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Just like any Fulham fan, I love Marco Silva. In just over three years, our Portuguese manager has won the Championship title, taken us to an FA Cup quarter-final and a League Cup semi-final while playing the best football we’ve seen since the days of Slavisa Jokanovic in the Championship. You could write article after article about his strengths as Fulham manager (and we have!), but not enough might get said about his weaknesses. However, there definitely are some.Fulham have started the season really strongly, with some eye-catching performances against some of the biggest names in the league, such as Man City, Man United, and Newcastle. The frustration has come not from the performances, but the results at the end of them. If xG is to be believed, Fulham’s performances should have resulted with a spot in the league’s top three, and yet, at the time of writing, we sit in (admittedly a respectable) 10th.At Old Trafford on the opening day, Fulham had dominated in spells and defended admirably, yet it was Joshua Zirkzee with an 88th-minute winner for the hosts that left Fulham with zero points on the board. Four games in and a similar frustration followed. Fulham were better than West Ham in every aspect at Craven Cottage and took a one-goal lead into stoppage time, before Danny Ings equalised with 95 minutes on the clock. An almost identical scenario occurred at Goodison Park on Saturday, this time with Beto scoring on 94 minutes to deny Silva’s side all three points. In and among that, Fulham went to the Etihad and were it not for some questionable finishing by Adama Traore, the Whites should have walked away with a comfortable win over the reigning Champions. So why does our points tally match the quality of our performances? One problem I’ve had with Marco Silva since even the Championship days was a weird struggle to motivate his side after the half-time interval. So often, Fulham’s most sluggish period in a game is in those first 10 minutes just after the break. While we should never expect a win against Man City, the game was finely poised at 1-1, and yet a 47th-minute goal from Mateo Kovacic put us instantly on the back foot after all the hard work done in the opening 45. This is a common trend across Silva’s three or so years at the club – and a worrying one. For a manager that our own squad describe as inspirational and a killer for the finer details, how come so often we start a half looking so sloppy and unmotivated?A further issue regarding game management and seeing wins out is this constant attempt to see a game out with a back five. On multiple occasions recently, Silva has liked to bring on a centre-back, often Issa Diop, to see a game out in a back five. However, it rarely looks to make us a more solid side. Against Everton at Goodison, Jorge Cuenca was bought on two minutes into stoppage time and in Everton’s first attack against said back five, Beto found space in the Fulham box to head home. So why do we persist with this idea when it doesn’t seem to benefit us? I came up with this analogy in the Fulhamish Community to describe why I don’t believe in simply bringing an extra defender on to see a game out…If you assemble a brick wall as quickly as you possibly can with very little time to do it and two raging bulls throw themselves at that wall, it’s structural integrity will be basically zero and it’ll be much more likely to fall down. Whereas, with a wall that’s been carefully assembled and has one calmer bull in and around it, its structural integrity will be greater (still with me?). Therefore, if a back four that has coped perfectly well with the likes of Calvert-Lewin for the full 90 minutes, why change the formation of that defence just because Beto and Michael Keane have gone up front? By rushing on Jorge Cuenca for two minutes, you are rushing to put together new foundations of a backline that is being overwhelmed by what’s coming towards it. It rarely works, and yet, so often in a position of promise late on, Silva continues to add an extra centre-half into the picture to see out a game.This is just one aspect of Marco Silva’s management that could be seen as stubborn. Whether it be formation, team selection, tactics or game management, Silva knows what he likes and sticks to it no matter what. And to be fair, it’s hard to fault that with the journey he has taken us on since the summer of 2021. However, there’s times when changes have to be made but aren’t made. The key example this season has to be the way he plays his number eights in his 4-3-3 system. For his whole tenure, this has been a system that has worked. The likes of Harrison Reed, Tom Cairney, Fabio Carvalho, Andreas Pereira and Alex Iwobi have all thrived in such positions at times. However, the past two months have shown an unwillingness from Silva to change things up when it hasn’t. Fulham’s midfield has clearly lacked balance at the start of the 2024/25 season, and that’s ultimately down to the dual eight positions being played by Emile Smith Rowe and Pereira. Any fan can see that playing both advanced options alongside each other isn’t working, both want the opportunity to thrive further forward and offer a distinct lack of defensive cover to the players behind them. But game after game, Silva persists with the same system and players within it.I’d never want a different manager, Marco Silva has done far more good for this football club than bad and has instilled a belief in the fan base that some things are achievable that previously may not have, such as European challenges and deep cup runs. But issues do exist, and as other articles have suggested inside and outside of the Fulhamish realm, making certain tweaks and changing certain attitudes may allow Fulham to go even further with what they are able to achieve under his management. He is our genius, but he’s by no means perfect.
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I found this from the Fulhamish news (cut&paste)and this discussion confirms all our thoughts about tactics, formations etc ect. I am delighted that they also see the problem with playing Smith Rowe where he plays right now and there needs to be a few tweaks here and there to make us better. We are not far off a top team and thats not a bad thing considering the size of our club. Will Marco change anything? Marco Silva is his own man and he will live or die by his tactics i guess but hey' we love him...
posted by OWEN - Friday 01st November 2024, 5:26 AM
 
 
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Looking at the forthcoming match against the Bees, l can only see One result.A win for Brentford. Why Fulham can only play for 80m At the most,so if the Bees are Level or one down, by that time The last10m will. See you with another defeat MARCO. Technically Inept.
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On your own there sooth thingy
posted by Dave (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 4:39 PM
 
Had a quick butchers at the small bentford message bored and most of them are not confident of even getting a draw .
posted by Jim (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 4:57 PM
 
Loathed to say it, but the Sooths; prediction could be correct Especially about us being an 80m team. Marco mut take the blame For our lacking fitness on the game Latter play.
posted by Old Un (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 5:05 PM
 
Aren't small bentford a 1st minute team who can't hang on to a lead ?
posted by Jim (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 5:38 PM
 
It’s taking part that matters. As long as it’s a sporting contest and all involved shake hands after then that’s all we can ask regardless of the result. I for one bought a Big Issue today, so I’ve done my bit to hold out the hand of friendship to our Brentford friends. Next time you’re at the traffic lights and a grubby retard wipes your windscreen with a damp candy striped rag, wind down the windows and give him a hearty ‘hail good fellow well met.’ No place for winners in the new socialist Utopia.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 6:15 PM
 
If we can't beat a very average Brentford side away from their leggo ground quite comfortably over 80 minutes, then we ought to ashamed of ourselves, as they are not even a decent Premier League team, but due to the bottom four being so abject this season, the bees will most probably stay up again this season, but it is only a matter of time, before the Championship will beckon.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 7:32 PM
 
Read ITEM by Paddy, QUITE TRUE WE DO SCORE IN THE FIRST 5/10 MIN. THEN WE SIT BACK. But remember this time we are playing against a 80 min team, so as the 1st poster said, EASY PEASEY.
posted by Kew (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 7:36 PM
 
!Me thinks! that win nothing Fulham, in 148 years will be relegated before us.
posted by BUZZI B (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 7:43 PM
 
Aaaah! The pungent aroma of sweat and meths. Or Midnight In Hounslow as it’s known to discerning paraffin lamps everywhere. I’m sure Mastos would agree.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 8:20 PM
 
They might not have a manager by then.
posted by Fred (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 11:41 PM
 
 
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So we got knocked out by Preston in the Carabao cup, and we were so lucky on reflection, as we could have come out of this round with a few injuries, as Palace have, with Eze and Wharton taking knocks,and possibly muscle injuries. Was it worth it, but beating a very weakened Villa side. Spurs beating all conquering Manchester City, sounds a great result for them, but the great smile on Pepe's face when they lost, says it all. It's turning to be a cup, that is set up for a mixture of first and second team players, with not one club involved fielding their best players. It's a waste of time, money grabbing competition, that I'm glad we missed out on.
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We have been in existence since 1879 and never won anything that mattered. It would have been nice to progress in this competition. We are never going to win the Premier League but it we played our best team in every round we have a chance of winning a cup. What is the point, other than making money, of being in the PL if you do not seriously try to win something.
posted by The Time Is Now - Thursday 31st October 2024, 7:21 AM
 
You both have a point, but the FA cup is really the only cup worth winning, and the Caraboa sponsors, should insist that the strongest sides are put out. Last night was a big example, with even Leicester playing Manchester United made 7 changes, so can anyone really have seen Spurs beating Manchester City, or Palace beating Villa, had they been serious about winning as both made wholesale changes. Even Fulham couldn't really be bothered to send out a strong side when we played Preston. Now let's get to Wembley again, and this time in the real cup final, but we must be serious about it, and send out our strongest side whoever we get drawn against.
posted by Brian from West Sussex (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 8:44 AM
 
The FA cup is not played mid week and should not get in the mind of managers who for some strange reason believe their super fit players cannot cope with two games a week. It annoys me when weakened teams are put out in the FA cup for no justifiable reason.
posted by The Time Is Now - Thursday 31st October 2024, 9:31 AM
 
 
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Every year we hope for improvements from our developments squads but with the odd exemption nothing else changes.King is our latest hope the rest will disappear into the sunset and reappear about 4 to 5 year time.Why is this either the scoutingse system isn’t good enough or the coaching system is poor,with more options we would have more homegrown in our squad we have none ,many clubs are in the same boat,why.We had a few came through in early eighty’s,all the big clubs bring some through ,chelsea,arsenal 3 of theirs are in our 1st team squad even Exeter produced stanfield and the forward at Aston Villa and a defender who went to Chelsea and then moved on 5 years ago Jennings said top academy a development squads cost over 2.5 mill to run now probably more a good hard look needs to be done it seems a waste.
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Just give up on the youth project. If they turn out to be any good they jump ship at the first opportunity. Waste of time and money
posted by Chimp (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 10:56 AM
 
