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https://youtu.be/tSnNDnpydn4?t=1m20s
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Sorry, don't see the point. Daft Americans chanting for an amateur football team.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:55 PM
 
I heard that the Palace Ultras were on a boycott over some issue with seating. Didn't realise they have all emigrated though!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:59 PM
 
 
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What's gone wrong with our Prime-Ministers?

As much as some people didn't like Thatcher, there's some respect for what she has done and the leadership she brought to the country. John Major was a well respected figure and left the job with pride you'd expect from the UK leader. Most of their predecessors left their jobs with creditability.

What happened since??

Blair did a good job building the economy and sorting out Ireland but completely ruined his legacy trying to be a good buddy with Bush and went and invaded Iraq, now we know probably illegal. He will never get a knighthood!

Brown completely destroyed the economy and bankrupted the country, probably started well before when he was the chancellor. He will never get a knighthood!

Cameron decided to give the country a suicide vote without a proper fight. He will never get a knighthood!

May's career is likely to finish for falling asleep on the wheel of the Brexit negotiation in the last 2 years. Without a deal, she will be gone in disgrace for failing to achieve the only one job she had. She will not be made a Dame!

Predicting the future...

Corbyn will be lucky and probably get voted in. It doesn't matter what he does with Europe but with his far left view and his likely promotion of even more extreme left wing MPs, the country will wake up one day to realised OMG what have we done and get kicked out. He will never get a knighthood.

looking even further ahead...

Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg will get into power. it will be another OMG wake-up call!!

What ever happened to our prime Ministers!

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I don't know why politics are coming on to this site, but I will just add, that if by any chance Corbyn ever became PM, and I have more chance of winning the lottery than that happening, then life would not be worth living in this country, and would become another Russian state.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 9:41 AM
 
Cameron did a runner when we voted to leave the EU, resulting in Mrs May taking over but being a firm remainder was always going to struggle to get the sort of deal that the Breiteers wanted. Must admit the thought of a commie like Corbyn moving into No 10 doesn't bear thinking about! Him and his Marxist colleagues will make " Attilla the Hun " look like a moderate!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 9:53 AM
 
This Country is too soft and everyone are becoming little snowflakes. Crime is out of control but there's no police on our streets. Take the crime from the streets and bring it to the Ivory towers, then we would have Zero tolerance.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 9:55 AM
 
Not to worry LTS, come Saturday this site will return to normal, with its letters praising the team after sorting out Watford!!!!!!!
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 10:00 AM
 
dan gleeballs ,,,spot on
posted by moreline (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 12:36 PM
 
Brexit is the story of four people in a plane. Mrs May is trying to land the plane however she's now realised she doesn't have enough fuel to land safely; she has the ERG Chaired by Reece Mogg who is trying to grab the controls of the plane from behind Mrs May and instead of implementing a safe landing is sending the plane into a nose dive - quickly. She's looking to her co-pilot for some assistance - the labour party - but they're too busy having a punch up with the passenger behind them - Jeremy Corbyn! Whatever's going to happen - it's not going to go well - oh well; could be worse! Up the Fulham!
posted by Odd bod! (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 12:48 PM
 
that's true....but I'd say a plane with May the pilot and 3 back seat passengers (Johnson, Mogg and Corbyn) stabbing at the back of May's seat, waiting to pounce! They don't care where the plane is going or what happens to the 65m passengers on the plane, as long as they get the pilot seat! Perfect scenario for a crash!
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 1:43 PM
 
Blimey. Its being so cheerful that keeps you all going.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 21st September 2018, 3:12 PM
 
@ John... couldn't agree more - little.... sorry... absolutely no consideration for any of the passengers at all. All that matters is who gets control! Your prediction of Mrs May - disappearing in disgrace, i sense will happen sooner than you may have thought with her very recent 'bold' plea to the EU, to essentially come up with some ideas for her as she's (after 2 years) essentially got nothing else to offer! Honestly; Felix McGath could have done a better job - JOKE! :-)
posted by Odd Bod! (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:05 PM
 
The problem is that Michel Barnier chartered the plane ;0).

I vote for another referendum now the leavers suddenly realise how stupid and futile their vote was ;0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:57 PM
 
Mod please delete. It has about much relevance to FFS as Blair has to a knighthood. PS I hope most or all of our MP's take the Ms May Flight & circle idlib long enough to do us all Favour. Cheers....
posted by Mac (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 5:14 PM
 
PSS Let Blair be cabin boy.
posted by Mac (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 5:21 PM
 
FFC not FFS fat fingered sorry. COYW...
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Friday 21st September 2018, 6:37 AM



 
Source: https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/latest-news-fulhams-riverside-stand-15176959

Fulham were granted planning permission for the redevelopment of the Riverside Stand in March - but so far little else has happened with the development.

Hammersmith & Fulham council granted full planning permission for a new 8,650 capacity stand, which would see the overall capacity of Craven Cottage increase to 29,600.

This was the second time the club had been granted planning permission for the redevelopment, with the original plans being granted in 2013, but after the takeover of the club by Shahid Khan the plans were redrawn to new designs.

At the time, the time frame for work to begin was in the summer of 2019, but since then it's gone quiet on that front as Fulham have begun life back in the Premier League.

Here's everything we know so far, what is currently happening and what happens next for the stand.

What has happened so far?

Fulham have been granted planning permission to redevelop the Riverside Stand.

This will increase the capacity of the stand to 8,650 and will see the current stand demolished and replaced by a new two-tier stand.

This new stand will include new new shops, a riverside walkway and nine apartments.

Planning permission was granted back in March with the club hopeful they would begin work in the summer of 2019.

What is happening at the moment?

At the moment, the club is still out to tender to potential sub-contractors.

This means Fulham are still inviting bids for the project from sub-contractors that will carry out the work on the Riverside Stand.

Chief Executive, Alistair Mackintosh, confirmed in the September meeting with the Fulham Supporters' Trust that the club wouldn't sign a contract with potential sub-contractors unless they were totally satisfied with the offer on the table - something they haven't been so far.

However, the view is still to move the project on as soon as possible with the plan not in danger of slipping a year.

What happens next?

Once Fulham are satisfied and have chosen a sub-contract, a time frame of works will be issued and the project can start moving forward - with the view to start work still the summer of 2019.

The club are also looking to set up Riverside Working group with season ticket holders in the current Riverside Stand to discuss the various relocation options available for fans that will have to be relocated during the works.

Once all these various things are done - work will eventually start on the project.

Is Shahid Khan's wish to buy Wembley Stadium having an effect on this project?

In short, no.

Mr Khan's plans to buy Wembley Stadium will have no impact on Fulham, Craven Cottage or the Riverside Stand redevelopment - they're two separate projects.


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Tendering to sub-contractors? Who's running the show?
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 21st September 2018, 7:47 AM
 
So the new stand will increase capacity by 4300 is it worth the time @nd money for such a small increase if we are to a regular prem side we need a stadium to hold if poss 35000 I know for various reasons could be awkward but maybe there is a solution to me that involves Hammersmith and Putney end. Somehow personally don’t think the new stand will materialise any time soon
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 7:50 AM
 
Wonder if we could have got a few more seats in if they wren't putting flats in there as well. Personally, I think it's a brilliant idea. If we can enter the ground from the river side, that will keep more people off Stevenage Road and surrounding streets and keep the precious neighbours quiet. I'm surprised ,however that there's no mention of building a jetty to allow our corporate friends arrive by boat from some posh gaff in central London while having a few prawn sandwiches on the way.I'm not a great fan of corporate deals at football but we could charge top dollar for that and go some way to "monetise" our location - easily the best in the country. If I won the lottery, I'd almost go for it myself!
posted by Neighbourhood Watch (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 10:39 AM
 
Len, it's not just about capacity. It's the facilities that will generate more matchday and non-matchday revenue.
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 2:52 PM
 
 
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Any news of when TC will be available for us? Not this Saturday, even so I am looking forward to meeting a Watford team brimming with confidence; but one never knows in football. Example, Spurs FFC 3-1, Watford Spurs 3-1, ManU Spurs 0-3, Watford ManU 0-2. Hope my scores are correct but anyhow you have the winners and take my point.
 
 
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Reluctantly selling due to a sudden relocation abroad 2X Fulham Seasonal Tickets. Riverside stand, Block X, 10 Rows up so very close to the action. As it is a bit of a short notice I'm also willing to sell the tickets for the Watford game individually. If interested in any of the two feel free to contact me at lucavld@gmail.com Thanks
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Luca, please dont go! Brexit may never happen; we are not all racist lying bigots
posted by Rm (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 6:00 PM
 
Ha, thanks for the encouragement, nothing to do with Brexit that I don't see as a bad thing per se. More with the extortionate rent prices that makes impossible for non marketable artists to survive. Cool Britannia ended long ago, and real creativity with it. Still love the English thought.
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Welsh Wizard has set himself up for a fall reading his post. I just couldn't be bothered to start the avalanche! Back to the Championships for those guys rapidly! It looks like we will have Tim Ream back into the mix sooner rather than later. We will all need to go easy on our American Talisman though, he will need to get up to the speed of the prem. We can't expect a faultless 90 minutes from Tim in his first game back if against Watford and probably there will be a few mistakes, short passes here and there (they have all made mistakes). This Prem is tough, unforgiving, and exciting, and we all want to be in it. Our best game so far was against Burnley and if we bring it to Watford Sat lunchtime, we have a chance of beating them. Whatever defence turns out for Fulham will improve because the lads are working hard back on the training ground. We all need to take a chill-pill even me, and look out for a few more mistakes and short passes guys. Slavisa is a stickler for his system and nothing will change in that department, we wouldn't be Fulham otherwise. Win or lose? We are in the prem and we roll on to the next game. We have the makings of a great passing and attacking team, and if we really get it together one of these days? We will be awesome!!! COME ON YE FULHAM!!!
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Posts getting longer and meaningless, same old same old. Still not feeling it?
posted by Rick (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 7:35 AM
 
Not feeling it Rick? I have no inclinations to start any arguments. There is a saying' The pen is mightier than the sword'! None of my post have been that bad that i have slain someone or attacked people. I have opinions and i am a Fulham fAN. Post is about welcoming Reamy back and yes he will make a few mistakes (That's different) No need to explain anymore or i will fall into the trap by trying to explain what i mean all over again. Funny isn't it when a few written words can cause this much upset. Cheer up Rick' it is worse for Cardiff supporters, they are going back down...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 8:09 AM
 
Rick, give it a rest!! If you don't like it don't make banal comments argue against the points he raises and if you can't be bothered to do that just don't bother at all mate - seriously!!

