It seems to me that no matter what solution any government or Home Secretary comes up with for slowing down immigration, the do gooders are always there with their catchers mitts waiting to be offended on behalf of people who aren’t offended. We cannot go on the way we are with hundreds of thousands of people entering this country illegally or legally on a weekly basis. It always amazes me how so many people who have lived here for years still can’t speak a word of English yet manage to find a way to get housed, claim benefits, use the national health, practice their religious beliefs and then still complain. We need get hard line on these people and return anyone who has no trade or skill to offer as well as compel them to pay financially for the pleasure if we do let them stay just like other countries to where you can emigrate. Rant over!
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the truth is the red line has been crossed and no politician has the bravery to step forward and save the nation nor civilians to call things by their name. Only the military, at the expense of a few fatalities,can save thousands from whats around the corner
posted by T.NO (Guest) - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 1:13 PM
People will not vote for a party who cannot solve the illegal immigration problem and the people oriented MPs must realise this. People thought Brexit would end it, but all that did was end Europeans doing a good job in our Country. Most people are unbelievably stupid and Governments must realise and do what they want and if it is not completely idiotic and explain why it cannot be done in a way it a simple and seemingly logical way. The problem with the present PM is he speaks in a way stupid people will not understand.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 3:24 PM
Despite your utter dislike of Nigel Farage and his Reform party, if you really think about it MST, are at this stage the only political party that we can trust, and we have to take their honesty on trust. I couldn't vote for the most untrustworthy Labour party, and the Tories have had 14 years to sort it out, and failed miserably, so I can't place my X against any of them on my voting form. The Liberals, are led my by a complete clown in Ed Davey, and as for the Greens, well I can't even think of their leaders name, but he looks and sounds pretty pathetic, so a vote for them would also be a waste of time. So MST, although I am not a great fan of Nigel Farage myself, he is England for the English, or if I'm pressed Britain for the British, so my vote like millions of others, who have placed them so far ahead in the poles, must go for Reform and to be quite honest, everybody that I know in my circle of friends will most definitely be voting REFORM, the pity is, we have to wait so long to cast our votes, to see if they can keep up their promises.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 5:23 PM
What I can't understand, and I am not really a political person that gets to understand politics a great deal, is to why, a party the size of only a few MP's seems to be frightening the pants off of others with all of their MP's ? I's a real puzzle to me. Can anyone explain that ?
posted by NON POLITICAL (Guest) - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 5:50 PM
Labour must show they have virtually stopped illegal immigration and they will be re-elected as that has become the only issue the idiot electorate are concerned with.
posted by The Time Is Now - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 5:59 PM
Keep it football please.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 6:47 PM
TTIN, whatever, the Labour Party do now, it won't help a bit, they are toast, and they will only get a handful of MP's, next time round.
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 6:48 PM
Nothing will change in our country because the country is really run by fabians and unelected quangos. Right from the very top down, they're in the house of Lords who make the ultimate decisions no matter which political party is in number 10, they run the bank of England which is headed by andrew bailey who scuppered liz trusse's budget, they've infiltrated the education system right from primary school all the way through to the universities so the youngsters are being indoctrinated, they're in the court system which is why their's a two tier justice system, they're in the police force which is why people can openly hate jews on our streets week in and week out and get away with it but someone who writes something on social media gets a lengthy prison sentence. They keep banging the climate change drum so we end up getting ripped off to heat our homes and told to drive electric cars which are useless, we've stopped extracting gas from the north sea because they say its bad for the environment but import it from other countries who charge us through the nose so they can give their own citizens cheaper gas and then they tells us that we're to reliant on other countries for our energy so we need to cover the countryside with solar panels that china supply to us even though in the winter we don't have any sun also they're putting farmers out of business who then have to sell the land to foreign companies for them to put these chinese solar panels on then charge us three times as much as we're paying already for the gas we're getting from other countries, then there's the windmills which of course are made in china again then brought here on a boat, the life span of these blades is around 15 years depending on where abouts they've been sited after which they're buried in the ground because they can't be recycled and they also use about 700 gallons of oil to lubricate the gearbox, oh yeah and some of these larger wind turbines have a diesel engine to get them started and for heating the blades when ice builds up on them, they'll end up covering the farmers fields with solar panels and windmills so then we'll be being even more reliant on other countries for our food because we can't eat solar panels can we.
I'll not step foot in a polling station ever again because voting changes nothing.
posted by Voice of reason (Guest) - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 7:46 PM
TTIN, come what may, and whatever the Labour Party, do from now until the next election, they are toast, and they will be extremely lucky to get more than a handful of MP's
posted by THE CRAVEN (Guest) - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 7:50 PM
Too late, the UK will become the first Islamist country in Europe in the next ten years. They have managed to do, what no one else has managed since 1066 and the genteel English folk will suffer greatly from a lack of leadership and from not wishing to offend. get out now, while you can, there's a shower (Sharia) of sh!t coming your way.
