham FC did not follow up inital interest, but money here is not the issue the loss of anyone in such circumstances is terrible. The only question I have is why he travelled in such a small place over such a long distance when he was a milti million pound footballer?
posted by Rich of Cambridge (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:37 AM
Correction: I of course mean such a small plane
posted by Rich of Cambridge (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:39 AM
I don't know any of the answers but reading your post Fred made me wonder if he was a Cardiff player yet? Was he going to sign on the line when he got to Cardiff or had he already done so?
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 7:06 AM
Saddest thing for me is that there is hardly any mention of the pilot and his family who lost his life as well. Sala wasn't alone on that plane.

Ari from what I've read, a commercial single engine aircraft would not have been permitted to cross water as the minimum by international aviation law is twin engine so it must have been a private aircraft (perhaps).
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 8:49 AM
he had all ready signed for Cardiff Baz, Tragically he only flew back to Nantes to say goodbye to his team mates
posted by dean (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 9:03 AM
not that its relevant or even important to discuss now. Cardiff would have insurance in place to cover any accidents. There would be some exclusion clauses such as participating in dangerous sports etc. but an accident due to no fault of his like this would be covered.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 9:38 AM
For God sake man, they haven't found the poor lad yet, let alone buried him. Who gives a toss about his insurance status... why on earth is it relevant?
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 2:04 PM
Will, I've held a UK Air Operators Certificate issued and regulated (at great cost) by the CAA. An AOC is essential for a legal charter operation. This was a dodgy charter.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 2:58 PM
MST. No, you can operate single engine commercial legally, but this was an illegal charter, AKA a Dodgy Charter. Reputable charter companies hold an Air Operators Certificate issued by the CAA and are governed under the terms of the AOC, the same as major airlines. The way dodgy charters works is that you rent the aircraft on a Per-flight-hour basis, employ your own pilot and put your own fuel in it. Thus, it's not a charter and not subject to rules concerning AOCs. I feel about dodgy charters the way Dan feels about Uber and mainly for the same reasons. If it turns out that this was a friend doing a friend a favour, and no money changed hands, then it's a different matter but from everything written thus far that's not the case.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 3:22 PM
Cardiff point out that the player made his own arrangements would assume there was some insurance policy in operation. That presumably goes for all players !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:30 PM
Apparantly he was heading back for first day of training with his new team
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:33 PM
Doubt Cardiff would have allowed a player to fly over the channel in a single engine airplane after dark in adverse conditions
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:35 PM
When I say insurance for players that’s for playing injuries at the start of contract and presume that extends to loss of life and limb
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:39 PM
AZ hold my hands up, you know your stuff. Point I was trying to make, WHAT the f**k has £15mill got to do with anything, beggar, pilot, footballer. Anyones life means something to someone. And we should respect THAT....
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We have sufficient technology to Identify every single individuals in a crowd of 1000 people or more. We have technology to send a space craft to the edge of universe. We have technology to self drive cars. We even have technology to tell if a ball crossed the line by 100th of a Mm. but we don’t have technology to locate a plane below 1000meters!! Why? How many times we struggled to locate a plane after it disappeared! This surely is unacceptable. We need to use our satellites more to track planes so we can pin point it’s location if it’s ever disappeared. It cannot be that difficult and with the current technology, having to search 1000 square miles to find a plane is just outrages! I hope the aviation bodies and airlines get together to fix this problem ASAP!!
Sounds more like a letter to the sun
posted by Charlie Croker (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 10:55 PM
They will carry on the search for Sala tomorrow, John. They will give him every chance 100%...I think they may have found some wreckage according to 5 live, but no sign of any bodies. I hope and pray that they are hanging on somewhere safe...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 10:58 PM
Firstly, it was a single engine General Aviation aircraft which may or may not be equipped with an EPIRB. Mandatory in the States but not in the EU. Secondly, pilot owners would have to fork out for it; that's not cheap and simply isn't going to happen. Third point, commercial radar is "line of sight" with the geographic limitations over water that this implies. Most pilots familar with the route know Casquets as a Visual Reporting Point for the handover to UK ATC and he'd iniated a controlled descent from 5000 ft to 2300 ft prior to contacting UK ATC. 2300 ft is an odd altitude to request and holds a big clue. Whether he was IFR or visual isn't stated. GA aircraft do not carry pingers, CVR or FDR "black boxes" and EPIRBS are basically useless in water. The real-time monitoring capability exists via satellite but to uplink in streaming mode is too expensive even for major airlines and a one minute update cycle leaves a lot of territory beyond the last known point. Sad fact of life, especially for single engine over water ops at night.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 11:13 PM
Arizonan - sounds like you have technical insight. But I’d challenge the cost of streaming Near real time data from satalites. Even every minute would reduced the area to less than 5miles. But why every minute. You can now surf the net using satalites on most airlines now - so data is not really an issue. Yes, I’d agree we will probably never solve the problem for little private planes such as the one used. But unless we start somewhere it will never happen.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 7:35 AM
The Arizonan....thanks for info . It’s all so sad
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 9:36 AM
It was there turn
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:05 AM
John, I've worked in the industry the last thirty years and, in many ways, it retains dinosaur tendancies. To provide global streaming coverage you would need a constellation of Low Earth Orbit satellites (LEOs) plus ground infrastructure. There are several near real-time tracking websites that pick up data from ADSB returns but ADSB only communicates when strobed by a radar. In this instance it wouldn't have helped once he descended below the radar horizon. There's great cost involved in setting up and running a system like Inmarsat and the regulatory and certification costs are prohibitive, the latter applying to all aviation developments for obvious reasons.
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I like Babel and he looks a decent signing, but probably far too late to save our season. Maybe i am wrong and we are going to have one good go at the greatest escape? We would all love that and it would feel like the best thing ever if we pull it off. Cahill should have and he would have been here now but for our Hierarchy messing things up again. They may as well have broken another rule for Cahill because they did with Babel who is 32. Why not give Cahill a 12-month contract? Only 6 months was offered to him pathetic! Joe Bryan and Christie are not up to prem league standard and the football pundits tell us this, but we have them on board now so we can get them up to speed with the help of a few more experienced players like Babel. There is a centre back our Hierarchy are looking at by the name of Medhi Benatia a Juventus player well down the ranks. Time is of the essence if we are trying to save our season? Not sure our board think the same way? There aren't many forwards available out there unless we are going to drop down to championship or league 1 to look. I was surprised that we still have the likes of Kabano and Aite, and maybe we can make good use of them now with babel on board. If we can get Benatia on board quickly, that would be something and it would help the likes of Ream, Bryan, Christie and Marchand immensely. We have all criticised our back 4 to the max, but the stats are saying that we have stopped shipping goals at a rugby score rate now. It shouldn't take a genius to do the maths, and work out that we don't score a lot of goals either. Whatever opinions we have about Ranieri and his tactics? We still do create chances that we squander. I would like to see Sessegnon and Kabano on the pitch at the start of the Brighton game. Get Sess on the ball from the start and Kabano should have gotten all his ring-rust out of his system by now. It is up to Ranieri to persevere with him and i am not sure he has the patience with half our squad who i suspect he doesn't know yet. We can only speculate...
Kebano is a dreadful player. Regarding Benatia, he's the bloke who gave away the penalty at the Bernebeu when Juve were 3-0 up. I do like him as a player, but he's probably most comparable to Odoi, a risk taking centre back who likes to get forward on occasion. Is that what we need?
posted by Dan (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 12:19 PM
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The real reason for Fulhams fall. One word. Micheal. Nothing good has happened ever since they took away that statue. Am I right? Im right. Right?
Nothing, other than winning promotion with some of the best football ever seen at the cottage. He was a good man Jacko and if he'd stayed might have brought us some luck. Who knows.
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Done ok last season without him
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:42 PM
Very true,
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See that the Wolves manager got done eight grand for going on the pitch. Yet the four eyed knob from the pool got away with it. And it was the same knob in black . Stinks of the one rule system
Klopp is brilliant, a real fans manager. Why have a go at him? Obviously it’s Warnock who should have been fined. He walked over the Fulham pitch to and from the dugout
posted by Phil (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 8:48 PM
phil its the system like i have ready said
