I say bring Slav back. He knows how to get the best from Mitro, TC, etc. It will be a breath of fresh air, the players will feel unshackled, and we all will enjoy the style again. A player like Carvahlo will be like Sess 2.0 - shining in Slav’s attacking system. Let’s face it, we had nowhere near as much talent two seasons ago at the back as Scottie had this year. Now, with Robinson, Tete, Tosin, Rodak … Slav will be better equipped to succeed. We lost Targett and Fredricks that year after Promotion - a huge factor in relegation. I’d much rather have Slav than Cooper, Big Sam, or anyone else. Roy would be a perfect balancing force as a consultant.
posted by Drago (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 10:57 PM Too late' Slavisa is a Sheff Utd boy now...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 11:43 PM

zzzz. I am a sleep.
posted by Chas (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 8:37 PM

MT I think I probably disagree with you. Not sure what the problem is. Of cos there always going to be a few idiots coming on board here who have no interest in Fulham. I can actually name a few Brentford fans who come on here whenever they win! But on the whole, I think 90% of the people have an interest in Fulham. The difference maybe the sort of fans you want to see. The reality is with social media (which by the way I dislike and don’t use) has not helped as it has given people a platform to say what they like and not like. This site is no difference. Many more fans are much more critical of the club and some dislike the owners so much they threatened to give up their season tickets. Some ready to shoot the manager as soon as he makes a mistake. We even had someone criticising cavalho missing a half chance against Man U in his first full game. I respect their decisions or opinions about the club so long is not motivated by racism or any form of discrimination. Otherwise I don’t read them if don’t like to. Or I argue if I disagree. . So I am not sure what is the problem? Maybe you’d prefer an exclusive little club with just your old mates. Sadly, this is a forum open to all Fulham fans.. at least that’s what I thought! posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:42 PM
posted by MT - Thursday 17th June 2021, 3:36 PM Left wingers trying to close GB News down because they disagree with its politics.. I thought we lived in a Democracy! You Comprehend?!
posted by Alf Tingle (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 3:46 PM MT... All these postings are one big wind up from a seasoned Ffc fan! Lighten Up!
posted by Cottage Pie (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:12 PM You know that because?
posted by MT - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:14 PM MT. Well, they are certainly intended to wind us up and may well be from only one or two people. Couldn't say about the seasoned FFC fan bit. Generally, I would say I agree with you on this matter. However, although registration would get rid of the stupid multiple names, it would not solve the problem totally as you still have the issue of online anonymity making people say things they wouldn't face to face. You and I have disagreed on many things and agreed on others. I even managed to find common ground with Ted recently on the issue of horse racing but generally my opinion of him, and I image his of me, is not publishable. I think you just have to accept that the only thing we all have in common is Fulham and there will always be some nasty disagreements.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:35 PM I've just stated the bleeding obvious!!
posted by 55 Years at the Cottage... (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:37 PM It doesn't matter, the point is I am a fat man.
posted by MT (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:48 PM Well said boardsword , we have very different opinions on life etc but we are all Fulham fans !
posted by Ted (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:25 PM Thanks Ted
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:29 PM I am slightly lost here. Somehow it seems my response have tickled a few hair. Is there an insinuation that I am a ‘Woke’? Read my post please. I am completely the opposite in arguing people can express their opinions as much as they want as long it is not illegal or offensive. I am not sure is there an insinuation I am not a Fulham fc Fan? I watched 95% of all home games in the last 15 seasons or so and went to many, and watched every one (as boring and frustrating as some games got) on TV last season. I can probably name every player played more than 2 or 3 games in this period. I am not a fan? Lastly, apologise if my reference or old mates upset someone, honestly apart from disagreeing with a post and an opinion, what I have said that is so rude and deserved to have the post deleted. Am I really the woke! I too think it is time give up on this forum!
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 7:08 PM John. It was suggested that the multiple names were one "seasoned FFC" fan. No one suggested that it was you. I can't see any reason why your post would be deleted but you are not alone in that. I and others have also had innocent posts deleted.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 8:31 PM

You can bet they wouldn't support BLM!
posted by Old Jamaca (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 2:39 PM

Waitrose renames kaffir lime leaves over apartheid link!!
posted by Geoff Watcher (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 1:38 PM Sad to say it but this Woke nonsense is here to stay !
posted by JW (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 1:40 PM Isn't BLACKMAIL a racist word?
posted by Ben Crapps (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 1:48 PM Cider company boycott GB News... Do you have to be left wing to drink it?
posted by Dr Swede (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 2:04 PM Can you not be a racist if you are a children's author then? Ted and So Predictable, you may now begin frothing at the mouth if you wish.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:08 PM Clearly those complaining have never read any Enid Blyton books or are inherently racist themselves...probably both!
posted by MT - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:13 PM More pompous Broadsword!
posted by Boresword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:14 PM If you say so Ted.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:52 PM Agree what MT said in an earlier post about the CRAP posted on this site, so until real football related postings appear I am bowing out.
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 5:16 PM No Broadsword I won't be frothing at the mouth your so predictable response is only to be expected, I find you and your ilk are best to be avoided and ignored, and then we are not drawn into your woke world oh sorry it's a "new " word apparently. I see you've managed to get even more people to jump on your bandwagon. have a walk around the block and see if you can get round without seeing sexism racism and homophobia on your way, a hard shout I know but try it anyway.
posted by So Predictable (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:14 PM Broadsword, why the comment re me ?
posted by Ted (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:27 PM Ted. The poster used a variation of my username which you do. If it was not you I apologise.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:31 PM So Predictable. Seems to be a bit of frothing in your reply. If you bothered to actually read my post you will see that I didn't accuse anyone of racism.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:34 PM No probs , cheers .
posted by Ted (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:34 PM Actually ‘woke ‘ isn’t really a new word ..it’s a version of ‘wide awake ‘ which Abraham Lincoln used in the 1860’s …just saying …it feels like somethings ,or some people never change !!!…..
posted by Markrightback (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:40 PM You are so touchy Broadsword I was merely generalising.
posted by So Predictable (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 7:43 PM

Do you think any of them are in the frame to replace Parker?
posted by Keetch54 - Thursday 17th June 2021, 11:00 AM More like Parker replacing one of them LOL. Hancock makes Parker look positively dynamic :0)))
posted by MT - Thursday 17th June 2021, 11:26 AM All of them, country is led by selfish, incompetent idiots. Politicians are absolutely hopeless.
posted by Voice of Reason (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 11:42 AM You forgot the two greatest liars of our time Nichola Sturgeon and Tony Bliar. Hold on who has told the truth?
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 11:49 AM The khans have lied ever since they bought the club.
posted by JJ (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 12:27 PM Nobody has lied more than Bodger!
posted by Ted (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 3:24 PM Tony R you have a point of view but not one I agree with. Tony Blair was probably the best Prime Minister in my lifetime and Nicola Sturgeon is so much better than Johnston.
posted by Ken44 (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 7:47 PM ken44 are you for real, blair flooded the country with migrants so he could get re-elected and he took us to war which we all know was a lie. YOU NEED TO BE LOCKED UP WITH BLAIR.
posted by JJ (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 8:04 PM

I like Parker' but if there is someone out there with more experience? Sacking managers work for our rich neighbors down the road and we only need to be lucky just this once. My only reservations about Parker is our cutting edge and scoring goals. If Scott Parker stays, and we hit the ground running? I will be happy as larry if we continue in the same vein...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 11:08 AM Critical time, we need to get this resolved quickly only seven weeks until the new season starts.
posted by Voice of Reason (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 11:44 AM

Ha ha, a bit like Boris the other night saying "company" instead of country and "29th" instead of "19th". Freudian slips perhaps lol?
posted by MT - Thursday 17th June 2021, 10:44 AM

Remember England loosing to Iceland and the Welsh boys laughing!
posted by Old Peg (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 5:17 AM Were you cheering on Wales?
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:10 AM As much as the Welsh will be cheering on England!
posted by Broadside. (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:52 AM English or Welsh Lamb?
posted by Bob Long. (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 6:58 AM Half Welsh, Half English Lamb...
posted by Young Llewellyn. (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 7:08 AM Welsh players cheering on the English!!
posted by Davy Boy. (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 7:12 AM Give me the Red shirt every time...
posted by Ginger (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 7:33 AM Wales , where men are men and sheep are nervous!
posted by Farmer Giles (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 7:49 AM Best thing to come out of Wales ? The M4 motorway !
posted by St George (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 7:56 AM I always leave when the Welsh start singing!
posted by Roger Wax (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 8:32 AM Sheep droppings up in the hillsides
posted by Hans Crapper (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 8:34 AM 'HELLO,' My names Owen...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 9:54 AM What’s the difference between a Skoda car and a sheep ? You can get in the back of a sheep ! Baaa. Baaa
posted by Sheep Shagger (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 10:22 AM Is Wales part of the UK
posted by Wales isn't that Prince Harry (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 10:34 AM I will be cheering on the welsh team unless they are playing England we once had a proud tradition of being British we fought alongside our Welsh comrades in two major world wars and who can forget Zulu and men Harlech also when we play alongside them with the British lions they show great passion and spirit this is my own humble opinion and hopefully with the talent in the England team and the passion the Welsh show we can possibly win the Euros this time
posted by Why why why Delilah (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 10:36 AM

Spot on Kevin let him go, he was found wanting at the top level...no plan B. Going to Bournemouth is a retrograde step. We need a top quality manager if we are going to climb back up to the Premiership. Come on Mr Khan someone with real leadership and tactical nouse.
posted by Darin (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 11:16 PM Spot on! Scotty's sure has a high opinion of himself. Mate,please go and prove us wrong somewhere else. Anywhere else. 4
posted by Aussie Mal (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 4:37 AM Endorse all above postings
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 10:27 AM Why on earth would Bournemouth take on a failed manager? He may have done well in the Championship twice for Fulham, but that's no guarantee he will do well at Bournemouth. I don't think Bournemouth fans are too happy at the prospect either.
posted by Dave Brooks (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 11:04 AM When did he do well for us TWICE in the Championship? BY reckoning he has taken us down twice and had us promoted once (just!). Joka stewarded the previous promotion.
posted by MT - Thursday 17th June 2021, 1:01 PM

