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Sunday 23rd September 2018, 6:27 PM

Anyone at the game yesterday can see we really miss Reams calmness, quality, leadership and ability to make most passes to teammates. The same can be said for Cairney we miss creativity, decisive balls and linking play with Micho. The major problem is Mawson and Chambers who are appalling in all games so far and simply not good enough.No pace , not this level. in tackles, give the ball away and testerday was absolutely disastrous first half . For me Odoi much better as pace, can make passes , brings the ball out and good in the air too.Yes he makes mistakes but all will at thislevel. Sessingnon is not a full back and you saw yesterday when he played not happy there and looked out of touch. When he pressed forward there were huge gaps on the flank as d not come back and Watford missed a number of chances.Bryan injured? Much better in that position and then Sessegnon can link from him and be more creative. Overall we look to struggle in the premiership withot key players red and newcomers Seri etc have yet to settle and also giving careless balls a way. We will improve hopefully but I think we all agree Mawson and Chambers definately not good enough and please give Chambers back from loan. Keep positive and I’m sure we will recover and make games good to watch.
Just like last season it looks like SJ is playing Sess as a defender out of necessity.Makes you wonder who is responsible for signing Mawson and Chambers . Doubt it was Slavisa.
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 7:11 PM
Mawson and Chambers bad Saturday agree about Odoi and Ream still feel Mawson will come good
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 7:48 PM
Let’s give Mawson a break! He only played 3 games after 5 months out. He signed a five year contract so let’s give him a few more games before throwing him off board! Chambers - we knew what we were getting anyway! He’s a old fashion defender - better suited for Man U or Burnley. He’s not much of an upgrade from Kalas.
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 7:48 PM
Remember how appalling Ream was in his first season
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Sunday 23rd September 2018, 6:20 PM

Like a lot of you no doubt, I have just been watching Arsenal against Everton, which strangely enough, are our next two opponents, Everton being away, and Arsenal coming to the Cottage. I am not sure which one we will have more chance against in picking up a point or even three. Personally I have a feeling that we will have a hard time at Goodison Park,a ground that we never(Cup match apart) ever do well at, and we have never won there in the league. We must have a better chance against Arsenal at home as they, on today's showing, are certainly no better than Watford.
AC' i hope i am not sticking my neck out too far? I fancy us to pick up our first away 3 points at Everton next. I really think our boys will be picking up rollickings left right and centre back on the training ground this week, especially our defenders. Honestly, it is too bad to be true! Surely the likes of Mawson are better than what they have shown so far??? I remember Ream being terrible before he got better and i refuse to give up on our guys just yet. I was one of those who would have gone with Odoi/Targett and most of those last season. Funny how we are waiting on Reamy who along with Odoi that some didn't think good enough. No Targett and we have these new boys who haven't performed to a reasonable level yet. Let us see what a few sessions on the training ground does for their confidence. Everton away is the perfect game for everyone to get their act together. We need a solid 90 minute performance full of concentration. We are just too bad to be true right now. That was a decent point against Watford though. Onwards to next week...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 7:27 PM
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Sunday 23rd September 2018, 12:51 PM

Not just the newspaper report, if you’d only watched MOTD you think we did not deserve the point at all! Let’s get some facts straight! It was a game of two halves - Watford won the first by miles and we won’t the second by miles. Watford battered us in the first half and could have scored 3 or 4! We did the same to them the second half! We had more shots (albeit less on target), more possessions, more tackles won (albeit one very nasty one), better passing, as many corners and only less shots on target. When the score was 1-1 we had at least 2 chances to miss the game. Our manager was clever to change the formation for the second half - no mention of that! So why In MOTD review didn’t show any of our 2nd half chances. Why people think if we’d won it would be a smash and grab! Why everyone think Watford were unlucky! At the end of the day, we had chances to win the game in the last 10mins! We didn’t play well in the first half (awful) but we more than deserve our share of the points if not more!
Considering that our ex Captain Danny Murphy was part of the MOTD team last night, I thought that our coverage was quite appalling. While they summed up Watford's play at the end of the match, we did not get a mention, as to how they thought we might do throughout the season. Danny, you should have stepped in and said your bit. I am, for the first time, ashamed of you Danny for not standing up for us in this programme.
posted by A C (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 1:07 PM
I fully agree John the summing up was a disgrace. Yes we should have been buried by half time but in the top league if you don’t kill the game off the opposition will invariably make you pay. All those overpaid clowns could comment on as far as Fulham were concerned was the obvious inadequacies of our defence. Yes we have problems and hopefully we are working on them. Not a word about picking ourselves off the canvas showing great spirit and resilience, reshuffling the formation to telling effect and also playing some bloody good football. We certainly rode our luck but I do feel that had the roles been reversed the idiots in the studio would be smugly agreeing that the naive new boys failed to drive home the advantage when it mattered whilst wily campaigners Watford shrewdly changed things around to gain a well earnrd point. Obviously still sulking at the absence of the wonderful Aston Villa.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 1:08 PM
If we offered Watford a chance to play the game again, do you think they’d want to? I don’t think so! would we? Absolutely! So don’t think we’re robbed of the points! We are just as good, if not better, than them!
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 2:48 PM
Agree John and Eddie with MOTD one sided analysis. Atrocious first 45. Fosu- Mensah would have been sent off by a majority of Premier League refs. We rode our good fortune, made adjustments, came out and pinned Watford back in their half much of the second 45. Great substitutions at halftime and the lads came through with a well deserved point. Disagree that Watford wouldn't want to replay that one. I think we're happier with our point than they are. Do think by April, we will be a better side than them, even if we're behind them in the table after our annual early season hole digging.
posted by Californian (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 4:44 PM
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Sunday 23rd September 2018, 9:52 AM