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 10:02 AM
geezer! You are a silly little yob, four eyed knob? grow up and stop pretending to be a pearly king. Do us all a favour and take some English lessons.
posted by doom (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:32 PM
Think geezer has a point one rule for one not another it’s the old top four decision !!!!!anyway don’t go for all this being one of the fans manager prefer a more studious type like Roy !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 5:47 PM
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Ashley Cole has joined Frank Lampard at Derby on a 6 month contract at £15,000 a week, what a bargain, I repeat what I said on an earlier board, Cole at 38 years old would be leaps and bounds ahead of the rubbish we have in Bryan. In my opinion we have missed a trick considering he still has a home in Surrey, will we ever learn.
It would appear not!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:22 PM
JRS' that is a no go transfer. Our board only offered Cahill a 6-month contract and at the tender age of 32 and a lot better than a Tortoise, it was a no-no. Cole at 37 is probably a dinosaur relic and not moving a lot these days. Mind you, i wouldn't bet against Cole to beat Joe Bryan and Christie up the touchline? He would still beat them hands down but gas and air assist...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:45 PM
Just maybe he fancied teaming up with his old mate with perhaps a position on the coaching side when he retires. Who knows, but there is nothing in the rule book forcing him to join FFC!
posted by Other John (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 7:10 PM
We should sign Cafu & R.Carlos. They should bring plenty of experience for the care in the community brigade to get back to winning.
posted by Winger (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 8:06 PM
Cole would be no use to us. He is too slow for prem league. We needed a CB and CM in August. No leadership on the pitch and no ability to get what we need off it. Cahill not signiing is poor. He is hanging on for every penny at the Blues.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 8:51 PM
I’ll say again. Watched him several times in person the last couple years. Great guy. Good team player. Had no effect on the game in a third or fourth rate footballing league, league one equivalent at best.
posted by Californian - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 2:18 AM
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Just read that it could take as long,as two years to build and redevelop the Riverside. Just in time when we get promoted again,But if we hurry up and sign quality defenders we might stay up.
Which was the last football stand/stadium built withing the estimated time and Budget Schedule? Tottenham,,wembley ….Best one I remember is one of the CFC stands in the 70s.I think i went through my Oratory life watching it being built.
posted by T.NO (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 3:47 PM
The stand will be built, we won't stay up
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 4:25 PM
As I understand it, the ink is not yet on the paper regarding the construction contract. Current estimate is 140M, and I'm wondering whether relegation might cause a bit of a rethink.
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Could it not be viable to get the likes of Hugh Grant,Nigel Havers, a supporters trust,an overseas pension fund etc wound up into buying FFC. At least we would know that however bad it was the owners would actually care.The Khan family may be Kings of the Bumper but history will never equate them to MAF. MAF had Charisma and knew about football and us well before getting involved and made FFC known to the world.The khans want to play NFL at the cottage.Guess its like mowing a wicket at the Hollywood bowl.
Are you having a laugh? They paid a lot of money got us in the premier league! Some people never satisfied. Go and support Chelsea!
posted by Mike (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 5:03 PM
Nice idea, but that would be what is known as "a consortium of local business men and interested parties" and is the last desperate hat you want to hear landing in the ring when your club is up for sale. Unfortunately a couple of actors and a supporters trust just won't do it..and as for a pension fund investing in a football club..just make sure it isn't the company your retirement is based on!
posted by phild - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:11 PM
Nigel Havers to buy Fulham business from the Khans??? Didn't he rip off Audrey from Coronation Street??? HHMMMMM.........
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:24 PM
And they paid a lot more money and got us sent right back to the championship. We got promoted despite them, not due to them. SJ deserves all the credit for promotion. Shame the Prem was too much for him to handle.
posted by Californian - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 2:04 AM
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The news report says that Cardiff City's new signing, has perished in a plane crash. Doesn't it just put our worries about relegation into prospective. I know that they are among our main rivals, but I would like to offer my condolences to all at Cardiff City and their fans.
It's my old saying AC that football is the perfect mirror of life with all the ups and downs but this in on an alltogether differnt scale.Against this news football is NOTHING.
posted by brian longhurst. (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 2:23 PM
So sad, that player would have been looking forward to his new experience. It is bad enough that it happened but the timing...
posted by BAZ (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 2:50 PM
May I also join you in a message of condolence. Football is a sport. but life is life and too be treasured while it lasts. I'm so sorry that this young man had a short one.
posted by John T (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 4:08 PM
Very sad!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 7:23 PM
The pilot also had friends and family. Sad for both of them. RIP
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 8:37 PM
Tragic. Eerily similar to JFK Jr. a few years back. Thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families. Also to the Cardiff family, club and supporters.
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That's needed tonight. Every player should drop exhausted at the end of the match to prove they gave their all, and I hope Ranieri made it quite clear to Seri amongst others that their contributions are just not good enough. I doubt the message will not get though and therefore forecast a 1-1 result.
What game are you planning to watch tonight?
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posted by Bean (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 1:31 PM
I think all the players gave 100% on Sunday. Including Seri.
posted by Midds (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 2:39 PM
ST If you’re that far ahead, with Brexit looming could you please give us all the winning numbers for the Lotto and Euro Millions for this week. But why stop at next Tuesday? Is the flux capacitor in your DL not giving you the 1.21 GW power you need? If you do get further ahead let us know if FFC get relegated? And what Italian club that plonker Ranieri is working at?? Want to send him a nice post card with a ‘special wish’ c/o all the young starlets no longer at the club and of course from all us fans!
posted by Deano (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 2:53 PM
The main difference between them and us is every one new where they had to be,totally well drilled like we were last season. We need a little from last season play and somthing special this season,the latter we dont have yet.
posted by Steve earle9 (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 4:36 PM
I think you're right Midds, just that some simply aren't good enough but at least all tried. Seri had a good game I thought.
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Until the start of the Riverside Stand work. Anyone as excited as I am. Forget the football for a bit, that's a gonner. Let's enjoy the new stand! Yay I'm a fat head.
80 million for 4000 seats and stand closed for 2 years!! waste of time and money, we will only have a fan base of max 15000 by then.
posted by doom (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 12:31 PM
Dont forget the yanks will playing there as well
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Where Will the Tv camaras go ?
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Man Utd
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Think the yanks will continue to play at Wembley Geezer not li'l ol' Craven Cottage ;0)
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Playing what !!! ??
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:23 PM
American Football Len.
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In my view , spending money on short term transfers now a lost cause . Invest in those who can commit to 3 years and who are capable of getting us promoted next year . See what we have on our books at the moment and give them game time and experience . So for example , Betts over Rico who will be gone at season end . ( Actually think Rico is good shot stopper but has a Dracula dislike of crosses ) . And before we waste any more money in the transfer market drooling the lower leagues of Europe , let Lovell ( Data Analyst ) and Talbot ( Chief Scout ) plus of course TK select the players , but before decision made get a fan from the Hammy End / JH stand or maybe even Riverside to run a check over the player to see if he can head a ball , shoot straight , trap a ball , is not colour blind to a white or black shirt , has the energy to last at least 75 minutes in a high tempo game , wants a challenge not just a pleasant life style . Simple things that seem more obvious to most of us less qualified .
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I only wish I could pull up all the posts from way back during last summer when I guess 99% of people were loud in singing the praises of Tony Kahn for the huge investment (100m) he made on the signings - and yet now he is constantly slagged off and pilloried. Look to the the players and the coaching team for the situation we are in, but ffs at least Kahn put his hand in his pocket to try and create a team that would do flourish in the Prem. It has patently failed but don't blame him. I shall now await a public stoning....
The only one signing that was desperate was Anguissa, that £30m could and should have been spent on a proper central defender. Other signings on paper all looked pretty good, pretty hopeless on the pitch but you cant knock the fact he did spend £100m
posted by Adam (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 11:17 AM