The abuse Owen is starting to receive for the most inoffensive of posts is bordering on bullying and I would imagine one of the reasons that regular posters are giving up on this board :0((((((.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 9:32 AM
 
Hear Hear...or Here Here.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 10:09 AM
 
It's hear, hear as in I hear you ;0)))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 10:31 AM
 
I agree MST don’t stop posting Owen to me you come over as a nice positive guy whose a good Fulham fan don’t them get you down your better than them. We may sometimes disagree but l respect your input
posted by DMK (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 11:44 AM
 
Keep posting Owen Your comments are a welcome and refreshing antidote to the complete nonsense and childish ramblings of those who wish only to stir the pot.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 12:15 PM
 
I think you have to excuse those people who probably can't string a sentence together and therefore being critical of those who can, and able write a piece of well-written post (not necessary agreeing with the contents or opinions). Twitter is truly ruin the art of English writing! Keep going Owen.
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 1:35 PM
 
"Twitter is truly ruin the art of English writing!" Indeed.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 20th September 2018, 2:24 PM
 
Thanks for your support guys. I admit i do get it wrong sometimes, but i don't ever mean any malice. I can repeat myself and write some over the top and some long in the tooth crap. I think that if one tries to explain stuff, i can get in a fuddle. It doesn't help if i try to be too clever, stuff like that. I am not entirely blameless in that i can bore the crap with some drivel sometimes. I will try and keep it reasonable and meaningful, and not too long. You will probably still get the odd bit of drivel when i go off on one, but in the main, i will try and be sensible thanks again guys!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 2:30 PM
 
Arizonan, you do make me giggle to myself :0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 4:17 PM
 
It's true that John's post ref "Twitter is truly ruin the art of English writing" is somewhat ironic but why comment on any posters' writing? We have thousands of supporters from (mostly) West London and we should not expect to read good English in every post. Considering our cross section of population, I think the standard of writing English is pretty good and sometimes, where not, the comments are spot on.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 5:42 PM
 
Methinks there are a few " upstart crows" in our midst!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 5:46 PM
 
Lighten up Willie. I guess you don't do irony ...
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 20th September 2018, 6:55 PM
 
Willie please put my remark in context. I am not critical of anyone’s post of English. I won’t and probably never will. My remark is in defence of criticism made on Owen’s post. But in general I also believe what I said that the Modern day use of languages (twitter, emoji, text, etc) is slowly diminishing the use of proper old fashion English writing!
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 7:11 PM
 
"Don't do irony"? that's rich coming from a Septic..
posted by Hints - Thursday 20th September 2018, 10:08 PM
 
Born in Princess Beatrice, Earls Court old boy; brought up on Ifield Road and Fulham Road. Not a Septic at all.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 20th September 2018, 11:02 PM
 
Just an ironic handle then... he he
posted by Hints - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:23 AM
 
Nice one.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 21st September 2018, 7:43 AM
 
Give Owen a break he is one of our older posters !!! And give people like me a break who can’t write proper English !!!!! ( can’t write but I’m a good talker and believe it or not got GCSEs in grammer and literature. When a schoolboy many years ago but time and life had taken its toll !!! but I’m thick skinned and can take abuse all I care about is our team winning !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 8:00 AM
 
 
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You Fulham supporters make me laugh, saying that nobody will beat Manchester City at home this season, just because you lot got hammered. Did you notice tonight's result. ha ha. We will prove on Saturday that they can be beaten away from home as well, and you will lose to Watford and we will wave you goodbye as we pass you in the table. I will enjoy that suckers.
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Welsh people don't have sense of humours so no , we don't make you laugh , kick and rush football , yawn.zzzzzzzz
posted by Colin (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 7:33 AM
 
I bet you'll be a bit more sheepish come 5 o'clock Saturday.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 8:08 AM
 
Shame you got no welsh wizard on the pitch instead of cloggers
posted by DMK (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 8:17 AM
 
Cardiff team line up:

Goal keeper
defenders x 8
defensive midfielders x 2

Be interesting to see Cardiff possession stats and completed passes in the attacking half. Come to think of it will be interesting to see any stats from that game:0))))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 9:40 AM
 
Cardiff, my odds on favourites for the drop, and it is us that will be waving them goodbye.
posted by A C (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 9:44 AM
 
Yep on the 27th April :0)))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 10:26 AM
 
Sorry Colin but Welsh Wizard has actually proven that the Welsh do have a sense of humour, That one about Cardiff beating Manchester City was a real belter.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 4:24 PM
 
Not being blessed with BT sport didn't see last nights game, but from all accounts for reasons unknown they didn't turn up, but with Pep back on the touchlline reckon somebody is in line for a good hiding.!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 5:37 PM
 
I'm sorry, there are plenty of funny Welsh people: Rob Brydon and Ruth Jenkins to name but two.. The remainder of the country is populated by fantastic singers, average rugby players and perverted farmers in wellies... truth be told a funny lot all round, not so much funny haha as funny peculiar really..
posted by Hints - Friday 21st September 2018, 5:01 AM
 
Think remarks regarding city are about domestic games we all know our big boys are not so big in Europe !! to our welsh friend at least we try and play football and I can’t wait to see the back of yuo lot
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 8:05 AM
 
 
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Confused say still Watfrod tickets on line ticket office saying sold out
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Why the confusion if ticket office says sold out you won’t be getting one !!,
posted by (Len (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 2:43 PM
 
I’ve got season ticket got email saying get a ticket for friend
posted by DMK (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:20 PM
 
I got that but when I tried to buy them I was told I didn't have sufficient privileges.Checking out with ticket office
posted by ST Holder (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:57 PM
 
The only tickets I could find were in blocks p2 & p4 in Putney end £50 for adults 35 for under 18s, Tickets for gooners game £60 adult , as MST would say o-(((
posted by Staines not so massive (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 5:24 PM
 
Doubt a Cardiff fan would write that city will hammer the t@ffies this w/e your bully boy tactics won’t work against this team 0-3 at best cmon citee
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Until the Man City game, despite only one win, I think all the players and definitely all the fans believe we can do much better and well this year. After the City game, I think most would agree with me the bubble has been burst and the players and fans recognised that. We are probably as good (yet) as we thought we were. Just with any fallout, the key question is how we respond to it? Has it damaged the confidence of the players (esp. Seri)? are the players disappointed and angry with themselves and how they will channel that energy? are the players still feeling sorry for themselves? have the team learned a thing or two that can help us in the next game?? the 60million dollar question is how we respond against Watford? I am really looking forward to the game but part of me is a bit nervous that we will be afraid to do what we are good at and part of me want to say our confidence is still high and we will want to show the world, we might not yet be good enough for City but we can give everyone a good game!! COYW. Let's put City aside and move onto bigger and better things!!
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Sure it would be nice to get points against Watford, but for me the $60M question is actually where are come May 12. This season, build a team, stay up, then strengthen where necessary in the light of a whole season's Prem experience. Then push on for a higher, more solid position in 2019-20. Meanwhile, so long as we're doing better than Huddersfield, Cardiff and Burnley (who also lost at the weekend) and any other relegation candidates..happy days
posted by phild - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 2:26 PM
 
John, why are you harping on about losing to Man City, and the players losing their confidence ? So will every club that now gets beaten by City start losing their confidence then. Did you notice that Arsenal lost at HOME to City, and in fact have now won 3 of their 4 matches played since, People do spout a lot of nonsense sometimes. Each game is different, especially in this Division, and there will be easier matches facing us, and most other clubs, than City AWAY. Let's just concentrate on our next match against Watford, and see what we come up with when we play teams of our own strengths and weaknesses.
posted by A C (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 2:38 PM
 
Nothing’s changed as far As i a concerned did not expect much at city doubt many other teams will either !!! My bubbles still intact and will remain so up until Xmas time see how we stand second half of season when we will have a settled team go from there far to soon to worry about our position still think there are at least three teams inferior to us and we have some decent players at this club !!,
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 2:49 PM
 
Well sumed up Len
posted by DMK (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:31 PM
 
I would say that once we have settled in there will be at least 9 clubs worse than us, so just have a little faith and patients.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:33 PM
 
Don't understand all this self-flagellation over the City result. As we didn't expect anything from the game, most of us aren't in the least bit disappointed. We're in good company, as most Premiership teams that have suffered the same fate at the Etihad over the last 12 months, but they get over it and move on.
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:37 PM
 
City brought down to earth with a bump !!! Seems they took tonight’s opponents to lightly got what they deserved nothing !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 10:37 PM
 
We will more than compete in the passing stakes, but just a slight worry on the physical side of the game? I hope tomorrows game doesn't boil over and produces yellow cards. Slavisa's interview on FTV is interesting, and remember guys he used to manage Watford so the game is extra spicy...
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Am l dreaming or did l see Tim Ream training with first team today on Fulham TV hope so
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....and Cairney :0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 4:25 PM
 
have you noticed he's the only player wearing a green bip. I think that means - FRAGILE - MUST BE HANDLED WITH CARE AND LOVE! OR YOU CAN LOOK BUT YOU CANNOT TOUCH!! so probably still quite a few weeks before we throw this baby out of his basket!
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 4:28 PM
 
Did notice that John
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I know some of us feel like we've been relegated after the Man City match...that's probably because our bubble has been finally burst - big time! However, while most of players looked uncomfortable, did you see Ayite? being his first game, I thought he looked really comfortable playing the ball and looked quite sharp! Still didn't see any final ball from him but definitely should give him some game time to compete with Vietto.
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I agree Ayite looked sharp and to be fair he never has had a great end product but does terrorise defences when he is on form.

The issue for me is not attack but defence considering that we have conceded the most goals in the PL thus far.

