Played ? Or just on the pitch ? Vastly overrated .
posted by Timmy (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 2:31 PM Rember many years ago walking through Bishops park cheating to a Man U Supporter about the game and I mentioned how poorly I thought Roony played, the reply was " he is like that most games He is s nowhere near as consistent as Ryan Giggs"
posted by Dave (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 3:03 PM Or even chatting to one !
posted by Dave (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 3:19 PM So have quite a few others including Shilton, Moore, Wright, Lampard and Gerrard
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 9:49 PM

Difficult to answer that one, obviously the modern player is far fitter than those of the past . So just on that alone would agree though 10 goals against Gorden Banks !!!!!!
posted by Dave (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 3:07 PM Fitter yes, faster maybe as skilful never. Matthews, Finney, Moore, Franklin, Haynes, Greaves and Peters to name a few.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 9:54 PM

You couldn't write it. A movie in the offing?
posted by Hints (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 9:40 PM

Touch of the Neymar or Ronaldo about Sterling no question about his talent and work rate but I don't see any affection for the teams he plays for rather the emotion he shows comes from his desire to win which is not the same thing as love for the badge.
posted by Tezza - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 4:56 PM Not many footballers are loyal these days Rich. Watching that game, Stirling was constantly bumped and barged and booed. He was a bit naughty when he clipped Van Dyke towards the end of that game, but Van the man is a big boy, he can handle that. It is all about head games when a rival player comes back to Liverpool and they got into Sterlings head. Call that one-nil and put the guy off as much as possible and it worked! Did Southgate make the right call in dropping Stirling? It is only a good decision if Kane or whoever comes up with goals. Joe Gomez to score? Very unlikely. They say that Man City buy titles which is true up to a point. Funny they still missed Kompany who is not necessarily the best defender but still very vital to their campaign. Some would say that Wolves bought their way from the Championships and Fulham have the might of the prem payments and prem ready players, according to the Birmingham boss.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 6:39 PM Don’t see how you can say sterling’s antics were racist more a desire to win and rightly or wrongly reacting to some rough treatment and wind ups from players and crowd historically. Not a fan of his antics and comments in his early career but turned his life and his attitude around enjoy watching him play now and we know his heart is in the right place
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 10:06 PM Just because Sterling is black do you have to detect a racist element to everything relating to him? Perhaps you should look closer to for kneejerk racism
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 10:05 AM Not one to defend sterling but don’t throw in the race card this was a team and fans winding him up and he bit !!!!
posted by Leni (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 5:49 PM

OWEN I confess I rarely rad your posts right to the end but I'm so glad I did this time it did make me smile. Christie is a very, very decent human being from everything I read but I remain unconvinced at his ability to play at this level. AK is a knob on and off the field and should be shunted at the earliest opportunity. If we got 5 bob for him it would be a result.
posted by Doris (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 11:07 PM With you 100% Doris.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 2:55 PM Don’t get the Roy Keane bit. Doris 100% from me.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 6:39 PM With you 10% Doris
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 9:33 PM Bloody hell 3 x 100% I might retire right here right now... :-)
posted by Doris (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 9:42 PM Only 99% from me cos you woz late with my supper .
posted by Hubby (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 9:44 PM

The “ Ox in the box .........”
posted by Keetch54 - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 1:25 PM

How could you leave Jim Stannard out of that list?
posted by Keeper of the Flame (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 12:36 PM Best squad combination was Schwarzer and Stockdale. Hard to pick best keeper, they don't seem to stick around long enough to live in the memory. Macedo 346 Appearances is hard to argue with - not that i saw him play
posted by Pez (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 12:41 PM Stannard 389 apps, again before my time though
posted by Pez (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 12:42 PM Van Der Sar closely followed by Gerry Peyton imo.
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 12:58 PM Van Der Sar by a long chalk was Fulhams best keeper. There is no better keeper that can throw the ball out accurately from defence to attack. The safer option now is to lob it out underarm to the nearest defender which is not always a sign of confidence.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 1:19 PM Saved 2 pens same game against Aston Villa if I remember correctly.
posted by Keetch54 - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 1:27 PM No contest Edwin Gerry Peyton peaked while with us fantastic spell Remember the two villa saves don’t know what mo done to get Edwin to sign for us think he could have chosen virtually anybody to play for Macedo was the first keeper I saw at fffc so agile. Personal favourite of mine Jim stannard used to see him before some home games in one of the local shops !!!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 2:12 PM The worst there’s been s long list !!!!! Not naming any names because they had the good of the club at heart
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 2:14 PM Len Stan Bowles & Don Shanks played for us in a local pool league, cant see that happening with todays players
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 2:36 PM Gotta be EVS for me. Schwartzer was great but surprised to see no mention of Maik Taylor. He was part of the amazing promotion team and was very solid. Always felt bad for his shafting too. But at least he was shafted for the worlds greatest keeper... not Rico or Fabri
posted by David (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 3:10 PM Ian Seymour
posted by BAZ (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 3:14 PM There have been some very good players mentioned here. Some were incredibly loyal, brave and hard working. But when all is said and done we got a player in 2001 who was defiantly in the top 5 in the world in there position and only came because Buffon took his place and Juventus, will we ever be able to do deals for that type of player again ? He stayed with us for 4 years which is a fair amount of time . He may have been our most expensive goalkeeper at £7 million but we have spent that much before and got nothing. EVS was our best Goalie by far.
posted by Tezza - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 4:50 PM Ken Hewkins?
posted by Keetch54 - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 5:01 PM John “ Jack “ Mclelland !
posted by Norfolk Enchants (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 5:10 PM Ian Black? :))
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 5:54 PM Blimey Keetch, I’d completely forgotten Ken Hewkins. That must have been late 50s, South African if I remember correctly. Went to Celtic or Rangers, or somewhere in Scotland.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 6:00 PM Hewkins played for Clyde before us .
posted by Tim (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 6:20 PM Peter Mellor .
posted by Ben Twilley (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 6:27 PM Enough said.
posted by Maik Taylor (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 6:52 PM Morty - Have been going since 1961 and he was No. 2 to Macedo then. Not sure when he left.
posted by Keetch54 - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 7:53 PM Norfolk E Jack M no but i did get his autgraph as a kid.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 8:11 PM Ben Peter M, watched him in 1975 & a big no JMO.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 8:22 PM Dave Underwood
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 8:52 PM Ted Hinton
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 9:01 PM Some of the keepers mentioned there we certainly had our share of crackers !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 9:54 PM black
posted by moreline (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 2:12 PM Perry Digweed anyone?
posted by Keetch54 - Thursday 14th November 2019, 3:38 PM