Hindsight is a wonderful thing to be fair I would not have known to much about some of our signings but you could not fault the club spending unfortunately the people in charge of spending such vast sums totally incompetent should be removed from there positions sharpish presume khan senior being a business man will in due coarse have a word in someone’s ear !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:32 PM
You are sh1tting me MW. Splashing the cash on players who didn't understand the Jokanovic system, who couldn't adjust to that and now can't adopt Rainieris Kick & Rush philosophy, who can't compete in the Premier League, with a manager and coaches with little to no ideas other than a failed fetish for clean sheets, a transfer policy that's incomprehensible and being a tin-eared arrogant bast@rd to boot. All down to the man at the top, the one and only Tony "Go To Hell" Khan. By the way, I note his infamous post on twitter has been deleted. Daddy must have had a word.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 8:32 PM
It’s heart-breaking to witness 3 years of progress undone so quickly and so preventably. That’s what all of us are feeling. Seeing Slav take Kits wreckage and slowly build — seeing Malone, Aluko, McCormack evolve into Sess, Cairney, Mitro - a side that went 23 games unbeaten! And then to abandon all of it, the players, the system, the manager. To never give that side a chance. Our team was built to play one way — positive, possession football. To try to change and become Stoke was a disaster of our own choosing. If you take last year’s Wembley XI, with Freddo and Targett, I just don’t see us in the bottom three. I don’t think anyone does. It’s been self-inflicted wounds all year — Mitros handball, Sess’s shirt grab, countless 1-v-1s wastes, missed kicks, giveaways. All so preventable. From the players to the owners — preventable. In alternate universe, TK spent half the money, but spent it right, and we’re a solid mid-table side like Wolves. I’ve watched every match this season, but it’s too frustrating and far too sad.
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Stick yourselves in the boots of Johanson, Mcdonald, Ayite, Kebano, Cairney, Bettinelli and co.. All played a massive part in our promotion, all key figures, all more or less discarded now by our new manager all watching players like Christie, Bryan, Odoi, Ream, Seri, Anguissa who are at best championship players. Come the summer if we are relegated they will all be 1st teamers again but in the back of the mind there must always be resentment of not getting a chance of being a Prem lge player and knowing should they earn promotion again they will be replaced once again.. How do you motivate players in that scenario?? I wonder how our season would have gone with Mcdonald, Cairney and Johanson as the 3 cmids just like last season?? Couldnt have gone any worse?
They will all probably be gone in this window in any case:0((
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 12:37 PM
Turkeys voting for Xmas teams going to prem need to strengthen there will be casualties as been stated our staff recruiters totally inept !!!in hindsight could have kept last years squad give or take and let our previous manager choose his players. Playing devils advocate were the same people responsible for last seasons players
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:39 PM
Adam I'm not sure about your football IQ, especially as you're implying that Odoi is a new, poor signing. Think he played a bit of a part in last year's squad....something about a late header vs Derby to send us to Wembley. But hey, why let facts get in the way of an incoherent rant right?
posted by JJVOL07 (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 7:12 PM
Adam, you nailed it, I’ve been thinking the same. Heartbrokenn and devastated and livid spring to mind. Those guys endured so much and gave so much for the club, and never got a chance to show their stuff. Brutal situation, to see the likes of Anguissa and Cisse taking the club to relegation while you watch helpless.
posted by Drago (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd January 2019, 3:24 AM
JJVOL.... My IQ... You cant read my old son... Where did i say Odoi Ream and co were new signings, i merely stated they were championship players at best and i dont think you need a very high IQ to work that one out. Regarding Odoi, will never forget that goal vs Derby but he is dining out on that now, dont forget his rashness almost cost us the play off final, he has made countless mistakes all season but gets picked every week because he has a fantastic attitude and is Mr 100%, in the Prem Lge you need a little bit more than that.
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Mathematically we can still finish above Man City! Let’s hope for a miracle!
John.are Manchester City not playing any more games then, Champions League here we come coyw
posted by Dreamer (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 11:30 AM
We can still make the play offs, oh sorry, that’s this time next seaon.
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I’m of to ladbrokes !!!
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Last week I mentioned Ashley Cole was available, I was shot down in flames, I was told he was too slow, past his sell by date, my answer was that Ashley Cole at half pace would outpace, out think and out play the current occupant of the left back position, namely Bryan, Bryan is a total liability, completely out of his depth, the lads an embarrassment, if we haven’t got anyone any better, we are really in the manure. With Babel, Sess and Cole together it would have added much needed pace to our left hand side, too late now, Cole signed for Derby today, obviously good enough to help them try and gain promotion but not good enough to help us avoid relegation,
If lampard had the choice of Bryan and Cole, I’d wonder who he would take? I suspect Bryan every day!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:24 AM
Bryan would be better in the Championship like Christie totally out of their depth in the Premiership as Paul Merson said on Sky there is a world of difference between a Chapionship player and a Premiership player and it was all there to see against TH . If we had signed Moses and Cahill before the Burnley match we probably would be at least 4 points better off and maybe even 6 i think the hierarchy at FFC have thrown the towel in .
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:52 AM
JRD' Ashley Cole will not play half the games at Derby honestly. He hasn't got that marauding dash off pace that saw him cover a football pitch from end to end anymore. Lampard wants him for more of a coaching role. If we didn't want the younger man in Cahill at age 32? There was no chance that this board would have signed Cole. Funnily enough, we are going in for a centre-back by the name of Medhi Benatia' who at the tender age of '31'??? (honestly.i am not making this up) He isn't getting any game-time at Juventus and apparently he is competing with 3 players in his position. I like the comedy way our board move the goalpost from not signing anyone over the age of 28 and hmmm age 32 but only for 6 months, and put it back a bit to age 31 for Benatia??? I think the Italian Mafiosi say' 'I'm Gonna make him an offer he can't refuse' Games are running out folks, get in whoever we are gonna get real quick!!!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 7:27 AM
Funny old game isnt it, Derby have Scott Malone who was brilliant for us but has hardly kicked a ball for 2 seasons now yet they sign a 38 year old to replace him. I would take Malone back in a heartbeat for the LWB position! Wonder if Malone and Fredericks both wonder what if i had stayed. Jees i really miss Fredericks...
posted by Adam (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 10:33 AM
There's a scene in Sunderland Till I Die (Netflix) where Joy Bryan, playing for Bristol City, gets totally skinned in the penalty area by a Sunderland strike, who then scores. That was less than a year ago. Difficult to conclude from that scene that young Joe was a Premiership player in the waiting.
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 10:38 AM
Adam' i had the same old arguments on here countless number of times about Malone, Piazon, Aluko, Fredericks etc. The question is, are they good enough for the prem? We will never know that. Will Hazzard make a move from Chelsea to Real Madrid a successful one? Couthino is struggling and he is regarded very highly. Sometimes for unknown reasons, players moving across clubs don't work out and they look bad, such as Fredericks at West Ham. There is a saying that 'Home is where the heart is' and we never know how good it is until its gone. I was reading about Ross Macormack, and he publically stated that it was a bad move when he left Fulham and he is full of regrets. None of his moves worked out for him. We had a really good system with the above guys which worked for us and all it needed was a tweak here and there. We can identify piece by piece of the jigsaw why our team stopped working and playing beautiful football and us fans should take some blame also. Remember the play-offs? This or that player won't cut it in prem? etc. Now look at our team...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 12:16 PM
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babel was rubbished on here by a few people before he even kicked a ball but was clearly our biggest threat going forward while on the park,i think sess should drop into the left back role with his pace could link up well with babel as bryan not good enough,mitro needs help up front to keep us up the park more to take a bit pressure off our woeful defense
Agree. Sess left back is a good call.
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 10:41 PM
Sess at LB is not good enough defensively. The youngster is still learning the game, and this season in the EPL is one big curve for him.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 1:55 AM
Babel played very well in our first half and deserved to have scored. He's a trier, and when he's fully fit, he might well save us from the drop. However, 4 of our remaining home games see both Manchester clubs, Liverpool and Chelsea for us to contend with. While our defence has improved under Ranieri, it's still not good enough to keep clean sheets.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 2:01 AM
How many goals did Sessegnon score last year? As was said of Allan Clarke, "he'll never make a full back". Why ruin the kid for short term, and unlikely, gain?
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 2:15 AM
We know Joe Bryan isn't brilliant, but at the same time, we are not pulling trees up by scoring goals upfront lately. That is more of a worry for me now. We always make mistakes at the back, we wouldn't be Fulham otherwise.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 7:50 AM
Let's not get carried away with Babel. Yes, he put in the effort but he missed a free header and a one on one with the keeper. I also didn't see much from him in the 15 minutes he played in the second half.