posted by fred (Guest) - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 8:45 PM
This Country has never been racist and they have welcomed thousands from different areas of the Commonwealth and beyond for decades. The tree huggers tend to be middle-class England who don't have a large Refugee influx in their nice cities and suburbs. THere are a lot of countries high on the list of Migrant population that are net even war-torn such as Pakistan etc and they have the highest influx of Migrants and you can include India on this list. Most have family connections in the uk now and they know deep down that England is not racist but they have family connections so vthey will jump on the racist bandwagon to make it sound like the British are racist just to get their people in and thats the game. Every Englishman and flag flying Englishman have and know of asians they may have gone to school with or work with and a lot of the English protesting from Epping Forest say they know many asian people around them but the media and people who have an agenda will jump on the racist bandwagon just to get more of their friends and family into this country. No western countries will ever turn qualified people such as Doctors down or refuse them entry. Austraila will never turn anyone qualified with papers from ASIA or anywhere down and thats why Austraila build up their economy and they never go into recession and there is a lot we can learn from them. There is nothing wrong with a country that looks at their recourses and lack of it, housing problems, and reevaluates and make hard decisions about migration and numbers. A very simple example about equasion goes like this: Ii i say i have room for two guest at my house and 100 knock on my door, there is a problem, i have no room for the remaining 98 and thats one basic problem nobody chooses to understand or care about. Councils are over-run etc, homeless are sleeping in places like Tottenham now and the only thing that selfish people can shout about is' find homes and sort everyone out which we cannot do anymore. The Christian leaders jump on the bandwagon and say that Jesus would never be racist or refuse anybody which is true up to a point. Think about this?
Would Jesus welcome everyone into his flock to practice your other faiths? No' he did not come here to tell you to practice your other faiths and religions except Christianity . The Archbishop of Canterbury is so wrong and this is why this country is in such a state and a mess now. King Charles and the Archbishop went against Christian values when they changed the wording from the bible to all faiths which isn't Christian and this is one reason of many why England has fallen and broken. His mother Queen Elizabeth would not have changed anything from the bible. These people have their own versions of what Christianity is all about and thats the problem. I could go on about pubs and churches being changed into mosque but it is a waste of time, the woke and people in power ect have brought England down and thats the bottom line.
posted by OWEN - Tuesday 18th November 2025, 9:50 PM
You can all bleat on as much as you want. England is finished we are done for it’ll never be the same, we’ve seen its best days even the Forest of Dean will be over run in the future.
posted by Sydney Patel (Guest) - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 12:09 AM
OWEN Australia will never turn anyone qualified with papers from ASIA or anywhere down and that's why Australia build up their economy and they never go into recession and there is a lot we can learn from them." Absolute nonsense. We don't allow Doctors and nurses etc with Asian qualifications to practice, they have to qualify here. We haven't gone into recession because we have more resources than most of the world and China wants to keep buying them.
posted by Hints (Guest) - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 12:36 AM
Owen, you are so right and you express my thoughts on the subject. When Augustine was sent to England to convert the Anglos he succeeded in his mission. We became a Christian country which led to a prolong period of learning and dedication which was continued under the Normans. The country changed when Henry V111 was refused a divorce by Pope Clement V11 so Henry set up the Church of England. This was followed by hundreds of years of religious persecution with monasteries being ransacked and burnt to the ground whilst the principal Catholic Churches were turned into Church of England bastions, such as Canterbury cathedral, Westminster Abbey and many other well known churches taken over during the Reformation. Owen is quite right in his comments on the dilution of Christian values perpetuated by King Charles statement of being Sovereign for all faiths and of course the woke brigade. The introduction of women priests culminating in the appointment of a woman as Archbishop of Canterbury. Perhaps Charles is not acquainted with the actual Bible and scriptures and I am grateful for the assistance of Owen for mentioning the salient points. Yes, I know this a Fulham FC message board but blame Owenfor rattling my cage. Owen, thank you.
posted by bigboy4650 (Guest) - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 8:24 AM
Good post voice of reason to some extent but I know 100% that wind turbines are manufactured in the UK in most cases through companies like Siemens and Gamesa, etc. which, for me in any case, throws some of your other claims I’m not sure about into doubt.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 9:31 AM
So the Catholic Church is due reparations for all that prime real estate that was nicked as well as hurt feelings and damages?
posted by Padre O’Vatican (Guest) - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 9:31 AM
You may not be racist Owen but a very large and increasing number in this country are. The majority thought leaving Europe would reduce the foreigners in this Country it of course has had the opposite effect. STUPID, STUPID PEOPLE.
posted by The Time Is Now - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 10:21 AM
Hate to burst your bubble MST but wind turbines may be assembled in the uK they’re manufactured elsewhere in places like China, France and Spain. I believe a company in Hull makes some of the propellers. We don’t actually make a lot here now,, we just put stuff together. Even the much lauded ‘British’ Brompton bike uses imported ready made frames and parts which are assembled by Eastern Europeans and Indians in Greenford. Only the titanium parts and frames are made in Sheffield, for now. Sad times indeed.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 1:28 PM
Not popping Paddy; you’re referring to Siemens in Hull where I’ve 1000 people are employed making the blades and hate to beg to differ but I’ve actually seen manufacture of the turbines many times in a large part of my employed life and I only retired at the end of March 2024.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 5:27 PM
Apologies, I was looking at official figures, not anecdotal evidence from work. We assemble in the UK very little is made here. The only Brit making a non subsidised profit from wind turbines is King Charles.
posted by Paddy O’Doors (Guest) - Wednesday 19th November 2025, 5:49 PM