Looks like Brum put out a full strength side...
posted by Krebs (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 11:27 AM
 
Blues was nowhere near full strength. Seven changes.
posted by Henry (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 4:04 PM
 
Birmingham played first team players albeit some squad players and a few returning from injury. Having said that, the Fulham team looked very lightweight despite playing the usual tippy tappy pretty triangles. Might be an idea to get some red meat on the Motspur Park canteen menu. Big old T bone before the game in future with a half time orange segment to loosen the bowels. It worked for Buggleskelly Rovers. I’m sure Mastos agrees.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 5:00 PM
 
What about the Alf Tupper fish & chip diet?
posted by Turkish Ed. (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 7:29 PM
 
Yep, just screw the studs into the bare feet. The Toughs of the Thames.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 8:08 PM
 
Having experience of the catering facilities at motspur park you will not be seeing steak just fish and pasta with the occasional treat of a calorie controlled cake of some description not that that will surprise you paddy !!
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 8:44 AM
 
tippy tappy pretty triangles is how nearly all teams in all four divisions play. Having the ball pumped up to two forwards is rather old fashioned, but against lower division teams in the cup might be successful. No managers are that clever or that stupid depending how you see it.
posted by The Time Is Now - Thursday 31st October 2024, 9:38 AM
 
paddy, buggleskelly had moore marriott at centre forward for them, and he was 95.
posted by heres hughie (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 3:03 PM
 
I thought you’d be a Desperate Dan cow pie man Ipi. Just wipe its a*se and drape a crust over its shoulders. Mastos would agree if got his finger out and posted again.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 6:18 PM
 
More Marriott, West Drayton’s finest son. Maybe have his dad on the wing and Will Hay in goal.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 6:21 PM
 
 
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dear all. some of you will have, until recently, seen the posts i have contributed over the years, and it has been an experience in many shapes and forms. the fact is that my health is not particularly good right now, and i have to attend to this as a priority. i am sad this has come at a time when the site has settled down after the midsummer madness surrounding one player, who has now departed. i was sorry though to see all the negative, and totally inaccurate comments about emile smith rowe- hes not a waste of money at all, its far too early to judge that, but some arent prepared to wait. i believe in time he will prove his worth. i would like to say thanks to owen, there cant be a more tireless contributor than the bard, those who have criticised him in the past should think of that. paddy o doors, you tell it as it is, unlike some of the wasters who sometimes come on here. bigboy 4650, i hope you finally get to be a moderator, when you do, you can delete all the rubbish from the meccano men like buzzi b, kew and realistic. thanks to all you real fans, and i wish you really well for the future. oh yes---C.O.Y.W !
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Masto, sorry to hear you are leaving us due to poor health and I trust you will regain your health. I assume that you, like myself and others, are retired and with age problems tend to multiply. I have no wish to become a Moderator, which is an onerous task, as MST is now back in the saddle. I respect and admire him for the work he does but no one can monitor the board 24/7 so moronic posting will always appear. Take care and continue to follow this board and our team which I started to watch in 1939 when my father first took me to the Cottage.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 4:08 PM
 
I am so sorry to hear that life isn't too good with you at the moment, so may I wish you all the very best for better health in the future. Like my goodself, there seems to be a great number of the older generation, who contribute to this site, and we are obviously going to lose members over the years, so it's a shame to lose you as contributer, but your health comes before anything, so very good luck to you, and I really hope that Fulham's result help to keep your chin up. Take care, and COYW
posted by Brian from West Sussex (Guest) - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 4:24 PM
 
There you go, thinking of yourself as usual. Unless your fingers are dropping off then I demand you carry on posting. No feeble excuses will be acceptable and you know how angry I get. In fact you don’t even need fingers, Buzzi turd and Splean use their trotters. This board needs all the actual Fulham supporters it can get so carry on and keep typing.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 4:31 PM
 
Am I missing something- I have never heard of this guy
posted by OVEN (Guest) - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 7:57 PM
 
Oven, that's a half baked posting !
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 9:31 PM
 
Sorry to hear about your illness Mastos' and all i will say is 'Get better soon' and 'God' Bless you! I will forever stay the optimist and try to keep it topical and interesting and i thank you for the complement! Bard and Shakespeare is a big one to live up to but i will try my best. There are some words-smiths better than me and they can write all this malarky better than i can if they chose to. My version of things all about Fulham is interesting to some and i am happy to carry on here with my Owen side of things until they put the thumbscrews on and torture me by racking. Farewell' dear friend' this is not the end...
posted by OWEN - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 12:17 AM
 
Sorry to hear that,there are some interesting posters on this board(although too many negative ones)but I’m curious why people who don’t support this club continue to comment.Only reason would be to try to wind us up but makes them look jealous.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 7:24 AM
 
Been on this site observing and posting but don’t recall a Masto posting unless he uses another monacle but as stated it a shame to see regular posters go hope you are well Arizona a particular. Favourite of mine
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 8:37 AM
 
Not saying it’s an anagram are you? I couldn’t stomach that, it’s in the bag.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 8:46 AM
 
Dont recall mastos paddy maybey before my time and I go back to Devon Bob era ( if you remember him
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 10:25 AM
 
Never nice to hear of anyone in poor health so best wishes for some respite however, I’ve been on this site for more than 10 years at least after the official site’s message board closed during the days of ostrich watch, etc. but have never seen you post on here I’m afraid.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 11:13 AM
 
ipitombi, i remember mastos saying that he used the name zambesian, but a brentfool answered his text with a particularly nasty racist comment, which prompted quite a reaction. he therefore changed his tag. he wasnt as frequent a contributor as yourself, but he would always defend the club if he thought it needed to be. i admit i havent posted much myself recently, but on hearing he was stepping aside, i thought its sad that another honest poster is gone, and i wish mastos well.
posted by tom hark (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 11:35 AM
 
mst, i remember mastos a couple of years ago, having a right royal with another much missed poster, kunye. he had suggested selling mitro, and replacing him with rondon and gayle. neither player scored anywhere near the amount he did, were both 30 or over, and it caused quite an exchange when mastos suggested this.it ended in an honorable draw, no doubt mastos had a chuckle. i dont know how you missed his posts, you are always razor sharp.
posted by cottage spy (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 11:53 AM
 
I think that I remember him too. I think he used to have a frequent spat with nasty Nick Bateman.
posted by Old man river (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 12:42 PM
 
I to recall his not to often posts, wondered what the name meant , a nick name or may not english , another one calls it a day, keep well old son , i will still keep sending my brilliant posts long as i can, so keep paying notice and do take in the whole message.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 2:13 PM
 
Likewise, I've never seen a mastos post.
posted by mwk (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 5:11 PM
 
Thanks for that info good health masto
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 8:49 AM
 
Thanks for that info good health masto
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Thursday 31st October 2024, 8:50 AM
 
i can remember that one of many "johns" who post on here once asked him about the name, in a mocking way, comparing it to a certain bleach, and after a full blooded retort, he said it was his first name, so maybe he is greek or cypriot. good luck in the future, mastos.
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He’s done enough to warrant a start. Iwobi can play the 8, he did last season and he can again. Reiss gives us a threat, and Iwobi is both a better ball carrier and betterball winner than lightweight AP. Pereira has had a 9 match trial as an 8. He can’t do the job.
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I agree, have been impressed with his contribution, albeit limited, and deserves a start.
posted by Mortlake - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 10:23 AM
 
Iwobi effectively plays as a number 10 now as Robinson acts as a the winger. That works very well and we should not change it. Could he try Nelson on the right in place of Traore who disappears a lot in games.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 11:17 AM
 
Yep.we score tons of goals from robbos crosses
posted by T.no (Guest) - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 1:01 PM
 
Sorry meant....culloden
posted by T.no (Guest) - Tuesday 29th October 2024, 9:17 PM
 
Do we assume sess is injured ??????
posted by pointless (Guest) - Wednesday 30th October 2024, 2:14 PM
 
 
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Until yesterday I thought he was the Premiership’s best referee I don’t now !
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Oliver has taken over the role as the "Alfa Male" referee, from retired referee Mike Dean. Oliver loves to be the centre of attention, especially if the game is televised. Another pratt is Howard Webb, what a waffler that guy is. The verbal garbage that bloke comes out with to justify crap decisions.
posted by mwk (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 7:05 PM
 
What do you expect from a referee who nearly provoked the 2nd battle if colores in the World cup final.
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Lots of messages about Scott and how badly he treated players at Fulham. Burnley fans now turning on him. Rubbish football strange player selections, lacklustre subs. We know the story so well. Do a where are they now on the team he relegated and they are all excelling including my favourite of that season Super Mario. Lots of posts highlighting the moment that they gave up on Parker. For me it wasn’t his time as a Fulham manager or player but it was when he played for Newcastle against us. In a skirmish with Bullard Parkerthrew his heels backwards and dropped both knees onto Bulards outstretched leg more or less finishing his career. He did Bulards knee again as a WestHam player. I thought I’m wrong, no one would do that to a fellow pro. Then I was watching a Stoke match and they had an ex Hammer who did the feet up trick but failed to Inflict any damage. So my hatred of nosey goes way back. To think we nearly lost Mitro because of him.
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Never liked him, bound to become England manager at sometime in the future and he can bully them.
posted by The Time Is Now - Monday 28th October 2024, 3:55 PM
 