As I wrote below as well, he put in the effort and brought Mitro into play more but after only 60 minutes on the pitch let's not set him up as our savior - the jury hasn't even left the court room yet let alone still out.

Sess at Left back - NOOOOOOoooooooOOOo!
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 8:11 AM
Big Sam says that one of the present bottom three will get out of it, and although he did not name us, I have a feeling that he meant us. However he did mention in conversation with Alan Brazil, that Fulham just have to strengthen their defence. Not exactly rocket science, so for goodness sake get on with it now Claudio, or move over and let someone manage who will, as we have reached the last chance saloon.
posted by Malden Mick (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 8:51 AM
Agreed MST, nobody should judge Babel until he has played more minutes. Obviously that goes for people who were prejudging him based on his age and his apparent fitness levels before he had even kicked a ball for us last week!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 9:17 AM
Touche' ;0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 9:37 AM
"pulling trees up" jesus cant you try English?
posted by doom (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 12:40 PM
MST - Babel isn't 100% fit. That was acknowledged by Ranieri and I didn't expect him to be at his best for the time he was on the field. What he offers in endeavour is more than the rest of the so-called attack, and I support his attitude 100%. Pity we don't have defenders with the same attitude as we would be well clear of the relegation zone by now.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 1:04 PM
Think I already agree with that ST ;0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 3:21 PM
Sess can link up nicely to supply Mitro and Babel. Why give him defensive headaches to deal with? Too much work coming back for sess and Mitro. Will our board please draft in someone more central real quick to help Bryan and Christie...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:30 PM
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Do not forget its Bolton v WBA tonight
Just after Dick barton special agent. On talking pictures on the box channel eighty one .
posted by geezer (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 7:21 PM
Also staring Jock & Snowy
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I was at HGS 1949-54 with Mick Smith who was an ardent Fulham supporter. His dad had season tickets and we would talk all week about our favourite team.I guess you'll be 82 now Mick so be nice to know you are still around.JB
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Mr Khan needs psychological help to overcome his mental disorder. It's great to love your kids....I love mine very much. BUT, if a child of mine kept overpaying for bad free agent players for my multi million dollar sports clubs I'd fire them immediately, cut them out the will, change my phone number,close down their bank accounts and change my address so I could completely get rid. I could care less about young Tony messing about w the perennially bad Jags, but paying £30M for Anguissa is another.
Trying to work out why bournmouth with 10,000 in at the gate create a very good team that holds its own , wolves spend out on one player and are ripping teams apart, Cardiff spend sod all and are down with us, newc with 50,000 plus in the gate don't spend but are still above us,but we spend 100, mill plus on players who don't deliver nothing,what the answer??? bad coaching, bad buying,?why do bournmouth manage with so few overseas players? questions questions , no answers.Except we do have bad coaching and bad buying, so that's half the problem solved, so neil pearson any one.?
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:25 PM
Sorry deliver nothing,.
posted by the realarch bishop (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:26 PM
It's because they don't have Tony Khan's spreadsheet and Claudio Ranieri's ineptitude!!
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:28 PM
Presume the people in charge of new players are inexpirienced or need to look at players the old fashioned way or dare I say it don’t buy players recommended by agents and in our plight TO late now and hindsight is wonderful kept last years squad and added a few prem expirenced lads and got rid of one or two of old squad
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My mate just belled me saying that Cahill wanted a two year deal. And we only wanted him till end of season. Why do we do this ever year. Then the loans go back then we are short again for the start of the new season. And panic buys start again. Short termism never works. But what f////ks me is the kids again dont get a look in. Even now start the kids ready for next season what ever happens.
Why would he want to sign for 6 months, suicide again from the club not offering 2 1/2 3 year contract
posted by Pez (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:18 PM
I disagree. It wasn't a loan to start with it was a free transfer and a six month contract allows Cahill and FFC to re-evaluate the situation at the end of the season. Works both ways as I am sure Cahill would want to stay in the Prem.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:46 PM
I believe these clowns want us to go down, who can blame Cahill not signing for 6 months.These khans don't have a f-cking clue.
posted by Down (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:47 PM
Our management and owners just make me sick. It's not as if we can't afford to pay Cahill, Drinkwater or Moses, it just appears that they are so short sighted and mean, and they are not doing the their best to keep us in the League. It looks like Moses will be joining Crystal Palace anyway, so that's another off of our list.
posted by Malden Mick (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:48 PM
Chelsea spend 50 million+ on strikers regularly and ruin them and sell them on for nothing. So I don't see why they wouldn't just cancel his contract for nothing (8 years service) for a centre back that's running down his contract and let him join on a free. Then all we have to do is get the contract sorted correctly
posted by Pez (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:59 PM
Some of you must get real about this...the owner backed the club by spending over a staggering £100million on playing staff, yes as it turns out we made some seriously bad purchases. We now have a squad on heavy contracts, you cannot just relinquish any responsibility for this. To pour fuel on a fire is just madness. players will only want to come to our club if they get a decent contract, we cannot offer this, it would be financial suicide to do so, notwithstanding the fair Play rules should we get relegated. Think Sunderland, could easily be us if we go silly. I think we should accept we might go down and regroup for a promotion push next season. Throwing money at the problem, based on our Summer's experience just isn't going to work. I might send apologetic on behalf of the owner, I must add that there has been some serious mis-management (Khan jnr, Mcintosh again!) and these people should be held to account. Ranieri needs to work with this squad and to get the best out of it for the rest of the season.
posted by Joka's Revenge (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 2:01 PM
Totally agree with Geezer, the Khans are making us look like a temp agency, get a player in that’s over the hill for six to twelve months, pay him for not grafting and let him go. Young players being stopped from getting game time while the over rated temps bake about. Yes I know they have experience, experience in doing as little as possible. Look at Schurrle, I’ve seen more life in a two day old pint of London pride. Disgraceful way this club is being run, or should I say run down.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 2:03 PM
Why all this worry about the signing of new players, as come what may, we are still going down the Championship, so why don't we wait for the summer transfer window, to sort out who we will need for another promotion push, Providing that we keep Mitro, Sessingnon, Betts, Johansen, Bryan Seri Mawson and Schuurle, that should be a good nucleolus of a team to build on, and with a couple of additions, we should be hot favourites to win the title. We might even persuade Arsenal to part with Chambers. This non enjoyable season should be put well behind us, and it will be lovely to start winning on a regular basis again.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:07 PM
I think this might be a first but I completely agree with you Mr Jarvis ;0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:29 PM
Well summed up Brian, but would we be able to persuade any of our present squad to stay with us, apart from Andre who is on a two season loan anyway ?
posted by A C (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:42 PM
Agree MST maybey Cahill would want away if it goes tits. Up which suits both parties bear in mind Cahill earning power will start to deacrease
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:21 PM
Joka' was some of that 100 mill part of the prize money for winning at Wembley? Owners are funding our new stand but i think we won a big cash bonus for reaching the prem? Probably in installments but nevertheless...
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Yes, we all know what Ranieri has changed tactically for our team, playing 5 at the back and two holding midfielders isn’t rocket science. But making us a counter attacking team isn’t going to work because our team is not getting forward quickly enough and with enough players to do harm to exceptional defences. Mitrovic is on his own up front and has a thankless task of keeping three defenders occupied, he does well but it just isn’t going to win us games, and we need to win games. And, yesterday against Spurs we all saw the 2nd goal coming; in the final 20 minutes of the game our only hope of defending was attacking them or at least getting the ball in their half and pressing. A tired Mitrovic just meant the ball would keep coming back and eventually we would concede with, and let’s be honest, the very average defenders we have. Frankly, Bryan is the worst left back defensively (not much good going forward either) I have seen in the PL. If he continues to play he will cost us more games. The defensive line was get deeper and deeper and Ranieri and I would suggest Rico need to take some blame for this happening. We do really need a defensive leader, like Cahill. Lastly, Ranieri should have brought on Cairney instead of Cisse, it was a time in the game we needed to get on the ball and thread passes to Sess and Kebano to waste the time away. I can see what Ranieri is doing but at the moment it is not working. Time is ticking fast, we must take 4 points at least from the next two PL games otherwise the points gap for safety will be a stretch too far even this early…..what a shame after last season’s heroics.
If we can repeat the first half performance for the whole match we'll escape relegation. However, we need a dominant back 4/3 defender.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:52 PM
The facts don't really add up Jokanovic got 5 points from his 13 games. Ranieri has already got 9 points from his first 10 games, lets wait and see but he is defiantly not the worst manager.
posted by Tezza (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:29 PM
Sorry this was a response to 'CR worst manager since Magth' not your comment
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OK you season ticket holders you can be in denial but its game over. Why are you wasting your money when there are people starving in this country. This club is going knowhere. Back to the game, who was marking Ali, it must have been obvious that if anyone was going to score it would be him. furthermore at 90+3 what are Spurs or more to the point why are Spurs being allowed to attack, dont tell me Fulham wanted to sit on a point, such ambition. This club is rubbish and do not deserve to be in the premiership. Truth hurts doesnt it?
Raymond go play in the playground with children your own age....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:10 PM
Odoi was closest to alli but he ducked. No shout from the keeper shouldn’t have ducked, I love Rico but on this occasion he should have shouted come off his line and claimed both crosses or at least got a punch to the ball. Ream had a shocker with the air swing aswell so three mistakes led to the first goal
posted by Pez (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:22 PM
MST Let’s respect people’s opinions without resorting to childish remarks. You purport to be a moderator and therefore you should know better.
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:56 PM
Well said Jim.
posted by Bean (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:12 PM
I agree there is a lot of people on the bread line. A lot of oaps on here are season ticket holders i am one of them. But some people carnt be helped. So instead of having a dog. a jam jar. and tom. smokes. and loads of kids and drugs. a forty five inch goggle box. They need to spend some on food. And not chips and chicken. As i said before a lot of oaps on here have been through worse and there mums and dads have put food in front of them. It might been stoge but it filled bellies .And please dont say that was in the good old days.
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:23 PM
If you’re that concerned Raymond, suggest you sell your laptop and feed the hungry. Probably worth more than a season ticket 100% of which have been paid for already, so no saving there. Tell you what, you talk the club into refunding what’s left on my season ticket and you can have it. You can have my son’s too. Meantime clear off with your stupid contributions. And finally, Jim and Bean, are you serious?
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:45 PM
Jim and Bean you clearly don't come on here enough to know this person is a wind up merchant. Probably not even a school kid - in fact probably not a school kid.