I do however, believe that Jokanovic will find his best back four sooner rather than later and from what I've seen in the four games I've attended it is likely to be more by process of elimination rather than selection ;0)).
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So we are five games in, have played and lost to two of the top four from last season as well as lost our first game of the season when we fielded a Fulham side that had six debutants (three of which had been with the club for two days). Other than that we have beaten a team who finished seventh last season and drew away to a team who consolidated their place in the PL last season.

I don't remember these kinds of results being too different from when we spent 13 seasons in the Premier League yet the usual suspects are on this board claiming they know more about team selection and tactics than a guy who does it for a living with a reasonable degree of success coaching three different clubs.

It seems to me that there are people out there who just can't wait for the team to lose a game or even drop points so they can come onto forums like this and spout rhetoric about what we could have done differently if they had been in charge.

This squad has been together for less than two months for crying out loud and we have injuries to key players so for Pete's sake give them a chance to at least say hello to each other before you start creating merry hell. We are all Fulham fans and most of us want to see Fulham rub shoulders with the best so get behind your team and support what the club and the Head Coach is trying to do and stop looking for the slightest thing for which you can criticise them.

Hello!! We finished third in the second tier last season!! We are not going to pull up trees in the best league in the world overnight!! Ask Cardiff fans how their season is panning out so far!!

Rant over!! COYSW!!
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MST, that was a really good article, and I am with you all of the way. Which way our season will go is in the balance at the moment, but I have a really good feeling about it, and once we are able to settle on a regular team we will gradually move up the table. Saturday could be a good time to start against Watford who, despite their rather flattering start, are quite beatable, especially at Craven Cottage.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:08 AM
 
MST I think that's unfair. I agree there are some negativity here that isn't helping but as fans, having a debate, thinking we are a better manager, a bit of a moan, getting excited as well as getting completely dejected and most importantly, sharing our emotions is what makes a football fan exciting!! Do you not agree? otherwise, we might as well sitting at home watching Casualty! Where we cross the line is when we become personal to any individual player, manager or the owner. Or we if we talking about going down already.
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:19 AM
 
Or personal about individual contributors - and God knows there has been enough of that on the site.
posted by Keetch54 - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:47 AM
 
Yes I agree in general John but the people to whom I refer are those who never have a good word to say about the club and must be out there, catchers mit on hand, just waiting for something to go wrong so they can field it and write their negative comments time and time again and if anyone disagrees they get personal and abusive.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 10:58 AM
 
Lots of your points are right but as fans of Fulham and Football there is always gonna be opion l like Jokanovic .but like a few others like Sessegnon further Forward and love our passing football but at times would like us to clear our lines more at back am sure not all agree that’s why we debate on here. It does get emotional at times. I will admite sometimes l thing we’ve been poor watched Match again on Fulham tv and was not the case
posted by DMK (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 10:59 AM
 
MST please name these malcontent blackguards immediately so we can protect our children from their evil influence.
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 11:20 AM
 
You know who you are HL ;0))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 11:25 AM
 
Ask Cardiff fans !!!! remind me how much they spent?.
posted by Albertrn (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 2:02 PM
 
What has spending got to do with it?? Everton spent more than us last season and had to call in Alladyce to save their season.

There is no direct correlation between spending and success. Being a Fulham fan I'd have thought you'd have worked that out with the acquisition of players like Mitroglu, Marlet, Ruiz, etc. ;0).
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 2:30 PM
 
Don’t think Man City. Chelsea Man Utd Liverpool to name 4 would agree with that!!!where would these clubs be if they had spent the same as ffc on transfers in the last 4 years !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 3:35 PM
 
Slightly wrong there look at top clubs and see what spending big done for them,what I said was how much did Cardiff spend in answer to your statement !ask Cardiff fans,they are just a couple of points behind us but spent nothing,wolves are putting on abetter show than us soo far and they spent a few bob, so spending does bring dividends eventually , I hope.
posted by Albertrn (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 3:57 PM
 
Don't forget the players you quoted did not want to play for us.
posted by Albertrn (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 3:59 PM
 
Len I don't see Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea winning much in recent years and City's spending hasn't all been successful in any case.

In terms of Cardiff they are playing with 15 out of 18 from last year's squad so of course they will have more cohesion than us but you might also remember that Cardiff finished above Fulham last season. Yes they are a couple of points behind us but we only have four points and we have only played five games! My point is that I would rather watch the football I am watching and have two points more than seeing the ball lumped up field for 90 minutes.

You pays your money and you makes your choice and all I am saying is give these guys time. When I introduce a new guy into my team it takes a year or so before they are fully integrated. I know football is slightly different (TIC) but these guys still hardly know each other personally let alone know each others idiosyncrasies on a football pitch.

Just my personal opinion....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 4:32 PM
 
Think they’ve been more successful than us in the last 4 years
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 10:21 PM
 
Think teams mentioned of top of my head have won twelve trophy’s and titles couple of euro finals semi finals do not include charity shields plus euro runs
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 8:37 AM
 
Lets also remember that last year come December we were 17th started getting our act together and made the playoffs. I'm not suggesting that we will do the same and make the Euros but that things sometimes take time and can change. Just because we are a bit disjointed at the moment doesn't mean it will continue for the remainder of the season.
posted by Hints - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 12:38 PM
 
It’s not just the negative posters who get personal and abusive, some of the posters on here do it if anyone disagrees with them.
posted by Rick (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 12:50 PM
 
A year to integrate!!!!!MST no wonder the economy is looking sad , if I said to my line director !give us a year !before I understand this job I would have been out the door that week .
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 3:51 PM
 
MST's Business as usual is a reasonable precis of our current position and the counter opinions make useful points too. Surely we all know the team will take several weeks to gel - and add more weeks for injuries to key players and players having off games. At least SJ has a choice of at least 2 players for every position (maybe not Mitrovic) and that has to be a reasonable starting place. I hope that SJ knows already what his best 11 is but he may not yet have everyone available. I give it until mid November provided we are above the bottom 3. After that I will start to worry.COYW
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 10:26 PM
 
MST, I think it would be a pretty bland message board if everyone subscribed to the feelgood group-think of 'glass half full'. While we may not necessarily agree with the sentiments of the doom merchants, their opinions are just as valid as anyone else's.
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Wow most of you have started to panic!!
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Don't take long to get buried under leaves in a wind.Lets see poch get his tongue round that one.
posted by Albertrn (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 2:05 PM
 
Who’s panicking you stupid boy !!!!!
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I've seen most EPL teams so far (taped) and the worst teams I've seen so far are BHA, Cardiff, West Ham and Burnley. Southampton will struggle too. If we can do better than such as these we will survive. I reckon it might be tighter than we all think. £100 million plus doesn't guarantee success. Playing a flexible game may help!
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Southampton are 1 up against Brighton. They will be on 7 points if they win?
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:10 PM
 
Quite right Owen but then BHA seem to have the knack of getting last minute penalties. Finished 2-2.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:54 PM
 
Southampton 2-Brighton 2. Exiting fare in the 2nd half, but it was pretty poor football, and more like a Championship game. If we finish below either of these sides this season, I will be gobsmacked, as we are a far better team than either of these outfits.
posted by NORMAN (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:58 PM
 
Be prepared to have your gob smacked
posted by Rm (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 7:28 AM
 
Still not feeling it
posted by Rick (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 8:36 AM
 
Norman, you are quite right. I too will be surprised if we finish the season below either of these sides. In my opinion, on last night's showing, they will be two of the teams involved in the relegation battle, something which hopefully, we will not be.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:12 AM
 
Like Norman watched last nights match, and didn't see too much to worry about, and in our own " little league" they would appear to have as many if not more problems than we do!
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I'm surprised we even tried to play them at their own game. Sloppy errors that sank = well actually Spurs at home to Liverpool. But how true of our folly to go to Manchester City away and think we could play with guile. The need for a defence is now critical or will be by Christmas. I advised by Joe Hart for £5 mill and was told I was an idiot. He gets man of the match on Saturday and in the weeks team of best players. We get two goalkeepers who cannot talk English. How much help he could have been to Marus Bettinelli. We never got a sniff and desevered nothing better. They are a top team and showed it. Our best player Christie on a weekend Fredericks could not even get a game! Mawson looks out of sorts still maybe he has come back too soon. The ball to Mitrovic any which way would have been better. We must learn before Watford tear us apart.
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Joe Hart!! Your having a laugh,he’s had a couple of decent games for a very poor side,did you watch him against us?
posted by Mike (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:00 PM
 
Hart let in 4 against us..... we do need to get a solid and consistent defence though. Not sure why he’s mixing it up apart from spreading the load and focussing more on the opposition we are currently competing with. I’m not sure who thinks we are in the same space as City and Spurs just now, next year perhaps.....but give us a chance to get the experience and all will be well.
posted by Dellers (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:15 PM
 
The two new keepers have forced Bett's to up his game and fight for his spot, he has improved in my opinion, made the england squad so we have a keeper who is being kept honest by two decent keepers rather than Button... i would rather have Betts all day long over Joe Hart.
posted by Adam (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:42 AM
 
Happen to think our keeper is equally if not better th@n Hart !!!
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our backline is a bit of a chaos at the moment. until Ream comes back - we must stablise the four. For me until then, we have to stick with the following: Mensah, Odoi, Mawson, Bryant. NO MORE CHANGES.
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Who's Bryant ? At least get their names right
posted by Confused (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 4:45 PM
 
I woke up with the same feeling. Not having Freddo or Targett or Ream has hurt us - think how few mistakes those three made last year. Virtually error free. Plus excellent service and runs forward. Meanwhile, Freddo wasn’t even on the bench for West Ham on Saturday, Targett is behind Bertrand at Southampton. We do need to give the current team more time, but not sure they will measure up to last year’s standards.
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We all know the top 6 is the top 6 virtually guaranteed. The rest of us are fighting for survival, or a top 7 to 10 spot (which is really good). As I pointed out previously, this season is about finding our feet again in the EPL. It will take time with a big insurgence of new players that need time to blend in. So, we lost our first 2 games. No worries. We are then left with 36 games. Divide these into 6 blocks of 6 games each. Block 1; Burnley (3 pts), Brighton (1 pt), Man City (0 pts) = total so far 4 points. We need an average of 7 points each block of 6 games, therefore we need just 3 points from our next 3 games, Watford (H), Everton (A) & Arsenal (H). 3 tough matches, but each block of 6 games will throw up difficult games. We really need to be winning 2 out of 3 home games and picking up a point between the 3 away ones. That gives us our 7 points each block. SIMPLE LOGIC ISN'T IT? LET'S SEE HOW IT PANS OUT...
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Wow - I have to do a refresher on my university statistics to understand. Keep it simple - we need another 33-36 points! I am confident we can get that since I believe we can beat many of the non-top 6 teams. Look at Everton - you'd think they would be the best outside top 6 - even they are more than beatable! Let's not beat ourselves for losing to Man City. Next week against Watford will be the real test to see if we are good enough for the upper half of the rest!
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 12:09 PM
 