 
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Marco will be in pole position
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Why should he lower himself ?
posted by Mike (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 1:17 PM
 
He’s 40/1
posted by Ivan Toney (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 2:33 PM
 
Bad timing for Marco but a great one for Fulham. A few weeks ago, Marco would be the sort of Man U would look for. Not a big name. Not on a massive salary. Brings the best out of players, and play attractive football. But the last few games Marco lowered his stock with poor results. The one thing that a Man U want!
posted by JohnC (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 2:48 PM
 
Think he would love a bigger challenge he’s definitely capable of managing a top 6 club although he’s substitutions are questionable.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 2:57 PM
 
you are wishing him away. they will want a big name, not necessarily the best coach. thomas frank would fit the bill perfectly, and after he has totally ruined the club, every manu fan will have been driven completely potty, and we can all have a jolly good chortle.
posted by beddford (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 4:30 PM
 
I’ll be surprised if Marco stays beyond he’s contract,Saudi maybe if a big club doesn’t come in for him.Obviously I’d love him to stay,have watched the best football since Tigana
posted by Chief (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 7:37 PM
 
chief, i believe two saudi clubs DID try to get him- but he said no. nothing has happened out there since to suggest its any more appealing.
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There are a few grumblings on the grapevine about Smith Rowe being useless and a bad signing etc. It would be a bad thing if this sort of talk becomes toxic and then we will be in danger of spoiling a perfectly good and talented young player. My only criticism of Smith Rowe is i feel that he would be more beneficial and get more joy if only Marco would play him a bit further up the pitch. We are all intelligent and we know that his mazy run counts as an assist and it helped to create that goal from the excellent Iwobi. We are forced to play a little bit differently now our big guy Mitro is gone but nevertheless whatever striker or target-man put out there, he is expected to score goals. Somehow we know that either Jimenez, Muniz, or Vinicius are not and will not be prolific goal getters. These are difficult times for any strikers and not many from whichever team will break the 20 goal barrier so what can we do about it? This is just my opinion and thoughts and i think Marco Silva has looked at Smith Rowe who is identified as an attacking midfielder who is expected to score goals. The difficult part now for Marco is how to tweak our system to get the best from Smith Rowe and goals. Marco did make a comment that he expects goals from Smith Rowe. Rowe is not the quickest and he doesn't have that injection of pace like a Reise Nelson. Okay' that said, we can still do great works with the lad, all we need to do is sort out our still fragile midfield and maybe the answer is Lukic who we need to come back and still there is a need to tweak and get the best from Smith Rowe and goals. Smith Rowe needs to be more involved and be amongts defenders . Starting a run from deeper will not bring goals unless yo beat everybody around you every time and we know that is impossible. Is Silva found out? Is he out of ideas? I personally don't think so. Our game against a decent Villa could have and would have been so different if Pereira had scored our second goal. It doesn't help our situation if fans are saying that Marco Silva has been found out and no more ideas. Marco is loyal to players everyone and he will stick by who we have currently. If Jimenez and Muniz get ten goals each that will be okay by Marco so long as the contribution and goal ratio from midfield is favourable and that will involve a lot of input from Smith Rowe. Our record 39 million signing is a statement and the intention is Smith Rowe provides assists and goals galore. The problem now is how do we get the best from Smith Rowe? Marco Silva has not quite worked out the puzzle and we all know how a jigsaw puzzle can be frustrating but if we keep working at it, we will complete it. Marco needs a little time and just maybe the help of a January window so have a little faith...
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I am sure he is a good player but so far we have only seen it in patches. He needs to align his class with consistency or people will continue to rubbish him with some justification. Not everybody has the patience you and I obviously have.
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I am still fed up after the two dropped points last night but on a positive note I thought Sander Berge had a very good game . He was abysmal against Villa but last night he looked confident and worked hard both breaking down their attacks and moving the ball forward well .
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Agreed, Berges distribution was good yesterday, he gave the impression that there’s a lot more to come from him
posted by JRD (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 7:19 PM
 
When ??????
posted by pointless (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 11:33 AM
 
To be fair Tete was man of the match but Berge,Iwobi and Diop both had exceptional games
posted by Chief (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 2:59 PM
 
I thought Tete played very well he seemed to be everywhere. That is the problem with that game everybody played well until those stupid subs were made. predetermined I believe.
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So once again we drop points ,yesterday i said this will be a draw ,so got that right and when we scored i knew we wont score again just play pretty football and yep we did just that , then when we reached 90 minutes i thought give it time you know whats coming and bingo it did . We should be at least in fith place, so dont start saying wait till ten games wait till xmas ,have you seen the teams under us,yep done all that im looking at he bottom three each week now. e wont get to europe or even in top half we are just a joke great team on paper but so bland and average on the field , this squad is total clueless and marco dont have a clue what to do after each game now its , `!we played well should have been at least two up cant hold a lead must improve ??? how marco has nothing left so what do we do next?, how long does han watch us go no were with our wage bill ?, who knows.
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Marco saliva exposed since Luis Boa Morte upped sticks and left us. He's not as good as we've been led to believe. Just my opinion, anyone else agree.
posted by Jm (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 4:42 PM
 
BS. I have faith in Marco. You lot are so fickle if you're already giving up on him.
posted by Finlay (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 5:42 PM
 
Can’t deny the fact that he has made several howlers in recent weeks Hadn’t made the connection with Boa, but you could be right. Too much of a coincidence. His insistence in play Pereira is very worrying. We haven’t scored a header this season,nor apparently from a corner, set piece. Pereira might be reasonably accurate( not from the penalty spot) but the ball’s delivered lack pace and penetration, all a bit limp. Little wonder no one can get any pace on the ball. And I think we have some good headers of a football.
posted by Observer (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 8:50 AM
 
The sun does it again , all about dyche and everton and yep we got a couple of lines at bottom of second column, so nice to be loved.However it dont matter if we ever make top spot it will be brushed over as pure luck and last om motd..
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 11:28 AM
 
That Sun report is quite remarkable, with two whole columns report on the match, and we only received the last few lines, and that was about Marco's comments on the game. I'm hoping that this is not a deliberate case of trying to ignoring us after every match, as in this papers reports, it happens week after week.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 11:42 AM
 
Ok it’s upsetting to lose leads so late , But I’ve watched all games this season only one really poor game Villa . Know we’re not ready for Europe . Anyone would think we’re the only club to drop points with late goals, it’s the premiership happens all the time . And bigger clubs than us struggle Spurs lose at palace , Man City at home can only beat bottom Southampton 1-0 Brighton have two goal lead 85m draw 2-2 . We’re a small club with honest player going in the right direction good manager , and owners putting there money in. Been a Fan since 1960 still hurts when we lose, but we’ve never had it better in joy it could come to end anytime . Hodgson left after getting us to final Silva could be snapped up. Even Man Utd have hard times back your team
posted by DMK (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 12:14 PM
 
 
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The manager is going to get himself sacked if he keeps making basic mistake that even us idiot fans notice. We could be in the top 4 if we had not thrown so many points away through bad tactical decisions. Man C never stop attacking what ever the match position. They know what they are doing we seemly do not.
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Someone was saying that after the Man C game and got abuse from some loudmouth who made out knew better.
posted by Lol (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 3:15 PM
 
Man City made defensive substitutions agains us.
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We might complain about dropping silly points, and most of it is justified, but if Palace don't beat Spurs today, there is going to be a dreadful Premier League history, with four clubs playing 32 games between them, without a single win, which is quite unbelievable. Normally clubs like us, are aiming for that 40 point mark, to avoid the drop, but this season, could be a much lower survival points total. I reckon 8 more wins for us, would do nicely, not that we will be involved in the drop zone.
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LTS, why so negative? I am confident we will top the 50 points level once Marco stops making crazy late substitutions. We are better than present position in the league.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 12:37 PM
 
Yes big boy but only if we score the goals to match the effort. Someone was saying that we need to make some sort of shot from every attack. Aston Villa got a deflected goal so we should try wild unexpected shots from time to time, not every time so that we become unpredictable. Although some might say we are anyway but I don’t think so, I think other teams know we will knock it about looking for the perfect chance.
posted by Lol (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 3:24 PM
 
Reckon off top of my head Marco has made bad subs in 4 matches which have cost us 5 points through team disruptions just knew they would get a late equiliser But in hindsight if offered a draw before start would have been happy know Everton was poor but have been in better nick last few games and don’t forget they should have been at least 4 points better off like us squandered leads meanwhile little bees do what they do best somehow manage a result have to fly out of the traps monday don’t let them settle and don’t give away nothing in and around the box
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 9:10 AM
 
Marco is too defensively minded, when we’re ahead or drawing his first thought is always how to hold on to the point(s). Usually disrupts the players and the flow of the game. Usually costs him. One day it’ll cost his job.
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Lineker and Shearer were very unfair on MOD in the summing up of Fulham’s game yesterday, the summing up was all about Everton’s attacking movements, they gave the impression Fulham were just defending, Everton’s equaliser was shown and discussed,, but the brilliant Fulham goal was not shown or mentioned by the panel, I believe this sums up the contempt MOD (Lineker) has for Fulham FC
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Absolutely agree ! I can't wait to see the back of that woke jerk Lineker.There are rumours that the BBC are thinking of replacing him. The sooner the better.
posted by GEZZA (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 9:38 AM
 
