Yes, it was a turning point, both for that game and Brede's consequent 3 match ban. Like you, I thought the decision was very harsh. If you have a small squad that's the risk you take - key players out for long periods.
posted by peterjeremy - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 4:34 PM Yes you are correct. The team is very sensitive and can not handle decisions going against them so lets hope it never happens again. I think that the light and wind were against us on that day also. I believe that Sunderland players were also muttering rude things to our players while the ref was not paying attention which does not help either. Why do these terrible things not happen to other teams? I may start following table tennis since much less can happen to put the players off their game.
posted by nick (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 5:38 PM You guys can really come up with some laughs at times.

Yes Brede's tackle was a 50:50 red card and Probert is one of the poorer referees.

But Sidwell got what he deserved. 2 red cards. As a seasoned pro he should have known better but as I've said before - brainless.

Other sides do get poor decisions against them. Usually teams down on their luck fare worst.

Favourable decisions? Dare I say Man U at Old Trafford beat all but not in Champions League games.

posted by willie2B (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 10:16 PM

Really? Tell us more...
posted by Martin Jol (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 2:27 PM You are wasting your time with Fulham. Come over here and tell me all about yourself: http://www.chelseafcblog.com/
posted by José Mourinho (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 2:57 PM

oh yes forgot the kid from Liverpool, wisdom 19 another kick up the jacksi for the accadamy lads.
posted by mr keef (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 1:43 PM Agree,and I cant understand why we are always linked to wingers we have enough!
We don't need a right back its a left back that's needed as everyone knows,I would rather we keep Manolev than to train up someone for the bloody Scousers.
posted by nobby (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 3:35 PM Agree lads but surely we can't afford another 2million? This is just selling papers.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 10:19 PM

Think we could pick up a point or two at Sunderland and Newcastle. Plus home against WBA and Cardiff should be within our grasps IF we reckon we can have yet another season in the prem. So not sure if pessimism is warranted
posted by jambo (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 12:40 PM Surely the target has to be to improve our away record. A point from each of the Sunderland and Newcastle games would be a satisfactory start, and well within our capabilities. Neither of those clubs look like they are going anywhere, except maybe down.
posted by peterjeremy - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 1:33 PM Good run at the toughest part of Xmas and New Year and a great run home. I like it.
posted by Al (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 1:53 PM 2 top teams in first 6 games. I welcome it. If we can't take good points from at least 4 games we don't deserve to be in the EPL.

Looks like some of you will be wringing your hands if we get any more fixtures against EPL sides! Al, is right. An easy run in is useful whatever your table position.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 10:24 PM

Sorry but Richardson is rubbish, along with Senderos he should be sent packing.

No use either of them to our team.
posted by Cliff (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 9:37 AM

Why is he so special ? Any manager would of been given the boot with 3 loses in 3 games! He's better off without it anyway. that must be the worst job in football we had 3/4 top player that couldn't be bothered to show or played for the senior team. That is only an excuse in England as all other country's make there youngsters join up with there under 21 teams when they are finished with the senior side.
posted by Cbffc (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 6:02 PM Just loook at SPAIN this afternoon. Where are we going wrong
posted by GEZZER - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 6:35 PM You are right, there are no kids coming through and the future is not looking bright.

Therefore the guy who has been in charge of the U21 side for 6 years now is presumably one of the principal people accountable for that*!!

With two miserable tournaments now, he surely has to go.

Shame, I like the guy. As much as one can like a psycho.