How come it is ok for you lot to write anything you like but not me? Get real, I'm just a normal (although normal is debatable) fan and poster with a delete button, I am not here to be an f'in' role model!!!!

For the ONE BILLIONTH time; I am not affiliated to this board in any way shape for bloomin' form so please DO NOT expect me to act any different to any other person this board.

So sick of hearing "you're a moderator", "you should know better" (to be read in a childish voice).


posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:52 PM
I am with MST on this one Raymond of Eliot is a complete dick
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:55 PM
Elliot produced more than their fair share of them. Now Wandsworth comprehensive on the other hand.......
posted by Keetch54 - Monday 21st January 2019, 3:21 PM
MST you are my role model. Six figure salary, six figure bonus, paramour of Felicity Kendall, little filly tucked away in Amsterdam, holidays in the Caribbean, nice little estate in the Forest of Dean - what's not to admire?
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 21st January 2019, 3:31 PM
Ari your such a card LOL ;0)).

PS I don't get a six figure bonus (although that would be nice) and we mainly holiday in the Indian Ocean (although the Caribbean has been frequented from time to time I must admit) ;0)).

Finished my mortgage in December too (thank the Lord) so just got the deeds through for our "estate" as you call it. Might be looking for a holiday home in a town near you next so watch out ha ha ha :0)))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:09 PM
MST Raymond is a special case, the sheer mention of kids will make him come on here time and time again. He will shortly be under my care and attention as I have requested his IP address, in the meantime please stay calm.
posted by Dr Frasier Crane (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:35 PM
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:58 PM
MST. Then learn how to get moderator off your name please.
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:19 PM
Ari then you would be very impressed with my credentials lol.
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:21 PM
I'm sure I would Jimbo but I bet it doesn't include the yummy Felicity Kendall. That's an MST exclusive.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:26 PM
Come on MST don’t let that tw****t get you down he just wanted a reaction and got it !! And as an ex moderator I’m right behind you !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:33 PM
I’m jealous Arizonan !!were did it all go wrong for me
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:34 PM
Fame and fortune count for nothing Len, just makes life a bit easier.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:44 PM
Jim, trust me, it’s not for the wantbif trying.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 7:47 PM
Len, I am unsure who your comment is aimed but I apologise if I have interrupted a personal old boys club. Lol.
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 7:47 PM
MST i understand. Perhaps you could try the guest option as MST lol.
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 7:48 PM
Cant do that because of registration cookies which retain the registered name which, if you'd registered, you might have known.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 21st January 2019, 8:01 PM
I am registered so I think you may have been mislead
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 8:43 PM
O well back to the football
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 8:44 PM
Posting as registered.
posted by Jim - Monday 21st January 2019, 8:57 PM
Posting unregistered
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 8:58 PM
Using your laptop and then your phone. Not impressed really.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 21st January 2019, 9:08 PM
You can tell it was Monday and the football was poor :0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 8:15 AM
Ari honestly same device both times. No tricks
posted by Jim (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 10:31 AM
Try it yourself. No tricks
posted by Jim (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 10:33 AM
Jim I’m always having a little pop at MST credentials at last he’s mentioned as an ex moderator with a button to block posts wish we all had one of them anyway MST you are the godfather !!!! Keep up the good work !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 6:54 PM
Arizonani could do with an easier life !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 7:03 PM
You and me both brother. Jimbo, I'll leave the tricks up to you. (The other Jim, in Arizona).
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 22nd January 2019, 11:35 PM
Len, that's all I've EVER had mate; don't know why you think differently but there you go :0).
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Can anyone ell me where that expression comes from it makes no sense to me.
I believe it is from the olden days of showtime. The last person on the stage was a fat lady signing the national anthem. No doubt someone will know more...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 11:29 AM
thanks MST.
posted by jimjim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 11:58 AM
The official meaning is that one should not presume to know the outcome of an event whilst it is still in progress. Where the fat lady fits in is not made clear!
posted by Other John (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:46 PM
Baseball matches always ended with the singing f the US National Anthem - as often as not this was led by a large soprano (fat lady)
posted by Fact checker (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:46 PM
Who is the Fat Lady, and why do we have to wait for her to sing before it''s all over?