Match of day well out of order agree . You get the Everton Manager admitting we were the better side. Then the panel only talking and showing Everton snipings
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 10:47 AM
 
MOTD after a match usually talk about one player in particular, that said, Jiménez, Iwobi and Tete all played much better than Calvert-Lewin. I had a great deal of difficulty deciding who to pick a man of the match, even our big money signing played well for his goal (but not anything decent before or after).
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 27th October 2024, 12:59 PM
 
MOTD. Two dopy old tarts and an ex woman footballer. Don’t watch it.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 2:07 PM
 
i think gabby logan has always been okay, though probably mark chapman would step up. lineker and shearer have had their day, you dont need experts, they dont on the itv show- nor do we have a woman who has never played a game of mens football telling us what it is all about. oops, im in trouble now!.
posted by heres hughie (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 4:39 PM
 
 
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It was a good away team performance and yes' we should have killed it off if only Jimenez, Smith Rowe etc could have more composure in front of goal. I was happy with our effort away from home and we dominated possession and we needed the second goal. I agree up to a point that some of Marco's substitutions were unnecessary and why take our motm Iwobi off? Reise Nelson was effective as per usual and he always is a good sub with his pace and trickery and maybe Reise deserves a start from the get go. The likes of Calvert Lewen and co were off their game and we just could not get that 2nd goal to kill the game off. There was some criticism aimed at Smith Rowe but you guys should remember that his mazy run from deep created that goal from Iwobi who was excellent tonight. My problem with Smith Rowe is i think he should do his stuff further up the pitch and find those pockets of space that can create openings for goals. Runs from deep are well and good if there are lots of them and they would need to be successful. Pitch yourself further up and join in around Jimenez who is a ball of tricks and goals will come. Their goal is typical of a team under the cosh at home and it didn't come as a surprise to me that they got their equalizer from the last grasp of the game. We didn't learn and finish off, its as simple as that! Not much coming from Everton except for their header from their big man Beto who was going to put that ball away any day of the week, thats what subs are all about.
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That was the manager's fault for bringing on hold onto what you have got subs. The managers tactics have lost us 4 points in the last two game. If you are dominating a game continue to do that. Man C were only one up in their game but at no point did they stop attacking. We should follow the tactics of the best team and the Fulham players will believe they are the best team.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 27th October 2024, 8:38 AM
 
If you are dominating a game continue to do that not bring on negative sub that disturbs the team pattern. Marco's tactics have lost us four points in the last two game. Man C would just keep attacking whatever the situation, they obviously know what they are doing.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 27th October 2024, 9:00 AM
 
If attacking has got you leading(thanks to brilliant play by our most expensive player) do not bring on subs to change that. Man C keep on attacking what ever the situation and they know best.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 27th October 2024, 9:04 AM
 
If attacking has got you leading(thanks to brilliant play by our most expensive player) do not bring on subs to change that. Man C keep on attacking what ever the situation and they know best.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 27th October 2024, 9:05 AM
 
A lot of other teams made the same mistake as us. Lots of late winners or equalisers.
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Last week we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and this week unable to score two goals which would have sealed Everton’s fate. Today we dominated and should have been at least a goal up at half-time but had to wait until the 61st minute when Iwobi finished off an excellent move. Unfortunately, we then reverted to type always looking to build attacks but then carelessly giving the ball away. When six minutes was added I feared for the worst and as the seconds ticked away it became a death by a thousand cuts as we waited for the inevitable equaliser. Once more Marco, in my opinion, unbalanced the team when having, already made three substitutions decide to introduce a further two in the second minute of added time. This was a ludicrous decision as they had no time to adjust to the pace of the game and it was pointless to substitute two forwards for similar type of players when we needed to ensure we protected our slender lead. Everton equaliser came from Beto who turned in an Ashley Young’s cutback which wags mainly due to sloppy defending. Marco might take a leaf from Sean Dyche’s book where four of his five substitutions came by the 80th minute which gave them time to adjust. Regrettably, Marco must shoulder the blame for dropping two points and as many on this board know, this has not been the first time when very late substitutions have cost us points. Finally, as I have mentioned before, Tarkowski is a throwback to the 1970’s Leeds defenders, Hunter and Bremner who adopted the attitude that if it moved, kick it. I was not surprised when the manager wisely substituted him after he was shown a yellow card.l
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Lol' just seen your summing up bigboy and mine repplifies some of the same. We are a decent team these days and ours was a decent away effort after two losses to teams expected to beat us. There was a time when we could not get a favourable result from home against the likes of Everton so tonight we showed how far we have come. We only have ourselves to blame for not killing the game off and Marco testifies to that according to his sky interview. I think all will be forgiven if we win our game against our number one enemy next week at home Monday night, nuff said!!!
posted by OWEN - Saturday 26th October 2024, 10:43 PM
 
We should also remember that they scored from an offside position and we were fortunate it was offside. 1-1, accept, and move on now!!!
posted by OWEN - Saturday 26th October 2024, 10:46 PM
 
We missed two chances in the first half where it looked easy to score. They had good chances but our defence kept them out with ease. We lost the match because Marco brought on an extra defender which meant nobody knew who to mark when Everton scored. We had proved during the match that we had a good and well disciplined defence so the extra defender was a stupid mistake..
posted by The Time Is Now - Saturday 26th October 2024, 11:04 PM
 
Owen, please enlighten me what repplifies means as I have not come across the word before.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Sunday 27th October 2024, 10:42 AM
 
Shakespeare invented a lot of new work so Owen is so important on this site he should to be allowed to operate in a wordinventioness way.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 27th October 2024, 1:03 PM
 
Lol' i think i mean replicate Bigboy. Repplifies' might be worthy of an introduction to the Oxford dictionary? The mind boggles sometimes. I once stood under a crab apple tree and one hit my bonce and this is maybe why i come up with these words of genius?
posted by OWEN - Sunday 27th October 2024, 1:14 PM
 
The Time is Now, I am, I have been and will be a staunch supporter of Owen and appreciate his input which is creative and constructive. I am fully aware of Shakespeare’s penchant for creating words which Henry 1V, both parts, being a classic example, excuse the pun. It also in other of his works. Owen, no offence intended and assumed that predicted text may have been responsible.
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The Khans have given Marco a squad capable of reaching a european spot knowing that we have the potential to beat most PL teams. This must be his objective this season because otherwise he would have been given survival additions.Tactically i am no football expert, but I would like to know why his substitutions continuously unbalance the team, specially in the last mins when th eopponent has no option but to charge at you if you if the are losing.
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Because he’s a rubbish tactician.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:11 PM
 
What is wrong with Silva. Putting all these subs in towards the end of the game . Does he never learn after this is a reason game after game we gift goals from winning positions So annoying
posted by Terry (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:15 PM
 
Subs Not so bad against Newcastle but yes you go defensive and you invite the opposition on. Lost too many points to against second rate sides up until now. Man united, West Ham, and now Everton. Should be in the top 6 right now.
posted by Dellers (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:54 PM
 
 
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Now all the talk is about how great Everton were , they were awful and our manager gifted them a point
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We outclassed Everton, but we still didn't win, and this is happening far too often, it's like a last minute disease. Hopefully with the next few games to play will jump up a few places.
posted by Brian from West Sussex (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:01 PM
 
I agree, Everton were awful, but we allowed them to steal 2 points from us with 2 minutes of time added on left, it’s not the first time this has happened it’s allowed to happen far too often, to allow the opposition to share the points after we dominated the game for 94 minutes is frankly unprofessional, why on earth can’t we keep our concentration until the final whistle, watching Everton’s equaliser, the scorer was unmarked four yards out, pathetic.
posted by JRD (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:17 PM
 
Yes, it was so disappointing that we once again threw away another win, but let's be honest, it was only a hair line offside decision, that saved us from going a goal down, out of the blue, and then if we had come away with a draw, we would have been delighted. So let's not be too critical.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:55 PM
 
 
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Every bloody week late goals kill us. Why make all the changes why why why
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Such a good away performance spoilt by Silva
posted by Real Scout (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:30 PM
 
He gave Cuenca his debut with 5 minutes to go , what the hell was he thinking
posted by Brain Doctorv (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:33 PM
 
It totally upset Diop and Bassey who had been superb
posted by Real Scout (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:35 PM
 
Come on you knew it was going to happen.
posted by The Gods (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:36 PM
 
Silva is clueless,every other week the same old sh-t bring on sub and sit back, you could see it was going to happen so why didn't he.
posted by JJ (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:39 PM
 
For God's sake, how many more times are we going to throw away winning situations. West Ham, in the last few seconds, and now Everton, plus, that last minute defeat against Manchester United, and I'm getting fed up with throwing away leads, as we have done recently against both Manchester City and Villa. We should have another 9 points, which we have thrown away up until now. Marco, you have just got to sort this out NOW ! !
posted by THIS HAS GOT TO CHANGE (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:55 PM
 
All managers now seem to think because they are permitted to use 5 subs they should use 5 subs. Use subs if players are playing poorly or are tired and even then swap like for like.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 27th October 2024, 1:08 PM
 
Missed two sitters made to suffer for it
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Silva’ s substitutions and tactics have to be the worst in the league. Absolutely laughable week after week.
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All of us saw that coming. Marco turns into the worst manager in the EPL in stoppage time.
posted by Drago (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:29 PM
 