* I appreciate that the PL clubs' attitude to (not) letting players play international football these days is not in any way helpful...
posted by Gareth Southgate (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 7:07 PM Pearce is a born loser. All he has is a faux patriotism and pretend 'psycho' image. Sorry but his managerial record is pathetic, I think you do actually need some tactical awareness in football, not just blood and guts. It's no wonder our u21's struggled with that no-brain racist in charge. I hope he never gets another job in or around football. Do us all a favour and join the army, go to afgan', blow yourself up..be a 'hero'.
Pearce, I'll never forgive you for Italia 90, and the big fuss you made when you scored in euro96...don't bloody miss the first pen you retarded prick!
good riddance to bad rubbish.

posted by CarshaltonAl (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 8:13 PM CarshaltonAl - I hope the satisfaction you got from posting that outweighed making yourself look like a dick in the process
posted by Snakey (Guest) - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 11:57 AM

I should think its something to do with jol being on holiday everyone deserves a couple of weeks away, even him! You would soon be moaning if he sloped of in the middle of April !
posted by Cbffc (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 6:05 PM Doesn't Jol have a stand-in.

I get really pissed off when I'm told nothing can be done because THE MAN is on holiday or sick or something.

Even Cameron and Milliband have deputies and before you start, I'm talking about the post, not the man.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 10:38 PM

Reading between the lines, he wants Jol to stop unsettling the squad, falling out with players and selling them! It would be okay if he brought in adequate replacements.

If you treat players poorly, the truth is that they will not play as well for you and it will not encourage others to join. Schwarzer is a great example. The Club would have known for quite some time that they weren't going to keep him, so should have been given a proper send-off in his last game.

I actually think we were right to replace him - he's nearly 41 and, although he finished the season strongly, there were some question marks about his form early season. I love the guy and respect how good he was for us for such a long period of time, but if you get the chance to buy someone of Stekenenberg's ability, then it's a no-brainer.

I just think that Jol constantly fails on the personal side of management. Make those players work hard for you and respect you. Seems a little strange, given that is why he was reportedly so good at Spurs.
posted by Steve Sidwell (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 9:48 AM Sorry guys but £4million+ for scott parker does not make sense. The guy IS injury prone and Spurs have seen the light. Why else would they sell him? Let him go to Sunderland.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 11:42 AM You dont give anyone a send off unless they are going and until we signed the Roma keeper Schwartz wasnt going.

You never know in football what will happen until its all signed off - like when Schwartz was off to Arsenal.

£4m for Scott Parker - crazy. Buy Huddlestone. Spurs want Parker gone cos he has lost it. He is not anor Murphy.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 12:54 PM Parker is not and never will be in the same class as Murphy. He has his merits (when fit) BUT if it meant losing Kaka it should be a big NO NO. I believe that Kaka will be a very good player for us next season.
posted by jambo (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 1:40 PM

A bit old and injury prone
posted by FFC SUPPORTER (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 5:38 AM Parker a great fetcher and carrier, but we need a playmaker. Huddlestone if fit has a tremendous range of passing, also has played centre back in an emergency. Class footballer, I think problems with weight and work rate overstated, really hope he signs for FFC

posted by denny (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 6:37 AM Definitely sign him. Quality player.

England CM not long ago. Exactly the position we need strength. He may be regarded as being injury prone and old - fine, he's 32 (33 in October), but I think his only real 'injury hit' season was last season.

Probably worth a gamble for £4m. Surely we can sell ourselves to him better than Sunderland can...

I think we'd get at least two solid seasons from him.
posted by Sign him up... (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 9:37 AM Sorry guys but £4million+ for scott parker does not make sense. The guy IS injury prone and Spurs have seen the light. Why else would they sell him? Let him go to Sunderland.

(Posted under wrong heading although I do think Sidwell should be on his way.)

posted by willie2B (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 11:44 AM I would take a risk for £4m. If and i know its a big IF he stays fit then he is the sort of leader we have been lacking all season. A midfeld player who can go box to box and put his foot in and play a bit. Ok he is just coming over the hill but wasnt Murphy when we got him, he will want to put in a good perfomance to try and stay in the England picture so lets take a risk.

Think we should be raiding Spurs this summer, Huddlestone, Parker, Defoe, Assou Ekott all look out of favour and would all do a turn for us.