Regarding the kit think it’s down to kit supplier or sponsor,as far as Rodak is concerned think he’s earned his place with a great display at Birmingham where as there keeper possibly cost them the points.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 6:38 AM Parker should have introduced Rodak much sooner, especially after his Southampton performance. Bettinelli has shown to have attitude and indeed and capability problems and has cost us points. I for one am glad Marek has been given the shirt. It' now up to Bettinelli to win it back if he's up for the challenge.
posted by mwk (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 8:27 AM If I was Betts I would have an attitude problem after the way he got shafted upon promotion. Remember he was leading the Wembley celebrations.
posted by David (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 10:55 AM Neither are good enough for the Prem so makes sense to find a keeper that is!
posted by Picky (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 11:14 AM I agree with you David, where are Fabri and Sergio Rico now!!I would be p****d of to. Should have kept Neil Etheridge with (hindsight) but thats FFC all over.
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 11:30 AM Most successful clubs get the right keeper in and they stay, i think we've used about 20 keepers since the year 2000. With Betts I could see him being with us for life but instead we will have the same merry go round we always have. Our club culture is terrible. Hopefully Rodak and Betts will push each other on and improve but i want a settled team of young players kept together for a lengthy amount of time and see where it takes us
posted by Pez (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 12:09 PM Have been singing Rodek praises for some time now, hopefully he will become the envy of many clubs.
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 12:59 PM I second that Kunye'. All the soft sentimental fans didn't see our wasted points tally building up with betonelli in goal. Not saying Radak is the finished article and prem quality, he needs to keep improving. There was always a nervousness when Betonelli splayed the ball around if thats the right word and his constant slow the game down approach which puts doubts into players heads to run or walk in what direction. I don't think that Betonelli knows why or when to kick or rush. There is no anxiety felling with Rodak if that makes sense.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 1:13 PM Heed the advice to Bet on nelli , but please advise meeting and race time
posted by Enfield (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 5:24 PM We've had a number of good, excellent and world class keepers since I've been going to the Cottage. Macedo was excellent but had his crazy moments. He pulled off a save at the Putney end that was bound for the top right hand corner, an almost unstoppable rocket, arriving from nowhere six feet off the ground and parallel to it to fingertip the ball around the post for a corner. A few minutes later Keetch gave him a simple backpass from outside the box which he let slide through his legs and trickle over the line. Great to watch and a great servant to the club. Peyton was excellent too, commanding and steady but the accolade for best must be between VDS and Schwartzer and I wouldn't like to pick between them. Bettinelli is a good keeper with potential, but no more than that.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 6:14 PM

VAR is a symptom of our society, when now no one is prepared to accept the decisions that are made by the match officials. The players cheat - dive and take our money for substandard performances. While I agree not everything was better in the 1950's or 1960's, but players never seemed to get injured so badly, could converse with one another in our common English language - and I've heard so great banter over the years from the players and fans at the Cottage. By the way we did win the World Cup in 1966 with an team composed of English players! VAR is a blight on football and stops the free flowing of a game that is now probably played too fast anyway. What would Bobby Moore have made of the pace Liverpool and City play at then they on song?
posted by Rich of Cambridge (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 9:11 PM Of course all the players in England's 1966 world cup team were English, thats why were called England !!!
posted by deadlyden - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 1:18 AM Lol , Bobby didn’t have any problem with Jairzinho in 1970 !
posted by Tim (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 7:29 AM VAR is a logical consequence of the generation of spoilt brats who insist everything must be perfect and cannot deal with anything going against them. Although sport is meant to be all about winning , the true purpose is to learn how to lose and get over it, learn your lesson and move on. As Beckett said, "fail again, fail better". Learning to accept a setback in a trivial activity such as sport better equips you to deal with real issues such as losing your job, wife etc... VAR could be useful for dealing with outrageous injustices such as Thierry Henri's handball v Ireland, Jeff Astle's goal v Leeds of Maradanna's hand of God but in the final analysis it's worth remembering it's not the end of the World, just possibly the end of the World Cup
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 10:13 AM Wish I could install VAR in my house, I married Mrs Right, just didn't realise her real first name was always.
posted by Punned it (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 11:13 AM Sorry Punned happy wife happy life
posted by Will (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 11:53 AM Errrm, you missed two jokes there Will.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 6:16 PM

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posted by PC Brigade (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 2:37 PM Yes!
posted by The Black Watch (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 2:42 PM Nope .
posted by Tom (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 2:50 PM Yes!
posted by Uncle Tom (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 2:58 PM A big no .
posted by Uncle Tom's uncle (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 5:01 PM Cha Man... YES!
posted by Ras Michael (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 7:21 PM Hear Diane Abbot is trying to get White Christmas banned.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 7:54 PM Great movie , watched it this afternoon. Maybe she should watch the horror movie , Black Christmas.
posted by Timmy (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 7:58 PM That would be a black day!
posted by General Smuts (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 8:17 PM A pathetic attempt at trolling Old Man River!
posted by The troll (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 9:21 PM Old Man River just keeps trolling along ...
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 9:54 PM Nice one Mr Zonan. I like your style.
posted by Mrs Ippi (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 11:10 AM Well done Arizonan!... And the sheep followed!!
posted by The Kentuckian (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 12:52 PM Trolling, trolling, trolling, keep those dogies trolling, rawhide.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 9:39 PM