Getting caught early trying to play pretty football to early when players still cold.there nothing wrong with playing nice football but must earn the right by being solid at start getting stuck in and clearing your lines till games have settled
I don’t think we were caught trying to play pretty football. Bad error and then poor defending led to the goal. We need a captain at the back to organise the team. No one seemed to be talking and Sess was constantly out of position and so that caused the rest of the defence a huge issue. Sess can’t play left back at this level. We should have equalised in first half as Vitteo should have taken that chance esp when ball rebounded to him and goal was open albeit tight angle. Second half after 75 mins we dominated and nearly won. Can’t be unhappy with the point. First year will be super tough. We just need a better organised defence who play simple balls and don’t gift possession. If no simple short pass is on clear the bloody thing.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 10:08 AM
Not unhappy with point just we could do even better not giving early goals away
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 10:16 AM
Part of the reason why Sess is constantly out of position is neither schrulle or Vietto come back enough when we are defending. It opens up a massive gap. Can you remember many passes between Sess and schrulle?? No! No remember the passes between Targett and sess! Yes, plenty! The problem Partly Sess, partly schrulle and partly the way we are set up! We need to work on that quickly!
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 10:22 AM
Maybe you another reason sess is caught out of position is because he’s not a left back needs to be upfield more !!!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 10:30 AM
Not caught out by pretty defending more like suicidal defending might be old fashioned but think we should clear our lines occasionally rather than faff around the box more so in this league !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 10:33 AM
Rather have Sessegnon more forward but fought he guts it out better than rest of back four till Odoi came on who’s proved himself a good defender and this rubbish about him not being big enough he wins more in air than most and is gutsy and quick
posted by Badger (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 10:43 AM
Spot on Badger
posted by Midds - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 11:10 AM
The early part of last season Sess was played in that position and with no joy also. Lets not do what does not work.
posted by Nick (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 11:44 AM
Very simple,Watford played 5 won 4 drawn 1 Extremely physical and very robust well organised team. Fulham still getting there best available players to play together Thought Denis Odou was our best player. Thought we deserved a very well earned point!
posted by Mike (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 12:28 PM
Most sides early on will be more organized than us until we get our sea legs in the prem. As for Schuurle and Vietto not tracking back. They're up top in a 4-3-3 system. Responsibility yesterday would have fallen on Johansen Macca and Seri to fill the gaps when the wing backs make runs, which in the first half they didn't. Sess's link the first was Stef Jo and as John accurately graded, Stef was nowhere to be found. Second half with Sess and Ayite on the left,things improved dramatically. Then once Anguissa came on, we started playing some nice football. Slavisa will get it all sorted, hopefully sooner than later.
posted by Californian (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 5:20 PM
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Sunday 23rd September 2018, 9:32 AM

i wonder with our centre backs combo been our biggest problem area and the need for ball playing centre backs if it is worth try Cyrus Christie out there?
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Sunday 23rd September 2018, 1:32 AM