Well said how many times do see players standing over the ball winding the clock down trying to get a free kick,such a breath of fresh air after missing a pen showed he’s character.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:27 PM Spot on...well done Wales brilliant result and you made your country proud of you. Great to see people singing their national anthem and being proud about who they are. Garth Bale is a credit no big time Charlie’s but a team fighting for each other .
posted by Darin (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 11:11 PM Spot on...well done Wales brilliant result and you made your country proud of you. Great to see people singing their national anthem and being proud about who they are. Garth Bale is a credit no big time Charlie’s but a team fighting for each other .
posted by Darin (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 11:12 PM A really entertains match. Well done wales. A very likeable team.
posted by Guy (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 12:22 AM

I personally was sorry to see Jean Tigana leave. The team that was promoted to the Premiership under him played the best football I have ever seen a Fulham team play.I remember one game being reported on the radio where the commentator told listeners they really should get down to the Cottage to see the wonderful football being played. I think it was Sean Davis that said they would come off the pitch and think did we really play that well. Should he have been sacked? It looked like relegation and Al Fayed acted quickly. Too quickly? We will never know
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 7:11 PM Doubt we will see that style of football again at the cottage.mind you the players we had then made it look easy !
posted by JW (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:55 PM Jean Tigana was one of the first managers to introduce the passing football style that nearly everybody uses now. At the time it was new and fresh and exciting but it has now become tiresome and dull. Man C use fluid positioning type of system rather the Dutch did in the !970s and Brazil have always used. We could all try to adapt that sort of play but it would take a while for the players to understand it and we would need a manager who who understood it wanted to operate it.
posted by The Time Is Now - Thursday 17th June 2021, 8:33 AM Jean Tigana was one of the first managers to introduce the passing football style that nearly everybody uses now. At the time it was new and fresh and exciting but it has now become tiresome and dull. Man C use fluid positioning type of system rather the Dutch did in the !970s and Brazil have always used. We could all try to adapt that sort of play but it would take a while for the players to understand it and we would need a manager who who understood it wanted to operate it.
posted by The Time Is Now - Thursday 17th June 2021, 8:33 AM

They are all good managers to get us out of the Championship but if we are promoted we must get a Premier League quality manager not hope our Championship quality manger can crack in the top League without any supporting evidence. If we are going to survive in the PL we must be ruthless.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 4:09 PM Not that Welsh twat,Parker head and shoulders above all off them,he’s got a 100per cent record in championship
posted by Chief (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 5:12 PM From what I saw in the playoffs, Valerian Ismail’s brand of football is so agricultural it makes the Wimbledon Crazy Gang look like Barcelona. Hoof it forward and hope for the best seems to be his philosophy. I’d rather have Parkerball to be honest, and I’m not a great fan of that.
posted by Horsham White (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 5:29 PM None of those would get my vote.
posted by Malden Mick (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 7:08 PM I personally would like to see Steve Wigley be offered the post. if no Eddie Howe.
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:00 PM Whoever gets the job I’m sure you’ll all be on here demanding he’s sacked.Team will need rebuilding top to bottom if Parker goes .
posted by Chief (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:56 PM Kunye- that was the conclusion I reached (see my posting above).
posted by Chas (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:00 PM It really doesn't matter who gets the job while Tony Khan is still picking the squad of players. We need someone who's allowed to put together his own team.
posted by NRL (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 5:27 PM

Your a retard. God i bet you were a spoilt little brat when you were younger and mummy gave you everything. And still sounds you still are one. GROW UP.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:16 PM What would you do we these idiots then, who are always a risk to the life of everybody. I could suggest something a lot worse to do to these degenerates.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:27 PM The Astra Zeneca vaccine doesn’t work against variants anyway …..we are being lied to (again)
posted by Nurse (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:49 PM The Astra Zeneca vaccine doesn’t work against variants anyway …..we are being lied to (again)
posted by Nurse (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:49 PM Just wondering out loud ….if we’re all vaccinated ,and assuming the vaccines work , then surely the anti vaccine lot are only a risk to each other …..or am I missing something !
posted by Markrightback (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 11:14 PM Even if they are 90 percent effective that’ll still leave 10 percent of vaccinated people vulnerable. Most of those have other pre existing conditions, so a lot of those are in care of one form or another, hence carers need to be vaccinated to offer the best protection possible to the most vulnerable vaccinated people. Though you are correct the most vulnerable to covid are the unvaccinated which is why at the moment there is such a larger than normal proportion of hospitalised people are under 50, since they haven’t had a chance to get both jabs yet.
posted by Guy (Guest) - Thursday 17th June 2021, 12:21 AM

If one had to register then it would clean up our forum
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:02 PM So why haven't you registered?
posted by MT - Thursday 17th June 2021, 10:47 AM

Social media is a joke ….the equivalent to the Wild West…..best stay away or just ignore the rubbish …..intelligence is hard to find and sense is not common
posted by Voice of Reason (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 12:10 PM I actually agree with you for once, on The whole. Over the last few weeks it would seem that there is a new poster who will Post something provocative, if not discriminatory, and then pepper their own posts with replies from different monikers. The sole reason they are posting is to cause arguments. I would suggest you try and live by your own rules and try not to to deliberately aim comments like ‘YES choice’ if you would like to Prevent the decline and prevent goading. Also when you were moderator you went on many foul mouthed rants when I requested we discuss football Only on this board - to Prevent arguements and make sure EVERY Fulham fan feels welcome. Which will be the only way to prevent this decline. The owners of the site recently said this is a board for Fulham related topics so the addition of Brexit, covid and politics might be responsible for the constant arguing. The club actually told me that the forum was closed due to the constant moderation required to Prevent it turning into a board like this.
posted by O David (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 12:27 PM I think everyone is entitled their own opinions, but this a Fulham football site and that must be the main subject. I am an active antirelionist, republican and socialist, but would not press any of my views unless asked.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 12:52 PM MT, I completely agree with your post, yes I used to enjoy people’s opinions about non Fulham/football matters but it has gone over the top and has in some cases become toxic. As football fans a bit of banter is expected but abuse is not exceptable. It seems that this site has many anonymous wind up merchants waiting for someone to post about a subject that is near theknuckle or a subject they may not agree with and then the thread becomes open season for the multi named idiots. Everyone has an opinion, which is how it should be, sadly some posters can’t except this. I often wonder if some of these posters are Fulham or even football fans, I hope this board gets through this and if so the many leavers will return. If members had to sign up (email address etc) and were unable to hide behind a false handle this surely would help.
posted by Gaz - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 12:53 PM My apologies if I’m wrong OD but I think you once suggested that only matters involving F FC should appear on this site. Often as of now there is very little going on regarding our side( except rumours) and I enjoy the thoughts of others on various topics
posted by JW (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 2:03 PM Just a piece of news to brighten up the day, seems that steve cooper of swansea and the guy from barnsley are being touted for parkers job,both seem to have what we need knowledge of championship and an advance thinking brain. we do need some one who is familiar with ups and downs of market, may be we have two people who fit the job.
posted by pointless (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 2:32 PM Steve Cooper looks like a good manager, but does he ever smile, is he kind to his players and will he drink less than our last Welsh manager.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 3:09 PM MT I think I probably disagree with you. Not sure what the problem is. Of cos there always going to be a few idiots coming on board here who have no interest in Fulham. I can actually name a few Brentford fans who come on here whenever they win! But on the whole, I think 90% of the people have an interest in Fulham. The difference maybe the sort of fans you want to see. The reality is with social media (which by the way I dislike and don’t use) has not helped as it has given people a platform to say what they like and not like. This site is no difference. Many more fans are much more critical of the club and some dislike the owners so much they threatened to give up their season tickets. Some ready to shoot the manager as soon as he makes a mistake. We even had someone criticising cavalho missing a half chance against Man U in his first full game. I respect their decisions or opinions about the club so long is not motivated by racism or any form of discrimination. Otherwise I don’t read them if don’t like to. Or I argue if I disagree. . So I am not sure what is the problem? Maybe you’d prefer an exclusive little club with just your old mates. Sadly, this is a forum open to all Fulham fans.. at least that’s what I thought!
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:42 PM Well said John.
posted by Your Dad (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:17 PM MT..agreed.... some discussion and varying opinions can be good....but unfortunately some on here don’t want to listen to a different opinion they just want to blindly criticise yours by as you say using words like woke,lefties,tight wing,etc.
posted by Oz Nick - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:31 PM

The manager is not a major figure in the transfer business other than an advisor.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:15 AM Much easier to buy new players if they know who their manager is going to be
posted by Old bloke (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:35 AM The new manager will be some inexperienced chap or some washed up old bloke.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:49 AM Khan is absolutely right to put his foot down. I’ve said before I’d be shocked if he canned SP and had to waste paying compensation on top of the previous wasted spending. Any compensation to SP gets applied to FFP and would not be prudent. Either he quits, or another club pays us. Only ways I see this going.
posted by Californian - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 4:25 PM

Woke BBC will be sweating!
posted by GB News-The Voice of Reason... (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 7:57 AM All borders are closed to any incomers in Hungary that's why they have contained the virus.
posted by Realistic (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:09 AM Yes a super spreader event is a good idea for all anti Magyars.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:18 AM