Oh my god. The bloody snowflake patrol. So sick of you old men complaining the whole time. Please accept our generations collective apology for being born in a different era to you, an era with better technology and health and safety standards. For the record I would like to keep heading in the game and doubt it will be removed but please stop blaming younger people for everything you disagree with. It’s boring. In fact it’s probably scientists your age finding links between brain conditions and heading anyway.
posted by David (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 12:02 PM Never let it be said that this site is for comments about FFC only. Enjoy reading letters on different subjects - keep it up lads !
posted by Dave (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 12:44 PM Wonder if this is the same Rich of Cambridge who posted a totally idiotic rant about Emilio Sana a few days ago. What is wrong with these people who detect weakness and "Snowflakes" in every attempt to make the world better. He probably thinks seat belts in cars and helmets for motorcyclists are a sell out to a "gay, left conspiracy". Sadly too many of these idiots who are unable to adapt to the modern world feel obliged to drag us back to the good old days when open coal fires were the greatest cause of death but to campaign for clean air would probably cause you to be called a snowflake. All these morons who complain about health and safety should be excluded from the NHS as they seem to prefer sickness and danger. Let's go back to the days of heading heavy leather balls, head high tackles in rugby, regular deaths in motor racing, when men were men and felt entitled to beat the crap out of anyone they didn't like.
posted by Fair Player (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 12:48 PM Totally with you there Fair player. What is "politically correct" about trying to eliminate serious injury and life long disability from an activity that is only meant to be a bit of fun. What is wrong with people who try to prevent cruelty to animals? Without them we would still have bear baiting, cock fighting etc. by the way the same brave miners who went down the mines only did it because there was no other employment available and I wonder if they complained about the men who campaigned for pit safety, and called them snowflakes for wanting better hours and conditions and life expectancy. The world is getting better and you can't keep up. Deal with that and leave the rest of us alone you sad old git
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 1:01 PM Fair play, fair player
posted by A Snowflake (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 1:09 PM Sure we would all agree that Political correctness in most cases makes sense. It's when they decide that all sport especially football and rugby must have females to be included in the list of pundits, and of course it " must" be correct to no longer be able to call it a blackboard - no now it's a chalking board the list is endless, And as for the Elf n safety brigade its no conkers for you lads and now the poor little sods can only touch hands when playing tag in the playground !
posted by Dave (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 1:36 PM Most excessive "Elfen Safety" is driven by a fear of being sued in this evermore litigious society, not by a bunch of well meaning interfering snowflakes
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 1:58 PM Being a "snowflake" is not a generational thing; it's a limp-wristed affectation that affects the mentally incontinent of all ages. What is strange however is how Old Bloke and Fair Play turn up at the same time.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 3:23 PM So if your definition is correct, how does trying to improve conditions and avoid long term damage and mental illness qualify you as limp wristed and mentally incontinent?
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 4:02 PM Make people aware of the dangers inherent in all walks of life by all means, but don't legislate against their free will to choose their own path through the acceptance of risk. The nanny state has gone way too far in dictating what's best for the plebian hordes and then insisting that we conform to their sanctimonious way of thinking.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 4:16 PM You assume that most people know what's best for themselves when the evidence clearly shows they don't. There's a fine line to be drawn between individual freedoms and and protecting people from themselves. I agree it can sometimes seems a bit overindulgemt but if you look back at the opposition to safety measures introduced ages ago and try to imagine life without them now you'll see that the "nanny state" is more often than not shown to be have been right
posted by Old bloke (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 4:30 PM Shown to be right or not, it's still a dictatorial philosophy that brooks no dissent, a very "cultish" trait. The ever intruding cult of Health & Safety is driven by those who are invariably risk averse in their own lives and wish to impose their superior judgement on all others. Advise and educate by all means, but refrain from imposition of often flawed concepts on those who choose to educate themselves and think accordingly.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 4:44 PM Another subject we touched on was fireworks - now that the firework season seems to be over till next year,read a letter from a Bosnia war veteran who found rhe loud ( very loud) explosions bought back bad memories for him and wondered if the very loud fireworks should be available from shops,in the old days November 5th was the only night you heard them, now pet owners have to endure weeks of noise which affects their animals. So the question is should people be able to get their hands on them or are they snow flakes and just have learn to live with it?
posted by Dave (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 6:14 PM I can as an old geezer see both sides of this, we don’t want anyone to suffer with injuries in any sport, football however is a contact sport and some players made a decent career by being good in the air. I must say though the risks now have been drastically reduced by the game itself. Today’s style is not to allow the keepers to lump it up the pitch for the centre forward to flick it on with his head, this means the centre halves have less heading to do. Corners and free kicks are usually played short, unless it’s in the last five or ten minutes and teams are trying to win and throw everyone up the park. Footballers knew what they were signing up for, it’s a physical game. It is part and parcel of the game. Over the years the safety of footballers has been improved a lot, lighter footballs, lighter boots, better surfaces, superior medical staff at clubs (no more muddy water and a rotten magic sponge if you got a knock), better diets, better training and fantastic rewards. Anything that can be done to keep people, in any walk of life safe is fantastic and should be applauded, however, it must be done with everyone in mind. As a fully paid up member of the old gits gang I can remember looking forward to watching centre forwards who excelled in the air, most teams had one, they also had a tough bloke at the back. Health and safety will keep improving but it will be done over a period of time. Let’s just hope it’ doesn’t affect the the game too much.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 6:34 PM I'm not resistant to change when there's compelling reasons to make a change, either in law or in attitude, but there has to be an element of common sense which is often lacking. The overriding concern in many cases of "nanny knows best" is the fear of what might happen, not what has happened or what may indeed happen in rare cases. I'm sure some kids have suffered eye damage from playing conkers but without hard data it's difficult to justify banning the game thus penalising the many for the sake of the (undocumented) few. This same fear manifests itself in the Brexit debate where no amount of reasoned debunking eliminated the bogeyman lurking under the bed. As somebody noted above, one of the major H&S drivers is the fear of being sued and I accept that as a genuine concern that the powers that be might better spend their time addressing than trying to deconflict everything to the point where all risk is eliminated and life is sanitized to the extent of no longer being worth living. Glass of red wine anybody?
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 7:12 PM Good post Ari, can’t have a glass of red until I submit my risk and method statement. Cruelty to grapes may get involved.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 7:29 PM The international break brings on these posts. I had a chuckle. I've just had red meat and a beer. Guess I don't qualify as a snowflake any more because I spend my life doing stuff rather than on Instagram. Old git territory awaits me and I'll be put in my place by some keyboard toting smart @rse in the future. What joy! Posting in peace and genuinely amused.
posted by The troll (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 9:16 PM Enjoy it TT, equilibrium is a very transient state. Dave's question on fireworks and their availability is an interesting philosophical dilemma. The chap suffers from combat-induced PTSD. Seeking some relief from random percussive type noises he's wondering why he, and the rest of humanity, have to endure the drawn-out celebration of a "one day" event with flash bang devices that would probably warrant an ASBO at any other time of year. He has a point: November 5th should be celebrated on November 5th. To my mind this doesn't qualify him for snowflake status; quite the reverse. The true snowflakes in this instance are those who live their lives without regard for others and without any cognition of societal norms unless it affects them personally. Which probably illustrates that there is such a condition as being a macho snowflake.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 9:52 PM The one constant unsaid throughout this post is responsibility. No one takes responsibility for their own actions these days, someone else is always to blame lest they are sued by some silver tongued lawyer who's out to make a name for himself a blight on the whole of society.
posted by Doris (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 4:18 AM Where’s my breakfast ?
posted by Doris,s husband (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 7:32 AM I agree with you @ari, still enjoying the equilibrium. Personal responsibility is key too. Guess I'm going soft in my old age if I'm agreeing with you all!
posted by The troll (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 7:57 AM I live under the shadow of grenfeld. The residents asked for better fire protection for years and the Ken and Chelsea council ignored them. I think Arizona it’s not the risk adverse vs risk takers but the haves vs have not.
posted by Charlie (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 1:14 PM So close you can’t even spell it right , it’s GRENFELL .
posted by Matt (Guest) - Thursday 14th November 2019, 7:15 AM

Would have thought one marine would have been more than enough !
posted by Dave (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 8:00 PM Put the ruinous scoundrel in the stocks and throw rotten cabbages and fruit at him i say, or a good racking will make him feel 10 feet tall, just like that Reed fella in the fantastic 4...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 8:01 PM ‘ Ruinous Scoundrel ‘. Hahaha, exactly how old are you Owen? Surely that expression was last used by Will Shakespeare:))
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 8:19 AM

Obnoxious person to put it politely !!!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 6:18 PM Thanks but no thanks !
posted by Dave (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 7:29 PM

Where have you been?? You could ask why we don’t play with lead weight balls like back in the fifties and sixties! Surely wearing gloves Is common sense and will always be better than bare hands! Surely! Reason: people are smarter with time!
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 2:27 PM More grip of course, but also not part of the official kit and therefore open to sponsorship.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 11th November 2019, 4:09 PM Not sure why the outfield players wear them , snowflakes ?
posted by Staines not so massive (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 4:24 PM Might have a problem with their extremities !
posted by Ray Naud (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 5:14 PM Be better off with willy warmers then ...
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 11th November 2019, 5:39 PM Don’t get that cold down south (!!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 6:27 PM I've been to Battersea. Bloody freezing. That's why they built the power station.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 11th November 2019, 6:46 PM Ok so they wear gloves for more grip I can understand that but back in the days of no gloves, Bonnetti, Banks, Stepney and further back than I can remember, goalkeepers used to catch the ball. They did this regardless whether they were diving or coming for crosses whereas the trend these days is to punch or parry, you rarely see a goalie catch the ball these days...
posted by Hints (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 10:38 PM Interesting point but I think that was always the continental way. I thought Rico was an excellent shot stopper but can't remember him ever catching the ball in the air. Stay safe Hints. Looks like you might be in for a really bad day.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 11th November 2019, 11:28 PM Thanks Ari 36C and strong winds make it very nasty, Just waiting for the southerly buster which will drop the temp but fan the flames.
posted by Hints - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 7:32 AM I was a goalkeeper in my younger days, and I had the pleasure of playing in goal for Sutton United for a couple of seasons, and it was in the days of lace up footballs, and I only wore gloves on the odd occasion in very wet weather, and these were made of wool. in 99% of games if having a busy day, my fingers would really sting with some hard shots, and I tell you what, if I had been able to wear gloves in all games, I feel that I would have been a far better keeper than I was, as I would have had more confidence, and I wasn't that bad anyway.
posted by Malden Mick (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 7:54 AM Would not like to be that coalman with his horse and cart !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 10:34 AM See I told you there would be a reaction, all I asked was when did gloves become the norm? was there a particular season or just bit by bit players wore them.
posted by Albert rn (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 2:07 PM Late 1940s .
posted by Timmy (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 2:54 PM Well you got the southerly change alright Mate. I've got a girlfriend living a mile on the Taree side of Old Bar and I'm mega worried.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 3:29 PM Playing keeper for Sutton is a big accomplishment Mick. I'm impressed.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 7:37 PM