Some of pre-season posts were extremely optimistic of our team finishing in the top half and now the usual moaners have returned after just a hand full of games. In my humble opinion our main aim is to ensure we do not get relegated by gradually acclimatising to the difference between Premiership and Championship football. I am positive that our manager if fully aware of the dangers and will eventually find the right defensive formation especially when Ream and Cairney return and gain complete fitness. We will improve as the season progresses and I consider we will finish around 15th and avoid the dreaded relegation fight. Patience please and, in the meantime, give the team your full support, win lose or draw.
I would agree that there’s nothing more depressing than reading negative posts, but to be honest, I thought that the crowd did well yesterday in supporting the team. Everyone was concerned after an ineffectual first half display, but the second half and the final result should made everyone believe we are not relegation fodder, and we can give anyone a game.
posted by peterjeremy - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 6:23 AM
Yes, expectations may have been too high, but boy, have we come down to earth. Yesterday was very poor, and comments on this site would be totally different if the actual result reflected the run of play. Our defence was awful, and, once again, Joka continues to play Sessegnon out of position.Yes, we will improve, but only when TC and Ream are back at full fitness. Jokanovic has a hell of a lot to learn. I do believe we will survive, but it won’t be easy
posted by Rm (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 6:27 AM
I think that sometimes we feel disappointed when we don’t get maximum points from a team that are not thought of as one of the elite in this league. Watford are fourth and are a strong, organised outfit that are capable of hurting many teams. If we had taken a point against any of last years big four we would have been delighted. We are slow starters but we will gain momentum over the next couple of weeks I’m sure.
posted by Tony c (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 7:49 AM
Joka learned pretty fast yesterday and learned something about one of two of his defenders sure he will sort it out on another note we contributed a lot to the bad first half but surprisingly we had more shots on and off target and more possession just there 39% was more productive particularly in th first half read some reports watched match of the day thought there reporting not 100% accurate Holt in the mail thought they should have had a pen unlike bbc who threw it out rightly no one speaks of pen we should have got apparently sky said it was not saying we played well but the better side in the last 30 minutes certainly had enough chances to win and we are still out of relegation zone and we can cwertainly play better and it seems we are after another player !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 10:48 AM
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 9:56 PM

tim Ream was back training with the lads this week. Hopefully he should soon be available. What's happened to Joe Bryan? the current defence is poor. Odoi and Ream should be our central defenders, and Ryan playing further forward.
Bert' i didn't watch the game but managed to snatch some 2nd half commentary on FTV. Big Jim was screaming out for Kamara to come on which was funny! I want to see Reamy back in the battle ASAP, and when he comes back we might need to give him time to bed in if that makes sense? I just can't see Tim Ream being up to the speed of the prem just yet. Every other week so far, defenders are taking it in turns to make mistakes. This prem is a different level and unforgiving, especially if you short pass. I would persevere with merchant and not write off Mawson just yet. Even Chambers they all know what is at stake now and i really feel they will go back to basics and come back stronger. We have shown that we can come out 2nd half and hurt teams on the offensive, so how good can we be if we sort our defence out? Reamy wasn't the best not so long ago, and he came back to prove it to Slavisa who didn't rate him. Guys like Mawson are big characters, and i think he has the heart and will to get his act together. If Mawson can get his MoJo back to his best? He can be captain. I love his character and he is a local boy at heart. Mawson will come good and so will our defence. Then we will see a proper Fulham. I am so happy with that draw against Watford and we could have won it in the end. We should be happy...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 12:13 AM
Make you right there owen!,,
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Bettinelli - 7 (some good saves to keep score down)
Fosu-Mensah - 6.5 (good strength but exposed at the back in first half)
Mawson - 5 (calamity in 1st half)
Chambers, - 5.5 (never looked comfortable was accident waiting to happen)
Ryan Sessegnon - 6.5 (good 2nd half display)
Johansen - 5.5 (a bit invisible and cannot get ball)
McDonald - 6.5 (let too many balls past him into defence)
Seri - 7 (good performance)
Vietto - 7 (hold ball well and dribble but some bad final ball decision)
Mitrovic - 8 (no service in 1st half. defended a few corners and could have scored 3)
Schürrle - 6.5 (worked hard but no end product)

Odoi - 7.5 (solid as a rock!)
Zambo Anguissa - 7.5 (made himself big and protected the defence)
Ayité - 7 (looked sharp but no final ball)

