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Baz (Moderator)

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Thursday 09th April 2020, 2:38 PM

There is an article titled 'Man Utd owe £169m'and there are photo's of Man U, Man C, Tottenham and Fulham players, ours being Mitro. It goes to talk only about Prem clubs except this little bit,' There is a spot in the top 5 for Championship club Fulham who owe £73.9m.
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Old Man (Guest)

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Thursday 09th April 2020, 11:08 AM

I'm the oldest Fulham fan here - I've seen more than you ever will. I am better.
Fair enough OB but, how do you know you are?
posted by Marbella White 1 - Thursday 09th April 2020, 11:44 AM
Sorry, OB = Old Bloke and you are OM = Old Man got mixed up with me 'O's. MST is an OF = Old f****** so today's very exciting quiz will be to fill in the stars. Most creative response wins.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Thursday 09th April 2020, 11:47 AM
Better than what?/ mushey peas, san miguel, toad in the hole , explain .
posted by poinless (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 11:47 AM
can you beat 1948
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 12:08 PM
1958 is a higher number so it beats 1948 :0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 12:53 PM
I was taken to see my first game at The
cottage in 1938 when I was eight years
old. I remember my dad lifted me over the
turnstile and I was let in for free.
Fulham beat the then Swansea Town 8-1
Ronnie Rooke of the bandy legs scored 4 of
them. That was the day I caught the 'Fulham
disease' and at the age of ninety I am still
suffering from it.
Until I moved to Yorkshire some years ago
I rarely missed a home match and I saw many
great players playing both for them and against them. I guess though in my view
the greatest Fulham player had to be Johnny
posted by aancient chris (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 12:57 PM
Goodness me, well done!! I kind of think that beats Old Man or... will it? Take care and keep safe Sir!
posted by Marbella White 1 - Thursday 09th April 2020, 1:05 PM
Few would argue with your last part Bruv .
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 1:08 PM
Well done for supporting ffc so long and living this length! But what’s this and what’s the point?? It’s like comparing dick sizes and those yet to retire, does that mean they have penis sizes (metaphorically speaking) of a French fire?? I still have quite a few years before I can retire - should I feel inadequate in here? Mmm.
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 1:37 PM
Awww John that's not fair and a mite uncharitable. I for one find it very interesting to hear of long time FFC fans and to hear their stories. God blees 'em all I say.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Thursday 09th April 2020, 1:44 PM
I agree MW1 and especially in these crazy days, it is nice to read the odd heart warming story or six - keep'em coming and congratulations Chris on your loyalty.

It's not a competition John, it's Friends of Fulham remembering the good times and I love reading it personally :0)

posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 2:11 PM
Well, makes me feel like a spring chicken(and that doesn't happen very often)
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 3:19 PM
Are you sure about rooke ??
posted by Len (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 10:26 PM
You can always argue the toss on the greatest player but without doubt the best player for ffc in my opinion was the great Haynes we had other great players but past there best overall Johnny Haynes no 1 ( or 10 )!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 10:31 PM
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Thursday 09th April 2020, 10:56 AM

Just a break from the Covid-19 debate. Yesterday, whilst sorting out box upon box of Fulham programmes and other stuff collected over the years, I came across a metal badge which I have had since the early 70’s. I lived with my mum, dad & sister on the Upper Richmond Rd. I was still young so needed to be accompanied to the games. A few doors down from us lived a bunch of guys who were musicians. My sister started going out with one of them who was called Scott. On one occasion Scott was around our house with his friend Phil. The latter enjoyed his football and didn’t fancy a night in so asked if I wanted to go and watch Fulham who were playing that evening. On the way to the ground he bought me a badge which is the one I came across yesterday. My sister’s boyfriend was Scott Gorham and the guy who took me to the game was Phil Lynott (both of course had huge success with Thin Lizzy). Anybody else got any Fulham related items hidden in the archives that have a story behind them
Nothing to match that.but know upper Richmond Rd very well. 37 bus used to and believe still does trundle its way along there. Lived off Dover house Rd on the council estate. Houses going for 500 k plus these days !
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 1:01 PM
I used to go to 6th form College in Upper Richmond Road (or was it Lower?) back in the day when it was K.C.F.E (Kingston College of Further Education), was opposite the cinema. Happy days.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Thursday 09th April 2020, 1:34 PM
What a great story. How long did your Sister stay Scott's girlfriend, did she see any of his success first hand?
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 2:16 PM
So they named the band after your sister flap ?
posted by Paul (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 3:18 PM
Unfortunately, she didn't stop with him - ended up marrying a guy from another band who ended up going in the opposite direction to Thin Lizzy. Talk about making the wrong decisions!!! and no, the name Thin Lizzy originated from another source
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 3:26 PM
Steve Earle used to take football every Wednesday afternoon at Wandsworth School. Us kids weren’t allowed to tackle or go anywhere near him while he danced around like a bloody great fairy around us. To anyone who got introduced to him, the stock opening line was “ My names Steve Earle, and I play for Fulham “ left many people , particularly female , somewhat underwhelmed .
posted by Keetch54 - Thursday 09th April 2020, 4:46 PM
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Thursday 09th April 2020, 7:20 AM

Rugby league returning May 28.....let’s hope it settles down soon in uk.
Didn’t realise it had gone away !
posted by Mel (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 10:35 AM
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Thursday 09th April 2020, 1:23 AM

Well done to our Chairman for topping up furloughed employees. Lots of business are just paying the basic £2,500 so he has dipped into his pocket and that is to be respected, acknowledged and thanked. He gets some bad comments on this board but actions speak.
This board don’t know how lucky they are
posted by DMK (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 10:43 AM
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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 11:15 PM

I was putting the rubbish in the bin this afternoon and a young couple were passing my place on their way to the park that is at the end of my street. I told them the park is closed and they said “so what, we will climb over the fence with everyone else”. When I asked them why they wanted to put themselves and others at risk they said they were not bothered and they were fit enough to survive. I will not repeat what I told them next. Rather than fine these morons if they do things like this,( they won’t pay anyway) give them community service and make them clean, every weekend for six months, the very park that they are happy to put lives at risk by not doing the right thing. Absolute selfish ignorant f**kwits. Failing this, if they want to run around they should do it behind closed doors. Prison doors.
Omg that is just appalling....ring the police next time and don’t challenge the idiots. I see 900 deaths today....my thoughts are with you all. STAY INSIDE. It has appeared to have worked here along with social distancing.
posted by Oz Nick (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 1:27 AM
That would have been Geezer & wife off for their daily exercise
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 8:26 AM
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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 10:06 PM

Was Ms. Blackman a Fulham fan ?
absolutely in the 60s & 70s like a lot of celebs at the time
posted by Andy S (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 6:02 AM
She had a thing about George Cohen, and said she would stop going if ever he was sold.
posted by Keetch54 - Thursday 09th April 2020, 8:41 AM
HER HUSBAND OF THE TIME maurice kaufman had a antique shop in fulham x opposite the home made sweet shop almost to everington st for a few years so emagine thats were the connection of ffc came from .
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 11:43 AM
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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 1:12 PM

Read something in passing - maybe on this sites daily roundup - that championship clubs are considering a 'nuclear option' where they would all go into administration to force a restructuring in the way the leagues are run. Does anyone know anything about this and fancy expanding on it?
Can only assume you've heard some ridiculous FAKE news like people saying coronavirus came from 5G phone mast! Rubbish. How would administration help and if Premier league give a toss if there were no relegations?!
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 2:00 PM
Probably is. Was just interested in how it would work and what the idea behind it was.
posted by David (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 2:17 PM
To original David. I will Not be posting as David anymore, you obviously started posting before me and must be annoying for you . The site's all yours mate
posted by Ex contributer (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 2:36 PM
The above post was NOT from me !
posted by Ex contributer (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 2:38 PM
Well played
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 3:27 PM
I read the same thing in the Daily Mail, I hope Fulham do not do this.
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 3:29 PM
Not sure what's going on above, so I'll just carry on. I'd imagine Fulham have no need to do this and may actually damage Khans grand plans. But if the EFL teams are to make a stand, now is their time. Probably just a slow day at the Daily Mail.
posted by O David (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 4:59 PM
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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 1:08 PM

What a disgrace they are to football & life in general, non playing staff 80% wages payed by tax payers, players on full pay & José Mourinho thinks I'ts ok to train players in a local park As we all know people are risking there lives to help others but the special one knows best!! Do the right thing THFC sack him NOW!!!.... My partner works in special needs (part time) but is now working over 50 hrs a week to help others & very little PPE......... On a brighter note FFC seem to be doing all the right things thanks to the Khan's......... going stir crazy like most....... Rant over.
Levy makes his own rules does not need to heed what is for the public good. Not good news about Greavsie though!6
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 2:41 PM
Don't make players like Greavsie any more, I wish him all the best.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 4:33 PM
Haynes and Greavsie ,made for each other
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 5:57 PM
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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 12:14 PM

Hey LTS, not sure if you saw my reply to your post on 'weather' before it got deleted. I assume things got nasty between posters - MST could you clarify? Anyway, I just wanted to say I was sorry to hear your wife is unwell and that some posters should maybe be a little more sensitive about how the approach the Covid topic. Can't be nice to hear such idiotic comments when the reality is so real for you. Like I said, I wish your wife a speedy recovery.
I deleted it when I read that it upset LTS with his wife being in hospital for two weeks.

Seemed the best thing to do all round and also best if Geezer refrains from posting on the subject.

It seems as though (quite rightly) Geezer is in a minority of "one" on this board in any case and if I see any more posts with his ridiculous comments on the subject, I will delete those as well.

We should be uniting as a country against adversity and even more so with the common love of FFC....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 12:35 PM
Also I asked if LTS would let us know when his wife gets better. God bless. It is awful when you cannot even give a birthday card.
posted by BAZ (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 12:50 PM
Quite right - Look at us agreeing! Seems this situation has brought the majority of people closer together. The nation had never been so divided in the last few years, it's nice, on the whole, to see everyone getting on again.
posted by Original David (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 12:51 PM
I have just seen your kind remarks and I am bucked about them, and I wish to thank you. My wife is still with us at the moment, and I pray every day that I will see her again in the not too distant future.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 11:43 PM
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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 11:36 AM


April 8 – FIFA has now confirmed reports that the summer transfer window is being pushed back into whatever gap ends up being between the seasons, and that player contracts due to end June 30 will be extended.

The proposals, approved by the FIFA Bureau which comprises Gianni Infantino plus the six regional confederation chiefs, will enable individual countries to determine when their respective domestic competitions can finish.

Under the new plans, deals will automatically extend until whenever the current season eventually ends – with all new deals beginning before the 2020-21 season starts.

“It is now obvious that the current season will not end when people thought it would,” FIFA said. “Therefore, it is proposed that contracts be extended until such time that the season does actually end.

“A similar principle applies to contracts due to begin when the new season starts, meaning the entry into force of such contracts is delayed until the next season actually does start. It is also necessary to adjust the normal regulatory position to the new factual circumstances.

“Accordingly, FIFA will be flexible and allow the relevant transfer windows to be moved so they fall between the end of the old season and the start of the new season.”

FIFA is asking clubs and players to work together to “to find solutions that are fair and balanced for both sides.”

However, if that is not possible it will use a set guidance if it is asked to resolve disputes, as follows:
•whether there was a genuine attempt by the club to reach agreement with the players;
•the economic situation of the club;
•the size of any adjustment to player contracts;
•the net income of players after any contract adjustment;
•and whether players have been treated equally.

“While this will not solve each and every problem, it should serve to bring a measure of stability and clarity to football for the foreseeable future,” FIFA president Gianni Infantino said of the measures.