Understand your logic Kenny. Bit that worries me is having to win two out of three of our home games, at present even one out of three looks a tall order! Certainly need a win against Watford to get us going again!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 12:14 PM
 
i think its as much about moral and energy this season. i think the management are more than happy to win 3 - 1 then loose 2 - 0 then win 3 - 2 then loose 3 - 0 if they feel that before the match it is either a winnable game or a game not worth getting low about losing. if its an away draw like at brighton it's worth being criticalof the players, because i bet slavisa and his team thought we could win that before the game. playing with this mindset will give the palyers confidence to stick to the same system all season. watford have won 4 games this season yet i bet the management and team genuinly expect we should beat them on saturday. if it works for us this way this season then i bet we will invest a little more for next season and identify a few more games that we should win next year. i also think the one game this year the management would be genuinly disappointed with would be the crystal palace game. other than that i bet they are quite happy therefore they need make sure the players are happy confident and at peace with themselve, and that includes just being beaten 3 - 0. i love the energy coming out of fulham at the moment. i think we'll put wtaford away on saturday and most teams in the league will start to mark fulham at craven cottage as a bastard of a fixture.
posted by gary w (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:04 PM
 
Energy and the second half of the City game were mutually exclusive. I've heard, and accept, most of the "early days" comments, but basically they gave up after half time. That's not conditioning, although that needs major improvement, but a deficit in mental resolve.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:32 PM
 
I can see Watford bruising us of the park on sat,if S/J plays sess at full back we are cooked.Means Bryant will be on bench and if Christie play on other side will be a long 90 minutes,viello seems lost at the moment,the c/backs still not sure who is best ,this is going to be a very tough season,with palace and w/ham winning don't take long to drop into bottom 3 then heads drop.
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:45 PM
 
Watford will most likely be a bruising encounter. It will help the likes of Marchand out if Kev Mac and big Mitro come to defend at set pieces and corners. To be honest, Deeney is a lot to handle. Mawson could have a better game this time around, he needs more game-time. Our strengths will come from keeping ball possession and we will need to do that to have any chance of winning this game. We have plenty of dangers in our attack to score goals, so we can win. Defence needs sorting though.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 2:50 PM
 
Not that difficult to grasp !!! Was thinking 4 points from next two after seeing Everton Sunday not to impressed Watford think we will score against them arsenal we don’t have much luck against them at ffc. Might be due some !!!
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In a very perceptive post Gary wrote "management knew we could never beat/draw with Manchester City". What then, other than money, is the point of being in the PL? In fact, what is the point of the PL? If Gary's analysis is correct, and I believe it is, we're just practise fodder for the top six. Where's the fun in that?
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Sadly, the Premiership is about as fun as swimming in a tank of sharks. It’s exciting, vibrant, nerve wracking and Adrenalin fuelling, but, at the end of the day, you know you aren’t going to survive forever
posted by Rm (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 5:04 AM
 
You should listen to the podcast by Men in Blazers: https://meninblazers.com/2018/09/10/mibpod-shad-kahn-special/ it maight explain what The Guvnor has in mind: firstly survival then taking on the best teams... I recommend it regardless.
posted by Hints - Monday 17th September 2018, 11:15 AM
 
Regardless of what? I saw it and it's good PR but I don't have to swallow it wholesale.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:35 PM
 
Right so management thought we could never win at city so what’s his thinking does he go for parking the bus (Huddersfield ) or say we will play football ( and get bashed in all probability ) to be fair one or two questionable positional starters. Sess for one at left back poor choice in view of city’s expansive play but we got of reasonably lightly against the best team in the league and we as the majority of pundits say played ok and tried to play football not to disappointed overall think ffc can be reasonably Pleased with themselves and manager will presumably play the game the right way ( only downside we should not have coceded two goals at Brighton from a winning position
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 7:09 PM
 
All of the above Len, but I'll give you three basics; Lack of pace, lack of space and lack of spirit. Never mind the technical stuff, there three basic tenets were missing. Slow and cumbersome in the build up (such as it was given the number of give-aways), no creating space off the ball (and no service to Mitro at all) and no effort worth a mention in the entire second half. They basically put heir hands up and accepted their fate. You can argue technicalities until the cows come home but to surrender is simply unacceptable.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 17th September 2018, 8:35 PM
 
I don't believe the team gave up but they really struggled against a team that knew what it was doing. Could argue that 2 sloppy give aways within minutes of start/restart - another day we may have lost 1-0.Arizona is right though to say lack of pace and no creating space off the ball. The latter is a real worry. Continually short passing is almost guaranteed to be stopped/intercepted. SJ should get his possession game to include a few long and successful passes. That is, get the ball away from the pack. If you want to see fast attacking possession football, Wolves are pretty good!
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 8:57 PM
 
Spurs too, as Tripier demonstrated at the Cottage
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SJ statement that he would not put 11 men in the box worries me.If we are playing a team where we are odds on to lose then losing by one instead of five should be the aim.Sticking to OUR STYLE is all very well but not at te cost of a goal difference which may mean relegation. Survival is the name of game in this league.Rather the odd boring game than the prospects of playing QPR next season.
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Stop, think & enjoy. Things could be different or worst.. We could be watching long balls over & out... so support COYW
posted by Mac (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 9:45 PM
 
Well, I can see some logic in playing the same style against better players and getting better st it such that you might pick up more points against lesser teams. After all 1 extra point is worth more than any goal difference. However. That approach seems harder to justify when it seems the back 4 is chosen by drawing lots. Having said that I personally, I have faith that will improve and accept we don’t know if there were any issues with the players coming back. Also, we will get many more points in the long unbeaten run thyhats scheduled to start in January.
posted by JimmyJazz (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 9:58 PM
 
Slav knows what he is doing. He is playing players for experience. No matter what 11 you turned out we would lose at Man City. Thank god he picked a team to have a go and learn unlike Jol our 5-0 at Lpool. If you pick 10 defenders as some are suggesting you get nothing from the game. As it is Ryan S has learnt. Scherule knows he is in that class and Mitro knows he needs to drop off to get the ball.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:06 PM
 
Well, I can see some logic in playing the same style against better players and getting better st it such that you might pick up more points against lesser teams. After all 1 extra point is worth more than any goal difference. However. That approach seems harder to justify when it seems the back 4 is chosen by drawing lots. Having said that I personally, I have faith that will improve and accept we don’t know if there were any issues with the players coming back. Also, we will get many more points in the long unbeaten run thats scheduled to start in January.
posted by JimmyJazz (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:19 PM
 
Another one of the last years november moaners H B, ffs give the team time to gel. Feckin moan moan W@@kers here. Rome wasn't built in a day, ffs.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 12:14 AM
 
Yeah, but we wer'nt on that job
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Great talent, but not a lucky man. Deserved more.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:24 PM
 
Agreed. Yet another footballing great who ended up on skid row, highlighting the gulf between those guys and today's over-indulged, over-tattood and overpaid players.
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 3:08 PM
 
Just a final word on Alistair Cook. A very modest man who seemed pleased to have in his own words " a half decent career"Maybe we will never see the likes of his type representing his country again.
posted by Harry (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 4:27 PM
 
Great player. Did a Gazza after his playing days were over. He used to drink in the Tabbard Inn, Ipswich run by Alan Sunderland who also finished up in ReHab. Our Bobby Robson signed him after Liverpool FC failed to meet him off the train as a youngster at Liverpool Lime Street. Something Bill Shankley never forgave himself for. Brilliant centre back for club and country what more can you say. Probably only Bobby Moore in my lifetime was better.
posted by Rich of Cambridge (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 8:12 PM
 
Doubt I will !!! Great batsman and captain of his country and a great role model !,
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Have faith!
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 1:13 PM
 
Watching that game one thing was certain the entire team looked knakkered,passes going astray,almost looked like they were waiting for final whistle.100 mill plus spent so far amounts to nothing , s/j don't seem to know what to do with back 4 , keeps changing it never the same ,sess full back again !! why?, never did nothing ,his value is dropping by the week. Bryant and sess in front of him,christie out,mawson and chambers in middle for now ,can see Watford roughing us up we look so soft easy to take out ,Watford bruisers will chance there arm and it will be bash st kids versus snooties mob,(for older viewers). Keep comparing us to Bournmouth with any over seas players, my yard stick for now.
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:23 PM
 
Sorry meant not many overseas players.and yes know it was city.
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:27 PM
 
We were playing against one of the best teams in Europe,I was at the match and apart from a couple of sloppy passes and defensive errors we gave a very good account of ourselves,anybody who expects to match a team of that ability so early on in the season should go and support Chelsea or Tottenham to avoid future disappointments
posted by Mike (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:38 PM
 
No different against palace or brighton ,wolves never had any trouble with city,they went for it ,we just seemed to be the victims of awfull tactics
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:47 PM
 
Wolves have been playing together a lot longer than us. For gods sake give it time. It will come good trust me im a lorry driver
posted by geezer (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 3:15 PM
 
Sessegnon is only 18, how can we put so much pressure on him? Playing left back against City and bombing up and down the wing to do defensive duties is too much to ask. He was on a hiding to nothing. Marchands flakey reputation stays intact for another week. He will be put back into the arena and who awaits him? One Troy Deeney!!! We need Bryan and Reamy back. We can excuse Mawson because it was really his first proper game back. This league can be a bit physical, with the likes of Deeney. He hangs out with Joshua and he isn't messing about. We need defenders to stand up and be counted. If we move the ball well like we did against Burnley, we have a great chance of beating Watford. We could do with Cairney back in midfield also...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:15 PM
 
Needed you back Owen nice and positive
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:18 PM
 