What about Muslim staff in care homes?! If vaccine contains Pork products...
posted by Turkish Trotters (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 7:35 AM 100% agree but I suspect will not be adhered to in the Care Sector as everyone would think. And correctly children are not going to have the AZ chimp vaccine mandated on them.
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 7:37 AM MT...Are you are watching the right wing GB NEWS??
posted by Ernst Reich. (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 7:39 AM Well, unless you have a friend or family member that died OF Covid brought into a care home by a member of staff then you won't know how it feels or will necessarily agree I guess. No issue but my opinion still stands very strongly. By the way and for those that don't know, my wife is an NHS nurse working in reablement and palliative care in people's homes so I hear the stories first hand and it is mandatory for them to have the hepatitis vaccine so why not coronavirus?
posted by MT - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:02 AM MT, I totally agree with you, and any care home worker most definitely should have the vaccine, and if they don't toe the line, they should have to forfeit their jobs. It is not as if this new ruling will come in next week, they will have virtually four months. We must not drop our guards in care homes anymore.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:10 AM Turkish trotters if you do not believe in vaccination go back to where the rest of the primitives live .
posted by Old Un (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:11 AM

The way we do business it wouldn’t surprise me if we end up appointing a new manager with one day until the season starts so we are mid table by Christmas
posted by Pez (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:38 PM Looks good on paper but like Ranieri out of time with his football ideas.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:38 PM The average manager club lifetime is 18 months.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:45 PM Football Managers Out Of Work 2020/21

Out Of Work Managers | The A-Listers

ANTONIO CONTE
ZINEDINE ZIDANE
LUCIEN FAVRE
RALF RANGNICK
ERNESTO VALVERDE
ANDREA PIRLO
PAULO FONSECA
RUDI GARCIA
VITOR PEREIRA
Premier League Contenders – Current Out Of Work Managers
ROY HODGSON
NUNO ESPIRITO SANTO
RAFA BENITEZ
CHRIS WILDER
FRANK LAMPARD
EDDIE HOWE
MARCO SILVA
BRUNO LABBADIA
EUSEBIO DI FRANCESCO
PATRICK VIERA

Out-of-Work Managers: Championship & EFL
Contenders

ALEX NEIL
TONY PULIS
DAVID WAGNER
GUS POYET
OSCAR GARCIA
NEIL LENNON
MARK HUGHES
PAUL CLEMENT
PAUL LAMBERT
PHIL PARKINSON
SOL CAMPBELL
ROBERTO DI MATTEO
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:50 PM Eddie Howe would be nice, attacking football played on the deck suits us
posted by Pez (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 10:06 PM Pez-LOL ! Yep,given the way the Khans operate a managerial appointment on the eve of the new season would be typical !!
posted by GEZZA (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 10:25 PM John' the Khans wouldn't want Benitez because Benitez would want a bigger budget than the Khans could afford or would want to give. Remember the sly comments they made about the 100 million we spent first time around? This is why we were restricted and shied off taking Toney from Brentford and a few others. It makes you wonder if the Khans would have stumped up the fees for Andersen, Lookman etc if we were still in the prem? Benitez likes a challenge but he also likes money first just like Mourinho. These type of managers cannot afford time or reputation in getting a team up from scratch with limited resources. Time is now forgot to add Big Sam onto the list of out of work managers. He is another one who could not hack it and he basically talked himself out of a job. West Brom wanted him to stay but his pride wouldn't take it. Talking about pride in a man' i am surprised that Big Sam didn't sue you for leaving him off the list, lol.....
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:44 PM Add Luis Castro to that list. Three years ago, he managed to do an amazing job with Vitoria Sport Clube (a low mid table club) here in Portugal (finished 5th, taking them to Euro League) and was snapped up by Shaktar. First year there, he won the Ukrainian League with and reached the Euro League semi-finals. He finished this year 2nd in the league, with Kiev dominating the league. He didn't do amazingly well in the european stage, though he did manage to bag 2 wins against R. Madrid in the Champions League. With his contract finishing in the summer, he decided he wanted to try different stages and left. I personally like him and would say he's an interesting choice. Humble guy, very straight forward on his interviews and enjoys attacking football.
posted by Rico (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 1:58 AM Very Interesting Rico, I’d never heard of him but sounds like a strong contender.
posted by Guy (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:59 AM Owen, to be fair, I think the sly comments on the previous wasted spend were more in reference to FFP issues, not their ability or desire to spend. However, maybe daddy is awakening to his sons incompetence. But then he keeps him on with no more spending. So who knows
posted by Californian - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 4:30 PM

Excuse my ignorance, but I keep seeing the name Javier Pereira linked to Fulham as our next coach. Personally I have never heard of him, so please enlighten me to who he manages now, and what is his reputation, and can I presume from his name that he is French ?
posted by Brasher (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 8:45 PM Was Slavs assistant I think
posted by Chief (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:09 PM Javier, was with our club working with Jokanovic, and then left around the time that Joka did. He then returned to Fulham,and if my memory serves me right, he then came back as assistant director, and then left again to take up a post in China. It is a complete mystery to me that he is being talked about as our coach, and in my opinion it would be a disaster if it ever happened.
posted by A C (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:13 PM Ralf Rangnick another old man with outdated ideas.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:42 PM Javier Pereira is Spanish, and his name pretty much says that. He has a wide knowledge of football, since he has worked in several different countries (and continents). He's mostly known for being a man behind the scenes, working most of his career as an assistant manager. in English Football he's mostly known for his partnership with Jokanovic, where he was his assistant during Joka's tenure at Watford and Fulham. He also briefly had the Assistant Director of Football role (didn't even known that was a thing) at FFC from Jan 2020 to Sep of the same year, which had... 0 impact to be honest, since we still ended up recruiting players at last minute. He left Fulham for a Management position at the Chinese Super League relegation candidates Henan Songshan Longmen. Since taking over that club, he has saved them from relegation (he took over at the start of the relegation playoffs, winning 4 and drawing 2). This year's Chinese Super League he has managed 2 points in 4 games (4 Goals scored vs 5 Goals suffered). The board might favor him since he's gaining first team manager experience for a while, he knows the club and seems to get along well with the board. Is he a good solution? In my opinion, not really. Show's the boards lack of ambition. Thnks Transfrmarkt, Wikipedia, and some general knowledge (& memory) for the sources
posted by Rico (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 1:44 AM It is well documented that Carlos Carvalhal is looking for a way back into English football. Carvalhal' had a good stint at Sheff Wed and only lost out in the play-offs to Huddersfield. He had a short spell with Swansea before departing these shores. Carvalhal has some international experience from a stint in Turkey which is useful, and also add to his list, Portugues clubs such as Rio Ave and i think his current team is SC Braga in Portugal. His time and experience back in the Championship with Sheff Wed is the bread and butter.The shorter spell for Swansea after the paul Clemmant sacking is interesting and maybe predictable as in, he was sacked after Swansea relegation. Carvalhal also won a manager of the month with the Swans and picked up home victories against Liverpool and Arsenal. Maybe we can compare with Parker, and Parker won a promotion which looks like he has the edge over Caravhal? I would argue that Carvalhal's type of football had more cutting edge with Swansea in the prem. As for relegation, we all know the difficulties and yo-yo situations for clubs like Swansea Fulham etc. Caravhal was a centre back in his footballing career, and think he would go about the job brilliantly if he can get a modest budget from the Khans. He also will bring more of a cutting edge to our Fulham attack more so than Scott Parker. Parker somehow never quite worked out a way on goal and that is why we struggled and knew our fate long before season ended. Experience comes with job cv , and Caravhal has the cv to prove and show it.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:44 AM Sorry Owen, but not going to happen. Simply put, he joined Braga last year and managed 4th place in the league and is going to the Euro League with them. Not only that but Braga is a portuguese team that has been developing nicely over the years. Can't see him trading that for the uncertainty here. I do like him though. Very Portuguese on his press conferences, and a humble chap.
posted by Rico (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 6:31 PM

You are obviously the only contributor to this site who feels this way.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 12:55 PM Really? Because I've not seen alot plaudits on here over the last couple of seasons pal.
posted by Liam (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 4:25 PM Time proved Scott didn’t have it to be a successful Premiership manager, he never had a plan B... Good luck to him in the future but Mr Khan needs to get the right man and not a make doo on the cheap. Good players are attracted to good managers and we need someone to get us out of the Championship and get us back into the Premiership. No club has the right to be there, but we need real talent and quality that not only gets us back, but we stay there. Onwards and upwards....we are a unique club but we can do so much better.
posted by Darin (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 4:51 PM

no, no limit there.. they have brains. like florida and texas
posted by No limit (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 7:40 PM Do you know more people died of smoking related illnesses than COVID every year?
posted by Chief (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 8:42 PM You had better check that with MST. LOL
posted by geezer (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 8:58 PM Easy solution don’t smoke !
posted by JW (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:00 PM Smoking is not highly infectious.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 10:03 PM Anybody that smokes must be completely stupid , utterly disgusting habit !
posted by Paul (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 5:07 AM Between 2016 and 2018, 77,600 deaths were attributable to smoking per year in England. Estimates from the governments of the devolved countries suggest that smoking is responsible for over 5,000 deaths each year in Wales, 10,000 deaths each year in Scotland and 2,300 deaths each year in Northern Ireland. Source: ONS

Considering that over 120,000 people died of or with Covid in one 12 month period, no, smoking does not kill more people than Covid. Stupid made up stat which isn't unusual on this site....
posted by MT - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 6:46 AM Tobacco causes 8 million deaths every year , as of March this year COVID has resulted in 2,6 million deaths worldwide !
posted by Paul (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:11 AM 93.6% of stats are made up
posted by Doris (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 8:12 AM Smokers kill themselves - Covid carriers kill other people
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 9:40 AM Old Bloke. You've done it now. Wait for someone to raise the secondary smoke argument.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:00 AM Yes mt and you’ve provided your fair share. Remember your three paragraphs on why it would take 10 years to vaccinate the country, you finished it by saying “you do the maths“.
posted by Guy (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:03 AM Broadsword - you're quite right - that's why it's banned in public places. You retain the right to kill yourself in private.
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 11:08 AM Again Guy, you paraphrase to make your point. What I wrote "WAS AT THE CURRENT RATE" which, was extremely slow when we started the vaccination programme. I'm pleased to say that we moved the management of it outside government which changed the project from slow and laborious to World beating.
posted by MT - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 11:44 AM obacco kills more than 8 million people each year. More than 7 million of those deaths are the result of direct tobacco use while around 1.2 million are the result of non-smokers being exposed to second-hand smoke. Over 80% of the world's 1.3 billion tobacco users live in low- and middle-income countries.