Contact the writer of this story at moc.llabtoofdlrowedisni@wahsraw.werdna

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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 10:55 AM

I know that we are all aware that the club are awaiting the tribunals evaluation before making any comment but who benefits from the indecision I do not think that will be FFC. I have seen the reports and comments by Jurgen Klopp and senior pro's in regard to his ability so if there is a reason the supporters are not being informed our representatives at the club forums please ask the question.
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Chris of Jokes

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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 10:41 AM

A man went into a Bristol supermarket and tried to buy half a cauliflower. The very young greens-produce assistant told him that they sold only whole cauliflowers. The man persisted, and asked to see the manager, and the boy went to find him. Walking into the stock room, the boy said to his manager, "Some wanker out there wants to buy half a cauliflower." As he finished his sentence, he turned to find the customer standing right behind him, so he added, "And this gentleman has kindly offered to buy the other half." The manager approved the deal, and the man went on his way. Later the manager said to the boy, "I was impressed with the way you got yourself out of that situation earlier. We like people here who think on their feet. Where are you from, son?" "Cardiff, sir," the boy replied. "Why did you leave Cardiff ?" the manager asked. The boy said, "Sir, there's nothing there but prostitutes and rugby players." "Really?" said the manager. "My wife is from Cardiff." "You're kidding?" replied the boy. "What position did she play?"
The best thing to come out of Cardiff is the M4.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 11:27 AM
Was she a hooker ?
posted by Dave (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 1:34 PM
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MST (Moderator)

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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 7:19 AM

I can see the headlines now after the fine weather this comiing weekend.

Please urge your friends and family not to go to public places for their R&R. The sooner we all conform, the sooner this nightmare will be over.

Thanks :0)
Every sensible person will agree with you 100% and I trust the police will impose fines on those who put their own enjoyment before the health of the majority. I am sure the majority will adhere to the restrictions.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 7:33 AM
Unfortunatey BB the fines are not high enough so won't be a deterrent. They need to change to £1,000 with a maximum of £10,000 for repeat offences. Then some people might actually understand the need for conformity...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 7:35 AM
£500 fine or a night in jail if not paid! Happened to me many years ago in an unnamed foreign country.
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 8:43 AM
Yep, if the carrot doesn't work, then the whip might ;0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 9:24 AM
Rather than a complete shutdown(would not help as people not getting some fresh air or exercise at all will create more health issue) the government should say people SHOULD NOT BE STATIONARY when outside. They must be moving at all times when they are out. Either walking or running. But NOT having for example, sun bathing in a park reading a book!
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 12:15 PM
Is it not just as simple as do not spend time in public places such as parks, beaches, etc. It's only for a few weeks for crying out loud!

I'm extremely lucky in that my house immediately backs on to Woodland in the Forest of Dean so I can walk for miles with my dogs without seeing anyone else but I avoid the lakes and tarmac footpaths knowing that would cause conflict.

I do get that people need space and need to get out, of course I do but why be so stupid as to sun bathe or swim or drink wine or buy ice cream or gather in groups or even go to places where you know for certain there will be others.

There are plenty of large open spaces in London (Hampstead Heath, Epping Forest, Box Hill, etc.) and the wider country as well as plenty of woodland to roam in and walk dogs if you have them and a lot of people have some very large back gardens where they can sunbathe.

There is absolutely no need to go to a small recreation area for so called "exercise" and exercise does not include sunbathing, etc.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 12:47 PM
What a disgrace they are to football & life in general, non playing staff 80% wages payed by tax payers, players on full pay & José Mourinho thinks I'ts ok to train players in a local park As we all know people are risking there lives to help others but the special one knows best!! Do the right thing THFC sack him NOW!!!.... My partner works in special needs (part time) but is now working over 50 hrs a week to help others & very little PPE......... On a brighter note FFC seem to be doing all the right things thanks to the Khan's......... going stir crazy like most....... Rant over.
posted by Spurs (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 1:03 PM
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Wednesday 08th April 2020, 1:09 AM

So there is evidence that Qatar bribed people to get the World Cup played there..! No sh!t Sherlock, Blind Freddy saw that at the time! It should have come to Australia, I reckon that was my last chance to see a World Cup before I die, fcuk it pisses me off... Rant over, stay safe and have a happy Easter xx
Bribery in sport. Good lord whatever next !
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 9:18 AM
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Tuesday 07th April 2020, 12:03 PM

Just read on another forum he’s donated $1m to Coronavirus fund in Florida. What’s our Tony doing for our club locally?
Club do loads local and match day staff are all getting paid which is not in there contract l used to work for them last game Derby play off and have friends that still do still a lovely family club
posted by Big Read (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 12:21 PM
It would appear that Kyle Walker's days wearing an England shirt are over. Looking back he will probably think it wasn't the wisest thing he's ever done.
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 12:23 PM
Simon looks like your looking for any excuse to have a pop at Khan,a lot of other clubs would be willing to swap owners with us! Guessing about 90% of clubs we’re very privileged.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 12:59 PM
I believe our superstar boss is about to make another bid for wembley, as they are going to have problems with a shortfall,as it all gets ploughed back in to the F-A they might snap his hand off .
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 3:12 PM
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Monday 06th April 2020, 9:14 PM

Bit concerned about boris
We all should be like him or not because there pull out all the stops to get him well. If they fail not much chance for the rest of us
posted by DMK (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 11:47 PM
It's very concerning that Boris has been moved into the ICU and is reported to be on oxygen. The stats (per the BBC) are not good; for every three admitted to ICU two go on to ventilators and of those two one dies. I'll leave you to work out the odds. Here in the rural eastern part of Arizona Len the catering outlets are closed but otherwise most businesses remain open and the supermarkets are reasonably well stocked in everything except paper products. There are no restrictions on travel just a request to observe the two metre rule where possible. I've been out on the range for the last three days monitoring the calves being born but so far no need to interfere and all good deliveries. Watching the miracle of birth is a powerful and uplifting experience no matter how often you've seen it. Then I come in late, tired and hungry and all I read about are shortages, lockdowns, illness and death. My sympathies to all who have to endure lengthy isolation in cramped conditions, all the more so if their jobs have disappeared. Probably as close to solitary in the nick as most of us will ever get. Troubling times all round.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 6:54 AM
Geezer will probably think that Boris going into ICU is a stunt thought up by Government to get more of us to stay in doors.

I don't like the guy as a politician or trustee of our nation but the man is human after all with several kids and another on the way, so hope for their sake he pulls through. I wouldn't wish this awful disease on anyone. I only had a relatively mild dose as you know but I have still not fully recovered after several weeks!

Ari, your life sounds idyllic to me and if I were you, I would just avoid the news and stay in the cocoon.....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 8:29 AM
Our wonderful NHS pull out all the stops for everyone not just the PM !
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 9:01 AM
Ari, what's with a good ole' boy like you (and ex RMP) riding the range in deepest Arizona? I keep getting images of Kirk Douglas in Lonely Are The Brave - please don't tell me you look like Charles Hawtrey and destroy my fanciful illusion.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 9:50 AM
Destroy rides again ! Whoops meant Destry !
posted by Roy R (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 10:23 AM
Small comfort for you at the moment presume you’ve plenty of space around you take care you must read and listen and think your in another world at the moment !! Hopefully we wiil in the next week or so see some small signs of stability but we must not let up got to nail this
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 10:46 AM
Ari tell me you have the sons of the saddle pulling up crates to sit on and singing songs about drifting tumble weed whilst you bring life to the ponderosa? take care amigo.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 3:15 PM
It's great fun MSt, albeit tiring and all done on foot because of the terrain. Most calves are born in the hours of darkness. One this morning was about the size of a poodle, half the weight and wobbling around bumping into his mother. Within half an hour he (or she) was prancing about and getting ready to walk the two miles to the nearest water. Marbs, The RMP was the Royal Malay Police, not the redcaps and I was attached for a short while, not part of. Good mob though. The Charles Hawtrey look is one I've perfected over the years. Must drag the guitar out Bish and see if I can remember the four chords I once knew. Tracking bulls tomorrow as I saw two in the far distance today, neither I recognised, and if any cows get impregnated now they'll be dropping calves in February right in the depth of winter. I'll do my best Charles Hawtrey and shoo them away.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 08th April 2020, 6:45 AM
Ari how long have you been out there ?
posted by Len (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 10:43 PM
Took the words out of my mouth Marbella !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Thursday 09th April 2020, 10:45 PM
Came to the US in '94 to do a short contract, got hooked up with a lady and travelled back and forth every few weeks until she told me to come on a one-way ticket or don't bother. Moved over in '95 and married in '96. Sort of retired about eight or nine years back and moved from California to our ranch in Arizona up between Snowflake and St.Johns. Normally manage to watch 90% of the games but that's weather dependent, especially in winter, as out internet connection is via satellite. No problem self-isolating around here.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 10th April 2020, 12:15 AM
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Monday 06th April 2020, 5:04 PM

I am really tired on all the talk of players taking a salary cut to help the current situation. We've lost the plot! Let's be absolutely clear. Southgate, Neville, premier league players taking a 30% salary cut for a few months DO NOT Help anybody except the wealthy organisations/individuals they work for!! We should ask the club to redistribute part of their salaries to good causes and the premier clubs or FA should not take money from government. STOP requesting pay cut but clubs to redirect some player salaries to help fight Coronavirus.
John you miss the point. The reason for the wage cut is to help the non-playing staff of each Club to survive having been laid off (or, furloughed). Makes my blood boil that these over paid noncies like Jordan Henderson (who are objecting to this measure) are sitting on their backsides during this lockdown doing sweet FA (no training, no playing - nothing) and in the meantime are still pulling in 50, 60 70 (and more grand) a week. A complete disgrace if you ask me.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Monday 06th April 2020, 5:24 PM
Not a football fan then Mr White ?
posted by Sw6 (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 5:31 PM
Think johns nearer the mark than you Marbella if all the prem footballers took a wage cut it would cost the country 200 mill in taxes based on there salaries not my reckoning but from people who know problem is for them to take full amount and sort out what to do after there paid as for the likes of spurs and scousers need to be ashamed of themselves you’ve been out in the sun to long!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 5:40 PM
What has being a football fan got to do with it? The 30% cut needs to be redistributed to non playing staff on furlough to stop us tax payers bailing out incredibly affluent clubs. Any left over after that should be sent down the football pyramid & good causes. Someone earning £100k per week dropping to £70k per week is hardly a hardship!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Monday 06th April 2020, 5:45 PM
Also, if the government are not paying the 80% of those who have been furloughed surely that would be a tax saving?
posted by Chris of Jokes - Monday 06th April 2020, 5:47 PM
What football players aren’t overpaid ?
posted by Sw6 (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 5:56 PM
My point is quite simple. Premier clubs should absorb the cost of keeping non-playing staff on full or 80% pay! We want players and managers to contribute at least 20% (ie they are being paid no more than 80% of their salary for doing nothing) of their salary (after tax) to fight corona virus. Premier league and FA Organisation likewise should absorb furlough pay and senior executives If they are doing nothing contribute at least 20% of their salary. That’s all we want. Not salary cut that would only benefit the rich clubs (just think premier league clubs just need to buy one less player would be able find all this!).
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 6:49 PM
Len re. your point about the Treasury losing 200 mill. You have to offset that against the many 000's employed directly or indirectly with football clubs across in the UK and who have been laid off during this crisis. They are therefore not paying income tax ....because they are not working. And, if they are not working they don't buy things and if the don't buy things the treasury gets no VAT. My other point stands in that if those over paid prima donnas who get paid God knows how much a week can't take a pay cut then it shows them up to be the selfish greedy bastards that they truly are. I mean who wouldn't struggle on 30/40/50k a week?
posted by Marbella White 1 - Monday 06th April 2020, 7:05 PM
The point is football like so many other businesses has a very difficult few months ahead,footballers like all other big earners have financial commitments Weather it’s on mortgages,other business investments they probably couldn’t afford a drop in wages if they had too. It’s a wake up call to everyone,retail is finished,pubs,restaurants any business to do with travel cabs etc is gonna struggle nobody knows what’s ahead. How many people won’t be able to afford season ticket renewals?
posted by Chief (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 7:52 PM
True but with every thing shut down you don’t need much cash only for food hopefully they are getting that would you like players to take wage cut and clubs taking the remainder ie directors ideal thing take your wages in full sort out your own arrangements ( in a perfect world )
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 9:11 PM
Just watching the second series of Sunderland till I die on Netflix. Apparently the average wage for a Premiership player is £64,000 a week, Championship £14,000 , and League 1 where Sunderland currently languish, £2,000. God knows what League 2 and the rest must be.
posted by Keetch54 - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 8:47 AM
Nothing to do with players at all but Len, what world do you live in writing "with everything shut down you don't need much cash"?