Definitely total control of a game and we bottled it …the best way to defend is to play in opponents half not defend deeper and deeper….we had control just relax fill out the midfield the last five and jobs done
posted by Real Scout (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:32 PM
 
Must admit further the ball away the better noticed l few Arsenal players had. Cramp yesterday In there box think we need to you the dark art. Sure little bees will on Monday if result is going in there favour hope we do too name of the game now
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Monday 28th October 2024, 10:57 AM
 
more misery from you as usual, realistic. typical bee.
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If Marco is such a good manager how come we keep making the same mistakes again and again
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Fulhamish once again LMFAO
posted by Hooligan - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:28 PM
 
Silva to blame …no need to change two centre backs just get another player in midfield….the three centre backs upset the rhythm at the end
posted by Real Scout (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:29 PM
 
On the fine detail he definitely is not. How many times can you make the same mistake. Endlessly!
posted by Observer (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:30 PM
 
He makes the same error every game , all the supporters can see it happening in slow motion , why is he not be told by his management team .
posted by Brain Doctor (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:32 PM
 
Is anyone surprised that we conceded in the 4th minute of injury time I'm not it's as normal as Fulham missing a penalty.
posted by The Daily Sketch (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:33 PM
 
He has got a loser’s mentality
posted by Real Scout (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:34 PM
 
He's been winging it for awhile and now its starting to come unravelled, time for a change give him till Christmas to sort it out
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ESR you can play rubbish for 89 mins if you can occasionally do that:)
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Move of the w/e ending with a beautiful. Goal such class iwobi passed the ball into the goal motd banging on about an Everton player that done one piece of magic the rest of his game was bang average
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Come on guys this is painful. We should have been 3-0 up. Everton absolutely awful but we are not far behind. Bring on Nelson whose pace and skill will work. Sadly I see this going bad to worst. Everton to get late late goal in extra time as usual. Why are we walking through the game urgency needed so so lazy casual.
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Ryan Kent.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:21 PM
 
Absolutely. Iwobi needs to be our 8. Nelson on the left. And AP on the bench.
posted by Drago (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:28 PM
 
Why doesn’t Nelson start I wonder. Every time he has come on he has impressed.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:15 PM
 
Why doesn’t Nelson start I wonder. Every time he has come on he has impressed.
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No wonder the score is nil nil at half time, Fulham should have scored at least twice but when only a few yards out have put the ball over the bar on at least a couple of times, not good. Everton with little possession are unlucky not to be infront, only a very close off side prevented this, Fulham need more concentration in the opponents penalty area, think think
 
 
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Put Cairney on and we could possibly win
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He is our record signing and he is useless, Everton cannot be as bad in the second half. We have missed so many good chances.
posted by The Time Is Now - Saturday 26th October 2024, 6:33 PM
 
At the moment, Arsenal are laughing all the way to the bank, at the moment Smith Rowe looks anything but a 34 million player
posted by JRD (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 6:35 PM
 
His ball control in is definitely non existent. Rest of his game currently lacking.
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9 players putting in a shift , Smith Rowe looks totally lacking in confidence , what’s happened to him ?
 
 
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Every 50/50 lost, misplayed passes, overdribbling in the box. I’m sorry, this is becoming a joke. The best thing we could do is sell Pereira in January to a relegation-fighting club and put the funds towards a Palinha-class replacement. Take the decision out of Marco’s hands. The stubbornness and favoritism is his one big flaw.
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Yep!
posted by Observer (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 6:08 PM
 
AND our weakest player in the tackle pluswho knows how many directionless headers. Trash as an 8. Not much more productive as a 10.
posted by Drago (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 6:10 PM
 
Totally agree, he’s a very big disappointment, Fulham have had total domination for the first 30 minutes with nothing to show, we do tend to over pass at times, passing for the sake of passing, especially when we’re in the opponents penalty area, more penetrating passes is needed not this pass pass nonsense.
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Pereira has lost the ball each time he has touched it , bloody lightweight
 
 
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Did say we now start looking at the bottom three, as forrest leave us for dead , they have a real striker ! it helps,draw best for to day seeing as marco spent his time in the sun bigging everton up today must make the lads feel good.
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WTF , we are 8 points ahead of Palace who are in 18th place ! Who cares about Forest ?
posted by Bob (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 1:32 PM
 
7 goal thriller.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 1:57 PM
 
Lamb's to the slaughter
posted by Buzzi (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 5:09 PM
 
You should care about everyone. I hope Pereira isn’t playing, even if he did say he’d look his best, whatever that means. Be nice if he turned up for change. A bit of Harrison Reed work ethics needed.
posted by Observer (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 5:10 PM
 
Nice comeback Buzzi.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 5:12 PM
 
Expected team, Marco knows who his best team is and only makes changes when he has to.
posted by The Time Is Now - Saturday 26th October 2024, 5:18 PM
 
How can anyone work out football results. We have played well against both City and Villa and have lost both, so no points. Bournemouth are outplayed by Villa, yet get a 1-1 draw. Brighton win at Newcastle, and go 2-0 up against Wolves, then only draw 2-2. Isn't it about time we showed our teeth, and win, with maybe a bit of luck on our side for a change ?
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 5:24 PM
 
Buzzi is talking about small bentford getting beat at the cottage !
posted by Bee Swatter (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 5:26 PM
 
Buzzi’s pub team scrape a win against 10 man Ipswich in the last minutes of injury time. I bet they’ll be celebrating tonight under the M4 and on Hounslow Heath like they’ve won the FA cup.
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We won though.hahahah!
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So you don’t disagree you will celebrating under the m4 with your meths , sad Cnut !
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I am still a bit peeved about the Villa game and they were not brilliant and we let ourselves down and could have done better in my opinion. Every week now there is talk about Pereira who should and can do better but for one reason or another his performance is average and not good enough for the position he occupies. Some players who secure long term contracts get complacent and Pereira falls into that category, but i am not the manager who can make a decision. Smith Rowe is our record transfer and he needs a big game in this moment and what better opportunity is there like going up to Everton in a late game on Sky for the first time in ages. If we are to get some kind of favourable result up there, we will have to graft work hard take our opportunities and cut out the clown stuff. We do have a recent and decent record against them but still we have to raise our game now they have hit some serious form. We have nicked games against them and i wouldn't say we are a cut above Everton who have been a touch unfortunate in games against us and games lost within 90 minutes this season. I think they have lost 2 games going 2-0 up which tells us that they have no problem scoring goals. Smith Rowe has shown he can score goals and 10 goals around 2022 for Arsenal in so many games is decent but the guy needs to show up in those positions and pockets higher up the pitch in my opinion. Those runs coming from too deep ain't cutting it and it makes him look a bit short on pace, Rowe needs to hold a line further up and then time his runs and then the goals will come. Again i am not the manager and my opinion counts for nothing. We just need to get back to winning ways now we have so called less competition as they say from teams higher above us. Maybe we should give Smith Rowe more of a responsibilty by giving him free-kick and corner duties because he is our star player and Pereira who needs a brake from all these things needs to discover his touch and game once again. Goodness knows' Pereira has all the time in the world and in a comfortable bubble because he is one of Marco's favourite. Maybe Pereira can turn up for the television in a awkward timeslot and make us smile and feel good again? I hope all the best and we play our A game whih is decent when we get it together...
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Pereira quote"I will look my best, just had a new perm and tint"
posted by mwk (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 6:34 AM
 
I'll say it again, we have too many no 10s and the manager is struggling to find a place for them all. AP is out of position at 8 which leaves us soft in the centre especially with Lukic out, and Iwobi is not a natural left winger and often goes missing. That leaves ESR who IS playing in his best position but is woefully off pace. It's conundrum of his own making so Marco needs to find a way to get them all playing together or shake things up a bit.
posted by Ted (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 7:49 AM
 
Pereira needs to be relieved of set piece and penalty duties in particular. Rauls spectacular free kick for Mexico last week tells you all you need to know about who should be in charge of these. Simply outstanding goal and his confidence is building week by week.
posted by Dellers (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 11:19 AM
 
I think we should play Harrison Reed he never lets us down.
posted by The Time Is Now - Saturday 26th October 2024, 12:00 PM
 
Not too many expectations. Nice to note Pereira intents to turn up!
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 12:32 PM
 
I totally agree TTIN regarding Reed. Wish we could display some of the fighting spirit of our little neighbours. Back to lead from 2 down in the first few minutes. Suspect we would have gone to pieces:(
posted by Observer (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 4:26 PM
 
I totally agree TTIN regarding Reed. Wish we could display some of the fighting spirit of our little neighbours. Back to lead from 2 down in the first few minutes. Suspect we would have gone to pieces:(
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 4:29 PM
 
Win and we return to 8th in the table, that cant be bad. Let us dominate a game for a change.
posted by The Time Is Now - Saturday 26th October 2024, 5:24 PM
 
 
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With Nottingham Forest having a comfortable win against Leicester this evening, it means that, even if we win tomorrow, we will still be behind them in the Premier League table. If, perish the thought, we lose, or draw with Everton, we could find ourselves quite low in the table, with even Brentford looking down on us. That's not something worth thinking about, so we could start to be on the slide, after a really good start to the season.
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You are correct, and we do not win away much whoever we play. Everton are rubbish but that does not matter as so are we away from home. Who is less rubbish and lucky wins.
posted by The Time Is Now - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:06 AM
 