Been away for a while where’s MST ???
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 9:53 AM MST lost patience with the lunatic fringe Len. You’ve missed some top quality discussions, I jest!! Nothing to do with football. Anyway MST decided enough was enough, doubtless he will return, difficult for him not to have an opinion....and air it:)) Hope so, he was always a good initiator of football related discussions.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 1:35 PM Thanks mortlake. Can’t see him staying away bet he’s busting a gut ( mention brexit or say how marvellous. Ryan sess was )cmon MST anyway ARIS. missing you !!!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 4:10 PM Yep, and a good moderator too.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 11th November 2019, 4:10 PM Hmmm. That's very questionable Ari. Anyway, yes our defence is very iffy but actually, seems we played much better than the stats suggested at the weekend. Could have had 2 or 3 goals by the end. But our defence has needed investment for a while. It's a shame spurs dragged the sess deal out for so long, The plan was to invest in defence afterwards, which we did with Hector but weren't able to register him in time. Think we need to stop being the spurs feeder club. Never get a good deal, they turn the players heads and run the clock down to the wire.
posted by David (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 4:20 PM Ari wasn't talking about defence his point was about MST which, I agree with btw. T'was Rich (sometimes Rick) of Cambridge....
posted by Marbella White 1 - Monday 11th November 2019, 5:09 PM I have supported FFC for 64 years through the thick and (sometimes very) thin years. I really enjoy this website and the informed and bizarre comments are all part of it. In your local when the pub bore starts you can move to the other end of the bar and talk to people who aren’t interested in the conceited opinions of some knowall. On this website you have to scroll down past any posts from so-called MST moderator. If he's gone - good riddance!
posted by Devon Steve (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 5:41 PM C'mon Steve; tell us how you really feel.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 11th November 2019, 6:00 PM Was he a moderater never answered my question when asked !!! Anyway if anybody can get him back you! Can !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 6:22 PM Ignore Steve MST we miss you !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 6:24 PM From a user interface perspective this site has its problems but we're all used to it. Without adopting Sam's login dexterity you are known by your logged-in username or shown as a "guest" but cannot have multiple usernames. MST, like all mods, is entitled to his opinions just like the rest of us and that's as it should be for as long as his personal opinions don't override his equanimity and adherance to fair play. In my view he comes as close to meeting this impossible yardstick as any mod I've seen. This site is essentially self-moderating and it's seldom moderator action is taken in terms of wielding the "delete" stick. Given that there are two moderators, both part time, it's inevitable that objectional posts get through the net, either because the mods haven't got around to reading it or because they deem the post borderline and decide against censoring it. We all take the p"ss out of the Old Man at regular intervals, especially Len, but I suspect most are comfortable with his light touch even if his personal opinions are sometimes at odds with his position as Moderator (acting, unpaid).
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 11th November 2019, 7:03 PM Quite agree Ari, don’t always agree with the old bu*ger but he does stimulate discussions, which I enjoy reading. Would like to see him back. Would just like to add that I think the ‘ owners’ of the site appear to moderate sometim s, in addition to Baz and MST. I reckon on balance an even hand is used.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 7:54 PM MST' is okay. He is doing his chill-out cool-dude, man over 40's thing in the Dean Forest. We all know how it is' beating that drum and whistling dixie on one leg. It's called finding one's self. Trust me' he will be chomping at the bit and back in no-time.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 7:56 PM Ooh ARI. That hurt. !!!! Would I extract the urine. Out of MST !!!!! Come MST come back by saturday I’m off to aus. For 3 months hope you come back before I go
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 10:41 AM David PLEASE no more " could haves", the harsh fact is we didn't
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 12:51 PM Most places in Oz have indoor plumbing now Len AND the Internet. Thankfully means we won't be deprived of your razor-sharp wit.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 3:38 PM Have you ever been to Perth !!! They havent!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 12th November 2019, 10:06 PM Had a meeting many years ago with the Mayor and the City Manager of Perth. After we wound the business aspect up they invited me for a beer. Walking down the road from City Hall I was asked what I thought of Perth. Very nice, I said, but where's the city center? This is it, said the Mayor. Ooops.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 2:00 AM It’s been my experience think they turn the lights of and go to bed about 11 o’clock in Perth. ( and it’s full of northerners ) !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 10:52 AM By the way Devon bob if you read this hope you are well will say hi to rockinham for you and have a beer or to on the foreshore for old times sake hope to see you in new year. ( will be watching when possible. Afternoon games no problem evening games early morning
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 13th November 2019, 10:59 AM

We had a good game against them and i think we protested about a foul or something. Salah ran down the field and scored. The saying goes, keep your focus on the game. Guardiola doth protest too much methinks and his team sort of replicates his feelings on the field. If that penalty was given, it would have been a different game and City would have been in the driving seat. The loss of Kompany was the loss of leadership on the pitch and it shows. Liverpool have Van Dyke which makes a big difference.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 9:41 PM Who says they would have scored a pen. Great to see a team that have nothing to do with football getting stuffed and they were stuffed. They can’t buy the Champs League or hopefully ours and the owners get bored and go.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 11:24 PM Personally think the khans are similar...more money than sense Largest wage bill in championship by a country mile and preventing any real chance of progressing out of our academy If city aren’t a foot a club we aren’t either...except their manager is better
posted by Dt (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 8:43 AM Phil try counting up what Liverpool have spent starting with Van Dyke ,Allison the goalkeeper a pittance at £72m etc etc also Man U , Chelsea etc Pep was Man City ‘s best signing
posted by Fulham supporter (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 12:57 PM Pep been doing a bit of a mourinho/ferguson in the buildup to the game which i think was unlike him. The city player handles it accidentally but puts the ball in the mixer, isnt alexander arnold sticking his hand up to appeal for the handball and then it strikes his arm. Personally if i was the ref then i would have given handball against the city player and stopped the game but then we wouldn't have seen that strike from fabinho, what a goal
posted by Pez (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 1:06 PM Regarding our game there for a start the move started with a free kick which would not have counted var. taken refer to var again moving ball all academic now !!!!! with a moving ball
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 4:00 PM That being our league game at Liverpool !!!!!!! Last season
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 4:13 PM

Glad you mention Christie played well today about time fans got off his back he’s big strong and quick crossing not always great ( was good today) but a lot of our crossing had been bad moaning before he’s kick a ball don’t help
posted by Badger (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 9:18 PM Watching the game i must praise Rodek. some great saves and his decisive positioning and distribution played a major part in our victory.
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 11:24 PM part of a our problem is not having a decent right back. in our first 10-12 games almost all our goals came from the right (opposition attacking young Sess). Parker changed a few things like putting 3 at the back, which back-fired horribly and followed by Odoi. Opposition start attacking from our left and the Bryan gets injured and as we know Les Merchand just doesn't have the pace or awareness for Premier league or even championship. If Christie can come back and be our solid right back and Bryan comes back, we might have to get us through until January. I think all our expectation that we will score and win by 3-4 goals have gone - so anything to nick a win and keep us without touching distance of the top 2, I'd take it!
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 10:47 AM Nice posts .Having just watched the match ( sorry I couldn't be there !) let's leave Christie at right back and dare I say leave Odoi at left back . Reid get's himself in great positions thought he was unlucky not to score a couple but can't work out what SP sees in Onomah I'm not even sure what position he is supposed to play ! anyway well done FFC a real workman like performance .
posted by FULHAM SUPPORTER (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 12:08 PM I hate to say it , we played well without Cairney . Don’t think this sort of game would have suited him
posted by Staines not so massive (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 2:09 PM Meant to say this game would not have suited him
posted by Staines not so massive (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 2:11 PM Next 4 games 3 at home 12 points to play for all against decent teams 9 points would be a very good return
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 8:07 AM