Creditors (mortgages, loans, credit cards, catalogues, etc.) aren't shut down, utility bills are through the roof being at home all day, council tax has increased above inflation again, we eat and drink more out of boredom and many are on a water meters.

Personally, I'm beside myself with worry about losing my job as well as valued members of my team losing theirs and quite frankly, the least of my worries is how much footballers earn and whether they will take a pay cut or not!!!

If people like Geezer stuck to the rules then we could all get back to some sense of normality sooner rather than later and you would all forget about how much footballers earn and start contributing to their salaries again without a thought so long as you could watch a game of football.

Hypocracy gone mad.........

posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 8:49 AM
Take you4 point there but hopefully mortgage frozen by reputable company’s agree there’s still some bills to pay hopefuly not many of our fans are wondering which way to turn
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 10:52 AM
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Excuse me MST for using a new title taking up your suggestion on ideas for the this /next season as i think we have to add tv to the equation. To finish this seasons 10 games I see 2 possibities.a)They can be played.Squeezed into a new 2 weeks for preseason plus 5 weeks with 2 games per week. No play offs.3rd place directly up in all leagues. No friendly internationals ,champions and europa league compressed to 6 non stop weeks .At best even with closed doors wouldnt restart until june and this system requires 7-8 weeks hence at best would finish end july and 20-21 season start sept as clubs have to reorganise the new season.b) season declared finished as it is. The most diplomatic decision I fear the FA would opt for is only top 2 promote as they would consider it extremely harsh to penalise 3rd from bottom and not so hard not to promote FFC or others in same position. Sorting out season 20-21 is probably simpler. Same matches.No brakes.No friendly internationals, maybe 2-3 matches just before the euros.Champions league and europa league(uefa cup) back to tradional systems of only knockout. Less participants per league and away with all the rubbish from turthestan, hamaland and boggleland ,etc etc .These suggestions would not be ideal for the TVs but they now have it served on a plate to get football back to more humane modeand serve a higher quality( create lower leagues for minnoes).Lower player wages, reduce viewing prices ,bring back match times to sensible hours and finally to realise that there could always not be football.
Forget the games and let the teachers decide. They are making even bigger decisions with the gcse and a level results!!
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 3:49 PM
Suggest we forget euros that will give us a few weeks sort of agree on two up from chamionship no relegation because I’m sure we will be promoted next season what a way to open new stand !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 6:01 PM
Think teachers can do there bit as well as football authorities should not be a crossover of interests
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 6:05 PM
These are all good suggestions which is why the FA will not do any of them, their solution will be what nobody wants.
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Now that Dianne Abbott is no longer in the Shadow Cabimet, maybe she would fancy hosting Countdown. The numbers round would be a hoot!
Whats the odds on her being elevated to the House Of Lords? Baroness Abbot of Fckwit.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Monday 06th April 2020, 3:09 PM
She could even join Michael Portillo on his train journeys, as a passenger, which she was is the shadow cabinet.
posted by mwk (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 5:07 PM
Come to think of it MW,Baroness Abbott has a certain ring about it !
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 8:59 PM
At least she will still be able to cuddle up to Jeremy on the back bench.
posted by Alicante Bert (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 7:10 AM
But unfortunately these days, not the park bench
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It looks very unlikely that this season will resume and even more unlikely that some people's suggestions that Liverpool will be handed the PL title or top two clubs in each league get promoted and bottom two either stay up or get relegated so what's the solution?

An extended season from August incorperating the remainder of this season with no European or domestic cup competitions perhaps?

Maybe even a shortened season in 2020/21 that only finishes this season off and then play a pletherer of International games so that ensures players are match fit and team gelled for the world cup in November 2022? That would certainly make the competition more attractive to some.