Thanks, DMK i will try and stay that way...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:36 PM
 
Desperate to get Ream back
posted by Rm (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 7:32 PM
 
Sold Sess. You don’t go to games mate and are a Brentford fan or should I be. He is one of our own and will get 100 caps. YKFA
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:08 PM
 
Still not feeling it.
posted by Rick (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:21 PM
 
Unless we get our act together sooner rather than later Mr Sessegon and his brother will be long gone. Fact. He needs the other members of our squad to start playing as Premiership players as he is still very much developing. If Tottenham think he is going there for £40 mill they can think again. If I was Ryan I would aim for one of the Manchester teams or Liverpool if they can afford him and I would stick out for £100 mill and take £80 mill if push comes to. But he has still not signed another contract with Fulham yet so could we see him walk away like a certain Mr Moussa Dembelle? Wonder if we are going to get any of the £80 mill that Celtic FC got from Olympique Lyonnais?
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When you face teams teams like Man City, Man U,Liverpool, Chelsea . Arsenal & Spurs they all have World class players who will punish any mistakes made by the opposition. We have several very good players who once they have settled into the side will hopefully earn us enough points to survive our first year back which is realy what we want. Anything above the bottom three will in my humble opinion will be a bonus.
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There are two leagues in the premier league. We all know that! If premier league was golf, the top six teams would be scratch golfers and the rest are handicap 10 or more. But it doesn’t mean the gap with an handicap can f 10 can never beat the scratch golfers. A bit of luck and a bit more game management - you’d never know.
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 1:09 PM
 
Well rest assured wherever we finish in the table, it will surely not be in the bottom three. Although we have been here before, we are once again beginners in the Premier League, and as such it might take a little time to find our feet, but we will. Believe it or not, we have a really good squad of players, who once they really gel we will start winning on a regular basis, and although we will not tear up any trees in our first season back, we will finish the season in a healthy position in the table, probably around the 10th or 11th spots. That folks is really all we can ask for, before pushing on next season.
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What’s up with bbc? They show every two bit shot of City but don’t even show Mitros shot which needed a serious save right at the end.
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Does it really matter- we were second best all over the pitch today so what does that shot amount to
posted by Dave g (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:17 AM
 
Baz, we have far bigger issues than the BBC to contend with!
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I know when someone plays well ( most of the time) and I know when they played badly, I’m not qualified to suggest tactics, 3 at the back 4-4-2 or even 1-10, but I do know when the team selection is sh*t and it was today. No matter what way I look at it I cannot begin to fathom what Jokanovic was thinking. Why no Bryan ? (he is a left back) Why no Menhsa, he’s twice the player Christie is. Both have, when given the opportunity, been playing better in these positions than anyone else. Why Sessingnon at left back again, unbelievable? As someone said when Odoi( and I love him) is your best defender you’ve got problems. Defence is our problem, we’re not playing the players most suited to the position and seemingly perming any 4 from whatever. Hallo, they don’t know what they’re doing! As for substitutions, when we’re being run ragged, I know what to do, beef up the defence....nah! let’s switch front men that should work. Flaming clueless. We were lucky we didn’t ship 10.
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7 or 8 of the players played today are from last year's team! So we put out a championship team against probably the best team in Europe and tried to play football against them. No Chance! But I think part of the issue is neither Schrulle or Vietto defended! Against a good team we need our wide players running up and down all day long! Both players appear to be playing higher up than Mitro. I am not sure we can blame everything on the boss - he can't control mistakes!
posted by John (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 11:04 PM
 
all you do is moan mortlake same as you did last november, call yourself a supporter, 1st season back in premiership we know our shortcomings with 11/12 new signings and they need time to gel. So do me a favour shut ya gash and see how we go in november then moan again, you miserable old fcuk.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 11:45 PM
 
Hmmm, charming. He's entitled to his opinion, as you are to yours except his is much better stated. Your post, on the other hand, is a rant. Is "wait and see" all you've got? If so, why bother posting?
posted by The Arizonan - Sunday 16th September 2018, 12:48 AM
 
Spot on Mortlake
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:25 AM
 
Also it won’t be as tough as that every week .Man City have the best players best manager and richest owners and they were at home so let’s focus on getting results against the others and don’t beat ourselves up too badly about yestrtdays result
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:33 AM
 
Know we were playing class team and other games won’t be so hard but tactics and team selection were bad today spot on Mortlake
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 8:23 AM
 
Agree DMK didn't expect anything at all but his team selection and tactics baffled me. Several players were just overrun and didn't have a clue what to do.
posted by the pope (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 8:56 AM
 
Thanks for the support Arazonan :) Never Say Die you are without the most offensive gutter snipe on here. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you post a comment expressing any opinion, only your snide bile. As to my constantly moaning, I think not, you appear to have an inferiority complex and comment only on those posts of mine that could be said to be critical. My comments were valid and quite a number of posters would appear to agree with the content, whereas yours I suspect would garner very little support. Just give it up, I am obviously far more lucid in my comments and intelligent than you. Suggest you cut your loses and stop embarrassing yourself.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:16 AM
 
Not to question jokas tactics but sess left back no we have better full backs at club as much as I like sess have the occasional doubt on his value justification !! But he’s still young and hope I’m proved wrong !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:29 AM
 
Mortlake right we got of lightly today but we played the best team in the land and we g@ve them a goal start doubt we will have a settled side for at least a month so we need to be competitive with teams around us and keep that gap between us and bottom three expect two be below us most of year and the way hammers are going points will be hard to come by for a few weeks have not looked at others yet need something saturday expect at least a draw
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:37 AM
 
he clearly wants to use bryan and mensha against watford, millwall and everton because these are games we can win. it's important to put sessegnoin in against the best players because he is going to develop over the next few seasons and desperatly needs this kind of experience. why not play that back line yesterday, they are good enough to play in the premier league, odoi is probably the quickest of all the center back and city weren't going to be hoping for set pieces to score, it was all going to come along the ground. I think if he had played his strongest line up at the back the result would have been the same with the exception of perhaps losing a bit more morale and sessignion and christie would miss out on game time as they won't be starting the next two games. the results are about the course of the season not individual games. the management knew we would never beat/draw at city
posted by gary w (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 12:01 PM
 
To be fair it looked like SJ purposely played the defence high up to try and frustrate MC.However after the first goal it was apparent this tactic was not going to work.That was the time to change tactics.
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 12:17 PM
 
Yep, I agree with all that Len. Gary w. makes some very interesting points. Hadn’t looked at it from that standpoint and you could well be right, makes sense. As I said before, I steer as far from tactics and strategies as I can and try to restrict my comments to what I’ve seen on the pitch. Leave the clever bits to those better qualified.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 1:59 PM
 
Tactics, strategies whatever used against City, i would still think that Marchand needs game-time in that left back position more than Sessegnon. We were always going to lose whatever, but Sess would have benefited and been more useful further up the pitch. That detail still makes no sense, and i think that Slavisa knew it was a suicide and thankless task playing Sess left back. I think he had that script written even before kick-off. Nevertheless, that game was a rest-bite for the likes of Marchand. He will need to show his swashbuckling abilities up against sabre-teeth Troy Deeney next game. It doesn't get any easier this prem life and all our back four whoever is put out on the pitch need to grow a pair and find more character and play together or we fold into meltdown. Our midfield need to keep that ball also, that is imperative...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:09 PM
 
mortlake, its as simple as this, we have assembled a new squad over 100 million spent an unprecedented move by our owners who have shown their intent by backing Joka and you lower than a SEWER RAT consistently moan whilst I back my team thru thick and thin. If there is no upturn in form fine, maybe back to the drawing board but Joka and Fulham have my 100%. Back your team and stop moaning. Simple as that.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 12:20 AM
 
You need to wind your neck in son and stop insulting people. When you grow up you might understand why.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 5:53 AM
 
The time i wind my neck in is when the moaners give our team a chance to gel, if it don't work then you ll have a legitimate right to complain 2 or 3 months down the line. Is that alright Ari.
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I am not sure who replace Gray as our defensive coach? If that’s Parker -that’s a big mistake! It took Stuart 18months to sort out our defence. I know Premier league cannot compare with the championship but we have definitely gone backwards! We’ve had defence calamity in 3 of our 5 games so far! Where was the discipline. When Odoi is your best defender, you know you have a lot of work to do! We need to sort that out soon. We can’t giift our oppositions goals and when under attack, we need to have a shape! Bring back Stuart Gray!
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Play Chambers and Mawson together as centre backs like they played together in the England under 21’s , Bryan at left back and Fonsou Mensa on the right and hope Ream when fit challenges the centre pairing and teach Le Marchand how to pass to someone in a Fulham shirt out from the back. Odoi is reckless
posted by Keetch54 - Saturday 15th September 2018, 8:53 PM
 
Stuart Gray was a far bigger loss to us than Fredericks.
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You stupid boy!
posted by Capt Mainwaring (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 5:30 PM
 
We all wanted top flight football, well this is what it's all about.There were a few dreamers amongst our fans who thought we might finish in the top six. We now know we will have to be at our best to pick up polnts against the so called lesser sides And the next game will another severe test!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:10 PM
 
Some supporters on here make me sick. Not one of us if we are truthful expected anything other than a loss today, and by all accounts we played very well and we could have had a couple of goals in the second half. Today we played one of the best sides in Europe, who are favourites for not only the League title, but the Europa Cup, as well. Just see how many, if any win at Manchester this season, probably not any, and they will lose by bigger margins. We can judge how much we have improved when we play City at home in the second half of the season. Next Saturday we are home to Watford, a club on our level, so hopefully our season will be back on track.
posted by A C (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:11 PM
 
Well played
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:27 PM
 
Big Sam; what planet are you on Pete? As for AC's comment, he couldn't have seen the game that I watched. We were awful and SJ's style was totally exposed. Don't write us off just yet though. May is a long way off. COYW
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:36 PM
 
Watfrod our level just watched them play ManU were not at there level yet lot to learn but big Sam you must be joking
posted by DMK (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 7:36 PM
 
I was hopeful it would be a goal fest for both sides. Like most have said ManC are top for a reason. I'm not to down hearted with the score it was expected. Bring on Watford Coyw....
posted by Mac (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 8:30 PM
 