3,839,875 people have died so far from the coronavirus COVID-19 outbreak as of June 16, 2021, 10:44 GMT.

My point was made regarding the UK not worldwide but by the same token, it is unlikely that figures from third world countries for Covid or smoking are anywhere near accurate nor sizeable enough.
posted by MT - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 11:49 AM ...and I should add to that, that smoking has been around for centuries and Covid not even two years. Also dying from smoking is relatively long term and mostly self inflicted whereby death by Covid by comparison is short and inflicted by others. Comparing smoking with Covid is pretty ridiculous in any case so not sure why I even got into this debate lol....
posted by MT - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 11:57 AM Old Bloke. I was not making the point about secondary smoke, I was saying that someone would after your comment. I agree with you.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 1:16 PM You didn’t you qualify it like that, you were quite serious and condensending like your post often are, it’s you changing now what you said. I called you out on, I said it’s the first week, give them a chance to scale up and you are fear mungering. I remember the very next day witty then told people not to do kitchen table maths on the subject which I also relayed to you. I remember the thread well because Ari got involved after I said I it knew it would be unpopular on here but If I was in charge I’d not let unvaccinated people into public leisure and events, which ari compared to Nazis.
posted by Guy (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 7:56 PM

Better get used to it - reckon they are in for the long haul !
posted by JW (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 5:39 PM While I understand the angst against Tony, he seems to slowly start acknowledging the fact he can't be present in 2 continents at the same time. His twitter posts are mostly about his Wrestling company and I believe that's why he hired Javier Pereira to help him. Unfortunately Pereira left as soon as he got a management job offer and since then no one has filled that position. I would say that getting a new Assistant Director of Football should be the board's highest priority to plan for the long run. Ralf Rangnick would be an amazing bet (even though too difficult to reach imo). He did an outstanding job with Leipzig. I've read that the role is vacant because of how demanding the job offer is, but let's be honest... Liverpool's DoF didn't have much international experience and is doing a fine job. the Board just needs to get someone with a football heart who loves numbers as much as they do.
posted by Rico (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 2:17 AM

If Fulham really wanted Parker, do you think they would let him go to Bournemouth?? Do not forget, Bournemouth had been in the premier league for about 5-6 years, they are probably financially with a bigger P&L than Fulham. The issue we all know is in Tony Khan. He's approaching his role like a General Manager (in America Sports) and that doesn't work in English football because to the fans the manager has to accept all responsibility! I just hope he or he's Dad see that now and change the structure before the next manager. Otherwise, will be dejavu again!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 5:03 PM Fulham haven't let him go to Bournemouth. They've let him go. Probably because he doesn't want to be there and that any owner would know that keeping a manager that doesn't want to be there is a bad idea. He is then free to join Bournemouth. whats does a bigger Profit and Loss mean?
posted by Ted (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 5:26 PM The Telegraph article seem very contrived, all speculation no evidence whatever. They have picked up rumours and turned them into a fabrication. All papers make up things not just the tabloids for the small of mind.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 5:42 PM You’ve got to be kidding John
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 5:58 PM The problem with parker is he believed in the hype others put on him, without having proved his ability, this is seen by the amount of clubs rushing for his signature. now is the time to get in a real professional, and no more apprentices.
posted by Putney Pete (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 6:00 PM Pete, exactly my sentiments, re; a professional proven manager.
posted by Old Un (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 6:10 PM it's all gone quiet on the web site.....indicator of possible announcement coming up
posted by lily-white (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 6:28 PM

Bobby zzzzzzz ;0))
posted by MT - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 12:56 PM Oh I do like to be beside the seaside...
posted by Doris (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 1:04 PM No doubt the Sun came up with this one !
posted by JW (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 1:18 PM Source ……John Percy of the Telegraph
posted by Alan (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 1:45 PM For me its fingers crossed
posted by Cottager (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 1:48 PM Parker will be gone by end of the week
posted by VAR (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 2:12 PM MT, no chance Bobby Zamora will be manager
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 2:29 PM If Parker to Bournemouth falls through, is there still a way back for Parker to stay at Fulham? Given his dwindling popularity, he’s position as a coach at Fulham in my view is no longer tenable. I assume he didn’t ask for the move but I guess he could have come out to say he is committed to Fulham.
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 3:52 PM All well and good but do you have any faith in our owner or his son actually appointing a decent replacement?
posted by Silver fox (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 4:36 PM By his own admission Zamora not a lover of day in day. Football no way would he take a job in football !,
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 6:01 PM "Zamora" no way do we need another unproven amateur as our manager.
posted by Old Un (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 6:13 PM Who said anything about Zamora being Manager? The poster's moniker is "Bobby Z"; I was merely being sarcastic. Crikey!!
posted by MT - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 6:41 AM

I had the same issue. Log out first, then click on the "renew now" link then, I think there is then a link called attached membership or attach ticket or something like that and it will then ask for your e-mail address and password and voila.

You won't have to wear a mask ;0)
posted by MT - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 12:54 PM Cheers MT
posted by DMK (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 1:47 PM

It is.
posted by Realistic (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:45 AM Bit like Northern Ireland...
posted by Agent Orange (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:51 AM Napoleon preferred St. Helena!
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:59 AM The Bounty mutineers preferred Pitcairn. Me, I like the Isle of Wight, not sure that’s part of either UK or France.
posted by Realistic (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 12:04 PM Isle of Man does nice Kippers.
posted by Kipper Tie (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 12:23 PM As I live on the Isle of Wight I can assure you a passport is not required.
posted by Ian (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 1:39 PM Agent Orange- So, Northern Ireland is a part of France then?
posted by Chas (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:53 AM

Really stupid question and yet another post designed to create trouble!! Firstly ROI aren't in the competition and secondly their are, no doubt, Celtic fans from other countries outside of Scotland and Ireland so Scots will support Scotland, Irish will support Ireland; which league team they support is irrelevant to country. Pfft!!
posted by MT - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:27 AM Have only seen Irish flags being waved at Celtic Park...
posted by Young Sweaty (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:42 AM I think support for Celtic and Rangers divides down religious loyalties, not National, Catholic as apposed to Protestant. Southern Ireland being a Catholic nation they naturally support Celtic the Rangers are therefore supported by Protestants.
posted by Realistic (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:51 AM

The group that socialize most in large groups are the young people who have not had the vaccine. The Government are going to do everything to get the 18-22 group done as quickly as possible. The other main factors is schools break up, stopping another super spreader. It would have been better to shut down foreign travel until everybody has two jabs and three weeks have passed since that event.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 10:58 AM Does the vaccine contain any Pork by products?
posted by Rankin Dread (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:10 AM Another stupid divisive and insulting post!!
posted by MT - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:28 AM Doesn't London have a higher Covid rate? More ethnic minorities...
posted by Brixtonian Man (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:49 AM Nah, but the Government do pump it full of mind altering drugs, all the better to control you:) Mind you I’d say it’s not necessary with the brain dead and exceedingly selfish people who not have the vaccine. The rest of us are intelligent enough to resist these sinister attempts at universal control. Bet George Orwell would agree with me.
posted by Duh (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:58 AM MT. It is the responsibility of the wedding venue to ensure social distancing. I suppose they assume most birthday parties take place in the home and can't be policed. I thought I read that funerals follow the same rule as weddings but I might have misread it.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 12:13 PM Duh has had the vaccine
posted by Alan (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 1:43 PM

Were 'The Krankies' at Hampden Park?
posted by The Shadow of Dr Synge (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 5:28 AM Yeah, they were on the pitch.
posted by Sassenach (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 8:14 AM Will the jocks get to play in another EURO before 2050
posted by Ock Aye (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 8:45 AM If Mitro didn't miss that Pen, Serbia were the better team and should have gone through, Scotland wouldn't be in the competition, our Fulham season could have been very different and Mitro wouldn't be on the shop window now!!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 10:09 AM Serbia were no the better team ya clown did you actually watch the game they scored an 89min equaliser and to say if mitro scored a penalty scotland wouldn't been there that's like saying if you never had baws you would be a woman so please don't come out with ridiculous statements
posted by Fulham jock (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:53 AM Dr singer the cranckies were at hampden they were to busy hanging out of ur mother
posted by Fulham jock (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 10:57 AM

Forgot to mention Joe Bennet Famara Diedhiou, Alex Pritchard, henri Lansbury
posted by Bobby Z (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 10:40 PM I think Angela Lansbury has more talent than those mentioned.
posted by Cottager (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 8:47 AM Ryan Gauld did a solid season (33 games, 9 goals, 7 assists) for a low table club here in Portugal. His contract should be expiring this summer. At 25, he could be an asset (Scottish, plays mostly AMC and he's a left footer).
posted by Rico (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 2:29 AM

The top two from each group will proceed along with the four best third placed teams !
posted by Ted (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 7:07 PM Stupid rule to create more games and make more money! Why a team finished 2nd last in your group be allowed to opportunity to carry on and win the tournament!!
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:29 PM Six groups of four , top two from each group go through , that leaves twelve teams ! Where do you go from their ?
posted by Ted (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 9:34 PM Perhaps we shouldn’t have as many as 24 teams? Or perhaps have 4 groups of 6? The qualifiers are so meaningless I can’t and probably most of you forgotten who were in England’s group.
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 9:51 PM The best four third place teams also qualify so you have a last 16.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:00 AM As my earlier post !
posted by Ted (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 1:40 PM