I just wondered if there are any creative ideas out there that might actually work and don't necessarily only benefit FFC ;0).
Do not want any European footbal recipe for disaster no flights tfn apart from internal finish-the domestic ( maybey forego playoffs this year with regret or get them over quickly or cancel euros bearing g in mind the possible threat of corona again if it’s under control by then
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 8:27 AM
I have said it many times. We want to avoid screwing up both seasons - that'd be really bad! Given there is no certainty next season can start in August and the only certainty we have (hopefully), we have sufficient time between now and May 2021 to finish the current season. I think league should commit to that! whether that's August, October, Feb etc, depending when it can finish, adjust next season accordingly with the priority on the league and drop all other competitions if necessary. If there still isn't sufficient time - maybe play the league with only one game between teams.
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posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 9:11 AM
Realistically football will not start until November at the earliest. If that is the case the current season has to be expunged, it is already seriously compromised. The new season will start in November and will already be on a tight timetable to finish by May for the Euros to start in June. European competition will have to cease for two seasons.
posted by Joka’s Revenge (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 10:26 AM
The cabal in charge of the Premier League will ultimately not be fair in the present crisis they will only be looking at preserving their own interests. Money!!
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 11:50 AM
OK how about this. The season ends now and finishing places are decided by awarding points for each game played. Points would be awarded according to the outcome of the games played (obvs) but allowing for a difficulty coefficient so a win away against West Brom would count for more than a home win against say Barnsley (OK, maybe not them). The difficulty coefficient could be calculated by the league position of the opposition at the end of March with allowances for home and away. I’ll let the mathematicians work out how this can be calibrated. I figure this would even out the positions and allow for games in hand and the fact that we were just coming into a series of very difficult fixtures after a relatively easy February (OK – I know about Barnsley). Far from perfect I know so I would like to hear any other suggestions
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 12:25 PM
As I said this season is already seriously compromised...any mathematical points equation formula would be hypothetical and ridiculous and would make it even more compromised. The fairest and best way forward to give everyone as much time to get over this horrid time is to expunge the current season and start the new season in November. All European competitions should be cancelled for two seasons and resumed in September 2021. This gives the world time to recover as best as possible and gives teams a clear route. That said, even this timetable might be optimistic in light of the fall out across the world from this.
posted by Joka's Revenge (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 1:44 PM
of course, a sensible approach will be waylaid by greed and money.
posted by Joka's Revenge (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 1:52 PM
Actually I think Old Bloke's idea makes sense. It can't be any more ridiculous than denying Liverpool the league for example.
posted by Adam (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 2:10 PM
I’m beginning to think the best way to proceed is to allow another 12 months to finish this season. That way it can slowly be completed with the relaxing and tightening of lock down rules. The big issue being players who want to leave etc meaning once again, the conclusion would be unfair. Jokas revenge raises a good point about European football - it should be ruled out for the foreseeable future to keep the virus contained.
posted by Original David (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 3:26 PM
Forget internationals avoid foreign travel for meaningless games
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I totally agree with you so stop posting
Do one you fat mess. You spend more time on here apologising than contributing so what does that tell you
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Having just revisited the board I see that Owen has made a welcome return. Your absence gave rise for concern snd many posters were seriously concerned. If I may ask, without upsetting the exile in America, if you have been under the weather. Very good having you back but, no doubt, some will complain about your excellent posts in the near future. Like MST I spent many years in the City and met several Public School educated people and, in general, they were no better or worse than anyone else. Our Chairman was Lord Poole and was one of the nicest people you could ever meet. Every day he would mingle with the workers and always lunched in the canteen sitting at a different table every day indulging in banter, listening to complaints and suggestions. He was a true gentleman. Finally, on the question of players spitting I believe it is a relatively new phenomenon as I cannot remember players doing it in the forties or fifties and Sunday teams never did when I played. Most of us kept handkerchiefs In our pockets. Now days players spit before the game starts. I believe it is a habit rather than anything to do with clearing the lungs.
And the point of this post is what? A whole load of dribble about Owen and something else. Post for the sake of posting = boring
posted by Geezer (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 9:08 PM
Bigboy- I remarked about public school boys and not MST if you had bothered to read the posts properly. They are all the same, just like Johnson, entitled and totally reluctant to abide by the rules alongside the rank and file. n
posted by Keetch54 - Sunday 05th April 2020, 9:16 PM
Keetch, my apologies. However, I disagree with your generalisation but agree about Johnson. You get good and bad in all levels of society.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 9:47 PM
Thanks, Bigboy all is well with me. I am well down on my lyrical content on here these days because i don't have a long and distinguished history around Fulham just like you guys. I admit that i have been truly found out in these difficult times. I only really started supporting Fulham around the Stead Malbranque and Saha era sorry! I truly love Fulham but i don't have the content that you guys do in these times of need with stories to tell etc. I wanted to come clean about this a while ago and now i feel i should be honest. I do feel a bit of a fake about this and i know that some on here got the impression that i was a long time supporter. I expect to get some stick for this but i needed to be honest. I try to keep it topical in the areas that i know or anything that might be of interest or even comical. I don't always pull it off and sometimes i get it wrong. I like to be a little bit different and i like to spin it from other angles which sometimes work or sometimes not. Thats me in a nutshell really...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:00 PM
Once a supporter, always a supporter. You saw sense eventually.
posted by Original David (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:07 PM
Did you prefer tigana football or Slav football?
posted by Original David (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:08 PM
Owen, there is no need to apologise as the only requirement to post is the love of football in general and Fulham FC in particular. Just carry on adding your contributions which are enjoyed by many.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:11 PM
OWEN - 20 plus years is a decent and frankly an amazing support. Why feel guilty or ashamed?? After all - not all of us are old enough to be able to support the club of the sixties, seventies, eighties or evening nineties!!
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:14 PM
Thanks, guy's' i like both Tigana and Slavisa era's. Slavisa was stubborn, he wouldn't change any little detail, especially around defense. He needed an Hector early on in our quest to stay in top division and maybe a Kante which Leicester had but couldn't keep. I am not too sure that even Tigana would have survived the onslaught of these teams now like Man City etc. Scott Parker is the beneficiary amongst this virus situation and Fulham are nailed on to give him another season without knowing if we would have been promoted or not. There is more burning fire in people who want to prove themselves right and Slavisa needs another chance but he probably won't get it. A Slavisa team was more polished in the finishing area back in the Championships. Scott Parker will have his time to show improvement yet, so anything is possible...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 11:07 PM
Owen. It doesn’t matter how long you have supported the club you are Fulham, and guess what? You will always be Fulham. So like all fellow fans stay safe and well.
posted by Gaz - Monday 06th April 2020, 1:36 PM
Owen, good summary. Think mawson was supposed to be our defensive answer. I would question the fact that you thought Slav was more polished in the attacking area though. I seem to remember free flowing goals from Hayles, Saha and boa morte. We came first with 101 points. Slav was some way off that.
posted by Original David (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 3:01 PM
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I Have been banging on about this for ages, but finally something may be done in the future to stop footballers spitting during games and spreading germs , that's ofcourse when we get our football back. The likes of Rooney have been the worst for this over the years.
posted by Impartial (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 5:24 PM
Funnily enough, as a keen but useless golfer, it’s also a trait of Tiger Woods and Dustin Johnson and Bubba Watson. It’s what them good ole boys do, apparently, but on the greens...perleeese.
posted by Simon (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 5:41 PM
Not sure Golfers have to do it but sportsman that run a lot have to clear there lungs
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 5:57 PM
Not sure how you managed to spell the word idiot, but I am assuming you got your mum to help you out. But hey, why not go to the the next level and string a sentance together to state your view. Idiot, does not really cut it.
posted by Impartial (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 6:01 PM
Sentance ??
posted by Tim nice but dim (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 6:36 PM
Let's hope our manager sets a good example and stops his disgusting habit of spitting
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 9:11 PM
Lampard was always doing it !!
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I see footballers are speaking out for themselves,rooney tells us to stop picking on them, stopping to glance at his watch that has face the size of a hub cap ,kyle walker decides to invite 2 girls round during lock down,with a mate who then stay overnight , oh dear they really do think they are different.And thats after he has told us what to do ! stay in doors you muppets, i think thats what he meant townsend,grealish , they will have a first eleven soon.
Liniker says we should stop picking on footballers and ask the super rich to cough up a few bob. I've just written to Phillip Green - I eagerly await his reply.
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 3:22 PM
How did you know which of his yachts he'd be on ?
posted by Dave (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 3:51 PM
Rooney is a knob! He say's all the good things then he makes a sly dig at other professionals in Monaco. I wonder who he means? My point is that all professional sportspeople should decide for themselves where to donate too, how much they wish to contribute and so on. This argument is getting way too petty when professional sports bodies are counting who and who has got sports sponsorship and how many. We might as well tell Ronaldo to chip in a million or 2 more than Harry Kane and so on. This argument is getting more ridiculous! Let each one decide how much and where they want to donate too...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 3:58 PM
Is the Rooney did at Hamilton and a few other F1 drivers in Monaco? Maybe he should follow their suit and take the same pay cut they have chosen to do lol
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posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 5:27 PM
I know I am playing to stereotypes but footballers generally are not known for their intelligence. The Chief Medical Officer of Scotland on the other hand...
posted by Broafsword (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 5:59 PM
Agents should put in
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 6:00 PM
Think the point being made is if they take a pay cut it goes back to club and in the directors coffers and a pay cut means less tax being taken think according to a couple in the news today that’s not what’s needed agree there maybey take there wages and sort out what there going to do with it after well done Liverpool for your generous gesture NOT !,,family club think not
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:08 PM
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It doesn’t matter what you think or what you believe has been proved or not, if numpties like you and those morons in Richmond and elsewhere yesterday, keep flouting the rules because of your daft left wing attitudes we will be locked down longer, Marshall law will be nigh on imposed, more of us will lose our jobs and our livelihoods and the economy will crash. Not to mention more people losing their lives prematurely. Don’t worry though, we will still need our bins emptied so you’ll be ok. JUST DO AS YOU ARE INSTRUCTED and we will all get out of this mess a lot sooner. Jeez!!!!!
https://apple.news/AsBZQGRtDShKezFK4PKrrKA Thanks a lot Geezer you idiot!,
posted by Impartial (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 11:58 AM
Geezer,keep your mouth shut and get on with what you are doing.
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posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 12:31 PM
MST typical upper class tory attitude. DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 12:36 PM
Kunye another idiot!!
posted by Impartial (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 12:37 PM
Rather be a live lamb than a dead one !
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 12:38 PM
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 12:38 PM
You selfish twat geezer
posted by Vulnerable person (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 12:38 PM
Geezer l been a rebel good to speak your mind keep the bosses on there toes . But now is the time to stick together and get out of this mess. People like you will muck it up for us all . Do what your told and live to fight another day
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 12:40 PM
DMK I will come back we it it all over And then we will see who was right or wrong. And thanks for that
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 1:06 PM
All the best Geezer
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 1:26 PM
Exercise outside the home could be banned if people ignore coronavirus social distancing rules, the health secretary has warned. Matt Hancock told the BBC's Andrew Marr that the government would "take action" if further measures are needed to bring the coronavirus under control. It comes after reports of groups of people gathering in parks during sunny weather this weekend. The death toll in the UK reached 4,313 on Saturday. Mr Hancock said: "If you don't want us to have to take the step to ban exercise of all forms outside of your own home, then you've got to follow the rules." The health secretary said the vast majority were sticking to the guidelines, adding: "Let's not have a minority spoil it for everybody."
posted by MST (Moderator) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 2:05 PM
Maybe Geezer is too thick to understand the severity of this virus , twat !
posted by Pete (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 2:27 PM
Geezer - This is not a f@@@ing class war you idiot, its a matter of life and death. Old Etonians are a bit thin on the ground in China but their government ordered a lockdown. Because of your job you risk other peoples lives everytime you go out when you don't need to. Don't be such a selfish twat.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 2:31 PM
Don’t know why you all bother arguing with Geezer. He is obviously not the brightest tool in the box
posted by Factmundo (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 3:10 PM
Geezer. To put it as simply as possible. You will kill people if you haven’t already.
posted by Original David (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 3:27 PM
Geezer' you ain't gonna win this one mate, so quit while you are ahead. Just follow the basic rules mate. I will say one thing concerning Geezer and his job situation' working on the bins require team work to clear our streets. In a bin wagon it isn't possible to work more than so many metres apart especially while travelling. Unfortunately, there is always a great danger that Geezer and collegues will cross-contaminate each other through this virus yet. Geezer might be fortunate and not come down with the most severe symptoms associated with the Coronavirus, but he still needs to be careful around people and family. Around where i live there are overflowing bins in certain areas because some people 'still' cross-contaminate their own waste which is a huge headache for the Council authorities. Sweden has taken another approach to the virus and up till now they have chosen to carry on with local services which keep people in jobs. They are 2 weeks behind us by the way folks which means they may well need to take more drastic measures. I think they have 300 odd deaths from corona so far. Can you imagine our bins not being emptied for weeks and months on end because all bin-men decide to take up the Governments advice to isolate? Remember the bubonic plague back in the early centuries? Rats roaming the streets and so on. We would have the bubonic plague on top of us and to name a few more nasty biblical pestillence could spring it's ugly head. Guy's, i hope our country doesn't go into meltdown completely, but we all know that people in jobs like nurses docters, bin-men, and even some delivery food services need to carry on working. Even somebody delivering food runs the risk that the virus could sneak by to whoever is eating it and so on. Sweden are saying that they are following our original plan before our drastic lock-down, and we don't really know who is right or wrong with this one. The fact still remains, we must air on the side of caution, and and that is to obey government guidelines on our side of the pond. 'Sorry Geezer' you ain't gonna win this argument! COME ON YE FULHAM!!! WHERE IS JOCANOVIC!!! IS HE HERE YET???
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 3:49 PM
And so say all of us - well most of us!
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 3:55 PM
MST - I spent 40 years in the City of London surrounded by public school boys who assumed that because of what they were , and where they came from, the rules simply didnt apply to them. Its just not the lefties you should single out but all the idiots I can see from my front window en route to Richmond Park.