Man of the match - Mitro with Odoi closely behind!
Odoi by a mile for me. Agree with the majority of your assessments particularly Seri, Vietto, Odoi, Anguissa, Ayite and Betts. Thought Fosu was better than a 6.5 and 6.5 too much for Sess, thought this was his worse game. Mitro 7/7.5 for me.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 7:27 PM
Funny how opinions can differ. I prefer Sess further forward, but I thought he played really well today at LB. Vietto although a bit inconsistent played well. Mitro & Odoi were top class!
posted by Chris (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 9:52 PM
Haha, it wouldn’t be right to have 100% agreement, but we’re not too far apart. When you get to the age of some of us it might just be an eyesight thing. What you see depends on where you’re sitting:)
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 8:29 AM
Pretty spot on grades. Would give Odoi and Mitro 8.5. They were our best and both deserve MOTM honors. Would lower Macca to a 5.5. Seems to be struggling with the pace in this division. Only worry long term is Sess at left back. Need to get Bryan or Le Marchand up to speed quick, so Sess can play his best position higher up. Hopefully they play well Tuesday night so Slavisa will develop some confidence in them and play them weekends, particularly Bryan, who seems to have already found a place in Joka's doghouse.
posted by Californian (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 4:59 PM
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Must say that Owen has been banging on about Odoi for weeks and he has proved to be absolutely correct, game changed when he came on. Would not surprise me if another of Owens favourites will do the same (Kamara). Still not sure about Le Marchand though . Well done mate.
I quite agree , that Odoi, made a huge difference, and he was part of our successful squad last season, and he should remain in the side for now at least. Is it time for us to be looking over our shoulders, as we are only just clear of the bottom three, but Burnley are now back on course, and Newcastle are beginning to pick up points, or is still early days. We really need Brighton to be dropping more points as well. I think our saviours might be Cardiff, Huddersfield and Southampton.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 5:55 PM
Cheers Tony! I think that Odoi has earned his stripes more than ever now but what is his best position? I think the answer is, wherever he is needed if that makes sense. I also think that there is still time to sort ourselves out at the back. Mawson is interesting because he is very vocal and he has past form to improve on. Slavisa will pick and mix with the back 4 until we get it right and we will. I am well happy with a draw against Watford, and we proved that we can be dangerous going forward. I didn't see the game but i heard the usual story about Sess in that left back position first half? I wished we had stumped up for Targett but it wasn't to be. We have to work with what we have now, and somehow we will get it right at the back. Everybody knows the score now, and the likes of Mawson will have food for thoughts. Back to basics at Motspur Park. We will find a defensive unit, we will get it right. Give it time guys! Awesome upfront with big Mitro. I am well happy, come on Fulham!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 1:20 AM
Ironic really we are hoping for last seasons lads who are still here to get fit and be in contention for places And in some cases will play !, look we have brought in some good players and when all our squad is up to scratch there’s a half decent team there was not overly impresseed with Watford thought defensivley they were average and based there game on power
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 10:58 AM
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Oh dear! Seems quiet on thus board from our Welsh friend!
Probably hasn't stopped sobbing yet
posted by Harry (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 6:42 PM
Taff your boys took one hell of a beating !!! Get used to it ( still it won’t last you’ll be back where you belong soon !!!
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 4:10 PM

First half collectively poor , no cohesion at all , total strangers . Second half big improvement , dominated well and could have got late winner . Lets take the positives , well earned point against a organised team , and first game we have only conceded one goal . We will get better . But if we sign players two days before the start of the season , rather than in early July , this is going to happen . By mid October expecting us to be so much better .
I agree. Well done Slav. Made brave and successful changes at half time. Told the team they are talented and to go out and show it. Told them to attack more, and backed it up by putting Ayite on for Mac. Mawson had to come off, having a poor game and already on a card. So in the second half we attacked more, took it to them and could have won. A draw is fine because the aim this year is to get the best team sorted, and stay up, ready to push on next year, so relax..we’re on course. I’d much rather be us than at least half a dozen other teams in the division that’s for sure.
posted by phild - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 5:35 PM
Definatley a game of two half’s first half poor lucky to be only one down half time subs made the world of difference could have won. When we get up to speed and manager gets his formation right ( mind you should have had penalty ) and a man sent of think we might have got lucky there
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 8:49 PM
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 3:07 PM

Watched Andy Townsend and Gary Neville analysis for Watfords goal and our central defenders were dragged way out of position on the right.
I was so looking forward to Mawson getting into our side, as I thought that he was an experienced Premier League player, despite playing in a relegated team. Oh how so disappointing, he has been, as to my mind after today's terrible performance, he is a very long way from a first team player, and he will have to be dropped. Pronto.
I am not too disappointed with today's result, as Watford look a pretty decent side, despite being quite a rough house lot. What a pity that Mitro's header hit the bar, but I suppose to be honest, a draw was a pretty fair result, and we will play a lot worse and win.

By the way I don't suppose that we will be hearing from Welsh Wizard, after today's result, and they were at HOME. Ha ha
posted by A C (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 4:36 PM
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So SJ did make changes and we were much quicker second half. Might have scored again which would have been unfair to Watford who outplayed us first half.
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 2:27 PM
Easy to come on here and be vile after we nick a point
posted by Tony c (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 2:40 PM
Back 4 utter shambles again,!Sess out of position, why?,cant keep saying wait till ream returns, It seem its about positions ,bryan and sess on left, but the middle, just pin your lucky ticket on the donkey .Let sess attack its what he does best ,viello, why ???chambers 3 year contract at arsn then we get him, again why ?just panic?.Why are we still so lightweight apart from mitro ?. Betts again did ok .
posted by Albert rn (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 3:13 PM
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:32 PM