I have to agree, we should have to give both of them a one goal start to make the games competitive.
posted by Malden Mick (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:41 PM Harry Kane should have a field day against Kallas.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:47 PM Unfortunately, due to the way the draw pans out if we win our Group we get the second team from the Group containing Germany, France and Portugal. Don't fancy any of them too much.
posted by Toby N (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 4:11 PM Goalie off his line was criminal, but Scotland still had enough chances to get back into game. At this level, you must take your chances! Anyway' bring on the old Brits versus Scotts ding-dong. Our dearly beloved Nicola Sturgeon will be sharpening her claws for this one. It would be a site to see Boris in full pomp and shorts and yelling the Haka at Sturgeon when England win? If Scotland win, Geezer will be eating Haggis for a week and he will be doing a jig in tartan jockstraps and pledging allegiance to the clan of Robert the Bruce. 'GEEZER' don't do it mate'!!! Remember' England an St George, and 'er' BORIS!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 4:19 PM We'd have to play them at some time if we want to progress but let's hope it's the old foe as they are the weakest of the three on paper...
posted by MT - Monday 14th June 2021, 4:40 PM Before the tournament started I thought England had a good chance, but i am beginning to change my mind. There are actually some very strong teams in the Euro. Portugal - full of solid players plus Ronaldo. France - maybe aging a bit but they won the world cup. Belgium - awesome! Germany - can never rule them out as they get better by the game. Italy - surprisingly good! Netherland and Spain - can never rule them out. So England probably have to beat 2 or 3 of the above teams. I am not so sure!
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:22 PM Len , know you are a cricket fan, young man called Will Jacks plays for Surrey exiting player or what ?
posted by JW (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:36 PM Exiting ? Is he going somewhere ?
posted by Tim nice but dim (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:52 PM I’ve heard one or two favourable comments about him need to find an opener like the. Kiwis seem to have found !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:51 PM I’ve heard one or two favourable comments about him need to find an opener like the. Kiwis seem to have found !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:51 PM Sorry about that !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:52 PM Another Geoff Boycott would be handy !
posted by JW (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:57 PM Rather face them later rather than sooner finish second !!!!!!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:58 PM Yes please with Cooke to open with him !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 7:01 PM Saw Jacks in the Big Bash against Middlesex the other evening very impressive. 70 runs off 24 balls , unfortunately run out when he should have got a 100. Strike rate 291 per hundred balls. One to watch for sure. Jason Roy had to ply second fiddle, that’s saying something in itself. 12 years old or was it 22? Had a 25 ball century last month, not too dusty.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:34 PM Trouble is mortlake test format and batting styles not conducive need to stick around in tests if you have a batting weakness top class bowlers find you out think our top class batsman in one dayers. Have a more cavalier aproach
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:27 AM Absolutely Len, however there are those that can manage all formats playing according to the circumstances. In particular: Root, Bairstow, Butler, Stokes and quite a few of the bowlers. I have to admit there’s a hugh difference between 50 overs and 20 and in truth there aren’t that many but Roy, Hales and a few others are close, think it takes time to mature into a test player, particularly if you get stuck playing the “ playground “ stuff for too long. We can but hope:)
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 10:53 AM Morty .both Roy and Hales have both been given the chance to open in the red ball game but sadly neither managed to impress,. Any thoughts who you feel could do the job ?
posted by JW (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 2:58 PM

equal in everything but not equal enough to have mixed football leagues
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:11 PM You’ll be in for a real shock when you find out they can vote and drive cars too.
posted by O David (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:30 PM O’David, typical Woke answer. I put forward a valid point. Would be helpful to respond by answering it. The only response to these issues are; your either sexist or racist. If a female either played or managed a Premiership team I would have no objection to them giving expert analysis from their experience and player’s perspective
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 4:15 PM The problem with your analysis is that it will never allow a pathway to female punditry. Unless the womens game is elevated in popularity, which is exactly what we are seeing now. You would probably be throwing your toys out of the pram if a woman managed fulham, as you suggest, or if our new multi-million pound signing came from Arsenal women. You van barely handle them discussing the mens game, let alone be9ing onvolved with it! So how do you propose they break into punditry then? Additionally, i simply dont agree. I think because of the pressure the female pundits face, they actually come a lot more prepared than a lot of the male pundits - they have to be or they prove you and others right. How many times did we hear how good of a player RLC was from commenatators and pundits like Dion Dublin who had clearly not taken the time to look at his form this season but were there simply because of their football experience. I was also very impressed with Alex Scott for the Denmark game - who incidentally is a household name in the football world.
posted by O David (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 4:29 PM Jegs. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Jon Motson ever played professional football.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:24 PM Most pundits felt RLC had played ok for us, though most on this site disagreed. For the record he has represented his country from U 16 through to a full England cap so the guy can obviously play, perhaps being on loan didn’t bring out the best of him though for the money he received I would expect full commitment every game.I believe Chelsea are happy to let him go it will be interesting to see how he performs for his new club !
posted by JW (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:25 PM You have pressed the red alarm button Jegs and the Wokerati are on the scene quicker than Colombo turns up to a homicide in his dirty old mac. With a pretty predictable response the old " you'd be surprised they can vote and drive cars" how original! I personally wouldn't have any problem with a woman, gay, transgender, non white or any other minority you can think of managing Fulham as long as they had a proven track record at the top level and managed us so we won matches and played attractive football and we progressed. As for your original post now we have redressed the predictable woke response, A long time ago Brian Clough gave an interview with John Motson and said people sitting in their armchairs at home watching football want to watch the game and not listen to you pundits waffling on as you carry on too much so stop it and let us watch the bloody game, not his exact words before the Wokerati waste their time looking it up so they can quote his exact words and score points, and I have to agree with him I turn the volume down most of the time while the "experts" are waffling on or pause the programme.
posted by So Predictable (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:31 PM I think all the female presenter are excellent. They are intelligent know the subject very well and do not get into Juvenile in jokes like the males presenters do.
posted by The Time Is Now - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:33 PM @JW that's my point entirely. His reputation was largely what most pundits went off. It would be easy to include a dip of form in your note preparation but that was rarely discussed. Just lazy punditry. How much are they getting paid?
posted by O David (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:34 PM So predictable. So boring with the same old 'wokerati' joke. How to you propose they get experience, or a 'proven track record', in the mens game if they are criticised for even discussing it? Alex Scott, what about her? 100+ caps for lionesses, spending most of your career at arguably the best ladies team in the UK? Spending the rest of her career in the best ladies league in the world in the USA? Is she qualified enough to discuss football? Not sure they come much more qualified than her...
posted by O David (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:41 PM O’Guest, if you look at my original posting, you will see I have no problem with women commentating, presenting,or actually managing a men’s professional team (including Fulham); my argument is that when they sit next to a commentator or on a panel as an expert they should have actually been a manager or player at the highest level. And I’m sorry if you think that playing in the WPL qualifies them as an expert in the men’s game, I would question your knowledge and appreciation of the game. At the moment every opportunity is being taken to promote the WPL, well, I think the pathetic attendances reflects the skills of the players. I wish them well
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:55 PM So you'd be happy to merge women into the mens league? Because, otherwise there is no way they will ever be allowed to discuss mens football by your logic. I just don't understand why the most experienced of female players aren't allowed to sit next to male pundits and discuss the game. Do you not have a panel of experts to offer different perspectives. By your logic, there is no woman anywhere who is qualified to be a football pundit because they have never played the mens game. Youd listen to them if they had, but they cant. End of argument..?
posted by O David (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:08 PM I'd also argue someone like Alex Scott has a much better grasp of football than you are giving her credit for. She hasn't played the mens game, fine, fair enough. But she has under taken training sessions at state of the art facilities. Been at an international tournament training camp. Captained a team. Worked with coaches (including ex pro men). Dedicated a life and a career to a professional sport. But none of that qualifies her to sit next to Roy Keane and discuss football in a studio setting as a panel of experts offering different perspectives. But Dion Dublin, who has 4 england caps, and has never been to an international tournament, knows more on the topic than she does and is therefore a better pundit.
posted by O David (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:21 PM Maybey RLT was typical of this type of hype that goes on now golden boy from top club gives him a bit of a leg up has a purple patch Does not reach expectations for various reasons in his case bad injury. !! Personally never rated him but think he could make it in championship
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 7:12 PM O’Court I thought you said it was end of argument; then you carried on arguing. You carry on living in your politically correct world where race, gender and sexual orientation is more important than qualifications for the job. You are welcome to it. I think that does end the argument
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:09 PM Jegs, oddave thinks he is better and above the rest of us , wouldn’t bother with him if I was you .
posted by Trev (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:15 PM If I am not far wrong, 90% of the teachers and 80% of the lectures I had in school and university never worked in the commercial world. Are they qualified to teach me? Probably not if you apply the logic a pundit must have players int he premier league. At the end of the day, a good pundit doesn’t have to be a good footballer in the same way a good football manager doesn’t have to ah e played in the premier league (Mourinho never played proper football! Warburton of QPR didn’t know football until he got bored of the city). So am not a woke but as long as the women pundits talk sense I have no issues. I’d rather watch a pretty young woman on TV than miserable sourness!
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:26 PM John, now that is sexist. Poor old O’Court will go apoplectic when he reads that.
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:32 PM Understand they have to put the odd female presenters in but apart from Alex Scott and Gabby Logan don’t think any of the others offer much.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:51 PM The lady cricket pundit called Ebony is absolutely brilliant on the test match panels, and is as knowledgeable as any of the ex test match players the she joins up with. She always explains everything with great clarity, apart from which, she seems a very pleasant person to work with.
posted by A C (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:52 PM John, Warburton was on Leicester City's books until he injured his knee/ankle and realised he wasn't going to be good enough. I know, I worked with him in the City.
posted by Hints (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 11:58 PM

Thank you 'Secretary of State. '
posted by Dr Synge (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 1:45 PM Pity they can’t find a jab to stop our cricketers playing like a bunch of school kids !
posted by JW (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 2:02 PM and wear are these nonsense stats coming form/
posted by Geezer (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 2:18 PM The Office for National Statistics Geezer but I guess you think they are in on the conspiracy too lol...
posted by MT - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:24 PM Geezer. So officially collated stats are nonsense but we are expected to accept your "man in the pub" anecdotes as gospel?
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:28 PM Of course MT you think govt conspiracies leave out the stats offices? lol you fool
posted by Geezer (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:44 PM the above post was not mine. But time will tell. And numbers can be adjusted to suit what ever.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:47 PM the two above posts were not mine
posted by geezer (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:48 PM that wasn't me ^^
posted by geezer (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:58 PM Spoke to a person at Kingston hospital last week asked about current Covid situation stated they had 4 cases hospitalised Might have risen since ( hope not going to be in there for a few days this week )
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 7:20 PM Good work MT, but I suspect you’re flogging a dead horse with Geezer.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:41 PM The stat that I missed off which, Geezer will undoubtedly dispute is over 130,000 died with or of Covid.