posted by Keetch54 - Sunday 05th April 2020, 4:51 PM
Geezer. Has working on the bins and dealing with rubbish caused you to speak rubbish? Maybe you should of got a job in a sperm bank, you are certainly a wa**ker.
posted by Gaz - Sunday 05th April 2020, 5:17 PM
Being told to “Obey government guidelines” and “just do what you are told” several times regarding edicts from incompetent governments who have allowed this virus to explode on both our shores, with nary a testing kit in sight is shocking frankly. And then someone questions said edicts, and then he gets vilified? Everyone needs to step back and redirect their vitriol to the CCP on down to western governments who have failed us at every level and allowed this to get out of control. When will they be held accountable? Why is the guy who sneaks into the market the p@#&k but those responsible are absolved. Can’t be sure of which argument Geezer is making, but if it’s the one I think he’s making, Owen, he won it a long time ago. Someone above even complimented China’s handling of the virus. Absolutely appalling. To all those that go out and risk your health providing important services, doctors,nurses,fire,police, garbagemen and everyone I have missed, THANK YOU!!!!
posted by Californian - Sunday 05th April 2020, 6:20 PM
We know the Goverment made some bad mistakes not only here. Nothing changes there, but no point in making it worst by running around like idiots when there’s a lockdown trying to save life’s
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 7:14 PM
So the solution is for no one to follow any sort of plan and we all do what we want? It’s clear that in order to slow the spread of any virus, that we should avoid unnecessary contact. Until there is a better plan we all need to do our bit.
posted by Original David (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 7:18 PM
So let’s all follow geezers example and see where it gets as idiot!!
posted by Impartial (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 7:21 PM
Your point taken. However, joining your wife on a food run hardly constitutes idiotic behavior. Far from it. Especially in the context of “just do as your told” advice from the true purveyors of idiocy, government and the elite. The difference in our arguments, and I’m definitely not arguing with the merits of yours, is that while everyone obsesses with issues related to one’s mortality, which is fine, there are several issues related to this pandemic, governmental,societal,geo-political,economical, etc., that seem to be completely ignored or not the least bit questioned. Don’t question!Just “obey” or “just do what your told”. Stuff that makes it onto banners in North Korea and China. Don’t let it happen here.
posted by Californian - Sunday 05th April 2020, 7:41 PM
And so our governments have mishandled pretty much everything but now they’re right and you’ll listen? Unbelievable.
posted by Californian - Sunday 05th April 2020, 7:44 PM
Californian. If you bother to read my post properly you will see that it does not praise the Chinese government. I was responding to Geezer's "typical upper class tory attitude" comment and his seeming belief that the virus and the lockdown are some right wing, upper class conspiracy. His follow up "DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO." was particularly idiotic directed at MST.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 8:32 PM
I read it thoroughly but misapplied the context. Guess I’m winding myself up too much. My apologies. Thanks for clarifying. Be well!
posted by Californian - Sunday 05th April 2020, 8:47 PM
No worries. Stay safe.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 9:06 PM
Where not all morons in Richmond !!! presume your all law abiding citizens where you live anyway I take a daily exercise in Richmond park if you google it you will find its pretty substantial area although families should not be paying games in there. ( how nice for it to be a bike free area for the Lycra brigade we seem to get half of London in there week ends
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 06th April 2020, 8:35 AM
Crikey Len; talk about paraphrasing out of control. I never wrote that everyone in Richmond was a moron - just those sunbathing, playing games and in groups of more than two outside their own household. I would have thought that was obvious ;0)...
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Got me thinking that when i was last in position to go this long without football ,, i mean its not coming back before summer!, was back when I was a child. Heads down into the wind thats' what i say at least !!!
even a virus cant keep this clone away, or is he a virus??????
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I expect this last season played to be VOIDED and a new season start again in August, maybe behind closed doors. Many clubs will be keen to offload players whose wages are too expensive and have prove a disappointment and some low league clubs will have to sell their best players to survive. Fulham as far as I can see it, is in a very good position to benefit, if we can move on some of those players that our Directors bought in our last season in the Premiership over and above the then Manager SJ's head. Really a stupid move. But didn't Watford FC know something because I still think SJ was pretty naive with his approach to the Premiership. Sorry.
I thought SJ left Watford because the contract he was offered was lower than any other club in the Premier league. If clubs want to sell players that they have given high wage contracts, they need to find clubs that are willing to pay at least the the same wages. Not easy with players who are not considered good enough for their own clubs.
posted by Alicante Bert (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 11:16 AM
You have a really good point RoC. We may be in a good position to poach a few at bargain prices from struggling clubs. The key, if the season is voided, is getting an added year for FFP reporting. Otherwise it might be our guys getting poached at bargain prices.
posted by Californian - Sunday 05th April 2020, 6:38 PM
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Her and me went shopping last night. when we got to the front of the queue we were told that two adults could not go in together. So i went to the back of the queue waited again an got in with my barrow. I followed her around the shop and just to prove a point i got the same as she did. And i would like to say is i wont be buying as much next week. We then walked out kissing and cuddling and holding hands. I also know of a family of four that do the same and all do the same shop. Nobody but nobody has a clue what to do about whats happening do they.
Jerk! I hope the wife you love so much catches it. Then you will realize why precautions are in place and people like you that think it's clever to flaunt them are dicing with death. JERK!
posted by Chris (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:47 AM
It's because of people, that don't take the warnings seriously that your death toll is rising. Here in Spain, if two people are in a car, the Police will always stop them. If they say they are going to shop, they will be told to go home. Only one allowed. If they both return it is a 600 euro fine. Only taxi's are allowed two people. The driver and one passenger. If two want a taxi, they have to order two cars. We have had over 900 deaths in the last couple of days. We are not allowed out to exercise outside our own house, or garden if we have one. Even with all these restrictions, our death toll is still rising, but people reporting catching the virus is gradually reducing slowly. I am sure that the strict restrictions, although not pleasant are working.
posted by Alicante Bert (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 11:08 AM
Well said AB what you say is so true. However, it does not give people the right to come on here and wish coronavirus on someone. What that person has said (I don't want him to have the satisfaction of his name being mentioned) is both disgraceful, sad and completely unacceptable and he should be fcking ashamed. In the words of Imp ....."Idiot!!"
posted by Marbella White 1 - Saturday 04th April 2020, 11:17 AM
Quite right, no need for nastiness. You notice though that he said he hoped that his wife would get it, and not Geezer. Perhaps he knows that if it is the latter then his bins won't get emptied!!
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 11:28 AM
Don’t think Chris ment it just making a point the wrong way because angry which l can understand need to all look after each other in this hard times. Sort yourself out Geezer
posted by DMK (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 1:29 PM
DMK it's not the jerk bit, its the wishing this virus on someone else, in this case his wife. I'd love this brave internet warrior to say that to Geezers face. No, thought not.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Saturday 04th April 2020, 2:30 PM
you sados miss the point. No body knows how where it or when. If they did we would be over it. Lambs to the slaughter you lot. just follow the next lamb over the cliff. How can you say this and that about it No body knows just shooting in the dark.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 3:54 PM
I bet not one of you can come up with concrete evidence of how it spreads from one person to another. and how to cure it. And the point i was making you carnt go into a shop together but you can walk around and come out together. And do you touch and sleep and make love to your wife. THEY MAKE RULES THAT CONTRADICT THEM SELVES .
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 4:15 PM
Geezer, there IS concrete evidence of how it is transmitted from one person to another but obviously no cure (as yet) but get your original point re couples going into shops together - not seen that policy elsewhere
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 4:49 PM
Flapjack can you please tell us how it goes from person to person. And i will bow to your know how. But please dont say its from the government. Its got to be spot on.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 5:18 PM
Geezer you are a complete idiot!! Always have a conspiracy theory about something idiot!! Most people get out of bed in the morning and wonder what clothes to put on and you wonder if pinstripes were invented by some government spy to give us hallucinations Idiot!!
posted by Impartial (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 5:24 PM
To be fair to Geezer, he did say that he and her's would not be doing a big shop next week. Geezer is putting it all on the line 5 days a week so i wouldn't begrudge him a few extra loo rolls. Record amounts of people are all out in the sunshine today by the way, no comments about that so far...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 5:27 PM
posted by Ben (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 5:37 PM
You don't need to be a scientist to know that the basic principles of transmission of this virus are no different to the ones we already know about. The virus is passed either through direct contact i.e. droplets passed to you by somebody sneezing or coughing, or by touching an infected surface then infecting yourself by touching your mouth, eyes etc. If it is not passed from one person to another through the aforementioned, then how do you think it is finding its way around the world at such an alarming rate?
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 5:44 PM
Flapjack. In the internet age so many people think that a quick google search makes them better informed than the scientists and doctors with years of training. Then there are the conspiracy theorists talking crap about 5G. We might as well be living in the dark ages.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 8:09 PM
flapjack your like the rest you dont know. I asked for concrete evidence. And you dont have it no body does.Like no body know whats going to happen to the football. And Impartial you would be the second sheep over the cliff. Like i have said before if you keep you masses thick they are easy to control.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 8:31 PM
Geezer. On the available evidence any open minded person should be able to accept at least the possibility that the virus, indeed any virus, is passed on by close contact. Whether or not you believe it is irrelevant. Unless your wife is unable to go shopping on her own you endanger yourselves and other people every time you go together.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 9:37 PM
I think it is a flu like virus but not recognisable to what we have seen before The NHS can’t cope with large numbers of people falling ill at one time Do your bit sooner and we come out the other end quicker and hope life returns to normal
posted by Magicman (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 9:40 PM
Broadsword but they let in mothers in with kids. And all the other couples did the same as i did. Even blokes together did it. And i also go to other super markets and they hand wipe the barrows after every time they get used. S,burys dont. So if you stop couples going in together but dont clean the handles. Whats the point.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 8:30 AM
Suggest you contact Sainsburys!
posted by David (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 9:33 AM
Geezer. They let mothers in. With kids because they may not have the option to ! Leave them at home. Our Sainsbury's has spray and wipes by the entrance. I think it it the responsibility of the shopper to sanctified the trolley/casket handle.
posted by Br9adsword (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 11:05 AM
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I doubt football will be allowed to be played before June or later. As such if they want next season to start in August/September, there will not be enough time. So we have two options. Putting the legal aside, cut short next season and finish this season. Or we only promote clubs. Three teams from championship to premier and likewise all the way down to league two. We promote the top three teams. Next season we will have six teams demoted and three teams move up. This is probably the fairest of all. Yes, forest and Brentford will not be happy but they would have a bigger chance (no big clubs) of getting promoted next season than this. If you would them, would you not take this trade?
Personally give scousers the league promote and relegate top three up bottom three down all the way through league Or failing that to keep prem darlings happy two up. Maybey three. If two not to fussed we will walk that league next year and celebrate opening of stand Could work in little bees favour could see them finishing second ( obvious, no relegation from prem this year
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:10 AM
I would Do would bees would be there. Best chance of promotion next year
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:12 AM
Len stay off the juice it's too early in the day.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Saturday 04th April 2020, 11:18 AM
Three up the bottom, sounds painful
posted by Joey (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 1:13 PM
After the horrible things Liverpool have done to us I would like to see the 2019~2020 Premier scrapped, null and void.
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 1:23 PM
And what horrible things did they do ?
posted by Paul (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 2:17 PM
I think cancel next season and finish this one as who knows when we will get through this and the all players fresh for the euros
posted by Magicman (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 9:46 PM
I’m teetotal !, what’s wrong with that idea !,
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:19 PM
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Accept my apologies I should have asked you if you knew anyone with the initials A O C who works for them. Was not trying to pry.
No harm done. No sorry I don’t know that person.
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Hard to believe that SIR(!) Philip Greene, a billionaire who lives abroad to avoid paying UK taxes, who contrived an ownership model for his business to avoid paying UK taxes, who still has to sort out the BHS pension despite having promised to about 4 years ago, who bought himself a SECOND yacht for over £100mln, is asking the UK taxpayer to help paying his staff. I know there have been some dodgy knighthoods in the past but how he’s still got one is an absolute disgrace!
You have to be in the hand shake club. You know what i mean wink wink say no more.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 3:07 PM
I don’t want to defend Green but he’s an easy target to pick on. You could make the same argument for many many small and medium sized privately owned businesses with relatively wealthy owners. If we were to ask Phillip Green 2 months salary for his 14,000 employees that would cost around 70m or roughly 2% of his wealth. Now let’s think of a medium sized business with say 100 employees. The total salary for 2 months would be 50k. So if the owner has a net worth of £2.5m we should as him to not claim the furlough from the government. I am guessing most owners With a company of 100 people can also afford (Our of their own pocket) to pay for their employees. As I said I am not trying to defend Phillip Green but sometimes it’s easy to pick on an easy target.
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 3:53 PM
It's more the fact that he's a tax exile and then asks the taxpayer for help that bugs me
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 4:00 PM
Dont confuse a persons wealth with the equity in a compny idiot!!
posted by Impartial (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 7:08 PM
He should have been stripped of his nighthood and the law changed so his wife was liable for UK tax.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 7:47 AM
Taking 1.5 Billion out of a company as a dividend is personal wealth not equity. Imbecile!
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 8:29 PM
I used to work as a chaufer (I never learned how to spell it) for a large company. He bought his house, his mercedes and porsche all on the company account. He even sent me to buy him Leevi jeans on the company account. When the crash came in 2008/9 The company lost everything, and he ended up losing his house, and cars. I'm not sure if they took his jeans, but he tried to commit suicide. All because he didn't want to pay more personal tax by increasing his wages.
posted by Alicante Bert (Guest) - Tuesday 07th April 2020, 7:40 AM
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So we are under a partial lockdown. If only we had a full lockdown straight away for 3/4 weeks. Things could have been different. The lockdown was inevitable but yet I'm still working and loads of people still are. I've seen people cutting bushes, going to painting jobs, putting up scaffolding like that's a necessity. Something about the whole thing is fishy as someone with half a brain would have realised. The herd immunity strategy would have never have worked and after that they leave us in a partial lockdown. There killing the economy anyway it would have been better to shut everything everyone stay at home and in 3/4 weeks slowly start opening again. A virus needs a host to survive it is not the same as bacterial infections. We are a small island if we killed it off here it would be gone then screen everyone coming in or out once we re opened our boarders. But none of that's been done and were left with over 500 deaths a day keep that up and there will be a problem. Our boarders are still open people flying in daily. It's sad but our governments response is even sadder
Wouldn't utopia be a wonderful place;0).