A couple of nice posts . Kamara will get a chance next time FFC play because Mitro is suspended . Christie should start at right back because he is a natural full back and also adds height to the back line . Odoi is versatile and should start on the bench but he is too slow for running up and down the wing from full back positions I have always thought he would be better in front of the back four but what do I know ! Week done today Coyw’s
posted by Fulham Supportet (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 9:16 PM Good post. They are well organised and don’t play out as we did, do, which is our undoing. They use their frontmen better than we do.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 9:49 PM Funny time to write this post Fulham showed all that at Birmingham your a week late (even moan when we win)
posted by Badger (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 8:32 AM yes, they have a great teamwork mentality. However, I am sure many said the same thing about Huddersfield town the season they got promoted - look what happened 24months later...at the end of the day, you will need quality to sustain in the premier league! We went for quality (on paper anyway) but forgot about the team work! Villa seem to be striking a decent balance which long term is more sustainable.
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 10:53 AM Have you seen the table and watched villa !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 7:19 PM Badger - we should be top 2 with our quality. Clearly you weren’t at WBA, Forest or Hull.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 11:28 PM Agree with comment about Odoi, I think he could do a good job as a screen for the defence. I don't really trust him as a centre back (His slip against QPR in the 2-2 draw 2 seasons ago sticks in the memory).
posted by Pez (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 1:15 PM

owen, chill out!
posted by big gazza (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 12:09 AM The trouble is Owen you think we’re better than we really are,you have to realise that most if not all of our players are decent enough for the championship but quite a long way off premier league standard. We are where we should weather you have Scott Parker,Slavisa or Klop this Squad is well short of top flight ability. So be realistic enjoy being a top half championship team.
posted by Chief (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 8:27 AM Good post chief, afraid there are a lot of " Owens" on this site, as you say we are a decent Championship side which will continue to pick up enough points to finish in the top six or so.Not a great fan of the International break but looking forward to seeing some of our young players perform.
posted by Dave (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 9:27 AM Agree with most points chief, we are a decent side and we should comfortably make the playoffs with the squad we have. With our talisman Mitro-man at the helm no worries. Mitrovic is our prem player who all other teams fear in this division you all have to agree, and the Birmingham boss aired his concerns about Mitro interviewed before the game. Leeds slipped up big-time last season when looking dead serts to go up and you are right, there is no guarantees. My concerns like a lot of Fulham fans is our indifferent form and slips which could cost us dearly right at the end of the season. Christie looks good after 'one' game at right back. We have played out some of these scenarios before with Christie, Joe Bryan, Ream,etc etc. We all know that we need to strengthen our squad in January and so will most teams in the Championship. We will most likely continue with Scott Parker as our manager, but will he take us over the line? It might be okay with you and some fans if we don't make it back to the prem, but at what cost? Seriously, will Mitrovic stay on at Fulham in the Championships? A more experienced manager might seal the deal, there are no guarantees. Keep Parker at fulham and strenghten our squad in January is a big gamble. Can Parker handle it? Fair enough and each to his own. If plans screw up, there will be a lot of 'Owens' who will be searching for answers. If we can stop the inconsistencies and go on a big run of winning games, life will be rose's and daffidils at the Cottage and peaches and cream will be yummy mummy. Good luck Christie and all the rest. Good win at Brum, keep it up!!!!!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 11:46 AM Blimey, the original post was ridiculous but the explanation of it is even worse.
posted by Ray (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 2:18 PM Standing on one leg in the rain and whistling dixie is ridiculous and i might as well be doing that right now instead of posting anything on here.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 9:47 PM AK was not "unlucky" to miss that goal he f@#ked it up royally. My Nan could have slotted that. He is rubbish and always will be, get rid ASAP.
posted by Doris (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 9:53 PM Owen mate, I have seen you post many times and say to other posters that they don’t have to read it. You however don’t do this do you? If anyone disagrees with your posts you immediately spew out another load of childish remarks in an attempt to get your own back. Practice what you preach mate and don’t wind yourself up. Ignore and move on.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 10:04 PM Gaz' i am not winded up. 'Whistling Dixie' I thought that was quite funny myself but there you go...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 7:40 AM There you go
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Monday 11th November 2019, 5:36 PM

We are going to need a bit more than that if we get there- sat here watching Leicester vs Arsenal, and either side would murder us even with a few additions ( which we have tried in the past )
posted by Keetch54 - Saturday 09th November 2019, 7:11 PM Think we need more than a bit more to take on the likes of Arsenal & Leicester
posted by Dave (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 7:42 PM Mitro certainly is a goal machine
posted by Jim (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 8:26 PM Yeah...point was making Keetchy is that Fulham CAN make auto-promos this season... how we perform after getting there is a separate issue! Clearly not at level of top Prem clubs but so are many others in that division. Like to think lessons were learnt last season and once there can remain for many seasons (as before) by way of attracting further proven quality players and our homegrown youth academy players coming through. Nice to have a chairman with deep pockets and with re-development of new stand like to think Fulham Football Club will be moving in right direction! Glass more than half full folks... (Fulham fan for 62 years and counting!) ....COYW!
posted by #ChrisFromCornwall (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 11:22 PM Calm down my old mate!.. If Fulham have any sense they will sell Mitro ASAP and cash in come January transfers.
posted by George (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 7:02 AM Sell the best striker in the championship ? How stupid is that !
posted by Timmy (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 7:34 AM

Seriously what is wrong with people, one result doesn’t make everything alright....let’s put a run of 10 together as we should and then we can start saying Parker is learning his trade.
posted by Joka’s Revenge (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:27 PM Yes to all who called for Parkers head and you know who you are, a big shame on you!
posted by Nick (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 6:47 PM SP GET THIS IDIOT OUT BEFORE ITS TO LATE. The game was shambolic if you idiots believe it was 3 points in the bag you need more medication shocking again 16 games no direction no tactics
posted by DEAN (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 8:17 PM BIG SHAME!!
posted by Nick (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 8:43 PM Joka' i agree. Let's see Scotty put a run together leading up to xmas and i for one will warm to Parker more!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 8:49 PM sorry, its a parker out for me.
posted by big gazza (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 12:10 AM Parker out for me to.
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 11:03 AM This forum is for people to express their opinions and we all know that but surely we can give credit where its due we won and I never thought at any stage that we were not going to. I also noted the away supporters chanting Scott Parkers name so you Parker haters are not in the majority what ever you believe and yes I was there.
posted by Ken.44 (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 3:43 PM ken.44 good on you mate.
posted by big gazza (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 8:47 PM

Well, apart from the fact he got another yellow that is....
posted by Marbella White 1 - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:09 PM Mitro captain, man you have lost the plot. Forwards do not make good captains.take a look at Harry Kane since he was given the job. A good captain leads from the back.
posted by GEORGE (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 6:58 AM

Glad you're spelling your name right these days lol
posted by Marbella White 1 - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:08 PM If we had a decent manager we would be top .
posted by Timmy (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:09 PM Been practising lol
posted by Chief (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:20 PM If we had a couple of decent defenders we’d be top!
posted by Chief (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:23 PM F our fans were not so negative we be top
posted by Badger (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:36 PM you believe your own sh*t more medication parker OUT
posted by dean (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 8:20 PM chief, are you joking, parker out!
posted by big gazza (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 12:11 AM

Looking a little stupid now ain't ya
posted by Sussex Supporter (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 4:15 PM Not at all. Second half we have been better, a bit more of an edge. A bit better was all that was needed against a poor Birmingham.
posted by Joka’s revenge (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 4:41 PM Important 3 points before another wretched international break! It wasn’t great and so much work to do but a result and clean sheet. Birmingham aren’t very good and the result needs to be measured against this.
posted by Joka’s Revenge (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:02 PM I'm with you JR. Only real positive was Rodak's performance. Says a lot when your goalie is your best player. Pleased for Christie, who took his chance and played well.
posted by Little Ern (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:25 PM And agree with you LE
posted by Joka’s Revenge (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 5:29 PM