No death is insignificant but 130,000 AS A STAT pales 66 into insignificance I'd say.

As you write though Morty, walls, heads and banging comes to mind. I wonder if he is in the fraternity that believes there is a microchip in every inoculation and that aliens are the catalyst to this World disaster.....
posted by MT - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:54 AM Hahaha, probably.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 10:55 AM

100% agree - well done Raheem Sterling just don't get the title of your post. He scored a goal in a football match which meant England won and that is fan-bloody-tastic but by the same token, Christian Eriksen had a cardiac arrest in a football match and nearly lost his life - does his life not matter because he isn't black. Some very strange divisive thoughts and posts going around these days...
posted by MT - Monday 14th June 2021, 12:08 PM Just another post by someone hiding behind fake moniker to try and cause racial tension. Really poor humour.
posted by O David (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 12:11 PM O David. Looks like your the one creating the tension...
posted by Nutty Dread (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 1:33 PM ALL lives matter , not just black ones !
posted by Ted (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:32 PM Jesus Ted, predictable or what? Do you not understand that Young Paps doesn't support BLM and is using it as a very tasteless joke to provoke a reaction?
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 7:33 PM From you boredsord everything is predictable .
posted by Ted (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:17 PM It's like arguing with a 5 year old.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 9:09 PM Leave oddave out of this !
posted by Ted (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 9:27 PM Boredsord , you shouldn’t discriminate against certain people , naughty, naughty !
posted by Ted (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 10:35 PM I am astounded by those on this board who monitor it almost like the Gestapo during the war trawling through the posts looking for comments that they perceive to be racist, sexist, homophobic and not PC enough for their liking, and I'm talking about the most innocuous of posts, you can't criticise a person of colour without being accused of being a racist or challenge a woman without being called a misogynist the accusations come thick and fast and are relentless, they will go on and on repeating their accusations even when the original poster has denied they are a racist sexist etc etc, and guess what folks it will only get worse. I'm quite sure if they could cancel you they would without hesitation or the realisation of their hypocrisy.
posted by So Predictable (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 11:48 PM So the title of this post is fine? Seriously
posted by Oz Nick - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 5:10 AM So Predictable. Replying to a comment the same day is hardly trawling through posts. Anyway, I was under the impression that this was a messageboard and you were supposed to reply to posts.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 6:15 AM Broadsword you are stating the obvious again, of course it's a message board, but in saying so are you attempting to negate my point which is that you and your like minded posters without mentioning any names see racism sexism and homophobia in the most innocuous of posts and straight away throw out the same old accusations, for example one of your like minded posters stated "it seems there are white supremacists on this site" which frankly is ridiculous. You have to come to the realisation some people don't share your opinions and probably never will do, you are entitled to yours and they are entitled to theirs, but you seem to be on some sort of crusade to sit upon your high horse pontificating your PC agenda to us like you are the self appointed thought Police which you are not and never will be.
posted by So Predictable (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 2:53 PM Spot on Mr P , couldn’t have put it better myself !
posted by Ted (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 3:00 PM Do Predictable. So what was the point if your post if not to "negate" as you put it, the views of those who do not agree with you?
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Wednesday 16th June 2021, 1:12 PM

Disaster Noun a sudden accident or a natural catastrophe that causes great damage or loss of life. modifier noun an event or fact that has unfortunate consequences.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 9:47 AM Completely disagree actually. I thought that they played to the conditions. It was 30c on the pitch by the time the game ended and 27c at the start so, in my opinion, they played a cool waiting game, pushing the ball from side to side moving Croatia players constantly and you could see by midway through the second half that they were knackered. At that point England upped the tempo and took the chance when it came their way. Perfect tactics for a hot and humid afternoon that paid off with three points....
posted by MT - Monday 14th June 2021, 11:47 AM WHAT IS a worry is were are the goals coming from?,never knew kane was on field first half,the mid field so fulhamish, side to side across and start again,back to keeper all very pretty, can emagine some one in southgates team has watched fulham and said !wow! that so pretty we can do that, so they do .We dont appear to have a scorer calvin lewis came on very late , why ??? for what reasons, a few moments and thats it, he is a goal scorer but not wanted as a starter, we shall see just wish there was a little more killer instinct up front ,we will be made to work for any goals against better opposition .
posted by pointless (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 1:52 PM Do like the look of Kevin Phillips, maybe we have unearthed another star !
posted by JW (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 2:07 PM Think you mean Calvin Phillips - at least I hope you do lol...
posted by MT - Monday 14th June 2021, 3:25 PM It’s Kelvin !
posted by JW (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:29 PM Kalvin... 4th time lucky
posted by O David (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 6:34 PM Think I would prefer Kevin phillips
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 9:31 AM

Like you MM thought it was an ok performance, could easily have been a couple of goals better but important to get the three points. Next up the old enemy shouldn’t need any motivation to see them off.
posted by JW (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 8:55 PM Thought the same pundits thought otherwise 2 chances first half not many more second Thought Croatia was pretty average. Need to buck our ideas up a bit. After watching the Italians first up we won’t beat them !! If and when we meet we were ok but predicatable hate to say it but we need grealish to run at opposition and do what he does best
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 8:57 PM Not a bad performance, and at least we won, which is better than our disgraceful England cricket team. Mind you that's not too surprising, as we play far too many 1 day matches, and our batsmen have forgotten how to build an innings anymore. At least Sussex and Surrey are good at one day matches, so we can cheer them on.
posted by A C (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 9:41 PM Fortunately for our cricket team the sports pages will be all about the footie result. Just as well as they were outplayed - dreadful performance- Aussies will be trembling in their boots !!
posted by JW (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 10:07 PM Yep the cricket is good to watch. Surrey in ascendancy. England cricket have lots of injuries and the Political problem with Olly. Did not watch England football game, to be fair barely watched them since Gazza and Shearer. Dont get the unity and comradery we used to have with England.
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 7:14 AM Plays like us except they get ball forward faster and have lots of players who can score. So really not like us at all.
posted by The Time Is Now - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:15 AM Even by our standards that was a shambolic display by our cricketers admitted we are 3 or 4 injured at the moment but the first four positions need urgent attention !!! Incapable of staying at crease without playing a stupid shot !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:33 AM Why all the surprise about Kane? Why should he be more knackered than any other player? His usual performance - did nothing and got subbed! That just about sums him up. And he's supposed to be captain and setting an example. Still, he used a lot of energy up, clapping himself as he walked around the pitch!!
posted by Fulham Addict (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 9:43 AM Kane is completely overrated as an International footballer and he should never be captain of England. He is great in club football where he can score regularly against the weaker sides in the division, but when it comes to important International fixtures, penalties apart, he is just a very ordinary player.
posted by BASHER (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 11:17 AM Hmmm 34 goals in 54 games with countless assists! A goal every 143 minutes! Yes I agree Basher - very ordinary lol
posted by MT - Monday 14th June 2021, 11:51 AM 34 dives in 54 games more like it !
posted by Tom (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:34 PM Keep up the good work Basher, I'm loving it!!
posted by Fulham Addict (Guest) - Tuesday 15th June 2021, 11:50 AM