Ayite and Odoi for Mac and Mawson.
somebody give slavisa a compass please
posted by T.NO (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:33 PM
Nothing will change until TC and Ream are fit and well
posted by Rm (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:42 PM
What we need to do is get rid of cheers. Cut his loan short arsenal take him back. Please. Thank you
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:54 PM
It was meant to say get rid of CHAMBERS
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:55 PM
One shot on target!
posted by Rm (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 2:01 PM
Got to love Mitro. Most goals since January of anyone in English football
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 2:09 PM
Safe to say MST they made all the difference lol
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 2:29 PM
Yes they did - glad I got the wrong ;0))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 5:08 PM
Seemed to do the trick !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 8:51 PM
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:30 PM

Seri will be putting in his Notice for xmas. The man will get fed up. Where the hell did fosu -messiah come from..can somebody tell him its a football not a golf ball. 100 million..hahaha
Fosu Mensah is a Man U player.
posted by Bert (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 9:45 PM
Not only is he a Man.U player he is with us all season and in my opinion had a very good game yesterday.
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:28 PM

What an earth is Chambers doing, he is continually putting the back four under pressure, why is he even on the pitch, we must have a better defender. Unless we change things for the second half I fear the worst, Ses is not a defender, why is he being played at left back? Get a proper left back on and push Ses up where he is more effective. L
Agreed. Send Chambers back ASAP. Don't play him again. He is the same every game. Non league football is all his good for.
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:59 PM
83rd min another Chambers mistake nearly cost us the game, he’s useless
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:23 PM

Kamara, Anguissa and Le Marchand for Sessegnon, Johansen and Tony Bell (aka Vietto ). This is not good and it is clear half our team are not good enough for this level. Wish I’d stayed at home and watched it on TV. This is Watford not Barcelona and our defence is non existent :0(((.
I can't see that 2 or 3 changes will make a difference. We are not getting the ball in midfield, too many passes splitting our defence! I would change Johansen for Le Marchand. Praying for a miracle next 45 minutes. Roll on our meeting with Cardiff - we might get a point.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:30 PM
Willie2b in hindsight those 3 changes did change the game. Plus the change in formation. Fair result. We could of nicked it
posted by Paul24FFC (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 2:28 PM
Thought we played ok second half against a team everybody’s falling over thought they was there to be beaten. Second half there defence was not up to much they played well first half with the help of our defence. And the usual early goal really hard to get going after a really bad start !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 8:58 PM
MST' Gentleman Jim is a massive Kamara fan (Honestly) Jim was screaming fir Slavisa to bring him on in the 2nd half. Gentleman Jim loves Kamara more than me!!! I think you should love him tooxxx
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 5:03 PM
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:22 PM

A creaking defence - again. Sorry SJ but you can't tap-tap the ball out of your own penalty area. And overall against a well organized team your pass-pass method is just not good enough. Our 5th game and we are being totally dominated by Watford, a team we have to beat to have any chance of staying in EPL. 0-1 but should be 2 or 3 down. SJ you have to change, find an answer or go!
We won’t stay in the league on the result of today’s game we will if we stay out of bottom three which we are tonight !!
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 9:01 PM
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Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:22 PM