Absolutely correct Sup. No Cairney either. 20 minutes in and they’re all over us
posted by Californian - Saturday 09th November 2019, 3:28 PM

Not to worry, we've been "looked down"upon by bigger clubs than them !
posted by Dave (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 12:49 PM I can’t bear another day of disappointment!!! Fulham drive you crazy!
posted by John (Guest) - Saturday 09th November 2019, 1:33 PM

How do you fix a woman’s? You don’t . There is a clock on the oven .
posted by Timmy (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 6:13 PM Watch !
posted by Timmy (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 6:23 PM Does your wife miss you much- no she is remarkably accurate for a woman!
posted by Dave (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 6:50 PM

The plans include a Ream & Mawson cafe, serving crab sandwiches. Also a Tom Cairney whine bar, and an AK47 bar serving shots with no effect. There’s a MacDonalds, obviously, serving well aged beef, with Knockaert or Cavaleiro as optional chicken wings. And, of course, Scott’s Bar. For Whom The BELL’S toll.
posted by Simon (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 2:55 PM You bad boy. Brilliant.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 08th November 2019, 11:39 PM What a lovely fantasy (i.e. it won't happen). But we'd surely be the only league club where fans/prawn sandwichers could arrive by boat. Sheer bloody class!
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 7:11 PM I would love a jetty across the old father on the Barnes side I would even pay for it
posted by worple (Guest) - Sunday 10th November 2019, 8:50 PM

Fill it’s the tactics that put our defence under pressure with little cover player for player there no worst than most championship players.
posted by Badger (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 9:19 AM

Sorry I forgot to use the word hostile in my opening line
posted by Malden Mick (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 6:56 AM Not sure that 2-1 is that tasty Bruv !
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 9:42 AM Talking of having a bet. Noticed a horse called Geyser won yesterday,know it's not the moniker of our well known Bro but it strolled home at 80-1!
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 12:55 PM 3 - 1 BRUM
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 8:43 PM

It just disappeared, but I'm sure I saw an advert above for a dating site called shag.co.uk a minute ago ?
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 12:23 AM It’s named after an aquatic species of bird .
posted by Ben Twilley (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 6:32 AM Indeed. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
posted by The Arizonan - Saturday 09th November 2019, 3:27 AM

Forecast.
Played 8 Won 7 Lost 0
posted by Ghost of Johnny Haynes (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 6:58 PM No such things as ghosts, you do not exist !
posted by Jim (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 8:23 PM Perfectly right to show us those stats on Birmingham Badger. Ignore them at our peril like we did the Hull stats. Beating Birmingham away is not a given and it is most unlikely with our form at the moment. I just hope Scott Parker can come up with a gameplan that will turn an away win into victory. Now' that would be tactics from a kindergarden rookie...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 10:42 PM Jim lad, what would you know about the Great Johnny Haynes. He will always live on at Craven Cottage in spirit.
posted by Ghost of Johnny Haynes (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 11:23 PM That would be the Johnny Haynes I saw play in the 1960s , and the same JH I saw kicking off the Hearts v Fulham friendly in July 1999 , so yes , I know all about the maestro !
posted by Jim (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 6:04 AM Truly SP would be a magician if we manage to turn an away win into a victory
posted by The Alchemist (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 8:14 AM Saw the great man make his debut in 50s stevens robson jezzard haynes and mitten,bloody awesome forward line.My wifes brother in law was his golfing partner in south Africa ,a real gent in the truest sense of the word
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 1:33 PM

You can't absolve Parker from all blame but you do have a fair point. The question is how long do you let the malaise continue before taking action? That, I guess, depends to an extent on the club's strategy. Is this a rebuilding year where we establish the core team for coming years or do we really believe that we are in with a chance of promotion, with all the subsequent team upheaval that would bring. The team is aging and only two, maybe three players, are up to minimum Premier League standards. Do we want to blunder into that mess again this soon (or ever)? If however we are in a rebuilding phase then Parker needs to show his plans and intentions for the team of the future, probably through the lens of the January window. So far no signs of this and given the dead hand of Khan junior at the helm, forward thinking and strategic planning are perhaps too much to ask for. If Parker were to be let go which decent and respected manager would be prepared to accept the poisoned chalice? Put another way, any manager willing to take the job is unlikely to have the clout to develop the side and would merely be picking up a pay check until the revolving door spins once more. Yes, you can absolve Parker given the position he's in, and you can force more application to their trade out of the players, but the real problem lies at a much higher level and there appears to be no way of addressing that. I expect Parker to be gone after the next two games if we don't win both and I expect the diabolical standard of play to continue whoever runs the dugout for as long as the real problem, the malign influence of Khan junior, continues.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 7:54 PM What l can say since Parker’s taken over U18s and U23s look a lot better been going backwards since Kit left u21s give him bit more time may all click soon. Will admit my doubts set in after Hull game
posted by Badger (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 8:34 PM Hi Chief, methinks your a bit, no a lot disillusioned. The players play the way that Parker tells them to play. The club took on players in the summer window and cannot take on any more until the January window. The way things are going he will keep us in touch with the bottom of the table, never mind the top. The way we currently play is not the Fulham way. Parker keeps playing non right backs at right back when he has a promising number 2 in Steven Sessignon, who made one mistake and was dropped. The current defence make mistake after mistake and still get picked, why? I will tell you because they play the Parker way passing the ball 20 plus times between them and the keeper while our speedy wingers hang about on the touch line waiting for a pass. Lets start playing the attacking football of 2 years ago which got us to the promised land.
This was the messed up by the non football people at the club buying loads of foreign rubbish and we know where they all are now.
Finally lets get Parker out and an experienced manager in to take us forward.
posted by cravencottage1948 (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 9:49 AM I hate watching the way we play at the moment, you'd need the patience of a saint during those interminable tiki taki sessions. When we pass and move forward (remember Millwal) it's a joy to behold but I don't feel our midfielders have the the speed of thought or vision (esp. Cairney)to achieve that against better opposition. That could be because of a lack of confidence in our defence engenders a paralysing fear of losing possession so the midfield always take the safe option. The solution therefore is to employ a top level defence coach to work with our back four who individually are not bad defenders but need to be better organised and concentrate on defending and getting the ball out to the midfield more quickly
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 11:03 AM Hi Old Bloke, good post but while Parker is there it is unlikely a defensive coach would be taken on. Parker decides on tactics and who works in his coaching staff. What is really needed is a replacement for Parker who has some experience of managing a club with aspirations of staying in the top flight.
posted by cravencottage1948 (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 11:20 AM Not disillusioned just realistic. Foul throws terrible set pieces midfielder not tracking back amongst basic errors/mistakes sure he doesn’t tell them to do that. We have enough quality to stay at least in play off places but these overpaid big time Charlie’s need to show more effort and pride. I’ve been watching home and away for over 40 years and it all comes down to attitude and professionalism of which I’ve not seen that much,think most of our players think there better than they really are so my criticism is aimed at the players once they cross that white line there responsible
posted by Chief (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 11:22 AM Wish Parker was mates with Eddie Howe, might get some tips! Before the season started we knew Scott was an inexperienced coach but if you can see improvements game on game then happy days. I'm not sure that is what we are seeing. Lets just see how we get on in the next game, after every defeat I expect a reaction
posted by Pez (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 1:04 PM Please tell Parker we are allowed to go over the halfway line whenever we want. We do not have to have 50/60 touches of the ball in our own half before we advance. Yawn. Bring some excitement back to the Cottage please Mr Parker.
posted by The Crab (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 1:10 PM I’d rather say. It’s ok to take some risk at the expense of losing the ball in the final third! It really annoys me when we get a free kick with 30 yards of the goal, we pass the ball even though The player passed to is not in any advantaged position! Don’t we know how to take set pieces anymore??
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 3:25 PM Poor Parker? Be careful what we wish for? Diddums! On the contrary, methinks if we moan a bit more, somebody will take notice of our plight and save our season. Each to his own, but if i wanted to give Parker time to learn his trade, i would put him in kindergarden. We have been a small but successful club for a few years on and off. Meaning that Fulham have always punched above their weight and have seen success in the prem. We want to keep the tradition and dream alive and most fans think that we have the players to be successful again. Defence is a worry and this has never changed much. My worry about Parkers tactics and style of play is that he is trying to replicate Slavisa's style, and he isn't very good at it. Why not bring back Slavisa for a 2nd term,and give him the chance to finish what he started. Slavisa will get more out of Mitrovic for a start, he can get Mitrovic playing proper football again. Slavisa's risky style of playing out from the back was always successful and can be so again. There was always the risk that some teams would queeze up and stop us playing and we concede goals. Back in this Championship, Slavisa will be successful. If appointed back to us? We need to trust him to put things right. Experience is so vital at management level and Scott Parker is missing some minor details which cost us week in week out. Slavisa will dearly love the challenge to prove he can cut it back in the premeirship. Forget kindergarden Parker stylee, that is for 5 year olds. We need the grown-ups accademy. Do let's bring in an experienced manager. If not Slavisa Jokanovic, Chris Houghton, or whoever is available.Time to wise up before we throw away more points and blow our season...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 10:31 PM Owen,Slavisa is never coming,I get end of,about a year ago everybody’s calling for him to be sacked,never go back!
posted by Chief (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 6:12 AM Chief' we need to tell Parker to stop copying Slavisa's play tactics then. Parker is playing Slavs way and he is not very good at it. What chance have we got for promotion if Parkers kindergarden continues? If we lose to Birmingham, the writings on the wall for Parker in my opinion. Slavisa is available and thats a fact, and he has taken 2 clubs up to prem so far, watford and Fulham. Slavisa needs to finish what he started and also there is a lot to prove in keeping us in the premiership. I think there is more than half a chance Slavisa will come back but we will see.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Friday 08th November 2019, 7:35 PM