Anthony, London UK
I've always assumed this refered to the Prima Donna, the large, women who would sing the final aria at the end of an opera, usually as she's dying.

Tom Garrisi, Houston USA

The story I heard was that Al Capone became much enamoured of opera, swotting up with scores, records, and even tutors, until he regarded himself sufficiently au fait to sample the real thing. Accompanied by two bodyguards, he took his seat at the opera house. After the first aria, the goons rose to leave, whereupon Al grabbed them by their coattails: "Siddown," he growled, "it ain't over till the fat lady sings".

Mark Power, Dublin Ireland

Kate Smith, a large lady, used to sing the 'Star Spangled Banner' at the end of American football matches in the 1950s. Thus one knew the game was over when she sang.

Tony, London UK

The phrase "It's not over until the fat lady sings" is actually a mis-quote. The correct phrase is "It's not over until the fat lady sinks" and has its origins in the game of billiards. The black eight ball was commonly referred to as the "fat lady" so no matter how bad the game was for a competitor it wasn't over until the "fat lady" sank.!!

Debbie Pollard, Yorkshire uk

It's from a variety show in the United States called the Grand Ole Opry. A very large woman named Lulu Roman would sing at the end of every show.

Elvira Clarke, Lima Peru

Dame Nelly Melba was a woman of considerable, operatic proportions. During a triumphant tour of Australia concessions were offered to school groups and teachers notes to accompany the event included an advisory covering arrival, seating, general conduct in this formal setting and the line "Please tell all students that the show isn't over until the fat lady sings."

Fiona, Kaitaia New Zealand

It is not "sink"! Kate Smith sang "God Bless America" at the START of the Philadelphia Flyer's Ice Hockey team, which is why fans said "It ain't BEGUN 'til the fat lady sings!" The first person is correct, it is about the last female opera singer in many operas.

Geela, NJ USA

posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:55 PM
I enjoyed all of that knowledge is a wonderful thing.
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 3:06 PM
I just got edumacated...
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 21st January 2019, 3:34 PM
I have just realised that in answering a qiery on this site I referred to a lady as being fat, of course I should have used the term obese. My apologies to any members of the Politically correct brigade who may have been upset. I would appreciate if you refrained from informing the police as a serious offence such as this could well see me being dragged off in chains to the Tower of London.
posted by Other John (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:16 PM
Obese is offensive to obese people. Horizontally challenged would be more suitable LOL. That from someone with a BMI of 27 - whatever that means ;0))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:26 PM
Means you flew for Britih Midland International (as was) who, strangely enough, had a fleet of 27 aircraft. Gear up please, flaps one, noise abatement in ten seconds ...
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:48 PM
Made me giggle...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 4:59 PM
Think the fat ladies getting warmed Up sad to say !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:38 PM
Think the al Capone ones best !!! Maybey young khan should shout it out after our next home game !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:40 PM
The billiard ones a load of balls !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 6:43 PM
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IF our side can play like that against one of the top teams in the Premiership why all the fear - sack the Manager demands are ridiculous and what player would pledge his playing career to us at this time. Anyone who cannot see the improvement since Mr Ranieri arrived is blind. He has already stated that he needs players and particuarly a leader on the field and may I suggest a leader a Tony Adams or Brede Hegeland in defence. Someone to tell the others what to do. Only player below par Ryan Sessegon who was devestated at full time. He needs a arm round his should his chin is definately slipping. What our team now is REAL Fulham FC supporters not snippers. COME ON FULHAM.
posted by doom (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 11:05 AM
And where may I ask are we able to secure the services of an Adams or a Hegeland?
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 11:10 AM
Improvement? Blind if we don't see it?

You do realise Ranieri has achieved the same points total as Slavisa with one more game??

posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 21st January 2019, 11:28 AM
RoC we lost again from a winning position because of the managers decisions. He was supposed to come in and organise some stability in the team, he has succeeded in making it more chaotic by making players play to in system that is even more unstable than we had before. He needs to go.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:54 PM
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In the first half I thought wow, the players have finally got it; they are playing with passion and pride and although we still looked fragile in parts Bryan and Christie for the most part had Trippier and Rose in their pockets, Seri was getting stuck in and getting about the pitch, Babel (to my amazement) looked dangerous and brought Mitro into play more often and even the back three looked confident in each other.

We were lucky to go a goal up, I agree but it was only what we deserved with our high press, aggressive tackling and progressive play.

Then comes the second half and it is really clear that Ranieri's plan was to try and protect our lead. We got deeper and deeper and we were saying where I sit that, it was only a matter of time before Spurs scored and ergo they did just that.

Then the strangest substitutions I have seen this season. Although Sess got stuck in straight away I don't think Kebano had a touch and Cisse's touches you could count on one hand.

The players looked confused, they couldn't cobble two passes together and the whole shape of the team and the dynamic of the game changed for the worse. How we made it to 92 minutes without conceding the second I'll never know and it was no surprise to me when it finally happened.

In my opinion Ranieri is 100% to blame for this loss and when I called him a buffoon last week it was an understatement. His tactics and changes in the second half completely took away any continuity we had and Spurs took full advantage. The only positive for me is that, if we play like that against some of the lower teams (starting with Brighton) we will win more points than we drop. The problem is that we play top six sides at home after the Brighton game and will most likely be out of sight of 17th place come mid-March.