I wouldn't say that our away form, is that bad, as we only lost narrowly, to both of the Manchester clubs, and drew at Ipswich when they were on a high, then we won at Forest, and we are the only team to beat them anywhere this season so far. Today is our big chance to show neutral TV viewers just how good we can be, so let's put on a show for all of us this time.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Saturday 26th October 2024, 8:38 AM
 
 
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It wasn't that long ago, that a good number of our fans, were moaning about Lukic, and saying that he should never be near our first team squad, then he settled in, and has been playing well, and now that he is out for about four more weeks, hopefully less, those fickle fans are mourning him missing games. How the worms have turned. The same thing happened to Rual, and now ESR, is getting the treatment. We must get behind our squad, whether we agree with their inclusion or not, as Marco is the master planner, and he, and he alone, knows the weakness and strength of all of our players.
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Good post agree
posted by DMK (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 11:01 AM
 
What’s your problem. When he was being criticised he was indeed not playing very well at all and wasn’t worth his place. Now he has regained his form and is well worth his place, hence a change of heart. All perfectly legitimate, criticise when it’s not right praise when it is. Maybe you’re suggesting one should not change an opinion. Now that would be silly wouldn’t it?
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 11:43 AM
 
I doubt very much any of those players read this board so anyone's views are extremely unlikely to affect them. State your opinion regardless of whether it's supportive or derogatory.
posted by Ted (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 12:01 PM
 
Not to worry, Diop is back in now and they can pick on him. Said all along that Lukic was a great player and just needed to cement his role within the team. The only one that deserves any criticism is Perrera currently, should have gone pre season, not really contributing too much. Perhaps this week will surprise, hope we come away with at least a point Saturday. Anderson going to be a big miss unfortunately, does anyone know if we tried to appeal red card…
posted by Sussexcol (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 12:28 PM
 
Sussexcol, we didn't have to appeal against Andersen's red card as it is only a one match suspension, so it's just like having to miss him for one match due to an injury, so Lukic's injury is more of a concern.
posted by Brian from West Sussex (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 5:10 PM
 
I thought straight red was automatic 3 game ban, and he will miss Brentford and Palace games as well. Hopefully you are right and only misses tomorrow’s match. Can’t wait till Lukic is back as was looking key player.
posted by Sussexcol (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 8:12 PM
 
One word, Ryan Kent.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 8:44 PM
 
I see joey essex in kent the other day
posted by Voice of reason (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 9:23 PM
 
Wasn't with Brian from Sussex was he?
posted by Paddy O'Doors (Guest) - Friday 25th October 2024, 10:25 PM
 
A straight red is a one match batch unless it is violent behaviour. A gentle push is not violent behaviour.
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We so rarely win at Goddison Park I am not optimistic about our chances, but we shall see. When we are good we are very good when we are poor we are very poor.
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We've won there on our last 4 visits !
posted by Jim (Guest) - Thursday 24th October 2024, 2:50 PM
 
You have cheered me up no end.
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Watching the teams around us picking up points its time to watch the teams below us now and there results, forrest now past us as bournmouth have, Coopers mob next ,really grating that will be. Everton any time now.You know what coming ,no goals cant hold a lead still , but lets wait till xmas as we always say on here .
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Bish, stop worrying about positions in the Premier League table after just 8 games, the time to start worrying will be if we are in the bottom 4 in April with a few games to play. You know and I know, that will not be happening, as we are more likely to be fighting for points to finish in the top 6 or7, or in the worse situation, still fighting for a top 10 spot. At this time of the season, in all four divisions, table places change, on a match by match basis, which adds to the excitement of each game. Had we won on Saturday, as we should have done, we would be sitting in 8th place instead of 9th(Bournemouth by the way, are one place below us)so Bish just enjoy our season, as we are NOT going to be involved in any relegation scrap, and in my opinion 8th, or even 7th should be our aim, and failing that a top 10 place. I know that it doesn't always work, but after 10 matches played teams can normally see what type of season they are going to have. Palace incidentally after last nights result, created Premier League history, by being one of four clubs not to have won a match after 8 games played. The bottom of the table, will be as tight as the top from now on.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd October 2024, 2:05 PM
 
Craven, I generally agree with your posting, but I must point out that we are now 10th in the table, not 9th. Not that, as you say, it really matters at present.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd October 2024, 2:22 PM
 
so expect i will keep taking the tablets and wait,if you see a bloke holding up a card in the riverside! saying wait till xmas its me .ps did you see the jags bloke catching a 97 yard throw for a touch down and with his back to the ball amazing cant wait to see traore try it , after that it lost me, still the boss saw 88 thousand see his team win.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd October 2024, 2:37 PM
 
We are doing alright. We have a good team and a good squad. We lost a bit of balance with Lukic out but Marco will find the right formula very quickly! Let's enjoy it and accept we will have occasionally blip! the expectation and hype after the Man City was just a bit too much and rather gave the team confidence, it did the opposite! Europe will be a stretch but we will be in the top half- for sure!
posted by JohnC (Guest) - Tuesday 22nd October 2024, 3:03 PM
 
Villa is a top team and we gave them a good game. do not worry yet. I would really worry if we lost to Brentford as that would mean we cannot beat anyone.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 22nd October 2024, 10:17 PM
 
Villa is a top team the problem was they didn’t have to be or play well to beat us, they were average on the day our mistakes cost us the game. Apart from this game we’ve been good this season. But we must stop talking about top ten and take every game as it comes, as for Europe it would be to early till we’re ready we’ve larger squad. Were moving in right direction but Villa game was poor must cut our errors out.
posted by DMK (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd October 2024, 7:44 AM
 
DMK, you are so right. Thinking about finishing high enough in the table to qualify for Europe, would be far too early for us, with a limited squad, and just look at what's happening to West Ham this season. Taking it game by game, is very good advice. A safe place in the table, and hopefully a decent FA cup run, would be ideal for now, so let's not try to get ahead of ourselves.
posted by Brian from West Sussex (Guest) - Wednesday 23rd October 2024, 10:43 AM
 
Great minds think a like Brian would love a cup run
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i listened to the commentary of bbc london, who covered saturdays game, and we were treated to three minutes of banile nattering about the spurs game, and when fulham were awarded that ill-fated spotkick, the commentator , emma jones, let out a huge "WAAH" therefore giving you no idea whether pereira had stylishly converted his kick, or did what he did, and made a total pigs banquet of it. the fact is that when you have two female commentators together, it always happens. its like a carry over from the night before, i know what i am going to be accused of, but those who did listen would tell you how it was. they have their show on sundays-that should be enough.
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What is it the media seem to hate about us?
posted by blgboy4650 - Monday 21st October 2024, 2:47 PM
 
Funny that, there was loads about us in the sun !
posted by Jim (Guest) - Monday 21st October 2024, 7:27 PM
 
I thought all we needed was radio Blah Blah.
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Besides the silly penalty miss and unlucky goals, the main problem was that we were not able to press their midfield. Berge did not pick up the nearest midfielder in front of him. He was sitting back in front of Bassey without choosing a man. Bassey was therefore confused which man to take himself. This meant their no 27 (Rogers) could roam around freely. What also did not help was Traore not tracking back and leaving Tete one v 2 a few times. Hopefully Silva will sort this out. And yes on the ball Berge looked half a second of the pace with his passing which did not help us to stay in control in possession.
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Villa knew that Traore was defensive weakness and boy they exploited it. At times you have to realise that an opposing manager has outthought you and your own manager has made mistakes (letting that useless Brazilian take a penalty).
posted by The Time Is Now - Monday 21st October 2024, 7:42 AM
 
There was actually applause in the Hammersmith end when Pereira was substituted - but I don’t think it was enthusiastic applause for his performance. For some time now I’ve wondered how he keeps his place. Villa’s all round ability to pass and keep the ball was better than ours. Too many Fulham moves broke down with poor passing and poor final ball into the box. Our goalkeeper played the best pass of the game to the striker!
posted by peterjeremy - Monday 21st October 2024, 11:02 AM
 
It proves that all this tippy tappy passing in your own penalty area is less effective especially against a team like Villa and to mix it up could pay dividends, which it did. Ironic cheers from the crowd when Pereira got the hook. Perhaps Silva should listen to the fans discontentment voiced during the game, for him to act more quickly for the sake of the team and Pereira.
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Now that’s how you take a penalty!!!
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That must be bordering on one of the worst penalties I have ever seen, only rivaled by Lookman's against West Ham. Periera must never be allowed to take another one, his time is up now
posted by LTS (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 9:06 PM
 
As like in hindsight, its easy to question your decision. All missed penalties look bad afterwards!
posted by JohnC (Guest) - Monday 21st October 2024, 8:35 AM
 
"When to take a penalty you wait for the goalkeeper to dive then kick it the way the keeper has gone." What strange manual of penalty taking you must get in Brazil.
posted by The Time Is Now - Monday 21st October 2024, 1:28 PM
 
To be honest John I think there were very few who were truly suprised when Pereira missed. Virtually everyone, except Marco and maybe a one or two others , believe Jimenez should be our penalty taker. I wouldn’t let Pereira near another. Like many I don’t even believe he’s worth his place in the team. Think Marco has developed brain freeze. Some seriously poor decisions being made in recent games.
posted by Observer (Guest) - Monday 21st October 2024, 3:06 PM
 
Jimenez a great pen taker. Has been all his career record is taken 38 scored 36 if on field should take them
posted by DMK (Guest) - Monday 21st October 2024, 3:16 PM
 