Man City are in the Champions League not Europa. They were in charge all second half and if they tried they could have got more. Mitro nearly got one right at the end.They were so fast when they arracked and we were slow and some of our attacks ended with us passing back to Betts who saved us a number of times. If we are to play passing games then our passes need to be much better, City’s first goal was from a woeful pass, I had a good view of it.
posted by BAZ (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 10:13 PM
 
Do us a favour , support Brentford you tosser. fat sam no way.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 11:26 PM
 
I was at today's game, and it was a long drive home, but I was home in time to watch MOTD. You would have thought from what they showed on the TV, that we were completely outplayed, and to a degree we were at times, but we had a number of slight chances, and they did not show Mitro's chance near the end that brought out a really good save from their keeper. We will play a lot worse tan we did today and win, so don't go losing any sleep over this one result, and look forward to our next home game, when we have a very good chance of beating Watford, and then go on a small run of unbeaten matches. COYW
posted by NORMAN (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 12:12 AM
 
Well said, Norman !
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We need to be fielding two teams this year - a defensive one against the top 6, an offensive team against the rest. That team, with Schurrle and Vietto, was chosen today and never had a chance. The side Joka picked against Spurs was much more likely to compete. Sess in a defensive role against City, not a good idea. But also — teams are waiting for our square passes and pouncing. Mistakes are killing us!!!!!
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If we fielded a defensive team we’d still lost anyway and some of us would criticise why we didn’t it a go. If we didn’t lose and goal in the first minute, by the way not only that killed the teams confidence, It also killed Seri’s (our only creative player) contribution for the rest of the game, the game could be different. But city is just too good for us - end of! Don’t start blaming team selections and tactics.
posted by John (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 5:21 PM
 
Sess should not be playing left back he needs to play in front of a left back or not play at all in defensive matches like this . Bryan should be allowed time to form an understanding with Sess down the left and Schurrle should play in the middle behind Mitro . The manager is struggling to find his best team as he did last year but the Premiership is not so forgiving . COYWS
posted by ffc supporter (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 5:58 PM
 
Sorry, disagree. Vietto especially was a mistake. Sess offers more tracking back and Bryan is a better defender than Sess right now. Not saying we would win, but there were better options.
posted by Drago (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:01 PM
 
Was not happy with side before game needed Sessegnon in front of Byron today Seri mistake did kill game but he’s been great can’t blame him. We would of needed bit of luck to get anything today. But must cut out mistakes and get street wise quick pretty football alone won’t keep us up there is times when you must clear your lines that’s why we did not win at Brighton
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Is there anyone with at least half a brain out there that thought Fulham would get a point out of this match? No, I don't think so. It therefore is a wise man that fields a weaker team to give the proper defenders a further break before next week against Watford. 0 points is 0 points whether 1-0 or 10-0. It is just goal difference. The pity is for the fans that made the trek. They should be fully reimbursed there outlay by the club. If we win next week then Joka is once again a hero....
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Got to agree. Run away and fight another day. Lost a battle today. But not the war.
posted by Geezer (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 4:39 PM
 
Wrong team chosen, completely outclassed, why hasn’t our best team been selected, never seen such a one sided game,
posted by JRD (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 4:49 PM
 
Hope that means replacing Betts, terrible goalkeeping for first goal, first bad kick out and should have been off his line quicker to smother the cross. Betts can’t play the way Joka wants with his feet, time to replace him with Rico
posted by Roger (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 4:56 PM
 
Love to think that the setup was a brilliant wheeze by SJ. But fear the set up and selection may have just been incompetence.Expected more after spending 100m
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 5:07 PM
 
Very hard to read JS. If this was the back 4 he trained in Spain then we definitely need a backup plan. Someone suggests that SJ is saving our best back 4 to play Watford. When you're trying to get a back 4 to gel, the best plan is to keep playing them together. Playing 1 touch short passing against Man City is a waste of time. They were half a yard quicker than us in almost every department. But the real problem today was midfield. We had nobody who could exercise a grain of control and direction. Short passes from the back to midfield were given away or lost, hence not much sent up to our forwards and almost constant attacks against us. Seri had a day off. Has he been away on international duty and come back injured? He looked knackered and Mitro did not look energetic and sharp. I suggest SJ must have a back up plan - you cannot play the same possession attacking style against every team - a few do it much better than us. And SJ will have to get Mr Khan to spend a bit more in January. Come back soon TC and stop blaming Betts. Maybe he should have done better for the first goal but look again and see how many players watched the loose balls that were frequently bobbing about our goal mouth. 3-0 was a lucky score for us so lets be grateful and move on.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 5:29 PM
 
All part of the learning circle so hopefully a good lesson was had by all the future will tell. Billy
posted by billybee (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:00 PM
 
Our loss to City was more or less expected, but a few details don't add up for me. Why didn't Marchand play? Along with Chambers? Why again put Sess in that dreaded left back position? Sessegnon was out of his depth and those little runs up and down the pitch is counterproductive. Slavisa didn't look too flustered on how the game was going. The scene was set when Seri gave the ball away for their first goal. After that, we looked disjointed and there was no way we were going to get any momentum back in the game. City was just too way ahead of us on the offensive. Did Slavisa accept damage limitations against City? How near is Ream to fitness? We need him back for sure. Bryan, Mearchand, Chambers, and Ream if he is fit will probably play against Watford. We can have a better shape than against Man City, and they have hammered better teams than Fulham. It will not be a surprise to me if Sessegnon plays a lot further forward next week. Slavisa is a sly old dog, and we will be more together against Watford. We played almost like a Barcelona 'B' team against Burnley. Back to normal next week folks!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 7:57 PM
 
Good post Willie, have to agree with your comments regarding midfield. To play the ball retention game you need a dominant midfielder. Seri had a bad day and we need TC back. I don’t think we have played that well since the season started. I do though feel confident enough that once SJ gets to know his best eleven we will improve a lot and will harder to beat.
posted by Tony c (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 9:25 AM
 
still not feeling it
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Terrible defensive line up. Awful tactics against the best side in the league. Joka is looking like a Joker. How did he think we could have 3 up front against the best team on the break in the country? A thrashing.... what will this do for the team morale and the fans that have bravely travelled....
 
 
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Thing Jokanovic things it’s a easy game Sessegnon left back when he’s better attacking. He don’t rate Byron be gone by January maybe swap deal for Targett 7-0 City
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I’m worried for today, having Sessegnon, Odoi and Christie in the back 4 must be the weakest we’ve ever been. I thought he was supposed to be working with back 4 in Spain, should have been Fosnah,Mawson,Chambers and Bryan that seems so much stronger which it will need to be today.
posted by Roger (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 2:50 PM
 
Every so often, I wonder whether Jokanovic is the real deal. Today, I have to wonder, as I just don’t get his game plan....PLEASE let me be wrong
posted by Rm (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 3:00 PM
 
DOH !!!
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Trust me!
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OK :)
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 7:56 AM
 
Also assume you are a Hard Brexiteer forecasting Sunny Uplands outside the EU?
posted by Rm (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 9:43 AM
 
But what about Fulham?
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 9:59 AM
 
Fulham 3 Man city 2 COYW.....
posted by Mac (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 11:08 AM
 
Wrote previously, heart says draw head says 6-2 defeat. Hope I’m wrong as it’s a long way to drive and walk from where I parked for a disappointment.
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When someone on this site suggested in the summer transfer window we sign Jack Wiltshire I po po'ed it because he has been constantly injured over the past few years at Arsenal and Bournemouth, why would we want a second mid-fielders who is injury prone. Bet the lads at the London statium are pleased, especailly with Nul points. Got to prove that we can play some without Tom C. Prediction maybe Nil Nil would be good to sneak a point but Nil 1 to Fulham would be even better!
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Way his played last few years when fit (which is not a lot) not good enough for our team
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Man Ciy have two players missing press go on and on about it.we got Cairney and Ream missing two very important players for us hardly a mention
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Would neither one of them make it into their squad? Maybe that’s why.... but don’t worry we have Seri and Mitro! Both good enough for their bench if not their starting line up!
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 14th September 2018, 2:24 PM
 
Still two of our better players
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 14th September 2018, 9:45 PM
 
As someone once said it’s a funny old game !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 14th September 2018, 9:46 PM
 
Man city 7---foooools 0-zilch,nowt, f##k all,nada!!! Hahahahaha!!!
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Have we any chance beating Man City
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Win Lose or draw? This game could be an exciting game for the neutrals Holly. We have had a fantastic training session in Spain, looking at Fulham TV. We have cultured great passing movement, just like they will. They have at least 2 players out in Sterling and Bernardo, Bernardo is very good. It would be nice to beat them, but whatever the outcome it should be a great game of football. I am hoping that Mearchand, Mawson and co have a good game, thats the main detail about this Fulham team really. A improvement is all that is required, and i think most Fulham fans will accept any result against a powerful outfit like Man City...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 11:52 PM
 
I expect nothing less than an 8-8 draw coyw
posted by Herman (Guest) - Friday 14th September 2018, 6:03 AM
 
One of the main reasons for getting back into the Premier League, is to play matches against the likes of Man City, Liverpool, Man United, Chelsea Spurs and Arsenal. Like the other 14 teams in this league, we are looking for scraps at the table of the big 6, and occasionally like Wolves who picked up a point against Man City, there might be the odd fluke result. We must treat matches against the top of the table sides as a challenge, but we must not be too downhearted if we come away with no points against such rivals, but what we must do is to enjoy playing them, both home and away, and then make sure that we improve in our games against them as the season unfolds. One newspaper suggests that we will lose 5-1 tomorrow, but we will do better than that, and I will expect either a 3-1 or a 2-0 loss, although playing well, and then look for another 3 points against Watford next Saturday.
posted by A C (Guest) - Friday 14th September 2018, 10:02 AM
 
Really looking forward to seeing this excellent Fulham side mixing it with the big guns. Martin Jol would always go into these games with a damage limitation agenda,a tactic that was both scandalous and morale sapping. He reasoned that we should keep something back for the supposedly more winnable games turning our once gutsy team into a side just desperate to cling to our Premier League place. The results of this cowardly stance are now history. Thankfully Jokanovic will have none of this and whatever happens on Saturday we will have given it our best shot.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Friday 14th September 2018, 10:25 AM
 