Blame for our predicament:
~ Tony Khan for his poor recruitment
~ Claudio Ranieri for his crazy team selections, ridiculous tactics with ball playing players and substitutions
~ Slavisa Jokanovic for his naivety in thinking we could play the same way we did in the Championship without a plan B

The perfect storm unfortunately means we will no doubt finish 19th and will be back in the Championship in turmoil fighting to stay there for a season or two.
I share your frustration. The choice of substitutes was strange. But, the effort in the first hour was bound to take its toll and fresh legs were required. When we needed to keep possession why not Cairney? When we were obviously going to suffer a barrage of high balls why bring on two of the smaller players? Regrettably, Sess looks off the pace this year so far and lacks the confidence to run past defenders. However pi**ed off the manager is with Kamara he would have made it more difficult for Spurs to push forward. I doubt that anything will save us this season, but extra quality players are essential if we are going to have any chance. Trouble is that it might be throwing good money after bad at this stage, so Khan might have decided to cut his losses and focus on the Championship next year.
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After yesterday's oh so sad defeat, all and sundry are writing us off, including most posting on this site, and we are odds on now by the bookies for the drop. However wouldn't it be just Fulhamish to defy all of the odds and all of the pundits, and be the ones to pull out of the bottom three. It's not impossible, and I know that we have still to play a few of the big guns at home, but they are at home, so with a couple of signings, we could make our home games count, and surprise either Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United or City. They will all come to the Cottage as we are in for an easy win attitude, and like yesterday, when we were oh so unlucky, it will be Fulhamish to take points of two or three of them. It can be done lads, let's do it. COYW
And Fulamish if TK makes appropriate signings. We live in hope.
posted by Bean (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 10:02 AM
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Probably the saddest aspect of this so far forgettable season apart from all the miserable doom merchants that our club seem to have attracted is the realisation that the promised land is all a bit of a myth. According to the robotic Alan Partridge wannabes that commentate on Sky football matches the English Premier League is the Promised Land of football not only in this country but in the world. The truth is that the only rewards your average football team can expect from this carnival of greed are of the financial variety, Leaving the anomaly that was Leicester City aside it is a league dominated by the rich and powerful of the English game. Apart from the handful of clubs that have broken away from the mere mortals the rest of us are seen as fodder, Nice bit of practice in between the top six showdowns and those ever so lucrative European games. Many of our followers are claiming that relegation will be easier to accept as the Championship is a much more interesting league, you don’t develop an inferiority complex and on any given match day the supporter arrives with the feeling that the game can possibly be won. This is all well and good but begs the question What is the point of achieving success at this level when it leads you back to the Premier League the place you were quite happy to drop away from. The answer always comes back to money, fortunes can be made by spending just one season amongst the so called elite. Call me an old dinosaur but I am a football supporter not an accountant, I want to be entertained by the action on the pitch not the movement of figures in the bank balance. Football has had its golden era it finished about 30 years ago Today’s over hyped tosh is all smoke and mirrors. Match day prices a joke with obscene salaries and outrageous transfer fees part of the punchline. Having said that I don’t accept that we are already down, last night revealed a possible glimpse of team spirit returning. Of course it will be tough and the odds are very much against us. We are Fulham and should not expect it any other way. I am not a great fan of the Premier League but would love to see us defy the odds by surviving if only to severely piss off the all knowing media and various smug pundits.
posted by Macedo (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 9:48 AM
And not forgetting the refs backing top six small example which happens all the time Sterling scores for Man City just off side goal given Mitrovic scores just off side not given happens all the time with all there star players and money and help from powers that be small clubs have little chance
posted by Badger (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 10:17 AM
Well done Eddie! best post I have seen on here for years. More please from you.
posted by nosferatu (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 11:10 AM
Ditto eddie
posted by geezer (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:41 PM
Eddie, you're an old dinosaur and so am I. Well said mate.
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Kit Symons' blawhiarmy!
Rubbish they were doomed before he got here proud of players yesterday gave there all same at Burnley better side he hard conditions improvement not been enough but looked worst under Jokanovic in Premiership insult to put them in same breath as mad German
posted by Badger (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 10:23 AM
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He lives in London, related to Scott Parker, looking for a permanent move from Bournemouth (already @Cardiff on loan) what do we reckon?
He would get my vote in the current circumstances.
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 9:48 AM
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I won't deny that our defence is not the best and it is most probable that we will concede a bad goal at the worst time in most games. Blame Joe Bryan, Christie, or Reamy, etc. I have done it along with most Fulham fans. Do Fulham have the worst defenders in this league? I put to you a bit of reverse thinking psychology here and let's start with Mitrovic. A Newcastle fan who i have to put up and work with always repeats the reasons why Benitez sold him to us, and the main reason is that he doesn't score enough goals and he will not be able to because of his style of play. Mitrovic does occupy defenders and he is a nightmare to mark. Most good defenders do a good job marking him. I bet you if we ask Pochettino about Sanchez marking Mitrovic, Pochettino would say Sanchez did his job to perfection and he would be correct. That is why Babel the sticking plaster was drafted in, to play and run off Mitrovic and hopefully score goals. We need a lot more firepower than Babel can give at age 32 and sadly, it is too late to save our season? We are not mathematically down yet and you never know. Fulham have shipped a bucketful of goals and we are breaking records left right and centre in the wrong directions, but is it mostly a defensive issue? We are halfway into the season now and put defence to one side and re-play every single missed chances we have and everyone can see that we have more of a problem up front. Watch any game of football and most defenders make mistakes in games. Spurs gifted us chances galore to win that game and yet again we fail. Psychologically, the impact and the stress falls back onto our defence every single time. All the best teams and average teams get out of jail because they score goals to compensate for mistakes and some luck comes into the equation. Good and bad news always filter down to players, staff, board, and everybody connected. Ream, Joe Bryan, etc, will be more nervous as hell come the Brighton game. We are in a spiral of doom and we need to break this bad spell. Put that ball into the opposition net, and no offside hit the post, hitting row Z or whatever. Ranieri has done the best out of a bad situation with defence and we are more compact and keep a shape. What he cannot do is miracles with our front-line. Our goal record is more shocking and causes a catastrophic effect on our back line than anything.
Good post and would agree with most of it. Cannot agree with Ranieri at all. Historically we are a team that ships late, late goals and other teams know that we are prone to this. Why did Ranieri start with this line up? I would have thought we would of started with Sess and had Babel on the bench. Once we were in a position to get something out of the game bring on Babel, Cairney for Seri and Schurrle. This gives us the option to go at our opponents at pace in the closing period of the match, it also allows us to keep the ball instead of trying to defend a lead with a shaky back line. Mitro works hard up top but cannot sustain the constant battering he gets every game. As he is not blessed with speed he should be left up front to do his job in the box, not having to chase down forward moving defenders. By doing This if we play a long ball Mitro will be out of position as he has tracked back, Cairney is clever enough to notice this and would hold on to the ball until Mitro is in place and he would not just lump it up into unoccupied space. For me we need calm and intelligent defenders who can organise themselves and play out to our players and not kick and hope up the park. Spurs introduced Dire late on and they had settled for a point, this should have been a trigger for us to play higher up defensively and keep the ball in their half, unfortunately we did not have the required personnel or intelligence to do this. Basic football gets us points from this game.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 9:04 AM
Hindsight is great Gaz, but basically you are right. I'm not convinced with Sessignon this season- he doesn't deserve a starting place on his current form, but the game was crying out for Cairney.
posted by Little Ern (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 11:35 AM
Hindsight is great Gaz, but basically you are right. I'm not convinced with Sessignon this season- he doesn't deserve a starting place on his current form, but the game was crying out for Cairney.
posted by Little Ern (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 11:37 AM
Being fulhamish we will probably string some results together to give us hope then just get relegated by one point to continue this seasons brain anarism