In a small way, I'm quite pleased that Piriera did take, and miss that penalty, although we all know it cost us the game. Just think, if Rual had taken it, and missed, Marco would never forgiven him,and he would have gone ballistic. However, now that Piriera did take it, and just rolled it to the keeper, that should now be a definite end, to his penalty taking days.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Monday 21st October 2024, 8:45 PM
 
 
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In today’s Liverpool v Chelsea match Tosin hauled Jota back in the same manner and more or less the same position as Andersen’s offence yesterday, but only received a yellow card, with no VAR intervention. Are we ever going to get consistency from referees, or is it one rule for the ‘big’ clubs and another for the Fulhams of this world?
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The difference is that with Tosin's offence there are other players around who could reach the ball and stop the attack.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 20th October 2024, 5:44 PM
 
So the grass is always greener on the other side. Tosin was hauled off after 53 minutes, and the player a lot of us wanted to sign (not me), Andre, only lasted 46 minutes for Wolves, so we dodged the bullet there then.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 6:23 PM
 
Agree with Horsham white . Traore was pushed in back not even free kick VAR are said only small contact Anderson’s was less and outside box
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If you ever wondered who came up with the term farce??? look no further than craven cottage , first we have marco slagging raul for taking a penalty ,saying is munez job , but raul scored,two weeks later we have another rumpus with no munez on pitch but raul wants it ,but no, andraios want it and so another rumpus , were was marco???.All this then we get a massive deflection goal, then andersen gets all silly and bingo we lose him for three weeks at a hundred grand a week ,step up duiop!!!!! and its his turn more farce as in it goes again anther own goal on top of this the boss has official opening last week of the stand but only for richard osman or so it seems, the rest of us will be allowed in in december ,for the pleasure of 3 grand a pop, yep farce started right here in sw6.PS watch the Jags lose again to day .coyw forever.
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Yes,' not a good start back from the Internationals bishop, Let's just hope we can put all this barmy fiasco behind us and get back to some normality up at Everton this coming week. We have to get better because the Toffees are starting to hit form and i sincerely doubt we will come away from there with anything if we don't put in the hard work and cut out the nonsense. Lately, when we have played them i think we have been having lucky breaks and Sean Dyche will have noted that...
posted by OWEN - Sunday 20th October 2024, 1:41 PM
 
Thought the new stand was quite well populated yesterday just shows there’s people prepared to pay
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 7:40 PM
 
All the sold areas are full. When the stand was first opened the 1,000 tickets offered sold in days. Fulham & Hammersmith residents are some of the richest in the Country.
posted by The Time Is Now - Monday 21st October 2024, 1:32 PM
 
The Ancient Greek playwright Aristophanes wrote his comedies in the 5th century BC. Aristophanes' plays included larger-than-life characters, ridiculous situations, and lots of vulgar humour.
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Anybody notice the amount of yanks at the games yesterday? Must of bought a double tickets for the jaguar’s game today
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Makes good business sense
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 7:44 PM
 
They were probably directors or assistant directors of Mr Khan's USA business. He is a generous.
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I think Marco has to change the penalty taker I know anyone can miss a penalty but pereira doesn’t fill you with any confidence and Raul does come on Marco I think you may have to rethink this one
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That must be bordering on one of the worst penalties I have ever seen, only rivaled by Lookman's against West Ham. Periera must never be allowed to take another one, his time is up now
posted by LTS (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 10:48 AM
 
Marco to take the blame and now left with a bit of a mess on penalties! If Marco didn’t make a fuss in public on what happened a few weeks ago, there might have been less pressure on Andrea yesterday. If he didn’t make the issue public, it may have been ok to let Raul take the pen yesterday. Now it has become an issue, next time we get a pen he will have a massive dilemma! We didn’t need to get ourselves into this situation if Marco played down the issue of Raul taking the ball away Periera.
posted by JohnC (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 11:33 AM
 
Jimenez in his career has taken 38 pens and scored 36 he’s an expert in form at moment , best penalty taker we’ve had for along time if he’s on pitch has to take them . Like silva but big mistake
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Similar storyline, no balance.. Terrible.
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Don’t need the Mail to tell me
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 3:00 PM
 
I agree.. What rubbish newspaper along with most others..
posted by Rob Clark (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 5:39 PM
 
I agree.. What rubbish newspaper along with most others..
posted by Rob Clark (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 5:39 PM
 
Got the best medical pages though also the sports columns on the back pages quiet informative find it a good read on Sundays
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Firstly i want to say, the manager is not always right and one obvious correction he could have made in the second half was to address and snuff out the constant danger and barrage of attacks coming from the near post corners, how could he not fixed that one? They constantly put over crisp near post corners in the hope that Watkins latched onto them corner after corner and it got boring. Have you heard the comment' 'Am i Boring you?' I think we got bored and complacent today at covering set pieces and there needs to be more clarification on who picks up who and stick to it. Watkins should never had gotten free of his marker for a free header like that, we were mugged of and we played like mugs! What do we say about Pereira playing deeper in the position? His he a specialist or something? Playing inside a deeper role is important and it requires intelligence which the flashy Pereira doesn't have too much of these days. Pereira gets a lot of the ball but he is wasteful and his balls out are not good enough and we constantly give it away trying to pass it upfield. We have a few extra bodies in competition from the bench but what good is that if you know the likes of Pereira who's game has digressed, cherry-picked for the best positions he cannot cope with and what was that in a penalty? The Villa Goalkeeper Martinez is way too smart for most experienced takers and the inexperienced Pereira looked like a boy in an arena. The more street-wise Jimenez should be the penalty taker and we can see the frustration on Jimenez and i feel for him. A big mistake Marco Silva made was a few weeks ago was to criticize Jimenez for taking a winning penalty which now we know was a big mistake. I say a big mistake unless the over-rated and feeling entitled Pereira can come back with a performance worthy of a big star next week, somehow i doubt it. We should be taking advantage of teams like Villa who came to our back yard with a flat performance just like Arsenal going up to Bournemouth thinking they only have to turn up to win. Playing in Europe is a big thing and it also is a luxury and it makes you a little tired a few games after. Bournemouth did their homework, we did not. I get the feeling that the likes of Pereira only needs to turn up every week and he is in and that sends the wrong message to all those on the bench. On the bench by the way was Reise Nelson who Arsenal could have held onto and definitely subbed on against Bournemouth. Whats the point of having competition on our bench when we don't use it properly? Villa don't look that special and we could have got at them if only for the missed penalty and our poor defending and equally poor distribution using the out ball. Marco still doesn't deserve criticism? Do me a favour!!!!!!
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When Raul put us in front we were totally dominating. We were attacking with pace ans they couldn't seem to cope. The moments that changed the game for me was their first goal talk about lucky a weak shot that gets deflected in. After that we lost a little momentum but even so the penalty would have seen u regain it. Jiminez should have taken it Pereira never looked confident and it was a really poor penalty. Even so Jiminez had two great chances to put us ahead before half time. I thought that Smith Rowe Bergh and Pereira were having poor games. Probably we could have made changes a little earlier. Giving away a set piece goal was poor, but that was compounded by the sending off. Which again was soft in my opinion. The third goal again lucky with another own goal. I thought once the changes were made we did quiet well with ten men. Jiminez was very good today as was Robinson who never stopped running. It was a game that could have gone either way. It was a real shame that 3 players underperformed.
posted by Jazz (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 9:56 PM
 
I was at the game, and I thought that we were a little disappointing, once Piera missed that penalty, one that he should never have been allowed to take. I know that Marco has nominated him as our penalty taker, but on this occasion, with his tail up, and playing well, my MOTM, Rual should have put us ahead from the spot, and from 2-0 there would have been no way back for Villa. What happened, and I was looking at, Tete's face, thinking, what the hell has he done. I felt let down, and I felt that we lost it from that moment on. We will now miss Andersen for three games which is a big blow, but luckily, and I know there are no easy games in this Premier League, just ask Arsenal, but over those next three games, they aren't exactly the hardest that we will face, and both Everton away, Wolves at home, and then Palace away, we should be able to pull a few points back, and move on. I must admit today ESR, was below his normal standards.
posted by Baz (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 9:59 PM
 
Todays game started well for Fulham, for the first few minutes we moved the ball well and scored a good goal to lead , then the bad habits crept in, when in possession giving it back, I lost count how many times Villa were given the ball back,very poor, at the very least make the opposition work to win the ball, today Villa were given the ball far too often. Our two new signings, Berge and Smith Rowe were poor, so far Smith Rowe has been disappointing, not looking worth 34 million, one can only hope. The useless Diop was sent on to replace Andersen and within minutes scored an own goal, get rid, Today we learned that Fulham need more improvement to be able to challenge the top teams,
posted by JRD (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 10:00 PM
 
Agree with all that said but i must ask the question, how does a team like Villa put in the same first-corner post balls and get away with playing the same system without us addressing it? I guess they knew that sooner or later that Ollie would latch onto one and he did. It was all a bit repetitive but hey' why change a system if it ain't broke...
posted by OWEN - Saturday 19th October 2024, 10:11 PM
 
How come some person called Baz, has repeated my postings with his Monica on. This board gets worse.
posted by Brian from West Sussex (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 11:32 PM
 
agree with most comments but let’s not be unfair to Pereira. He’s normal and he’s best position is where smith Rowe plays. In that position he was one of our best players last season and many big clubs wanted him. He’s playing a much deeper role because we lost Palhinha. Marco put him there because he works very hard. It’s marco decision he should take the penalties. So let’s not blame him and I find it uncomfortable the number of fans criticise him so much. Funny they are also the fans who like to take the micky out of Robinson (again, he’s one of our best players this season so far). Let’s support Andrea Periera because he is geninuely a good player.
posted by Johnc (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 11:36 PM
 