Should be a good test of our team, still not convinced about Le Marchand, hopefully he will have worked on his distribution. Game like this should suit Seri, Mitro will give them a hard time. COYW
posted by Tony C (Guest) - Friday 14th September 2018, 2:16 PM
 
Feels like Nov 2012 at Arsenal all over again. 3-3 with Jesus missing a penalty in the 94th minute...
posted by bassim - Friday 14th September 2018, 6:47 PM
 
ManC should be capable of carving through our defence, because we don't just park the bus, but play attractive attacking football that is effective against poorer sides. If we can get away with a scoring draw, or even if we do our fans proud of our own quality, it would stand us in good stead for the season. For the purist and neutral football fans, I'm convinced it will be an exciting game to watch. As a bonus, it should be a lesson learnt that we could emulate and get a result against Watford at CC.
posted by stephen terry (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 4:51 AM
 
@ Keetch, a little longer than a week but you were right...;-)
posted by Hints - Saturday 15th September 2018, 7:47 AM
 
Shock!! Not feeling it then.
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What’s wrong with Tim Ream ? Must be a serious injury . He is a big miss the last 2 seasons he has been arguably our best player and in the play off against Villa was the best player on the pitch . We need you back asap
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Jokanovic said today Ream has a back problem and we have not fond a solution for it yet his been missing since start of season and is very important to us but will be missing for few weeks yet because not been working with us
posted by DMK (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 6:26 PM
 
Well, he’d better start finding a solution, as we desperately need him back
posted by Rm (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 6:52 PM
 
Shaw do RM
posted by DMK (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 7:02 PM
 
Backs can be dodge if gets better never no when it will go again poor Ream he did so much to get us to Premiership deservice prem football hope he’s back soon
posted by Badger (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 9:12 PM
 
When your old back plays up can take ages to put right sometimes it never does I can vouch for that !!
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Two post world cup games have shown us that we are not in the top 6 European teams. Let's stop kidding ourselves, our strikers (including Kane) are just not good enough and the defence is frail. Switzerland are known for their tight defence but they came very close to scoring against us. We have a strong premier league but most of the quality is imported. What's the answer?
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The thing is Willie is that they didn't score and England won the game....next
posted by AH (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 1:08 PM
 
Bodes well for the future , not !!!
posted by Dave (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 1:42 PM
 
Right tactics wrong players. Pick the players from clubs who are playing out from the back as Southgate wants to do. There are plenty of them in the PL - FFC, Wolves, Man City, Everton, etc. Maybe they aren’t as good as some of the current England crop but at least they are used to playing the system and maybe with their experience will make up for the loss of quality and we might see an improvement in results?
posted by MST (Moderator) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 8:52 PM
 
Pains me to say not bothered about warching England anymore last generation of English footballers has put me of a bit although current crop seem more animated to play also can’t stand watching any friendly games don’t think this new league will change that criteria !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 8:08 AM
 
don't think anyone kidded themselves we were in the top six.Had a dream run in the world cup against mediocre teams and beat two of them. He's doing the best he can with a small bunch of players. Unless we ever bring in a limit to the number of oversees players playing in the top leagues it will never change. Sad but true.
posted by The pope (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 10:08 AM
 
Can’t agree Pope; we didn’t qualify for world cups from 74 to 82 and there were no foreign players here then. Foreign players in the prem have made us better in my opinion and it’s the coaches and managers that have failed us.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 3:32 PM
 
The problem is younger players go to clubs like city and Chelsea but never get played. They end up being loaned out and never getting the experience to take them forward. Some premier team will play Saturday without a single English player. Germany had a rule that clubs had to play so many German players each week and despite their World Cup they have always been better than us. Well other than 66.
posted by The pope (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 4:57 PM
 
You are correct AH. But the Swiss rarely do score although they came close against us (twice). I have to say this and without picking a single player out, Welbeck tries hard but was not good enough for Man U or Arsenal. How then can he be considered for England? Why does Southgate keep playing Sterling - he's a striker? He rarely scores at international level and he loses the ball a lot. Why not change someone else? I still maintain we are a poor national side.
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Here is one for you MW. I just had a check up and my doctor said, "Don't eat anything fatty". I said "Like bacon and burgers?" He said, "No fatty, don't eat anything!"
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A better one is "hey chris, no don't, hey chris eat anything fatty! Hey." Chris
posted by Samward (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 9:11 PM
 
CoJ made me hoot!:)). A woman goes to her doctor complaining of parrot noises coming from her nether regions. "Hmmm, I think you've had a cockatoo in there" came his diagnosis.
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 10:39 AM
 
Nice one MW. Some fella called Carl has be breading into houses and ruining washing machines by putting bricks in them and turning them on. Sadly Carl passed away recently, however washing machines live longer with Carl gone!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Thursday 13th September 2018, 2:11 PM
 
Am lovin' that one!:)) A squid with a bad tummy upset asks a whale if he knew of a doctor.No worries said he, my brother is a doctor he'll sort you out. What you got there? said his brother when they reach him, Oh nuthin' really just this sick squid I owe you.
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 4:30 PM
 
Excellent! A little boy gets home from school and says: "Dad, I've got a part in the school play and I am playing a man who has been married for 25 years. His Dad replied, "Never mind son, hopefully next time you will get a talking part"!
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is going up. Went past yesterday and saw it's being built fast. They're moving in 2020. Yet, our one stand won't be done until 2021? Odd...........
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Our will be made of bricks and mortar not lego.
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 11:16 AM
 
Plus we have the small issue of the Thames to contend with. Hardly like for like!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 11:18 AM
 
Why is it odd doing ours while still useing ground they have new site makes it easier . And we had residents objecting we had to please . Everything in life is different
posted by DMK (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 11:23 AM
 
A burglary was recently committed at Griffin Park and the entire contents of the trophy room were stolen. The police are looking for a man with a red and white carpet.
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 11:45 AM
 
It’s both easy and cheap to build a new stadium with a capacity of 30,000 or so. Those who went to Brighton will see that its more like an exercise in meccano. Refurbishing and extending is a whole different ball game
posted by Rm (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 11:46 AM
 
Once they've built it they have 10 days to move on. All they need to do is hook it up to the 4x4 and off the go leaving loads of Rubbish and dog mess , sorry dag mess , behind. How about Shepherd's Bush green. They would fit in nicely there. They could party with all the qpr scag 'eds and pi22 artists. Lucky heather anyone ?
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 12:12 PM
 
30,000 RM? Did you stutter on some 0's?
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 12:21 PM
 
...I was referring to any potential for Craven Cottage. Incremental development is expensive and time consuming
posted by Rm (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 1:41 PM
 
Ah, I thought you meant Brentford were building a 30,000 stadium! That would be a waste of 22,000 seats!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 2:03 PM
 
There ground being built on land fill site ( rubbish dump) ours on prime location bit mor3 complicated as we know. From previous efforts to expand !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 8:11 AM
 
Rubbish dump sums it up lolz
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Thursday 13th September 2018, 12:16 PM
 
 
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I am surprised there are yet no comments on Mitro’s superb goal for Serbia last night!! If that was scored by Messi or Ronaldo, it will add to their collection of wonder goals! Wow! Takes a lot of confidence to even think about scoring while surrounded by 3 defenders! What a buy!
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100% agree John. What great goals.
posted by Jim (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 6:04 PM
 
 
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All FFC hi, I have a ticket to the Watford game and I can’t make it now. Anyone interested? It’s in H6 row U Best J
 
 
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How come I, as a season ticket holder for years have not got enough privileges to buy tickets for any of the upcoming home games? Even Bournemouth, Leicester etc. Last time we were in the Prem I could get at least two for even the biggest games. Guessing they've all been held back for corporates
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This is what most people wanted. The glory of the top flight
posted by paul (Guest) - Tuesday 11th September 2018, 2:36 PM
 
Does that even begin to address the issue raised?
posted by ST Holder (Guest) - Tuesday 11th September 2018, 3:21 PM
 
That's weird. It's true that people who have membership, have priority over even STHs for a short period. Personally, I'm not convinced this is great policy, but think for most games there should be plenty for STHs. Anyway, yesterday logged in with STH account and could buy tickets for Watford and Bournemouth games. I didn't look for others, but for sure these ones are available to STH with just under 700 points. Only Putney end left for Watford mind. I'm not sure if there is even threshold for loyalty points on these games, so if oyu can't buy tickets, maybe call the ticket office and check. Good Luck.
posted by JimmyJazz (Guest) - Wednesday 12th September 2018, 9:15 AM
 
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4hc_x7u9Q
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And the point of that post is?
posted by Chris of Jokes - Tuesday 11th September 2018, 5:23 PM
 
A load of big girls blouses
posted by Reggi (Guest) - Tuesday 11th September 2018, 6:27 PM
 
Comedy Gold!
posted by Paulo (Guest) - Tuesday 11th September 2018, 10:23 PM
 
 
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I know we are only 5 games into the season and players can change very quickly - but here are my Hits and Misses.