posted by Pez (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:27 PM
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So, as all American sentances start, I dug out an old book on the club to look at the great escape of 1966 (great escapes are not new to FFC). We were nailed to bottom place in February with five wins from the first twenty-nine matches and were five points adrift. For the kiddies amongst us, there were only two points a game then so the deficit was seven to eight points in todays money. Very unexpectedly, we beat champions Liverpool 2:0 and went on a run of nine wins and two draws from the last thirteen games, the last being against Northampton with the loser being relegated. Fulham won 4:2 after twice coming from behind. It can be done and we've done it before, several times. Despite the result there weere several big positives to take from today's game. Seri, for the first time, showed commitment and skill. So did Babel, who was impressive and quickly into his stride. Chambers and Mitrovic played well also and caused the Spurs defence a lot of problems so there's reason to believe we're not out of the PL just yet. Team selection and coaching may yet prove to be a bigger problem than player's performance. We looked equal to Spurs in the first half and with the offside goal and a deserved penalty could have been three up at half time. Keep the faith. It 'aint over yet.
Sorry Jim they were very different days. No loanees and a 1st division where most teams had a chance to compete. We are gone regardless of what the fat lady thinks...
posted by Hints (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 1:47 AM
I understand the sentiments, I still have some optimism but rationally it still looks bleak time. and it needs to start Immediately. After Brighton the next home games are Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool and city. We need to be getting some points against them and and picking up wins away and with this defence that seems big ask. I think we might catch Cardiff, but I suspect Newcastle and Burnley are going to be picking up points. The possible silver lining is that Burney’s run in is horrific where as our final games are largely winnable, so if we can actually start winning a few and be in touch with 5 games to go...... Anyway, let’s just hope it’s at least interesting.
posted by JimmyJazz (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 3:38 AM
Agree totally with your assessment of the individual and team performance, much better. Really thought we had held on, really disappointed at final result, but that’s how it is. Babel was a revelation, remembering him from his Liverpool days I couldn’t understand why we would sign him. It could be a masterstoke, he brought Mitro into the game much more than of late. We’ve been far too narrow in recent games. Bryan and Christie have too many mistakes in them, but did operate more effectively giving once again more width. As you say Seri was more effective, although once again too many mistakes. Love Ream, but once again too many mistakes, Le Marchand too really. Same goes for Odoi, albeit he’s one of the first on my team sheet every week. If only these guys can iron out the mistakes we’ve got half... maybe a quarter chance. Thought Chambers was top draw again. Team looks so much better without Cairney, he’s too slow or disinterested and has a negative effect on the whole buildup. We’ve been through many close run things down the years, as you say and I guess we could do it, but the gulf between the top clubs and the rest is far greater these days, and currently we’re not even picking up crumbs:( I’ll keep hoping.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 7:56 AM
Love your " never say die" attitude Jimmy Jazz. But how on earth can we pick up any points against the likes of Man U,Chelsea, Liverpool and City. Remember yesterday we were at home to a weakened Spurs side and forget all the ifs buts and should have beens we couldn't get the three points we so badly needed.They say football is a funny old game but sadly it's not that funny!
posted by Other John (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 9:23 AM
Sorry Mortlake i thought the full backs were awful teams target Christie they know he cant stop crosses . Bryan out of position in the box too often should have seen Winks run and got in front of him or at least challenged him . Sky pundits were critical of Christie’s positioning for the Dele Allie goal they are both not even average Premiership players . And as for Ranieri why didn’t he bring on Cairney the team was crying out for a holding player and Kamara may be a hot head but he is a better player than either Kebano and Ayite . Pity we have a poor group of players and a manager who is well past his sell by date . It’s going to be a painful run in .
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 10:25 AM
If the Sky pundits said that, I must be right:))
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Enjoyed the match until the end today other than frozen winds in second half! We're good as gone now, looking forward to going back to last years feeling of going to the ground thinking we will win every time we turn up. This year's kick has been appalling however when you revisit: 1. 2 points dropped at BHA on a Mitro hand ball. 2. 2 points dropped against NUFC when Mitro hit a leg instead of the winner. 3. 2 points dropped vs Wolves with a clearance off the line with an inch to spare. 4. 3 points lost at Burnley thanks to 2 OGoals. 5. 1 point lost due to letting the shortest man on the pitch score with a free header...when the ref should've blown the game dead 30 seconds before. Oh well, more matches at better prices next year.
Just gutted that our fate is sealed after only 23 games. At least if it had gone to the wire in Aprl/May, we’d have got value for money for our season tickets. From here on in, it just feels like fifteen exhibition games.
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 12:24 AM
It’s pointless I know, but the pivot point I keep going back to is Mitro beng offside when Shürlle put it in the net away to Huddersfield. An equaliser there and we draw or better and probably SJ gets more time before getting the elbow. Then, there is no doubt we would go on a 24 match unbeaten run and have Champions league instead of Championship. Then mankind can finally come together to end all wars, invent a device to get pickled onions out of jars, solve climate change, elect a functioning UK government and live happily ever after.
posted by JimmyJazz (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 2:40 AM
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First half we tried hard , pressed high and totally deserved lead - but second half we retreated into a defensive shell , had little threat and conceded midfield . Spurs much the better side , although a winning goal in the last minute of extra time was harsh . We now have to realistically accept we are down , little point new stop gap players arriving , we need to plan for the future . Sell Mitro , he is wasted at our club and deserves better .Sess is seeing his value decreased week on Week by CR , by the season end we will be lucky to get £15m for him . Cairney was wasted on the subs bench , he should have replaced Seri after hour .or Schurrie after 20 minutes , Bring Betts back in goal , he is the future , Rico will be gone at season end . The club is rudderless from the top down . We are where we are not because of bad luck but constantly bad decision making on and off the pitch .
Were you at the match? Not a big fan of Seri so far but for me he was the man of the match today for Fulham. I am not sure we were negative in the second half or Spurs simply stepped up a gear. I suspect a bit of both. You could argue we lost the game because we were trying the play a bit of positive football near the end...and lost our shape (and legs) near the end! I actually walked away more positive than I ever been since Ranieri joined. Christie was our weak link today and spurs noticed it and change their game plan the second half. Otherwise, Seri, Chambers, Bryan, Babel, mitro all played well! Hopefully there’s a bit of green shoot from today’s game!
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 20th January 2019, 11:01 PM
John, If you think Bryan had a good game today, I suggest you know very little about football, the man is a liability, out of his depth, continually marking fresh air, CR should never again put this liability on the team sheet.
posted by JRD (Guest) - Sunday 20th January 2019, 11:39 PM
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The first half was terrific. Babel was also terrific. So interesting to see how abig striker helped Mitro. I loved Ream last year, but he knows he is not good enough right now to be a premier player. We do need another centre half. It maybe all too late, but if they continue play like the first half we may just survive
Bruce! You’re winding us up right??? Babel missed 2 sitters that would have won us the game. He typifies the quality of players we are able to bring to the club. Why the f@ck did we swap Slavisa for this clown?
posted by Mo Lester (Guest) - Monday 21st January 2019, 8:06 AM
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WE are all gutted with result today but no surprise this is Fulham relegated without doubt. Simple basics of marking behind a player shutting down to stop crosses and it is schoolboy stuff. However the crazy perspective is the Khans who I have no time for at this wonderful club can’t lose financially and do care. Here’s why. We spent £100 m - we got £150 m for promotion. Net gain £50 million . Then being relegated another £40 million net gain £90 million . If we stay in championship for 2 seasons another £80million. Therefore with no real strategy transfer additions etc Khans total net gain £170 million . Now that’s why Khans don’t give a s@@@0
Kevin - great maths and economics! I assume all our players play for free and we can terminate their contracts as and when we want without costs? We spent above our means. There’s no profit unless we stay up. The problem is not the owners not prepared to spend, but we didn’t spend wisely!
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 20th January 2019, 10:55 PM
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Happy birthday TC! Do yourself a favour. Ask for a transfer request! You deserve to be at a better place than this!
Probably deserve to play in the championship preferably for a team near the top where he can pose
posted by Mike (Guest) - Sunday 20th January 2019, 9:07 PM

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