That must be bordering on one of the worst penalties I have ever seen, only rivaled by Lookman's against West Ham. Periera must never be allowed to take another one, his time is up now.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 11:39 PM
 
That must be bordering on one of the worst penalties I have ever seen, only rivaled by Lookman's against West Ham. Periera must never be allowed to take another one, his time is up now.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 11:39 PM
 
How can Pereira be our penalty taker, Marco has incredible blind sport about the Brazilian who could not hit a barn door. We have a Mexican who has shown he is a good finisher and penalty taker. Villa found a good counter to the danger of Traore by attacking down his wing where they found lots of space as Traore does not defend. We were out tacticisized by Villa, but if we had scored that penalty the game would have been different and we could have won. Marco should look at the Brazilian he does not score very often, he does not create goals very often, he cannot score penalties, Why is he in the team. Another one who flatters to deceive is Smith Rowe who mainly passes sideways or gives the ball away.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 20th October 2024, 12:15 AM
 
Sometimes i think Pereira doesn't know if he is Brazilian or Belgian just like his position and know-how on the pitch is ropey at the moment. Lookman and rabona penalty was a huge mistake which we never forgave but he more than made up for that period by showing how good he really is for Atalanta by scoring a hat trick and winning the Europa which most will never achieve. We don't have the calibre of a Lookman who can go forward and unlock a defence and potentially score goals. Sad i think and we should have persevered with him but thats life! We are stuck with a few too many players in their comfort zones on good contracts that go through the motions and that is not good enough for Fulham and Pereira is in that category sad to say, not good enough from him. Smith Rowe for all his 35 million and not much pace needs to step up on what he has done so far. I just hope we are not stuck in the dreaded 100 million plus team of the past with Slavisa which proved a damp squid. I think i am over the top and this was one game that was a stinker so i take all that back...
posted by OWEN - Sunday 20th October 2024, 12:59 AM
 
Passing round the back ok but when Bassey is the last person to receive not a good choice. His distribution not great he made a couplevofvcovk ups
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Typical,1 slightly off performance and the idiots are back! Marco should’ve done this and that,face it Villa are a top 4 side and apart from the penalty save(not miss) and red card we weren’t far behind a very good side.
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You clearly were not at the game
posted by Sue Widgr (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 8:17 PM
 
I was at the game, and I thought that we were a little disappointing, once Piera missed that penalty, one that he should never have been allowed to take. I know that Marco has nominated him as our penalty taker, but on this occasion, with his tail up, and playing well, my MOTM, Rual should have put us ahead from the spot, and from 2-0 there would have been no way back for Villa. What happened, and I was looking at, Tete's face, thinking, what the hell has he done. I felt let down, and I felt that we lost it from that moment on. We will now miss Andersen for three games which is a big blow, but luckily, and I know there are no easy games in this Premier League, just ask Arsenal, but over those next three games, they aren't exactly the hardest that we will face, and both Everton away, Wolves at home, and then Palace away, we should be able to pull a few points back, and move on. I must admit today ESR, was below his normal standards.
posted by Brian from West Sussex (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 8:41 PM
 
I clearly was,up until the penalty not much between the 2 teams.We need to realise that it’s difficult to exceed for every match.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 9:13 PM
 
Chief, even idiots are entitled to a opinion, if you are offended by their opinion hard luck
posted by JRD (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 9:28 PM
 
We had no quality in crucial areas of the pitch today which is very disappointing, Parreira penalty was a total disgrace and he should be fined by the club.
posted by Ready Freddy (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 9:41 PM
 
Calm down Chief.It was a very disappointing game today and folks are just letting off steam.It's what most football fans do.Calling your fellow Fulham fans '' idiots '' is bang out of order.
posted by GEZZA (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 9:45 PM
 
All supporters pay good money to follow their chosen team. They are entitled to their opinion and to express it on a site design for just that purpose. It is offensive and very boring when people come on here and criticise posters for stating an accurate opinion. Many aspects of our performance today were pathetic, the manager’s decision making was flawed. That’s it! All bar one seem to be of that view. As regards to ‘idiots’ I think I know who that is.
posted by Mortlake - Sunday 20th October 2024, 3:10 AM
 
Did you not notice how easy it was for Villa to run through our defence and miss, better finishing we could have been hammered. The Villa manager had identified all our weaknesses very well.
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 20th October 2024, 7:50 AM
 
Maybe it is a bit strong and I don’t mean to offend anyone but criticising the manager when so far he’s been exceptional and if he’s nominated a penalty taker you can’t argue,how many did Mitro miss? He still carried on taking them.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 9:00 AM
 
Like all of us, I was so disappointed with both yesterdays defeat, and the way that we played, at times, although until that penalty miss, we were well on top, but all clubs miss penalties, over the course of the season, but we will learn from that, and Marco will no doubt change that for the next one ? Hopefully. We usually lose about 5 home games over the season, and only the likes of Man City and Arsenal, don't suffer that fate. How many could have imagined Liverpool losing at home to Notts Forest, and Newcastle losing at home to Brighton, in both cases the losers having the majority of play. In our case however, we were playing a top class CL side, in the top 4, and we are not that good and consistent just yet, but have patience, as that will come along in time, but probably not this season, but we will still enjoy a good one, with a top ten finish in mind. This folks, is one of the hardest leagues in the world, to win games, and fans of Southampton, Ipswich Wolves, and Palace, who are yet to register a win can witness that.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Sunday 20th October 2024, 10:57 AM
 
Point taken Chief. I was a bit strong in my reaction too, so apologies, but whilst acknowledging Marco’s record I think it’s only right to highlight it when we think he’s got it wrong. Literally every post I read on the subject of Pereira over the past month have been questioning his current contribution and inclusion in the team, so I’m not feeling out on a limb with my comments. The fact that he’s the designated penalty taker when we have such a competent alternative beggars belief. Doubtless he will come good….sometime, but continuing with this policy is beginning to look like stubbornness in the face of common sense.
posted by Mortlake - Sunday 20th October 2024, 12:02 PM
 
Sort of agree like city if we had taken gilt edged chances they would have needed at least six to beat us as for Saturday One up fluke equaliser Rau missed another chance by a whisker pen missed which would have changed game Anderson’s dismissal thought there second goal was avoidable. Third goal unfortunate personally I would leave our speed nerchant on a bit longer constant threat on the ball if erratic summing up overaull sort of game we had to get a way for a result next home game we will be playing a team with av certain style of play we need to be on the front foot and don’t let them settle otherwise they will score from a set piece And will fight tooth and nail to keep their lead
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Monday 21st October 2024, 10:55 AM
 
Thought it might be one
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Monday 21st October 2024, 10:57 AM
 
 
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Berge looks awful …..Perreira and Smith Rowe can’t play together
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Marco trying to play Parreira and S-R in the same midfield is not getting the best from them
posted by Ready Freddy (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 9:39 PM
 
 
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Saturday 19th October 2024, 7:29 PM



 
Leno 6 Tetris 7 Anderson 7 Bassy7 Robinson7 Berg 5 Pereira 4 Smith Rowe5 Traore 5 Jimenez8 Iwobie 7
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Pereira 0 What hold has he over Silva
posted by Sue Widge (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 8:02 PM
 
Agree Sue
posted by Ready Freddy (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 9:37 PM
 
 
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Saturday 19th October 2024, 6:59 PM



 
We were poor today Villa were not good given on a plate ,lucky deflection for first goal. Have a great penalty taker in Jimenez, Pereira takes it what you doing Silva. Went to sleep for corner and a of. Red card what are the rules one week it’s not a pen next week it is.But we were poor can’t blame back four midfield was poor villa not good easy 3 points. Stop talking about Europe we’re not ready
 
 
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Marco made some poor decisions today, one of them being making Pereira the designated penalty taker. Jiminez is a natural penalty taker. Why Pereira. He also should have taken Berge off at half time and replaced him with Harrison Reed. He left it too late to bring on Tom. As for Smith-Rowe where was he? His head wasn’t in the game.
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Why is Pereira playing, let alone taking penelties. Silva OUT
posted by Sue Widgr (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 8:05 PM
 
 
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Saturday 19th October 2024, 5:31 PM



 
Todays game started well for Fulham, for the first few minutes we moved the ball well and scored a good goal to lead , then the bad habits crept in, when in possession giving it back, I lost count how many times Villa were given the ball back,very poor, at the very least make the opposition work to win the ball, today Villa were given the ball far too often. Our two new signings, Berge and Smith Rowe were poor, so far Smith Rowe has been disappointing, not looking worth 34 million, one can only hope. The useless Diop was sent on to replace Andersen and within minutes scored an own goal, get rid, Today we learned that Fulham need more improvement to be able to challenge the top teams,
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Villa are a very good team. Game changed after we missed the pen. Berge was too slow and unable to pass the ball out. Smith rowe looked disinterested and Traore cannot get into the game. We missed Lukic but Raul was amazing and if he had taken the pen, the game and result could have been very different. Bad day in the office!!
posted by JohnC (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 6:08 PM
 
Agreed
posted by JRD (Guest) - Saturday 19th October 2024, 6:14 PM
 

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