Are we sure we have got Alfie Mawson? It looks like we have Rob Beckett.. absolute disgrace at the back. Chambers panicking. Both CBs look terrified of Deeney. Forum Mensah awful, Sess out of position and feel sorry for him.
Can't argue with that. Very concerned for FFC.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 1:26 PM
I thought Fosu Mensah was excellent today.
posted by Ken.H (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 5:10 PM
I agree Ken but then again so we’re most everyone. Thought Vietto was excellent except for his final touch at times. I think that’s more assists than anyone. Seri excellent but can give the ball away too often. Makes up for it though. Mawson terrible, Mac not much better. Chambers improved greatly second half, not difficult. Sessingnon terrible, constantly out of position, seems to lack confidence, play him where he’s best. Odoi a game changer, my MOTM. Fossu Mensah much improved second half. Mitro hung in there, got his goal curtesy of Vietto’s hard work. Mitro really likes to be liked, his head was on his knees first half, different play after he’d scored. Betts as always top draw. After a truly terrible first half, think they showed guts and deserved the point. Good SJ substitutions, Mind would have been more impressive if he’d started with that line up. Still beyond me why Bryan isn’t starting. Could have been much worse.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 7:19 PM
My first sentence did not read right...ignore:)
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 7:31 PM
Mortlake I agree with most of what you say in your post and do rally appreciate that I am out of kilter on Sess who I thought had a reasonable to good game, and although I feel Bryan has a future with us, at this point in time because of his quality which the manager knows he is the best option at left back and further forward.
posted by Ken.H (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 11:19 AM
Mawson's worst mistake was to head the ball back into the danger area when a Watford player was running on towards goal? They should have scored another one through that mistake. That was awful and when he is made to look back at that one, he will be greatly embarrassed! Mawson comes with a much higher pedigree than that, and judging from his character, he will improve. I 100% forgive him and will give him the benefit of the doubt folks, he will improve. Slavisa stated in his after match report that if he could have made 4 substitutions he would have done so. That tells us a lot folks! More than half the team were terrible, especially in the first half. Mawson was awesome for Swansea and i am willing to stake my reputation on here (FLAKEY)> that Alfie Mawson will become one of our most important and influential players. I can see us improving in the defense area sooner or later. We have Everton this coming week at Goodison, and it would be massive if we come away from there with 3 points and if we keep a clean sheet? Mawson and co will be heroes. We need a clean sheet, we will get one soon enough...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 23rd September 2018, 4:57 PM
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Well there's no easy games in the Premiership is there and we have not go a team of internationals like we had when last we were promoted. Must make the most of home advantage and not be intimidated by Watford's power play. Fulham 2 - Watford 0 would be a good idea, as we have to start keeping clean sheets or we are all doomed. Come on Fulham.
Prepared to eat my hat if we keep a clean sheet. Can’t make it today, as a family commitment but still just as nervous
posted by Rm (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 12:35 PM
My hat is safe, but my beloved club isn’t.
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...Sessegnon playing left wing back again. Surely we have three better players who can play there at least??!!
Agree. Left back who should be not even on the bench. In general cant understand the line up but then again not my job. Hope im wrong but have quite a few atletico madrid mates delighted Vietto left and assure what weve seen from him is beyond anything produced for them. Hope kamara back soon
posted by T.NO (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 12:22 PM
Just don’t get it. Joka surely sees something that thousands of us don’t ? In truth, I’d rather sell him that see him played so often, out of position. He is totally wasted at Fulham. Sorry, but this drives me nuts
posted by Rm (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 12:24 PM
Joka is totally out of his depth at this level. Beginning to see why Watford ditched him.
posted by Rm (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 12:41 PM
Ryan Sessegnon is playing left back today because he is the best player in that position at the moment, and by the way who is this tosser Rm.
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Fulham 2 Watford 1!!! I have a good feeling about this game! Seri will desperate to put right what went wrong for him in the last game.
Wish I did! Without TC and Ream I fear we will be more than lucky with a draw
posted by Rm (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 9:41 AM
Seri should be encouraged to shoot more. The goal of the season against Burnley would have lightened up a World Cup. Seri needs to take a few hints from Schuurle and just pop a few more shots from long range today.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 9:44 AM
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Sorry, don't see the point. Daft Americans chanting for an amateur football team.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:55 PM
I heard that the Palace Ultras were on a boycott over some issue with seating. Didn't realise they have all emigrated though!
posted by Chris of Jokes - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:59 PM
For CoJ: What do you call a wandering nun? A roamin' Catholic.
posted by marbella white (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 9:41 AM
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What's gone wrong with our Prime-Ministers?

As much as some people didn't like Thatcher, there's some respect for what she has done and the leadership she brought to the country. John Major was a well respected figure and left the job with pride you'd expect from the UK leader. Most of their predecessors left their jobs with creditability.

What happened since??

Blair did a good job building the economy and sorting out Ireland but completely ruined his legacy trying to be a good buddy with Bush and went and invaded Iraq, now we know probably illegal. He will never get a knighthood!

Brown completely destroyed the economy and bankrupted the country, probably started well before when he was the chancellor. He will never get a knighthood!

Cameron decided to give the country a suicide vote without a proper fight. He will never get a knighthood!

May's career is likely to finish for falling asleep on the wheel of the Brexit negotiation in the last 2 years. Without a deal, she will be gone in disgrace for failing to achieve the only one job she had. She will not be made a Dame!

Predicting the future...

Corbyn will be lucky and probably get voted in. It doesn't matter what he does with Europe but with his far left view and his likely promotion of even more extreme left wing MPs, the country will wake up one day to realised OMG what have we done and get kicked out. He will never get a knighthood.

looking even further ahead...

Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg will get into power. it will be another OMG wake-up call!!

What ever happened to our prime Ministers!