Agree John. The problem on here is some cannot get their heads around the fact that others may have a different opinion to them but can’t accept a different view and unfortunately use name calling to push their view which immediately losers all respect.
posted by Oz Nick - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:04 PM Apparently according to Southgate all Brexiteers and those who boo players taking the knee are racist. Not quite sure what qualifies him to make that assumption. Perhaps he should stick to his day job
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:25 PM Pot, kettle comes to mind OZ Nick
posted by Fred (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:47 PM I don't believe Oz Nick has ever resorted to name calling.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:51 PM Perhaps not, I don't know, but he, like yourself, struggle to accept a different view to your own.
posted by Fred (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:57 PM Fred you mean the way you accept a different view. I find that a bit hypocritical. And no I have not called anyone names on here so why would you write that? Back to footy methinks....
posted by Oz Nick - Sunday 13th June 2021, 12:07 AM My point wasn't that you call people names, but that you cannot accept others views. We are all guilty of that, it's called free thinking and/or freedom of speech. But for you to to call others hypocrites, well, as I said "pot kettle".
posted by Fred (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 12:20 AM Fred ...perhaps you should read Johns heading that I agreed with. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but name calling and bullying others who have a different opinion is not on and that was the thread. That is why I responded to your wrong comment re pot.
posted by Oz Nick - Sunday 13th June 2021, 12:36 AM Think you got the wrong end of the stick there Fred. Maybe you should practice what you preach. You no less than anyone else posting on this subject are refusing to accept another’s view. In my day, in truth, it was called expressing an opinion, which we are all entitled to. Comments such as your “ Pots and kettles” are infantile, critical of someone who expresses a different view and indicate a sneering intolerance.
posted by Duh (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 7:54 AM Whilst accepting the fact that the England manager has every right to his opinion on those who voted to leave the EU .His assumption that you must be a racist if you decided enough is enough is complete and utter nonsense. The EU is rapidly disintegrating and how long before other countries fancy going it alone. If we had remained how many jabs would we have handed out Apart from Geezer there are millions ( me included who are more than happy to have received both jabs.
posted by JW (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 11:21 AM Duh...thank you so much for your comments. I REALLY appreciate it as I don’t have a thick skin. Let’s move on....let’s all support Fulham!
posted by Oz Nick - Sunday 13th June 2021, 1:19 PM Get lost Duh, whoever you really are
posted by Fred (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 1:37 PM Good one Fred, constructive.
posted by Realistic (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 2:22 PM As I’ve been posting on the site for maybe 10 years Fred, your comment does seem to support the view that you’re not someone who takes note of others postings and views and reinforces the general opinion that your comments can be discounted as irrelevant.
posted by Duh (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 2:32 PM Your second name isn’t Flintstone is it Fred?
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 2:47 PM Yeah, I know Realistic but sometimes I just get fed up with all the knobs on this site and cannot be arsed to put together any kind of argument. The O'Davswords, the JJEZZAs, the OZ Nicks, all talk about freedom of speech and diversity but all the do is end up talking down anyone who disagrees with their own point of view. It's why so many long term posters end up leaving the site. They bully and troll while pointing the finger at the rest. My comment was puerile and childish I agree, but sometimes you just have to let it out. Clearly this site is no longer for me I'm not black, gay or LGBGTQI+ of any description so i no longer am entitled to have an opinion, the world has gone crazy, the inmates have taken over the asylum. Ta ta
posted by Fred (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 12:13 AM I am very confused Fred. I am not sure you have read and understood the top of the thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as said above including o david,broadsword jezza and the Fred’s of this world. But bullying and name calling is not acceptable. I don’t talk down to anyone but if you read it that way that is your issue.
posted by Oz Nick - Monday 14th June 2021, 5:15 AM I think it’s very easy to read, or miss read, a post and to immediately bash off a response. I think, hand on heart, we have all been guilty of that sometime. Keyboards in the solitude of your home are too immediate and there is no reflection or external control. I often find myself screaming at something or someone on the TV, something I’d be very unlikely to do to their face. My wife suggests I calm down and I normally do. If you think it, you don’t have to say it, putting stuff in writing will always be a step too far, it can be read and re-read thus compounding the insult. Suggest that before one sends a post in indignation or anger, we all get our wives to read them:) Alternately take a deep breath, read a few times and amend before pressing send. I will try to follow this sage advice, but don’t hold your breath:))
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:23 AM Omg Mortlake.....I 100% agree with you. Unfortunately the written word has no modality and can be harsh to the reader. Thank you so much for sharing. My wife tells me to not respond to stuff but it’s nice to have a response that makes sense. Thank you and to all....
posted by Oz Nick - Monday 14th June 2021, 9:20 AM Good man Fred, respect. I would add that I do agree with a number of the points you made, just questioned the way you expressed them. Agree with Mortlake’s comments too, we can all learn.
posted by Duh (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 11:01 AM Fred. For the record I have never tried to stop anyone expressing an opinion unless their post is clearly phobic or bullying.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 12:45 PM

go away
posted by shut up (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 8:52 PM I’m sorry death is a part of living and no matter how tragic any death is life carries on as normal except for the family and friends of the deceased. The World has not stopped turning and people will continue to express their views on various subjects
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:21 PM Many on this messageboard defend their posts by invoking free speech. Surely by the same argument if Gareth Southgate does believe what you say he does then he in entitled to say so?
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:46 PM Sorry - this should be posted above.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:49 PM you're preaching to the converted Broadsword of course Southgate is entitled to say what he feels, I can't see where you are coming from, if anyone disagrees with his opinion on something that doesn't mean they wish to deny his freedom of speech by saying it, on the contrary.
posted by So Predictable (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 12:10 AM So Predictable. My post was meant to be in the thread above replying to Jegs saying Southgate should stick to his day job.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 6:34 AM I’m sorry Broadsword, but Southgate took on the England manager’s job, so he took on the responsibility that goes with it. Would it be acceptable to express disparaging remarks about, say, Liverpool or Millwall fans? No. Then whilst I quite agree he has the right to support his players taking ‘the knee’ i don’t think he has the right to decide the reasons for people who don’t or decide the reasons while people voted to leave the EU
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 7:14 AM Jegs. I understand where you are coming from but I feel people should comment on things connected to their lives. Like it or not taking the knee is very much part of football at this time. As to Brexit, well that affects all of us. It can't be denied that there is a racist element in football and our society in general. However, I agree that it is ridiculous to say that everyone who disagrees with taking the knee or who voted Brexit is a racist.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 7:37 AM I’m afraid the “Racist Card” seems to be the first port of call for many who can’t come up with a coherent argument or sensible comment on the issuing being discussed. It’s very easy to say less so to justify.
posted by Duh (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 8:00 AM Lovely day for an England win against Croatia!,
posted by JW (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 9:55 AM JW. At last, something we can all agree on (I hope!)
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 11:00 AM Broadsword, I accept he has a right to promote his players taking the knee; and I think it’s debatable whether fans should boo (although it seems acceptable to boo individuals or teams for other reasons), but I still think a lot of those who express themselves in this manner are protesting against the BLM organisation. I’m sure there are other more acceptable gestures for the players to express their sentiments against racism. With regards to Southgate I haven’t forgot the penalty miss in the 96 Euros which broke a Nation’s heart. I know that could have happened to any player; but then to go on and profit by it doing a Pizza commercial laughing at it, was unacceptable.
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 11:55 AM Freedom of expression some fans cheer some boo some kneel some stand free country to express how you feel !!! Or is it only what certain sections want to hear and see personally think it’s serving little purpose now don’t seem to be a problem in Eastern Europe no one takes the knee there
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 9:08 PM

Sorry …what has one got to do with the other ..
posted by Markrightback (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:30 PM Are these people real Fulham supporters or just stupid kids.
posted by The Time Is Now - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:43 PM Awarded to him by a member of the white establishment!
posted by Old Paps (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:50 PM It's an award for all he's hard work.
posted by The Time is Right. (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:52 PM Do hope he starts against Croatia...
posted by Time and a Place. (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:54 PM Has Sterlings time arrived?
posted by Old Father Time. (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:56 PM So we turned down 16 mill for mitro, why if he dont like parker why would he want to stay if parker is going would he go now so this conundrum could be solved.
posted by the real arch (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:58 PM So we turned down 16 mill for mitro, why if he dont like parker why would he want to stay if parker is going would he go now so this conundrum could be solved.
posted by the real arch (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:58 PM For Sterling work...
posted by Time Travel. (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 1:07 PM Sterlings alright by me!
posted by The Time is Left. (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 1:11 PM Sterling currency...
posted by Time and Tide (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 1:16 PM I'd definitely pick Sterling...
posted by Greenwich Mean Time (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 1:22 PM Has Sterlings time come to leave Man City?
posted by Times Changing. (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 1:35 PM Hypocrisy is thinking broadsword and I are the same person when e share an opinion then deleting comments while allowing Rass Michael, old paps, time is right, time and place, old Father Time, time travel, time and tide, time changing, Greenwich meantime etc to continue spamming and trolling to raise racial tension on this site. Either he is a troll who come to this site to cause problems or he is a regular poster who won’t use their usual moniker because of cowardice - evidence they know what they are saying is unacceptable.
posted by O David (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 2:03 PM O David!
posted by O Carroll (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 3:10 PM More Free Speech!
posted by Two Pints of Larger... (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 3:32 PM Will Sterling bend the knee to the white Royal Family?
posted by Bert Trumpington (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 3:38 PM Anyone remember dialling up the the speaking clock.
posted by The Pips (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:02 PM He’s been a bit off lately but I’d stick with him
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:06 PM It's like dialling 999 BLM was mentioned by Rass the alarm goes off and the Wokerati spring in to action slide down the pole get in the fire engine and rush off to put the fire out only it's a false alarm there is no fire just free speech.
posted by Which service do you require Caller (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:12 PM Co founder Of BLM USA resigned due to being caught buying 3- million dollar homes,one in a 95%white gated community. Complete fraud,hijacked the real black community advocates,recieved 90 million in donations,aint gave it out much,cept for staff. SELLOUTS
posted by Hooligan - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:49 PM Racially or religiously aggravated offences - Crime and Disorder Act 1998(amended by Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 and Part 11 of Schedule 9 Protection of Freedoms Act 2012)
Offence

Maximum Penalty
Aggravated form

Maximum Penalty
Basic form

Racially/religiously aggravated wounding/grievous bodily harm (s.29(1)(a) CDA) Crown Court
- 7 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months Crown Court
- 5 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months
Racially/religiously aggravated actual bodily harm (s.29(1)(b) CDA) Crown Court
- 7 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months Crown Court
- 5 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months
Racially/religiously aggravated common assault (s.29(1)(c) CDA) Crown Court
- 2 years imprisonment
Magistrates court
- 6 months Magistrates' court
- 6 months
Racially/religiously aggravated damage (s.30(1) CDA) Crown Court
- 14 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months Crown Court
- 10 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 3 months
Racially/religiously aggravated fear/provocation of violence (s.31(1)(a) CDA)
Crown Court
- 2 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months

Magistrates' court
- 6 months
Racially/religiously aggravated intentional harassment/alarm/distress (s.31(1)(b) CDA) Crown Court
- 2 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months Magistrates' court
- 6 months
Racially/religiously aggravated harassment/alarm/distress (s.31(1)(c) CDA) Magistrates' court
- fine up to level 4 Magistrates' court
- fine up to level 3
Racially/religiously aggravated harassment and stalking

stalking (s.32(1)(a) CDA Crown Court
- 2 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months Magistrates' court
- 6 months
Racially/religiously aggravated harassment and stalking

stalking involving fear of violence or serious alarm or distress (s.32(1)(b) CDA) Crown Court
- 14 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months Crown Court
- 10 years imprisonment
Magistrates' court
- 6 months
posted by The Time Is Now - Sunday 13th June 2021, 7:23 PM Thank you Rumpole...
posted by Judge Jeffries (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:36 AM