Please don’t go tell him not to listin to Rubbish on here
posted by Badger (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 6:34 PM Nah. He can't be that desperate.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 10:16 PM

Where as we all know, geezers mum is an economy class twat
posted by Fulham Banter (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 6:52 PM He joins in has a go sometimes like us all then gets upset and leaves lots of times why. Should only get upset if you fall out with friends none of use know each other
posted by Badger (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 7:15 PM Not true - I met Hints once in the Golden Lion, a rather nice chap as I recall.......
posted by Keetch54 - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 7:26 PM fulham banter. My mum is not long passed away. would you like to repeat that to my face please
posted by geezer (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 7:44 PM Geezer lve lost mum Dad wife why put it on here
posted by Badger (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 7:48 PM Don’t be a snow flake and yes cos your definitely not hard
posted by Fulham banter (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 7:52 PM Well FB you've got a big keyboard for a mouth and you're semi-literate too boot. Slink back under your rock before you find out the real world is a lot harder than your stunted development allows.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 8:00 PM It’s just banter, if you give learn to take it
posted by Fulham banter (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 8:13 PM Banter my arse , you’ve crossed the line fb , now do one !
posted by Massa (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 8:18 PM Can’t believe you lot like to see ya when not hiding behind key boards and Geezer and MST getting upset this is kids stuff makes me laugh
posted by Badger (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 8:39 PM Handbags , coyw .
posted by Paul (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 9:00 PM Give it a rest geezer. It’s over.
posted by Ashamed (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 10:04 PM Does the purse go to the winner?
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 10:07 PM C'mon Ash. That's not really you. Is it?
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 10:20 PM I always said I read but rarely post. Anyway. I come in peace. Would be nice to come here without being insulted though.
posted by Ashamed (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 10:26 PM You're doing OK. Bound to be some hangover from the previous but that's life. Enjoyed a couple of your digs at me in the last posts before the curtain came down. Very subtle and well crafted.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 11:15 PM Thank you Keetch I rather enjoyed our catch up too.
posted by Hints (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 3:41 AM Your welcome P - ( whoops, nearly gave the game away )
posted by Keetch54 - Thursday 07th November 2019, 7:34 AM

Owen, if we lose this game the Khans will not get rid of Parker, the reason why is any new manager will demand certain things that they will not sanction, ie defenders. Yes they have put a lot of money into the club but I can’t get it out of my head why they will not shore up the defence. The club is becoming a laughing stock at the moment. If a regular person does not do his job there is a consequence, this does not happen at FFC, WHY? Agree with you regarding he should go if we get turned over. I think he should do the honourable thing and resign, that’s not going to happen though.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 9:04 AM "there is a consequence, this does not happen at FFC".... so there was no consequence for Ranieri or Symons or even Jokanovic?
posted by Hints - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 9:10 AM Hints, I’m on about the players not the Managers. We have players that are not putting in a shift on the park. Irrespective of who the manager is the team on the pitch are are lifeless.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 10:26 AM Nice to see the under 20s turned over Wycombe last night. none will ever make the first team with present set up but still nice to see a good win away.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 2:41 PM Not so soon. Wait until Christmas. Nice little compensation package for Scottie. Happy days all round.
posted by Simon (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 5:39 PM Fair enough Gaz I thought we were talking about SP.
posted by Hints (Guest) - Thursday 07th November 2019, 12:54 AM

If you want to talk politics go on a politics web site, if you want to talk football fine but this is Fulham FC message board which I believe is closely related to football, in spite of the Parker element.
posted by cravencottage1948 (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 7:34 PM Would rather it be kept to sport but all to there own if you don’t like you don’t have to read
posted by Badger (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 7:35 PM There's been many a good debate on this site not football related and long may it last !
posted by Dave (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 9:22 AM There are many different people on here John with many different ideas. I think most people are a little fed up with the fighting that resulted in moderator MST telling us he would no longer visit this site. The political, gender and complaints of feeling insult seem to have come from these discussions which is making the public in general hot under the collar as well as Fulham supporters. I for one would like a rest from it but if you want to post about those topics you can, just expect to get a chunk of people asking you not to. As I have already said I think most that use this board are a little fed up with the rows that these subjects have caused.
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 10:07 AM Been very nice to discuss and read about Fulham/football again.
posted by Timmy (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 12:35 PM All the people who argued should be ashamed.
posted by Tim (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 2:37 PM I think ashamed has buggered off ...
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 4:32 PM Still here
posted by Ashamed (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 5:19 PM Pleased to hear it.
posted by The Arizonan - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 5:50 PM Where ? Timbuktu?
posted by Tim (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 6:20 PM