Nobody working -no taxes paid
No taxes paid -where does the money come from to bale people out?
Nobody working - no food available, how do we eat?
Nobody working - no delivery drivers
Nobody working - who treats the sick?
Nobody working - who drives the ambulances to take people to hospital where nobody is working?
Nobody working - where do we buy medicines?
Nobody working - who puts fires out?
Nobody working - who polices the communities?

I don't think you've thought this through Paul ;0))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:31 PM
Theoretically if every individual in UK (the world for that matter) stay in isolation for 14days, the virus will be dead and those who’s got the virus already are treated or dead, the problem would go completely away in 2 weeks!! Easy! But that’s never possible, so the next best thing to do is how we can get as close to this as possible. since we are doing that we have to think about essential, economy and the indirect impact a total lockdown would cause. We will never know but the cost (health, human life and money) of a 2month semi-lockdown will be immense! How many more people will be depressed. How much hardship this will cause. Etc etc. You get the point?
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:51 PM
Yes those except emergency services and health care personnel. All money is borrowed from a decent few who have made us keep paying interest on the debt :(
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:59 PM
Didn't mean decent btw
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 1:00 PM
And Most I didn't mean everyone. I meant keep the sessential running hospitals and police etc but I don't see my job as essential I go to work every day still 6 days a week to 'fix' the railways. Now as insider into this industry they have only just started to disinfect trains just now! Also I see people getting off the trains of an evening. People coming back from doing construction, going into factories, warehouses. No doctors or police men. I mean how essential is it that we keep a line open from Gatwick to London or Gatwick to reading ? I'm sure all the health care workers are driving or getting paid for cabs. So it just doesn't make any sense. I've seen people in groups coming back from house parties etc so it really isn't working this partial lockdown. And people still have to work a supermarket shift, etc and those that are working because our governments schemes are really not up to scratch. How about like I suggested before freeze all rent, bills etc keep everyone except essential workers in. We don't need trains really maybe. Afew in London and have them policed so only health care workers etc can get on them then this way it significantly stops the spread. But when you have a government who say only go to work if you can't work from home. Then how many people are out every single day? Spreading or catching and passing on this virus? It does beggar belief. And if you don't see it like this fare enough. But this partial lockdown will not work. It's all or nothing. Might aswell of kept everyone going out and everything open if they plan on doing it like they are
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 1:54 PM
In addition to all of this. A man who cannot contain his own hair is who we entrust to contain the virus! Advised by people who follow the scientific data that no other country is following. Herd immunity is there plan slowly but surely and a lot more unnecessary deaths will occur this way. My advice is keep your loved ones and family safe look after yourselfs. If you voted in the racist mental haired pm and his gang. Jacob Reese mogg etc well done.we will all learn the hard way as we have all accepted the sense of freedom over the years which in reality doesn't exist. Rant over. Enjoy your weekend :)
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 2:11 PM
Planes have landed this morning from Shanghai. Seoul. Tokyo. NYC. Need I say more with no health checks and average guesstimate of 2 or 3 covids on each plane? I only have one sympathy and that is with the NHS. Without spelling it out something stinks!
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 2:29 PM
Thats right Tony and freely jumping on buses trains etc and spreading it around. Just look at the death toll just released another 684. More action should have been taken ages ago :(
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 2:39 PM
I believe your post to be reasonable and correct and if MST is sure he knows better he would have posted something more sensible in response.
posted by Ken44 (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 4:48 PM
Ok Ken here goes. There is no lock down in Sweden. There is advice about staying a metre from the next person and no gatherings of more than 50 people but that’s it. Compare that with Austria; a country of similar population (c8m) and square miles. Both had their first recorded case of C19 in the same week yet Austria has three times as many deaths and four times as many contractions as there are in Sweden. I’m not advocating one course of action or the other but make your own mind up as to which country has it right....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 7:18 PM
MST clearly what we're doing isn't working! Plus Sweden has more deaths than Austria? So I don't know where your getting your figures from but check again. Sweden has more deaths mate take a quick look and you will see
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 8:22 PM
Yes you’re right Paul, I put Austria and Sweden the wrong way around of course. I wasn’t trying to make a particular point just trying to show the comparisons. I don’t know the answer any more than anyone else spray from the fact that lock down is killing the economy and a tighter regime would have made things much worse...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 8:46 PM
Ok....here goes my perspective from downunder where the trend seems to be flattening. We have had a partial lockdown except for essential services for about two weeks. Social distancing of 1.5 metres and no one allowed to gather in more than 2 and social distance in force and now being enforced by police. People are not even allowed to sit on park benches. Most of our cases appear to have been caused by allowing a cruise ship to disembark people with covid who then travelled home and caused many community infections. Most other have come from os but people for the last month have had to self isolate for two weeks. I also wonder that if we and uk etc had gone into complete lockdown immediately for two weeks would it have stopped the spread. Yes the economy would be in trouble but we would perhaps have stopped it and all got back to normal quicker which would have helped the economy. However I am no expert but just want to send my best wishes to all over there and truly hope that you can get it under control as the numbers coming from there are frightening and I believe you need stronger measures like us but then again it’s maybe too late so it may just run its course and many more will die. So stay indoors for two weeks keep 1.5 metres from everyone and stay safe and well.
posted by Oz Nick (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 12:05 AM
Share your sentiments Oz. Hope everyone stays safe in England and hope everyone is safe where you are and around the world. We appear to be a couple weeks away from our spike starting yet if the models are correct for the left coast. As for the partial lockdown strategy, it would appear it’s primarily based on keeping the hospitals from being overwhelmed and not much else. As for the virus vs. the economy, these half measures won’t help either sadly, but just prolong the misery.
posted by Californian - Saturday 04th April 2020, 1:30 AM
What is the use by keeping people in doors. When TonyR says people coming here with out checks. You only have to look at the buses and trains with people to and from work. And the bloke that got a stretch for coughing in front of a wooden top. Only because he was one. The laws are there for all not just the system.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 7:43 AM
Read the lead article in the Times today, the lockdown has been a massive mistake. It can’t last as the Govt can’t afford it and it’s destroying economic life for the 99% who ride this out. When it ends the virus will be there, there is no vaccine and herd immunity is the solution. If Oxford uni is right 50% of the population are already immune.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 7:50 AM
PHIL just read it. The idiots are running the asylum.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 9:28 AM
@MST I know you got the countries mixed up but you still got it wrong either way as SWEDEN has the more deaths which we have now agreed but your argument was about not being on lockdown yet SWEDEN are not on lockdown and have the more deaths than Austria who are. I know you alluded to having it the wrong way round but then your argument would mean Austria not being on lockdown as they have less deaths compared to Sweden but that's not how it is I'm afraid.
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:10 AM
Agree with oz up to a point thing is we are squased on an island things take time Daughter lives in Perth nearest city to Perth hours away they can control movement not many people want to drive god knows how many hours to next state not allowed anyway Think a lot of people in Perth have financial problems lots of expats and a government no so liberal as ours but they will solve crisis before us as I say far less people larger area of land
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:24 AM
And just so your aware, Austria has more cases but considering where it is and the ski resorts that were hit it's understandable. They are also on the descend with cases and deaths where as Sweden has more deaths and keeps getting more deaths daily. Austria went into lockdown I believe march 16th that's a full week before us and none of this 'urge' us to stay in. Now I don't live over there or go over there but I'm sure they only had essential workers working or at least should have. They will be relaxing there restrictions way before us and they will have less deaths than Sweden now and in the long run!!
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:26 AM
Thing is John if we all start isolating today in two weeks presume some people well now will start to feel unwell in a week so the two weeks will have to go forward for another week get your point though if nothing else give our health service breathing space to produce equipment we Will get on top of it once we get everything in gear
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:28 AM
Daughter in Perth mentioned a cruise ship coming in locals not to impressed corona on board do not with all respect want that added problem
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:34 AM
The Govenment had the numbers from China who we now know told us lies. The herd idea was from the China numbers backed by the WHO and we have found out that they back China, they refuse to include Taiwan in their numbers. I really do not think anyone else could have done better with the short amount of time with these lies as their source.
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 1:31 PM
I read that people in South Australia are throwing bricks at cars that have other states number plates.
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 1:40 PM
Australia, strange country , even stranger people.
posted by Bruce (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 2:19 PM
Historically there have been a lot of men with dodgy hairstyles who have done good to be fair one or two did not can’t go by your theory to be fair !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 4:59 PM
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You start thinking about all sort of odd thing in these times ,so much time to ponder, i was thinking why do we not have some kind of car wash system that you could spray all the scrubs and such masks gloves with chemicals then heat dry them and use again, we are after all techno geniuses,why keep throwing them away ?SECOND THOUGHT , seeing all the coffins lying on the floor noticed all the same type wood and handles etc,wondered who is paying for burying and how much ?,all funerals vary most over priced depending on what you `have done , but these must all be the same no cars no flowers no people, but no one ever said about cost , what if cant pay???? as no work or such then what?.What company is handling the work ? just wondering not much else to do, i play like errol garner, play jazz gituar like freddie green,so whats next ??? if only!!!. stay safe coyw.
All these really cheery questions. so, a question for you why not join the Friday joke time banter and lighten the mood up a bit?
posted by Marbella White 1 - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:22 PM
All good questions m/w never the less ,no can answer, you can put jokes on here any time but these are worth addressing it wont go away..
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 1:01 PM
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Chris of Jokes

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Okay, here it goes. Be nice people!

My Chinese neighbour said he's just opened a crows shop.

Speaking slowly, I said, "You mean a clothes shop?"

He said, "No, a crows shop, come in and have a rook".
I was looking for something unusual to do for a job so I decided to become an archaeologist. My career quickly fell into ruins.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Friday 03rd April 2020, 11:41 AM
dAN (white Van Man) has a perished windscreen wiper, so in his moment of crisis turns to his fellow bloggers for advice. MST sends him on a lockdown defying 30 mile round trip to Halfords. “One wiper blade, sorry Sir, we only do them in pairs “ exclaimed the masked assistant. “That’s fine” quipped dAN “I will use my Covid-19 Business Loan”. Happy man dAN. Later that day, our intrepid van driver develops a toothache so under further advice from the one-stop FFC Blog, drives straight to A&E. The unmasked doctor advises “Just the one tooth? Sorry, we only take them out in pairs” Done deal for Happy man dAN. Finally home he seeks comfort from mRS dAN, asking her for a blow job. “Sorry dAN” she replied “I only do them in pairs, but lucky for you I went on the One-stop Blog and Marbella White has volunteered - he will be here on the next available flight..... - stay tuned as the true reality and frustration of lockdown UK hits dAN where it hurts the most
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 11:50 AM
Masterpeice! :))))))))
posted by Marbella White 1 - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:07 PM
Magic like it
posted by dAN (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:21 PM
Guys, thanks & glad that you don’t mind being the stars of the show!!
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:46 PM
The cat just asked me if I want the radio left on while he goes out.

Little prick!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:47 PM
Like that one Chris !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:37 AM
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Good morning venerable Moderator. Just out of interest do you work for ISS?
Just out of interest, you smug bastard, how can he answer that and why is it any of your business? You have just trampled on one of the basic board protocols. You might want to rethink your attitude here. Tw@t writ large.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 03rd April 2020, 8:26 AM
Arizonan, you have proved that the various uncomplimentary remarks posted about you appear to be correct. MST is not obliged to answer but I am sure he would always attempt to be polite unlike you.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 8:43 AM
God! Quick CoJ, start off Friday joke time.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Friday 03rd April 2020, 9:32 AM
No I don't work for ISS but I'm guessing you know that they are a Danish company ;0). They are, of course, a customer though.

I would prefer not to disclose my employer for two reasons a) the information I have given below could breach GDPR and b) it would lead people to identifying me personally and that could lead to all sorts of issues....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 11:07 AM
Ari, do you forget to take your bromide this morning lol...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 11:50 AM
Whoah Ari. Chill out! Sure MST can speak for himself.
posted by David (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 1:45 PM
Maybe. So can I of course and I did.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 03rd April 2020, 4:22 PM
MST sometimes I think you work for ikea you seem to spend a lot of time in Nordic countries!!! Not that I’m bothered where you work (. Don’t want to upset ari. Think he’s in a bad mood today
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:41 AM
Ari if I could deviate a bit how’s things in your part of the country bit funny really bit doing some betting on American horse racing presume they have different outlook on some things
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:48 AM
If MST works for ikea? He will be a dab hand at putting shelves up etc. There is nothing worse than mulling over instructions from Ikea that are baffling to us ordinary humans. Is there no end to this guy's list of talents? Super-duper MST!!!!!!
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Just thought in our own jobs what is going on. What changes are there. My job on the dust loads are up fifty per cent. Food waste is up. fly tipping up. Can only have one loader with me at a time . the others travel with the dust cart in a small coach. From street to street. The best bit is roads are empty and no kids going to school. Housing estates more park cars and vans. Getting tight getting in to them esp reversing. What about your jobs.
Is it really true people throwing good food that they stock piled away? Can’t help but think some of the pictures are setup. Eg I can’t believe people throwing what looks like good bananas away! I work in an office so business as usual as I can log on remotely from home!!
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 7:55 PM
Geezer, drive carefully mate!
posted by David (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 8:10 PM
As yet, no one is on furlough in the UK but my teams in the UK and Ireland are all working from home and video conferencing with customers, HQ and each other. We have enough to do for a month or so with general house keeping and on-line training but after that who knows.

We are trying to compensate with social selling and on-line orders but our sales figures have fallen off a cliff and are about 10% down on 2019.

HQ in Denmark has had to lay off a few hourly paid workers but our main priority has been to keep people safe so we have installed infrared cameras as well as employed doctors and nurses to regularly check temperatures and test suspected cases of the virus.

As yet only one person in our HQ has contracted the virus and that person caught it on holiday and did not come into work. They recovered after around six days but they are super fit and run marathons, triathlns, etc.