As usual Geezer you misrepresent the facts. You are perfectly entitled to display a suitably sized flag on your car. However, if it comes loose and causes another vehicle to crash or injures someone then you will be prosecuted.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 10:23 PM Where are the rest of the Wokerati on this site who champ at the bit and feel obligated to stick their unwanted oars in when there's a comment even remotely related to racism or matters they deem politically correct and then feel the need to impose their views on everyone as if it's the gospel, it's like an alarm goes off in their woke heads as soon as skin colour, the flag of St George, or taking the knee is mentioned.
posted by So Predictable (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 11:10 PM I think when someone makes a comment that is a, completely untrue and b , just trying to provoke a response ..then people are allowed to ‘stick there oar in ‘ …
posted by Markrightback (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 11:22 PM Always the same people though.
posted by The Art Of Crassness (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 12:03 AM A good example of twisting something to fit your agenda. Do it somewhere else like a bnp forum? I am sure you will find more agreeable people there
posted by Tunde (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:14 AM So Predictable. Very apt name as it is predictable that any post you disagree with is "unwanted". For the record I have a cross of St George in my window for every tournament. Geezer's comment was just not true.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:18 AM No mention about the kids getting get killed then. That was my main aim.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:57 AM Broadsword you go about blacks lives matter. And others go on about the flu and one life also matters. More and more people are dyeing of blood clots. But that never gets put in the news or press funny that wonder why.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 7:04 AM So predictable Tunde.
posted by So Predictable (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 7:20 AM Geezer. If you want to make a point about kids then fine but don't use a bare face lie to do it. Also bloodclots were in the news and they did link it to the vaccine but the numbers were no higher than normal. What evidence do you have that incidents are increasing?
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 8:45 AM Broadsword get your facts right. There have never been so many cases of bloodclots as now. Women are being overly effected. I know two women personally that are now on bloodthinning meds because of vaccine. I do not believe I know the only two in the Uk!!
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 9:29 AM Geezer "More and more people are dyeing of blood clots." How many more and more...?
posted by Fred (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 9:44 AM Must admit the amount of young people being stabbed is truly horrific. The solution is Geezer ?
posted by JW (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 10:00 AM Tony R. You know two women who are on bloodthinning meds. You don't know it is because if the vaccine. I know three people on such meds around the same time pre vaccine. The BMJ has now reported there is no evidence of a link between blood clots and the vaccine but I suppose you know better than the medical experts.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 10:06 AM A judge with a lack cap on his head and a rope ring any bells???, JW?
posted by POINLESS (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:48 AM Don’t want hanging back, but you have to hand out severe sentences for knife crime ! And how is it that a piece of vermin like Colin Pitchfork ( double murder and rape) is even being considered for parole ?
posted by JW (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 1:13 PM Like i said it does not get reported. Wonder why. My son lives Spalding and my daughter in law knows that three woman have died of the clots after the jab. One was thirty two with thee kids. Nothing reported about it. And a lot of her friends wont have the jab because they dont want to pass it on to the kids they might have.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:52 PM Geezer. You believe whatever you want. Just keep taking the pills and one day the doctors might let you use a real knife and fork.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 10:24 PM Geezer, my cousin's dog's great Aunt lives in Chalfont St Giles and he knows a guy whose second cousin's pony's owner....... Get real mate. You can't find facts to back you up so it becomes "it's not reported" stay safe in that parallel universe of yours.
posted by Fred (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 11:54 PM Why dont you think they dont report it. Look after yourselves you sheep. And one day you will wake up when its to late up.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 12:03 PM In the first world war you lot were know as Machine gun fodder.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 12:39 PM In the middle ages you would have been known as the fool.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 7:06 PM

Liar
posted by B (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 8:23 PM

Parker self isolated all last season
posted by Cottager (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 8:39 PM

Is that because Toney is slinging his hook and will be going to a real club with a real stadium. Any player who signs for you it will be their third choice at least after not being able to secure a contract with a real club some may come good but if they do they will be off ASAP.
posted by Why are you on another clubs site. (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 4:53 PM You sad individual haven’t you got your own message board?
posted by Chief (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 4:57 PM Negotiations with MAN CITY for HARVEY ELLIOTT are advanced are they? I hope they go as well as Johnson's sausage negotiations with the EU!
posted by Chas (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 5:02 PM Sorry lads, I did of course mean Harvey Weinstein. Being one myself, there's nothing we like better at the Budgie Stadium than a fat pervert.
posted by BuzziB (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 6:11 PM Thought Elliott was a Liverpool player?
posted by Paulo (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 6:12 PM I stand corrected, yes he is a Liverpool player.
posted by Buzzie B (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 8:41 PM You really have a shock coming to you next season. Brentford are a small club with a small club mentality and no history. Most famous player Jimmy Hill!
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 8:46 PM Can’t wait another 30/40 years if only we can be established and a big club like Fulham. Maybe we could have our own message board and I wouldn’t have to come on this one to make a name for myself.Not looking forward to getting thumped every week and getting relegated.
posted by BuzzyB (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 9:12 PM Actually I think Brentford owe their promotion to Fulham. Toney was looking to go to a Premiership club when leaving Posh; and if Fulham hadn’t dithered and had taken him straight away instead of telling Posh to wait until the end of the transfer window, there must have been a good chance Fulham would have stayed up and Brentford fail to get promoted.
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 9:24 PM Only have to wait 6 months to see how we are progressing while FFC are in desperate sakes, in relegation zone and panicking to find a new manager.
posted by Buzzie B (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 10:24 PM Jegs if if if the world is made up of ifs, if frogs had wings they would not bang their arse on the ground
posted by Putney Pete (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 11:37 PM Which two ??? Seem to recall a little bee said no ffc. Players would get in the little bees first team
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:47 PM Sorry buzz misread the post altough what little bees do means nothing to ffc
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 6:51 PM I’m sorry Putney Pete although my heart will always be Fulham, I first went with my Old Man to the Cottage in 1957, and went regularly until 1974 when I moved to Peterborough. But my grandson is an ardent Posh fan and I watched Toney for more than a season and he was the best striker I have ever seen since Louis Saha; I could not believe Fulham arsed around instead of taking a punt at 10 mill or less. What is that in the Premiership.
posted by Jegs (Guest) - Saturday 12th June 2021, 7:43 PM Whats that retard Len bumping his gums about. Hasn't anyone told him, he makes no sense. Imbecile! Lets know how yous get on in the championship next season. I bet most of you will be hoping for lock down 4 to hide yo ur embarrassing attendances. Quak quak quak.
posted by Buzzin B (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 12:57 AM Morning buzz who is harvey elliotts parent club again !!! Even gum chewing Len knows the answer to that one !!! By the way enjoy your self next season think your little club will be in for another bit of chastising like we gave you at Wembley
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:43 AM A bees fan mocking ffc fans pathetic buzz bet our attendances if we are allowed normal access next season will be better than yours
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 14th June 2021, 8:47 AM

Wud na be no too sure! We’ll be flooding Trafalgar Square and celebrating after we beat you in your own backyard. There is no Gascoign to save ya this time
posted by Phil McCavity (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 8:42 PM

2 players I would hate to lose.
posted by Philmidd (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 9:54 AM A complete rebuild is required, as I believe we shall see the departure of at least 5 of our regular squad, and that includes management, coaching & scouting staff. And lets not wait until 1 week before the season starts.
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 10:14 AM If we have a complete rebuild we are at risk, we need a core Championship team of Rodak, Tosin, Bryan, Tête, Kongolo, Robinson, Hector, Reed, D-Reed, Cavaleiro, Cairney. Then we need five additions.
posted by Nosey Parker (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 10:25 AM SK wrote that we are building a squad to bounce straight back so why would we sell our best assets? Paper talk - that's all - nothing to worry about in my opinion...
posted by MT - Friday 11th June 2021, 11:01 AM We are not looking good for the coming championship season and i can see a few more jumping ship to better their prospects. Strong words from the Khans to the media need to be heard before we go into a total meltdown. By the sounds of it' Scott Parker will need to have a hands-up on who wants to play for him? It's not looking good with Mitrovic rumored to want out under Parker. Will Scott Parker lead us into the coming season? We need a press conference and some reassurance from the Khans on all what is happening...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 11:10 AM The average PL annual salary is £3. The average Championship annual salary is half that. The parachute payments help us to maintain some PL pay players, but not many.
posted by The Time Is Now - Friday 11th June 2021, 11:59 AM I would say the average of poor premier league players on a minimum of £3m and the average of the excellent championship players are on half that. So in theory if we can get the overpaid players off our book, we buy championship quality and we have a good manager to bring the best of them, we should be competing in the top 3. But I assume Parker wants a premier league ready squad so we don't yo-yo.
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 12:57 PM An average is and average, Man C pay their players on average £15m so you can see the average is based on the majority of the clubs playing a lot less. We could not afford a squad of players at PL wages perhaps 3 or 4 at the most. Our PL league player we signed will have relegation clauses that reduces their wages to Championship levels so those players have any sense will have an offer price clause in the contract which gives them a let out to a PL club willing to play the price.
posted by The Time Is Now - Friday 11th June 2021, 2:05 PM One area in which TK has learnt is that the 10m relegation clause must be activated at least 30 days prior to the championship season starting. Will hopefully help us avoid a Ryan Sess type situation again.
posted by O David (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 2:31 PM 5/ out that’s management what about players by your. Logic you’d need about 15!!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 2:34 PM MT' paper talk is dangerous. Surely Tosin will be tempted by the interest from prem clubs? The footballer's agents will be all over this and it will be a natural response to want to better your career and make the most while you can. I still say that there is a danger that Tosin and Robinson could be persuaded to jump ship. If we keep them, the Khans will have done wonders...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 13th June 2021, 12:33 AM

If we signed all the players people recommend on this site we’d have a lot of duff players
posted by Chief (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 9:52 AM SO we did sign a lot of duff players
posted by Kunye (Guest) - Friday 11th June 2021, 10:16 AM