Who gives
posted by geezer (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 10:56 AM Mmmmm, Nice idea to use a difficult situation resulting from a tragic event to make cheap, borderline racist brexit jibes.No idea even what the point might be
posted by Old Bloke (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 1:34 PM Totally agree Old Bloke, totally moronic post.
posted by Fair Player (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 1:36 PM Very tough situation here. No winners here not to mention the tragic loss of a decent life! What I don’t understand is when I buy a house, before I complete my solicitors would make sure I have building insurance in place! Why Cardiff not insured the player the moment he signed the contract is beyond believe! Then to let him travel 1000miles!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 1:56 PM Thanks for your responses. Corrections the loss of two lives Emillio Sala's father died shortly after his death apparently of a broken heart. The Scots and their desire is being led by a core support for the SNP, which had 3 months after the 2014 referendum on Independece to come cap in hand for the Treasury to bail out the N Sea oil industry, both the Scots and the Welsh benefit by £1934 per annum being spent on over the English annually. How do you think they can afford free prescriptions, higher education and have even given benefit free without having claim them in Fife on a trail basis? Alec Salmon ran rings around Cameron and has now found his true home at RT Television and Ms Nicola Sturgeon dreams of being the Communist First female President of Scotland. Fact. The Scots are being misled and the Welsh are just following them like sheep. I saw the 2014 Indepenndence Campaign, where in Glasgow the SNP attacked a Remain supporter who was blind although I did not witness that myself but there was a lot of coehersion
posted by Rich of Cambridge (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 2:47 PM So all of that has got what to do with the tragic death of a promising young footballer and the pilot? Jesus, why on earth would you bring your political views into such a subject? I just don't get it, sorry!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 3:39 PM Rich no body dies of a broken heart. We all die on our time. And you never said any thing about the pilot. What about his family kids etc and friends. But what gets me is they find the player take him out of the plane but leave the driver there. But all we get from you is about the player. Money the welsh and the Scots. You need to look at your self first.
posted by Geezer (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 3:55 PM Nice to see everyone still talking bollox on here.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 4:01 PM Hard to believe but this guy just got more moronic!
posted by Fair Player (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 4:20 PM Geezer, you CAN die of a broken heart , fact !
posted by Ted (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 4:39 PM Hey Dan. Looks like Uber is heading for a big fall. Bet that breaks your heart. Grin.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 5:20 PM Ted please explain. How
posted by geezer (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 5:22 PM Broken heart syndrome occurs when a surge of stress hormones cause short term heart muscle failure, the condition is usually treatable, but it can be fatal .
posted by Ted (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 5:35 PM Thank you for that Ted.
posted by geezer (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 6:02 PM Ted just looked it up. Its called Takotsubo cardionyopathy started in Japan in the 1990s
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 6:18 PM It's easy for you to say that.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 6:21 PM The Japanese have invented a million ways to die:)) I had a Siamese cat like that, will to live zero when faced with adversity.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 6:47 PM

A fair post
posted by Rm (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 6:35 AM TOTALLY UNFAIR ON S PARKER, PROBABLY ASKED FOR DEFENDERS DIDN'T GET THEM. NOT MUCH MONEY SPENT ON ONLY LOAN PLAYERS WHO ARE NOT COMMITED TO FULHAM FC AND WILL BE ON THEIR WAY AGAIN AT THE END OF THE SEASON. ANY TEAM THAT FAILS TO BUILD FROM THE BACK IS NOT REALLY AT THE RACES ARE THEY? MANAGEMENT COUNTING PENNIES WHEN THEY SHOULD BE INVESTING IN A TEAM ~ SEEMS TO ME TO BE AS BAD AS LAST SEASON WITH A FEW WINS SCATTERED IN THEIR TO KEEP THE FAITH QUITE. MR KAHN SR. IS ONLY INTESTED IN THE CLUB BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY VALUE KEEPS RISING AND WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE?
posted by Rich of Cambridge (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 9:00 AM Agree you have to build from the back Rich . But are our defenders worst than most Championship defenders or are they getting left exposed by our tactics with no cover
posted by Badger (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 9:10 AM Stoke 0 v WBA 2. So WBA are much better team than us are they. No they are not, but they do have a manager, that can organise a team to beat a team that we lost too, and looks like being relegated. Swap managers and we would have won and WBA would have lost. Please Mr Khan wake up and smell the coffee now, and bring in a new manage with experience before it's too late.
posted by Malden Mick (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 9:59 AM Hold on when i said at the start of the season about getting agency players in. Every body said it was good business. Now the wind has changed the owners and players are sh..t. Rich what do you want
posted by geezer (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 11:03 AM Nice to know that there are still "believers " out there as my paper tips us to beat Birmingham on Saturday,mind you they have been known to get things wrong!,
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 11:43 AM I think Rich wants us to win at home Geezer. Getting desperate.
posted by Baz (Moderator) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 12:42 PM In answer to Rich of Cambridge's RANT .. We know the Khan's have invested the following in FFC ; Bought the Club for £150m , spent on players last year Rico £8m , Seri & Le Marchand £30 , Mitro £25m ,Mawson £15m , Bryan £6m , Anguissa £22m plus the loan fees which are usually around £1m plus wages and you have the audacity to say they are only interested in the property which incidentally they are presently spending millions on . The fact is we have one of the best squad of players in the Championship which are presently under performing and I am blaming the manager and the coaching staff and unless things change soon our season will be over as far as promotion is concerned .
posted by fulham supporter (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 5:51 PM How can you possibly think expenditure on the likes of Seri and co is an "investment"? If they were less arrogant and knew even a tiny bit about the game we wouldn't be floundering about like we are right now. You, nor I, have any idea of the management structure at FFC with regard to what changes, if any, have been made since last years disasterous campaign. Parker, of necessity, is a Yes Man and is in post because no suitablty qualified manager would touch the job with a barge pole. Ground and facility improvements are the modus operandi of the Khan family (for reference see Jacksonville Jaguars and the docks development) and perhaps they should stick to real estate development and give "soccer" a miss.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 6:20 PM Not a fan of the Khans,but they have invested without doubt, bad investments maybe, but they have still put a lot of money into the club.
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 7:39 PM THE BELIEVERS IN SP. They must be deluded or on huge amounts of medication to believe its going to get better after 15 games NO Barnsley-Stoke-Hull- Nottingham Forest Get REAL
posted by dean (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 9:03 PM Badger, our back line is that bad. Worst man marking bunch I’ve ever seen. Don’t know what tactics, other than parking the bus, would help. As for investments, worst defence in all of Europe last season and not one pence was spent on defensive improvements. Can’t figure out how TK gets a pass with anyone of you. Maybe when we finally enter administration with this mismanaged roster and budget you’ll all see the light.
posted by Californian - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 2:45 AM Californian...Admin isn't going to happen but we are going to lose a few more matches if we end up with 4 central defenders across the back four as we did last week v Hull when Bryan went off injured after a couple of minutes . Oh how we miss the speed of Fredericks at right back and a proper left back who doesn't get caught out of position all the time as Bryan does . Also we miss Sess up front !
posted by FULHAM SUPPORTER (Guest) - Wednesday 06th November 2019, 3:42 PM

Really ... more rubbish! Let’s get Claudio back shall we ... wish everyone will give it a rest and just get behind the team
posted by Guest (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 8:22 PM

As a believer in bringing the kids on. He will just stay in the back ground like the rest of them. If the club wants to go on or be any body. They have to have the bollocks to do some thing about it. Completely change the way we play the game. At the moment its f...ing boring.
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Tuesday 05th November 2019, 11:15 AM

Of the 3 bottom teams we have managed a draw and 2 losses = 1 point,does not look much like a promotion team to me.Parker in charge till the end of season, ? we will finish in the bottom one third of the table if were lucky.
posted by KUNYE (Guest) - Monday 04th November 2019, 11:28 PM

I liked him Geezer, but the injury looks bad and I don’t think we can afford another injured Cb. Sort of bloke we need though, some one who is no nonsense in defence and leads by example. On the pitch that is.
posted by Gaz (Guest) - Monday 04th November 2019, 7:22 PM Will be out for a year which may explain the ending of the contract. He's 33.
posted by Crocked (Guest) - Monday 04th November 2019, 7:26 PM Don't rate Keogh highly but the fact remains, Keogh has chalked up some impressive game-time for Derby. I think he is one of the clubs highest for appearances, which commands a lot more respect than what they have given him. Remember John Terry and his misdemeanours? Chelsea still regards him highly.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 04th November 2019, 8:31 PM