Worrying times!!

posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 7:16 AM
And you thought Brexit was bad ...
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 03rd April 2020, 8:29 AM
Yes Ari, it was the last thing we needed after that fiasco :0((
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 11:09 AM
John you would not believe what people chuck away. Day old meat of all sorts still in the package. Full loaves of bread, eggs in the boxes. Fruit by the bucket loads. Its unbelievable.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 12:58 PM
Geezer that is shocking!! Why? If I throw away more than 5% of my food I’d feel bad considering how many people are starved out there!! I throw away no more than a few rotten tomatoes or old veg! If my meat is away to go out of date, I’d cook it and keep it for the next couple of days.
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 5:23 PM
Sell by dates and use by are the worst things ever invented. Or may be im old school. Born in 1948.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Friday 03rd April 2020, 5:42 PM
Every cloud has a silver lining
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 04th April 2020, 10:42 AM
Sort of puts brexit into perspective if we get back to normality think we will be a far stronger country. Will take time though. Think the younger generation will benefit more than us old b =++=ds. Keep your chins up this country’s been through worse
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Headlines today - 550,000 nhs staff only 2,000 tested ! Absolute disgrace , what the hell is this government doing ?
Nothing as far as testing goes...Germany over half a million test weekley.
posted by Will (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 7:47 AM
true Government(or English health were slow out of blocks)but still feel lockdown was correct action,it takes time for this to filter through into hard death figures,am encouraged by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine suggesting social distancing means that number of positve virus cases could be 0.62 against an early estimate of 2.6.These guys are usually very good as they know more about diseases than most,just a pity lockdown was not merged with high test rates as Germany etc.Government must hold it's nerve at least for one more week and just take the flak.
posted by brian longhurst. (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 9:25 AM
Germany test 100,000 a day Britain test 8,000 a day , wtf !
posted by Paul (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 10:08 AM
I blame the government when it rains also.
posted by Nick (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 10:23 AM
This hopeless government has known for months this Virus was on its way to the uk but did nothing , Why ?
posted by Pete (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 10:39 AM
I hope the government have started stock piling face masks! it's absolutely crazy WHO and the government cannot see the face masks can significantly reduce the transfer of the virus! yes, it doesn't fix the problem but I suspect it can reduce transfer by a big percentage. I don't understand one of the reasons they gave that you'd touch your face more when you wear a mask?! rubbish.
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 12:03 PM
could b worse could be labour and clown corbyn ,,dont bear thinking about
posted by eric,m (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 12:59 PM
And having Dianne Abbott reading out the daily figures !
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 1:39 PM
I’m in no way a labour supporter but the Tories have had it in for the nhs for years .
posted by Pete (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 2:21 PM
Bet they will remember them when it's all over !
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 2:34 PM
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So Spurs want the government to pay the salary for roughly 550 non-playing staff. This equate to approximately £1.3m per month which is approximately the same salary that Mourinho is drawing! There is so much money in the premier league that it is shameful they need tax payers help for their non-playing staff, generally represent a few weeks Salary of their highest paid player!
Newcastle and Norwich as well .
posted by Pete (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 8:32 PM
Agree John, 750.000+ people risking there lives for no pay & some have paid with their life and there will be more. I'm sure some players & managers are trying to help like PEP G....... I for one will not waste another penny watching football again. Shameful you are being to kind John.
posted by Will (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 12:20 AM
The moaning and outcry on this subject is being heard on all club fans forums. stop moaning,all supporters DON'T ATTEND MATCHES FOR THE NEXT SEASON. Then we should see some realistic price structures.
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 12:00 PM
and that p0n-ce linekar
posted by eric,m (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 1:01 PM
That would surely do the trick, but most supporters can't wait to start paying the earth to watch their team In action again!
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 1:04 PM
My neighbour is an Arsenal fan, think he is wondering if £900 for his season ticket was a bit too expensive
posted by David (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 2:39 PM
Arsenal made app: 60 million from ticket sales last season !
posted by David (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 2:53 PM
Different David to to me. David I’d suggest choosing another username or you will receive a lot of abuse.
posted by David (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 6:28 PM
That happens to be my name, I was thinking the same about you
posted by David (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 8:12 PM
I’m Spartacus !
posted by Spartacus (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 9:51 PM
You misunderstand me. But okay. I’ll change mine.
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Can any body define what is non essential. MST was talking about a shop should sell every thing. We all have different ideas. Re the a wiper on my motor is coming apart. i need it for my job. But if i get a pull by the wooden tops about it. Where can i go and buy a wiper blade i have tried but every where is closed. And if you have a tooth ache. My mates old woman has one no where is open. So she went to the hospital in these times f''king madness.
Can’t you buy a wiper blade on-line? I am sure Amazon have not shut up shop!! Re the dentist, I read the other day that all non-urgent stuff would be cancelled but all dentists should provide telephone care support to advise people requiring urgent help
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 2:27 PM
Are you telling the tooth ?
posted by Dr Phang (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 3:05 PM
Bike shops are allowed to open so I assume Halfords would be a good bet for your wiper blade ;0).

Personally, we buy noin-essential items when we go out to buy staple products like bread, milk, cleaning materials, etc.

Riddle me this, is a pizza considered essential when you buy it in a supermarket and cook it yourself at home but not essential when you have a cooked one delivered :0))))))))))).....?
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 5:17 PM
Pizza is essential full stop!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 5:52 PM
e-bay is open.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 8:08 PM
Flapjack, just bolt a golden retriever to your car roof so that it's tail hangs over the windscreen and keep saying walkies. Should do the job.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 9:43 AM
At least my local curry house still delivers, so my Saturday's are not a complete disaster. Social distancing is still maintained, pay by card, the driver delivers, rings the door bell and retreats. Bon Appetit.
posted by Curry Eater. (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 9:56 AM
My local pizza parlour said they deliver so I asked if I could order a pineapple and liver pizza , they said they don’t deliver , i said you told me you do deliver , make up your mind !
posted by Matt (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 10:43 AM
Bit tricky pulling a tooth online ! ( sorry to be flippant ) seriously bit tricky sticking your hand in a strangers mouth very close contact but if this carries on lots of things we take for granted will have to be addressed no matter how trivial it seems personally next two weeks will be vital we will see signs of slow down don’t want to think about the alternative but this country has endured worse and will prevail
posted by Len (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 11:53 AM
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I used to work in the liquor trade, it’s weekly journal was Off Licence News. One particular issue, published on April 1st, included these spoofs sent in by marketing departments to establish whose “editorial” would fool the most readers - Jacobs Creek announced the launch of a blue wine - Guinness claimed a new technology whereby the head would settle at the bottom of the glass - Pimms in a can came with ice cubes. The spoofs were so well constructed and illustrated with pack shots, they fooled a lot of trade people, some of whom should have known better!
Just wondered if anybody else has any April 1st stories?
posted by Simon (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 12:58 PM
Remember before I started my apprenticeship as a metal worker, you were the runabout getting items from the stores etc for the men on the bench It was April 1st and one of the guys asked me to get a rubber mallet from the stores. Not realising there was such a thing and knowing it was April fools day I refused to get it. The miserable sod told the foreman - who was even more of a misery - result was a bollocking, at least I knew what a rubber mallet looked like!
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 1:38 PM
Similarly, I was the office rookie. Came back from lunch to find a note on my desk asking me to contact Mr Lyon - of course they had given me the number for the zoo!! Fell for it like many others that followed
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 2:01 PM
John have you ever seen the inbetweeners where they do the same thing? They ask for spirit level bubbles and tartan paint.
posted by David (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 2:17 PM
Does anybody remember Alex aka The Traveller? He would never say the word “Chelsea” but referred to them as “the filth.” (Eg. Chelsea Bridge was Filth Bridge.) My better half worked with him in MOD - one April fools day the wags in the office concocted a spoof crossword clue, “type of currant bun flavoured with lemon peel and mixed spices.” The bogus clue was offered to the office. Caught unawares, The Trav responded “Chelsea Bun.” Gotcha Trav!
posted by Simon (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 3:12 PM
Good story Simon, I knew Fergie from the tbt days back in the 1970s , top fella always ready to help you out , rip Al .
posted by Ian (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 3:18 PM
Also remembered being sent to the other end of the factory to get a left handed screwdriver, when you found the guy he said another bloke who worked in an adjoining building had borrowed it and so it went on
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 4:23 PM
Knew Alex well, over the years with TBT,the trips to Helmond, Gibraltar 75,car to Horsham,via the local brewery,he once fell asleep round my old house,opposite the old Elm Park,with the cat on his lap,it was the only pussy he got all season!!!RIP fella,thanks for the memories.
posted by Pete Mackay (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 6:00 PM
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It has been suggested that Fulham enlist the skills of someone like Ashley Cole, Brede Haageland,Tony Gale or Tony Adams yo work with out defence. Having lost Ryan Sessegon to Spurs there is now a need to get some experience into the defenders we have left as it is that area that has been suspect this season. Agree? Will Daniel Levy pay Ryan Sessegon is far better wages at Spurs or are they all going to have to bit the bullet?
We offloaded Sessegnon [tricky to spell] to Spurs. He is not a great player never was just useful that is all.
posted by tony (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 12:32 PM
Never saw Sessegnon as a defender more a winger .usefull not great about right nice lad seems so far we got best of Spurs deal well done Khans
posted by Big Red (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 1:50 PM
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I posted last week about whether work has stopped but I only got a reply from Geezzer who helpfully told me that he was still working. As exciting as that news was, is any work going on? Grassy arse
a friend works for the club and he reckons that the contractors have been there (or were last week). So looking hopeful on that front
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 12:36 PM
Thanks flap
posted by Marbella White 1 - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 12:56 PM
Works on the new stand ended monday evening 30th March review to re starting 27th April
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Spurs, owned by a man reported to be worth over £4bn, are cutting non playing staff wages by 20%. The Premier League, Football League and PFA holding talks on wage cuts but PFA reported to feel no action is needed. Juventus manager and players agree not to take a pay rise for 4 months!! On the other side, Barcelona players take a 70% pay cut and make additional contributions to ensure non playing staff get their full wages.
The world is now full with me mes and must haves.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:45 PM
Whilst most fans and the wider country is furloughed or on reduced wages surely now is the time for the PFA and the players to voluntarily take a cut (not a deferment) otherwise I can see many clubs getting into serious financial trouble or going bust.
posted by JohnFFC - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 7:13 PM
JohnFFC, Deferment. That was the word I was trying to remember!
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 7:54 PM
If this current situation doesn't lead to footballers not being payed stupid amounts of dosh I don't know what will. As for the Juve players least said the better
posted by David (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 8:27 PM
Broadsword - happy to be your dictionary!
posted by JohnFFC - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 8:46 PM
I certainly understand the feelings but I think that there is an alternative view that we all earn as much as we can in whatever profession and if top flight football wasn't such a worldwide pull from people like us then TV companies would be less interested and clubs, players and agents would earn less.

You also have to remember that we all live to (or above) our menas and I doubt that would be any different for footballers to be honest. If you can afford it then take the cut to help others but if you can't and you have a family (however extended)to support then perhaps it's not possible.

In addition, many pepople make charitable donations without shouting about it so calling someone out without full knowledge of their situation is never a good idea.

Just trying to add some balance ;0)

posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 7:26 AM
Apparently the Juventus players have agreed not to have a pay increase for four months. How good of them.! As far as I'm concerned all these players " earning" silly money need to start living in the real world. This includes the likes of " celebrity's". the "Linikers" of this world. Just let it sink in MST over a MILLION pounds a year for fronting a football show- value for money I think not!
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 10:08 AM
John, I really don't care one iota what other people earn mate. If I was in their shoes I would likely want the same amount and I doubt that you wouldn't either....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 12:37 PM
Mst. Your argument may (or may not) be valid in ordinary circumstances. In the current situation why should footballers be protected from the problems everyone else is facing? If Barcelona can do it, the others can
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 1:10 PM
Not really the point mate. Would I accept it yes, but the point is such an obscene amount shouldn't be on offer- We disagreed over Brexit and we will no doubt do not the same here- " You are awful but I like you"
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 1:50 PM
You're both missing the point - just because you haven't heard or read it in the press, does not mean it isn't happening...
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 3:48 PM
Perhaps it's you who are missing the point. Just imagine that if the clubs didn't have such a massive wage bill they just might be able to reduce the cost of watching football.
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 4:31 PM
John, they could do that anyway. Gate receipts in the top two divisions would not cover 10% of players wages and where do you think the money would go if the players didn't get it? Agents? Clubs?

Whichever way you look at it, the money will find it's way back to the players and the only way to stop it, in my opinion, is higher taxation to players, agents and clubs. +75% perhaps, like it was in the '60s and 70's however, if we did that players would simmply go overseas as tax exiles (like pop stars used to), our Premier League would end up like the Scottish Premiership and the lower leagues would collapse.