I don't know why politics are coming on to this site, but I will just add, that if by any chance Corbyn ever became PM, and I have more chance of winning the lottery than that happening, then life would not be worth living in this country, and would become another Russian state.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 9:41 AM
Cameron did a runner when we voted to leave the EU, resulting in Mrs May taking over but being a firm remainder was always going to struggle to get the sort of deal that the Breiteers wanted. Must admit the thought of a commie like Corbyn moving into No 10 doesn't bear thinking about! Him and his Marxist colleagues will make " Attilla the Hun " look like a moderate!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 9:53 AM
This Country is too soft and everyone are becoming little snowflakes. Crime is out of control but there's no police on our streets. Take the crime from the streets and bring it to the Ivory towers, then we would have Zero tolerance.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 9:55 AM
Not to worry LTS, come Saturday this site will return to normal, with its letters praising the team after sorting out Watford!!!!!!!
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 10:00 AM
dan gleeballs ,,,spot on
posted by moreline (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 12:36 PM
Brexit is the story of four people in a plane. Mrs May is trying to land the plane however she's now realised she doesn't have enough fuel to land safely; she has the ERG Chaired by Reece Mogg who is trying to grab the controls of the plane from behind Mrs May and instead of implementing a safe landing is sending the plane into a nose dive - quickly. She's looking to her co-pilot for some assistance - the labour party - but they're too busy having a punch up with the passenger behind them - Jeremy Corbyn! Whatever's going to happen - it's not going to go well - oh well; could be worse! Up the Fulham!
posted by Odd bod! (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 12:48 PM
that's true....but I'd say a plane with May the pilot and 3 back seat passengers (Johnson, Mogg and Corbyn) stabbing at the back of May's seat, waiting to pounce! They don't care where the plane is going or what happens to the 65m passengers on the plane, as long as they get the pilot seat! Perfect scenario for a crash!
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 1:43 PM
Blimey. Its being so cheerful that keeps you all going.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 21st September 2018, 3:12 PM
@ John... couldn't agree more - little.... sorry... absolutely no consideration for any of the passengers at all. All that matters is who gets control! Your prediction of Mrs May - disappearing in disgrace, i sense will happen sooner than you may have thought with her very recent 'bold' plea to the EU, to essentially come up with some ideas for her as she's (after 2 years) essentially got nothing else to offer! Honestly; Felix McGath could have done a better job - JOKE! :-)
posted by Odd Bod! (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:05 PM
The problem is that Michel Barnier chartered the plane ;0).

I vote for another referendum now the leavers suddenly realise how stupid and futile their vote was ;0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:57 PM
Mod please delete. It has about much relevance to FFS as Blair has to a knighthood. PS I hope most or all of our MP's take the Ms May Flight & circle idlib long enough to do us all Favour. Cheers....
posted by Mac (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 5:14 PM
PSS Let Blair be cabin boy.
posted by Mac (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 5:21 PM
FFC not FFS fat fingered sorry. COYW...
posted by Mac (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 5:24 PM
DG and Moreline anyone who hasn’t been working down a coal mine since the age of 3 seems to be a snowflake in your eyes!! Lol!
posted by 5crawny - Friday 21st September 2018, 7:26 PM
I've disagreed with MST over Brexit since the electorate voted to leave, given another chance to vote would do exactly the same. Nothing to do with racism, just want to make our elected MPs try to do what they consider is best for our great country,' do not like to be told what we can or can't do by a bunch of unelected Brussels pen pushers.- End of rant
posted by Harry (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 7:37 PM
If we have a second ref then we need a third for the loser and then a fourth ect ect
posted by BAZ (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 8:20 PM
mst look at he voters in Sweden [the rape capital of europe]. They want out of the eu. that also goes for Germany Italy also is it Hungary they built a fence to stop people getting in . They have see the problems the rest of europe have. I voted to come out because i was losing my ENGLISH CULTURE.
posted by GEEZER (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 8:32 PM
MST, please stick to talking about Fulham, because with respect, you obviously haven't got a clue as to how people of this wonderful country think about the EU. If, and a very big if, there was another vote, the getting out vote would be a lot larger than the last referendum. People I know who voted remain last time, have changed their minds and they would now vote to come out, after the way that they have treated Mrs May.
posted by NORMAN (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 11:57 PM
Sorry John, you are sadly misinformed about Brown destroying the economy. In late 2009 the recovery had just started and the economy was in recovery til that gideon arsebourne and the wasteful tories switched gears Summer 2010 and tanked the economy and 2018 we are still suffering. The Labour Years 1997 to 2010 were the best years of my lifetime. The tories need to be lined the wall as Traitors and SHOT as they have sold the wealth of our Country to the Foreigners i.e. The Russians and the Arabs.... MAF and The Khans excluded as they have shown good intentions for Fulham. Tbh, things cannot get any worst under Corbyn compared to the mess the tories always leave our Country. JC4PM, and this is from a leaver. Now I have my doubts if there were referendum 2, I will choose to REMAIN or we will have our Country ruined by a Handful Feral Tory Cnuts, simple as that.
posted by Metchick's Marvel ! (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 3:27 AM
Marvel you obviously forgot what happened in 2007/2008 under Browns watch? The problem started before that when Brown as a chancellor relaxed many banking regulations, hence the best growth as you highlighted, which as we know now was just a bubble brown allowed it to happen!
posted by John (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 7:33 AM
Brown responsible for the global financial meltdown?! Are you watching CBeebies for your financial analysis? Brown’s plans for getting us out of that mess involved minimal levels of austerity and were adopted by the US and Germany- both are well beyond the struggling economic status we are currently experiencing. And as far as regulating the banking industry, Blair, Brown, Cameron and May have all been equally close to useless in that respect!
posted by 5crawny - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 8:54 AM
Can we get back to football
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Source: https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/latest-news-fulhams-riverside-stand-15176959

Fulham were granted planning permission for the redevelopment of the Riverside Stand in March - but so far little else has happened with the development.