Rico (5m) - MISS
Ramirez (loan) - MISS
Chambers (loan) - MISS
LA Marchand (5m) - MISS
Fosu-Mensah (Loan) - HIT
Bryan (8m) - MISS
Mawson (15m) - HIT
Seri (25m) - SMASH HIT
Zambo (20m)- HIT
Mitro (20m)- SMASH HIT
Schurrie (Loan) - SMASH HIT
Vietto (5m)- HIT

There's a clear pattern here. Either our outfield players are not helping the defenders or we are not very good at scouting defensive players!!
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John, I agree with you in the most part, but I certainly don't agree with you, that Chambers, La Marchand and Joe Bryan are misses. I have a lot of faith in La Marchand, as I am sure that he will get better and better as the season goes on. Chambers, I am still open minded, but at this stage I certainly don't make him a miss. As far as Joe Bryan is concerned, in my opinion he is an extremely talented player, and we did well to sign him he will prove to be a far better defender/attacker then Targett, over the season, mark my words. It's still a bit early in the season, to make hit or miss decisions on any player, so come back after 10 matches and make a further review, John.
posted by NORMAN (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 10:16 AM
 
With some players missing in Spain. Slavisa Started with a back line of Odoi Mawson Le Marchand and Bryan. Chambers played in front of the defence. I thought they all played well, and although that won't be our starting line up in the league, It's good to know that we have strength in depth and I wouldn't call any of them a miss. I must admit that I wasn't impressed by the Spanish goalkeepers, who played a half each. Betts is still my number one.
posted by Bert (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 10:33 AM
 
Agreed, I'd say it's too early to tell. I largely agree with your Hits and Misses, but can see Chambers and La Marchand adapting pretty quickly to Fulham's style in the Prem. I think our signings have been incredibly impressive, and can see a mid-table finish perfectly realistic. As long as we pick up some points on the road against some of our rival teams, I feel that we're in for a pretty good first season back.
posted by Dan (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 10:45 AM
 
I agree with Norman.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 11:34 AM
 
The only signing I have reservations about, and you didn’t mention him John, is Fabri. Can’t assess Rico, as I haven’t seen him play, has anyone? ‘Cos I missed it.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 11:38 AM
 
Somebody had better tell Southgate that you don't have to pick Spurs players just because they play ay Wembley. After the world cup, where we could only score from set pieces, the reality set in on Saturday. People like Kane and Ali are not good enough against people who keep possession and play most of their football on the ground. To call Ali a midfield player is stretching it a bit. We have an opportunity this week to play a different style and leave the so called 'stars' at home. We could adopt a different approach by actually playing a lot of football through the midfield and have players who want the ball and can do a bit when they get it. We cant just play people who put bums on seats. Spain proved how poor we are on Saturday, and it's up to the FA to recognise why we cannot compete at the highest level.
posted by FulhamAddict (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 11:59 AM
 
Joe Bryan, I think, is a smash hit. Mawson - have we seen enough of him yet on which we can form any opinion? Still, high hopes for him anyway. The goalkeepers we bought have been a mystery, and I would love to know the background as to why goalkeeping coach Jose Sambade Carreira has left just two games. My impression is that Jokanovic, in whom I think we all have a lot of faith, doesn’t tolerate fools or failure easily. One mistake, OK. Two mistakes and you are out.
posted by peterjeremy - Monday 10th September 2018, 4:42 PM
 
I think Bryan and Vettio will turn out to be top performers, maybe Mawson (early days) will join them. But it will take a few more games to show how solid or otherwise our defence is. I'm not unhappy with Betts but he needs better in front of him; and he must improve his distribution which I think is why SJ brought 2 new keepers, even though poorly advised. Let's reassess at the end of October.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 5:06 PM
 
The comment on England without Kane and Ali will not go down well with Spurs fans but FulhamAddict makes a fair point. Spain outplayed us in nearly every department and apart from the lack of penetration of Spurs without Ericson, our senior backs were badly missed. Luke Shaw was fired up but needs a bit more experience at top level, he was great going forward but defensively wanting, which is a common failing of so many of the current crop of wing-backs.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 5:16 PM
 
Not sure how you can make Rico a miss when he hasn't played or even been in the squad yet?
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 10th September 2018, 5:54 PM
 
I think guys you're maybe forgetting Rico played 90 minutes against Exeter. Distribution fair, and has a bit more presence than Fabri..but then he's a good bit taller. I think all of us who were there would say Exeter huffed and puffed a bit but were blunt up front and consequently Roca was never really tested. Jury still out!
posted by phild - Monday 10th September 2018, 11:03 PM
 
Rico is on loan from Sevilla and I think Joe Bryan has been pretty good really
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Tuesday 11th September 2018, 2:24 AM
 
All the players coming in are being asked to adapt to a very unique way of playing, i can only think of Man City and maybe Liverpool who attempt to play the way our manager sets up our team. Be patient every single one of these players will improve this season. I think one player in our squad demonstrates this, if you cast your mind back about two seasons Tim Ream couldnt pass a ball 5 yards, i think if we are all honest nobody could see the vast improvement in his game, players like Chambers, le Marchand and Bryan in particular will have to adapt the same way. Judge the players at Xmas.
posted by Adam (Guest) - Tuesday 11th September 2018, 9:04 AM
 
 
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I know.
posted by Nigel (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 12:42 PM
 
 
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Yes, they are Champions and they seem more convincing that Chelsea ever were Mourino or Conte. We've drawn the same amount of matches and they are vulnerable when attacked at speed. Same goes for Watford, they seem to be very robust but their style is more intimidation than football prowess. I cannot see them being in the top four at the end of the season. Watford get gittery if they are not in the lead by half time. To me a return of 4 points over both matches would be good, but 2 points essential for our league standing. Mitrovic to score in both games and maybe Sessegon too?
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I reckon our forwards will cause problems for Man City and Watford but there's a lot of fast, talented players to be contained. I hope SJ 'extra' defensive training will bear fruit but I remember George Graham drilling Tony Adams and co at Arsenal - he did a great job. Unfortunately SJ does not regard a 'Big Boot' into the 'stands as an acceptable option. I'm not as optimistic and ROC but stranger things happen.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 5:31 PM
 
Heart says we might get a point head says we'll lose 6 - 2 :0(.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Monday 10th September 2018, 5:58 PM
 
What is the worry that if we lose ,if!!!!and w/ham win even though they have lost 4 on the trot they will be one point behind us, not a problem at this stage but 3 games down the line if we don't start playng defensive as if we mean it we got problems.
posted by the real arch bishop (Guest) - Tuesday 11th September 2018, 3:18 PM
 
 
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Having had a summer without rain, apart from a short thunderstorm yesterday, FFC minus the players involved in Internationals Played against ATK , an Indian premier league team, managed by Steve Coppell. It was really a game of two halves. Heavy rain and wind for the first half, and sunny and warm for the second. A report of the game is on the FFC website, but for me the highlights were the return of Floyd Ayite after injury, who played about two thirds of the game, and played well. Mat O'Reilly looked very good in central midfield, and Schuurle's goal was a beauty. It was a good workout, against a decent opposition, although Fulham had the most chances and the India Goalkeeper was the busiest, and made some great saves. It was a pleasure to see so many Fulham shirts in the crowd, from many different seasons. Even one with the old Hammersmith and Fulham badge. Well worth the 5 euro entry, even though we all got soaked, but dried out by the end.
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I was there also enjoyed every minute even the wind and rain and meeting some off the players and both manager outside after the match a terrific bonus I had my shirt signed by some players and both managers wonderful there was even some spanish fulham supporters there had a great time.Billy
posted by billybee (Guest) - Saturday 08th September 2018, 5:39 PM
 
I live over here and wnt as havent seem much footie for a while (Villa fan) Can we have O'Reilley on loan please..absolute class..cant believe he's 17..said elswwhere he plays like a 25 year old..v impressive.. Schurles goal classy..young kid who came on was also decent..should have won by 3 or 4 more but keeper made some decent saves and some misses..
posted by rich (Guest) - Saturday 08th September 2018, 7:05 PM
 
A nice touch by Schuurle at the end, coming over and giving his shirt to a young Fulham fan. The young kid who came on was Harvey (the one with all the hair) He played right wing, and was too quick for the opposition, and but for a fantastic save would have scored.
posted by Bert (Guest) - Saturday 08th September 2018, 7:48 PM
 
 
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I just listened to the podcast with Khan. It made be feel quite emotional. I really enjoyed it COYW
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https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/09/07/men-in-blazers-podcast-speaking-with-fulham-jaguars-owner-shad-khan/ Here is the link for those interested.
posted by Jim (Guest) - Friday 07th September 2018, 7:53 PM
 
I believe in the Khans. They will take us to the next level of competing in this league, and not just also rans
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Friday 07th September 2018, 9:44 PM
 
Really interesting piece. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 07th September 2018, 11:37 PM
 
It took some finding, but when I did , it was well worth listening to
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I read today that Quuens Park Rangers will no longer accept circumcised males in the QPR fan club. A spokes man said this move was neither sexist nor aimed at any one particular race. In his personal opinion there were no drawbacks to being circumcised and anyway it was no skin off his nose, but the new rule recognised the reality that you have to be a complete prick to support QPR.
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Love it!
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Friday 07th September 2018, 9:22 PM
 
With a name like yours I'm not suprised !
posted by Pete (Guest) - Friday 07th September 2018, 10:29 PM
 
Thanks Pete. I quite like your comment as well!
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 5:37 PM
 
 
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Hello everyone. This is a plea to all Fulham fans to stop shouting at the matches. I have sensitive ears and all the shouting gives me a headache. I've been advised by the club that it's part of the football experience but why should someone who pays good money to watch footballers play football (not listen to a bunch of adults shouting) have to endure a headache because others won't be considerate of my health problems?
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Oh you poor thing. What a terrible affliction. Have you considered though that it might not be a case of overly sensitive ears but perhaps a reverberation in the empty space between?
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 07th September 2018, 3:38 PM
 
Well I thought I might get someone to help me on this because I saw someone complaining about painful knees, so he can't get up every time people get excited during the match, so he has trouble seeing.
posted by Brian Smith (Guest) - Friday 07th September 2018, 4:07 PM
 
Wear ear plugs , sorted !
posted by Ben Twilly (Guest) - Friday 07th September 2018, 4:45 PM
 
Invest in some noise cancelling head phones. Sounds like they will massively improve your life beyond football too
posted by Obvs (Guest) - Friday 07th September 2018, 5:54 PM
 
Great idea. Done properly you can Gentleman Jim's commentary piped in as well (he does occaisionally shout a bit though).
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 07th September 2018, 6:29 PM
 
You could watch the game from the Riverside Stand, the only noise there is moaning.
posted by BAZ (Guest) - Friday 07th September 2018, 10:02 PM
 
Those telescopes they used in the trenches on world war 1 where you look in the bottom glass and can see whats happening through the top glass, would be ideal for the fellow with bad knees. He could stay sitting, and see whats happening when every body else stands up
posted by Bert (Guest) - Saturday 08th September 2018, 7:59 PM
 
Alternatively , you could go along to smallbrentford. It's so quiet there it's hard to tell whether there's a game on or not. Usually if there's someone outside selling lucky heather means they're at home.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Saturday 08th September 2018, 10:45 PM
 
Go down the bridge and don’t sit near the visitors !,, the locals are pretty quiet !,
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 10th September 2018, 8:26 AM
 

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