Just my opinion. It's good to discuss it of course but in real life, when it comes to salary, it's every man for hiimself, regardless of the industry in which we find ourselves and the better we are at our jobs, (usually) the better we are paid...

posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 5:26 PM
Yes mate enjoy the exchanges, quite rightly people have different views on what is a prickly subject- but I will NEVER consider a guy like Ozil to be worth over 300k a week. No wonder he's " happy" to stay at Arsenal, what other club would be daft enough to offer him that sort of money? Whilst I understand that gate receipts are small at the lower leagues, the premier league grounds are usually full so I'm sure having to pay their players less could leave room for the Folk who support them through thick and thin to a reduction in the price of admission. Probably done this debate to death- wonder what will be the next topic we can get our teeth into ?
posted by John (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 7:53 PM
MST - I think you are missing the point and you are wrong. If you read my original post you will see that it is not happening. In fact, clubs are now using the government wage support scheme which is really taking the piss.
posted by Broadsword (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 9:41 PM
Got to be honest MST always regarded having ten mill the same as 100 mill no one can spend 100 mill unless they do something stupid like buying a football club or dabbling in the stock market or big time gambling in all honesty if I had a few quid in the bank which I would never be able to spend I would endevour in these serous times to make some life’s happier would not leave myself short though not one of these well he’s earned it brigade we not here for long do someone some good if you can there’s nothing worse than not knowing which way to turn
posted by Len (Guest) - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 12:05 PM
Presume satellite. Money and sales of merchandise world wide don’t think gate recipients although good for big clubs not overly reliant on
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Ventured out this morning for a food top-up. Shelves mostly full except for the tinned section which was still understandably short in stock. Anyhow, in amongst the stuff that nobody wanted was a tin of Westlers Hamburgers. Anybody else remember the carts that used to line up the Stevenage Rd on a match day selling these culinary delights, or were you saving your appetites for a bag of monkey nuts in the Hammersmith End. Ah, those were the days
I remember the smell more than anything and the fact that cooked burgers were still pink!!! What I miss more than anything coming in off the M4 these days is that evocative smell as you walked through Bishop's Park - Hmmm Westlers, stale booze and fags. Who needs fresh air LOL.

On the shopping note I read today that someone in North Wales was fined £30 for buying non-essential items and a corner shop was ordered to take Easter eggs off the shelf - clearly with the decline in shoplifting, speeding and burglaries the police don't have enough to do :0((((

What on earth is this country coming to and how can you you take away someone's freedom of choice in a free society - sad days indeed....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 3:10 PM
I miss going through Bishop's Park and hearing the band playing close to the cafe,yes,i go back a very long way.
posted by brian longhurst. (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 4:33 PM
I remember the hot chestnut seller yelling Chestnuts! Chestnuts! For some reason at night games!!
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 4:44 PM
I remember having a Westler hamburger after a game from a stand once, it was pink with bits of bone in it the only flavour was the copious amount of watered down tomato sauce I had smothered all over it. I'm sure if you dropped it it would have bounced right back up at you like a super ball.
posted by Hammersmith Gorilla (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 4:46 PM
What else would a hot chestnut seller yell apart from chestnuts ?
posted by Tim nice but dim (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 4:53 PM
There was always a little ice cream cart at the gates adj to the bandstand area in the 50s. was told he had had his pitch since the 1930s
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 5:02 PM
Remember the sellers shouting "Pea-nuts!!! Peanuts for sixpence" I guess just in case anyone confused them with Chestnuts.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 5:04 PM
MW - I remember “Peanuts! Roasted! tanner a bag.........” Percy Daltons only
posted by Keetch54 - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 5:26 PM
Ah the old peanut seller ! Peanuts tanner a bag !!! Peanut shells everywhere anybody remember him
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:03 PM
Bloody ridiculous If the shops open then buy what yuo llke
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:08 PM
Santiis l believer the cart was always ouside that gate in summer that ice cream best I ever tasted believe the family lived near the sweet shop near the ground
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:42 PM
Must have been peanuts then. I was drinking in the Kings Arms with the Beard!
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 7:01 PM
Further do you remember when collecting the Saturday papers to see other results when the cry in London was Star,News,Standard all todays results.We used to get all three perhaps for 2 old pence each or there abouts.
posted by brian longhurst. (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 7:22 PM
I remember the old man with an enamel cup singing under the bridge, on the walk from Putney Bridge into Bishops Park, just by the steps up to the road on Putney Bridge, then just beyond him the badge and rosette sellers at the entrance to Bishops Park. Ah, those were the days, memories.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 11:39 PM
I remember the peanut man coming thro’ the crowd,the lady in the ice cream van,and Micky Beard aah,once spent a session with him up to Blackpool in a compartment train,the sea air sobered me up(we won 1-0)and I remember a little skirmish with him and others on St Albans station after a friendly.Great days .COYW.
posted by Pete Mackay (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 7:58 AM
The Micky Beard memories were always fun if not hilarious. I always remember when we got to Old Trafford and Mick decided to go in the Stretford End on his own. He caused havoc. He just stood there bellowing Fulham at the top of his voice and the Reds scattered. Shows you what you can do after 10 pints of Guinness with RamRod chasers!
posted by Tony R (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 9:38 AM
Mind you, I think Harry the dog of the Milwall running on his own from one end of Villa Park to take on the whole of the Holt (home ) End on his own . After diving in, fists flying , he’s rescued by the police who felt sorry for him and returned him to the Milwall faithful rather than eject him.
posted by Keetch54 - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 10:27 AM
Santilis had the big ice cream parlour on North End Road for many years. My dad said there was some rumour about him being involved in a Football Pools scam. Claimed that’s how they got there money, don’t know how true, but they didn’t appear to have been charged with anything. Rumour and gossip added to o the picture in those days. Then again, still does.
posted by Realistic (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 10:33 AM
Was not the ice cream shop in north end road called scalas !! santilli had a small factory in everington street by the rec!joe santill had a hollywood tache like dick dastardly ,the whole family worked the vans going round streets in summer ,the ice cream best ever tasted any were in the world.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 11:55 AM
Bishop you are absolutely right. I was thinking about that and the lightbulb lit. Was just going to correct but you beat me too it. Well remembered, it took me a while.
posted by Realistic (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 2:22 PM
Pies at FFC used to be hot on the outside & frozen in the middle, used to buy a bovril to thaw them out ! Tea came with traces of coffee & bovril in it, coffee with tea & bovril & bovril with tea & coffee. Hamburgers usually gave you the squits, found out why eventually.... Then AlF came in & it improved. Think the great plague started in the Hammersmith end gents toilet, perhaps that was where the food was stored between games ?
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 3:45 PM
Thought scalas and santilles were related
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Friend who works at Airport tells me people from all over the world still coming in unchecked over a thousand yesterday
What would they check them with? We don’t even have enough test kits for the front line doctors and nurses. I guess they could check their temperature but that’s not really conclusive and where would they quarantine them!!? But I agree with your point that surely there should be some elementary checks on people coming into the country!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 11:15 AM
If we have no ability to check people who come threw our Airports a part from bring our residents home. They should be closed like everything else
posted by DMK (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 12:10 PM
The government have made a right pigs ear of this virus .
posted by Matt (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 2:46 PM
Anybody seen any ppe kits , cos sure as hell the nhs haven’t !
posted by Norm (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 4:55 PM
There is an under lining thing about it all. More laws being passed. Hiding behind this virus scare. There was a full page about it in the Times Saturday. Giving the government more unprecedented powers.
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:35 PM
I've ordered an away PPE kit.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Wednesday 01st April 2020, 3:47 PM
I've ordered an away PPE kit. All the home kits have sold out
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All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth, my three front fours, my five front sevens.
Amusing story in today's paper. A man and his wife were having breakfast in the kitchen and to cheer his wife up said I'll get a map of the world and pin it on the wall.You throw a dart at it and wherever it lands we will take a holiday there once the virus has gone. Problem seems to be what to pack in your suitcase when your spending your holiday behind the fridge.
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 1:44 PM
I need a runner!
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I find it very disturbing that some of of posters have gone missing. We have not heard from Owenfor a number of weeks and even those of you who often criticised his posts have expressed concerned. During this critical period I would expect everyone would have more time to post their thoughts and views so please keep posting. Come along everyone and it would even be good to be called an Idiot by Impartial. Take care everyone, and may we all survive to once again return the Cottage.
Good post! I hope all missing posters, including OWEN, are safe and well and it is only the absence of freal ootball that they are not on here!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 9:28 AM
I'm still here big boy. I was fatting my farmers, so couldn't get on as often.
posted by Owen (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 9:47 AM
Marbella White on parade from a dismal and scary Spain
posted by Marbella White 1 - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 10:27 AM
There are some new posters including me!
posted by 007 - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 11:04 AM
Not convinced that is THE Owen...
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 11:13 AM
It's not Owen you can tell because this poster has signed in as a 'guest' and the real Owen is registered like I am.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 12:04 PM
I'm still around at the moment, and I do look at the our site on a daily basis, but apart from covid-19, there is not much more to talk about, which is a crying shame.
posted by A C (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 12:51 PM
I do hope OWEN is okay. Not convinced by this imposter! A week or so ago, there was some concern about his wearabouts but he posted and then dropped off radar again. So I’ll take that as a good sign
posted by David (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 12:57 PM
Got a call from the club tdy asking if I was ok or needed any help - I don’t but was well received
posted by Keetch54 - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 1:02 PM
Keetchy, I hear that really old people get called more than once. MST was called 5 times yesterday and 4 times today.
posted by Marbella White 1 - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 5:06 PM
Has ffc phoned you five times Charlotte being the young lady
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:30 PM
Well played
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:57 PM
Not owen only two sentences !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:37 PM
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Monday 30th March 2020, 4:35 PM

weve had the best now wot about the wurst ,,,mines ,,, webster , in goal, salvage bocanegra , chennel , storey , at the back ,. horne , greenaway , wn bullivant , midfield ,.large , gilroy , brian dear ,up front
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posted by Chris of Jokes - Monday 30th March 2020, 4:47 PM
As the song goes , Horne was a colourful character !
posted by Paul (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 5:50 PM
Don't agree with Gilroy'sinclusion. He was pretty good tho didn't score too many goals.
posted by 007 - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 11:06 AM
Used to like the Greek fella we had past his best Bit annoying to opposing teams ! What a player when he was younger
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:35 PM
posted by Keetch54 - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 2:51 PM
Someone at the club tried to impress on him what the atmosphere would be like at Fulham vs Chelsea and he should prepare himself. He laughed and pointed out he had played in Inter Milan vs AC Milan at the San Siro, and that, he said, was a real derby.
posted by Keetch54 - Thursday 02nd April 2020, 2:58 PM
Ah karagounis. !he certainly knew how to wind up the opposition loved when he came on good player wish we could have got him earlier in his career .
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 05th April 2020, 10:41 PM
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John (Guest)

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Monday 30th March 2020, 1:58 PM

One more question to the guys who gave me info about Netflix. Will I be able to listen to any of the Goon shows. Their insanity will hopefully help me get through mine. Ta
I doubt it to be honest. Most of which is on Netflix is either made by and for Netflix or is a series from terestial TV or a particular genre of film.

Geezer would love it as there is loads of good film noir and foreign material ;0). Don't be put off though as that accounbts for about 5% and there are literally thousands of series' and films. I recommend the following:

After Life
The English Game
The Stranger

But there are many, many, many, may more that I have watched and enjoyed and mostly Netfix originals....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 30th March 2020, 2:52 PM
oh and inside Bill's brain an absolute must watch three part documentary about Bill Gates.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 30th March 2020, 2:55 PM
He’s right on this John - loads of content, but particularly good for box-sets (UK/US/EU) there’s something for everyone in a huge catalogue covering fictional/factual. Like I said yesterday, just sign up for the free trial
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 3:17 PM
Cheers Flap- on my way
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 3:29 PM
Just watched the first two episodes of Breaking Bad. Seems quite good, quite a few more to watch so should keep me busy during isolation!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Monday 30th March 2020, 3:59 PM
you might find BBC do have Goons on one of thier stations.
posted by brian longhurst. (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 4:48 PM
John, further to your original question - if you go to Audible.co.uk you can get a free 30 trial. It's an Amazon company and will therefore be able to access all the Goons shows. This in conjunction with Netflix will ensure you are not bored during lock down!!
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 5:17 PM
john theres a knocking at the door min.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 6:09 PM
haha get it Geezer - just doing my bit for the community!!
posted by Flapjack (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 6:39 PM
Once again thanks Flap. Look forward to hearing Neddy Seegoon again
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 8:08 PM
Looks like " tales of old Dartmoor" is available on u tube Geezer. Don't come much better than that episode
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 30th March 2020, 8:14 PM
Also Round the Horn - available on 4 Comedy - Rambling Sid Rumpo, Julian and Sandy, and Dame Celia Molestangler and ageing juvenile Dinky Huberback
posted by Keetch54 - Monday 30th March 2020, 8:19 PM
Journey in to space. Workers play time. And i still listen to the Archers.
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Tuesday 31st March 2020, 6:51 PM

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