Only problem is they would no doubt want kacaniclik in return who i see as being a star for us next season in a forward role.
posted by Adam (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 1:09 PM sign Parker and we might as well rebrand the Cottage as a full time retirement home.
posted by CarshaltonAl (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 8:15 PM Parker is better than any central midfielder currently on Fulham's squad, although I do admit he is often injured. I would prefer to sign Huddlestone, but don't think he will be available since he played so much towards the end of the season and provides Tottenham with excellent cover. I'd take any of the Spurs players who may be available, what about Livermore? Assou Akato? Dafoe would be a perfect poacher to partner with Berbatov.
posted by Caliyank (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 9:28 PM Totally agree, I think he would shine the way Danny Murphy did. Problem is that Jol wants Dutch, German players to build his squad around, think he has grown tired of English/established premiership types ... can't blame him on that really ...
posted by Phil74 - Wednesday 19th June 2013, 9:24 AM

He just says the same thing everytime. Like we all work at Fulham and can actually do something to get him here. It's been explained that he needs to have been called up for his country before he can get a work permit too.
posted by FULHAMFAN (Guest) - Sunday 16th June 2013, 1:38 PM There must be a site moderator or webmaster who can block posts that render the website a farce! where are you?
posted by nobby (Guest) - Sunday 16th June 2013, 3:52 PM Annoying but just ignore him. Will get bored eventually.
posted by APM (Guest) - Sunday 16th June 2013, 5:43 PM He won't get bored. What else would you do in Nigeria except polish your AK47?

I've already put up a get rid of him plea. Nothing happened.
posted by Al (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 1:54 PM assuming the post from kit Symons was true why don't he inform who ever runs this site to delete it, plus if Symons reads this message board why don't he tell jol to read it along with the directors, and if we get 26,000 through the gate every home game why is the same half dozen names always on message board, do the hammy enders know about it? if not put ad in programme giving the web site address.ps is mr ikora a possible drogba?
posted by mr keef (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 2:37 PM I agree in principle but in practice he has just has to creat a new accont to get around any block. The only way is to ignore him. he just wants attention and sadly is getting it
posted by Phil (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 3:05 PM But this guy must be awesome - he even says so himself. It must therefore be true.

Surely we cannot miss this opportunity to sign him up...
posted by African talent scout on high commissions... (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 4:23 PM When he gets his international caps and moves to Real Madrid instead of Fulham, then you'll all be sorry.
posted by Manuel Heeled - Monday 17th June 2013, 8:26 PM I have fan shirts and lots of good gear but I need your help to send it out of Nigeria send me £100,000 for a club not much and i will send you twice that
posted by OKARI PROSPER FAN CLUB (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 8:37 PM Now we're getting to the point O.P.
If you knew anything about Fulham you would know they don't waste money on conmen like you and neither will the supporters.
Please F.O.
posted by willie2B - Monday 17th June 2013, 8:59 PM We don't want you as a fulham fan, at our club or in our country! Go bore someone else with your relentless pestering lies and attempted fraud!
posted by Do one (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 9:55 PM It is clearly the same bloke who was copying everyones names to wind them up or the guy who pretends to be an agent. I doubt anyone in Nigeria supports Fulham
posted by fortressfulham - Monday 17th June 2013, 10:49 PM Its the agent bloke - he sent two posts a minute apart.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 12:56 PM It's not the agent bloke. The posts were 11 minutes apart, not 1 minute. Nigerians make great footballers and they can count past 10. We should encourage more of them. I put a squad of them in the nearby floodlit 6 a side and believe me they walked the league.
posted by Manuel Heeled - Tuesday 18th June 2013, 3:06 PM

He is entertaining - someone to boo. Glad he is back as he spices it up
posted by Phil (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 3:06 PM He is greta entertainment - spices it up - i am glad he is back
posted by Phil (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 3:07 PM Sorry thought post hadnt gone
posted by Phil (Guest) - Monday 17th June 2013, 3:07 PM