Hammersmith & Fulham council granted full planning permission for a new 8,650 capacity stand, which would see the overall capacity of Craven Cottage increase to 29,600.

This was the second time the club had been granted planning permission for the redevelopment, with the original plans being granted in 2013, but after the takeover of the club by Shahid Khan the plans were redrawn to new designs.

At the time, the time frame for work to begin was in the summer of 2019, but since then it's gone quiet on that front as Fulham have begun life back in the Premier League.

Here's everything we know so far, what is currently happening and what happens next for the stand.

What has happened so far?

Fulham have been granted planning permission to redevelop the Riverside Stand.

This will increase the capacity of the stand to 8,650 and will see the current stand demolished and replaced by a new two-tier stand.

This new stand will include new new shops, a riverside walkway and nine apartments.

Planning permission was granted back in March with the club hopeful they would begin work in the summer of 2019.

What is happening at the moment?

At the moment, the club is still out to tender to potential sub-contractors.

This means Fulham are still inviting bids for the project from sub-contractors that will carry out the work on the Riverside Stand.

Chief Executive, Alistair Mackintosh, confirmed in the September meeting with the Fulham Supporters' Trust that the club wouldn't sign a contract with potential sub-contractors unless they were totally satisfied with the offer on the table - something they haven't been so far.

However, the view is still to move the project on as soon as possible with the plan not in danger of slipping a year.

What happens next?

Once Fulham are satisfied and have chosen a sub-contract, a time frame of works will be issued and the project can start moving forward - with the view to start work still the summer of 2019.

The club are also looking to set up Riverside Working group with season ticket holders in the current Riverside Stand to discuss the various relocation options available for fans that will have to be relocated during the works.

Once all these various things are done - work will eventually start on the project.

Is Shahid Khan's wish to buy Wembley Stadium having an effect on this project?

In short, no.

Mr Khan's plans to buy Wembley Stadium will have no impact on Fulham, Craven Cottage or the Riverside Stand redevelopment - they're two separate projects.

Tendering to sub-contractors? Who's running the show?
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 21st September 2018, 7:47 AM
So the new stand will increase capacity by 4300 is it worth the time @nd money for such a small increase if we are to a regular prem side we need a stadium to hold if poss 35000 I know for various reasons could be awkward but maybe there is a solution to me that involves Hammersmith and Putney end. Somehow personally don’t think the new stand will materialise any time soon
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 7:50 AM
Wonder if we could have got a few more seats in if they wren't putting flats in there as well. Personally, I think it's a brilliant idea. If we can enter the ground from the river side, that will keep more people off Stevenage Road and surrounding streets and keep the precious neighbours quiet. I'm surprised ,however that there's no mention of building a jetty to allow our corporate friends arrive by boat from some posh gaff in central London while having a few prawn sandwiches on the way.I'm not a great fan of corporate deals at football but we could charge top dollar for that and go some way to "monetise" our location - easily the best in the country. If I won the lottery, I'd almost go for it myself!
posted by Neighbourhood Watch (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 10:39 AM
Len, it's not just about capacity. It's the facilities that will generate more matchday and non-matchday revenue.
posted by John (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 2:52 PM
True but if this club has any long term ambition a 29000 capactiy stadium is a non starter
posted by Len (Guest) - Saturday 22nd September 2018, 9:18 PM
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Any news of when TC will be available for us? Not this Saturday, even so I am looking forward to meeting a Watford team brimming with confidence; but one never knows in football. Example, Spurs FFC 3-1, Watford Spurs 3-1, ManU Spurs 0-3, Watford ManU 0-2. Hope my scores are correct but anyhow you have the winners and take my point.
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Reluctantly selling due to a sudden relocation abroad 2X Fulham Seasonal Tickets. Riverside stand, Block X, 10 Rows up so very close to the action. As it is a bit of a short notice I'm also willing to sell the tickets for the Watford game individually. If interested in any of the two feel free to contact me at lucavld@gmail.com Thanks
Luca, please dont go! Brexit may never happen; we are not all racist lying bigots
posted by Rm (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 6:00 PM
Ha, thanks for the encouragement, nothing to do with Brexit that I don't see as a bad thing per se. More with the extortionate rent prices that makes impossible for non marketable artists to survive. Cool Britannia ended long ago, and real creativity with it. Still love the English thought.
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Welsh Wizard has set himself up for a fall reading his post. I just couldn't be bothered to start the avalanche! Back to the Championships for those guys rapidly! It looks like we will have Tim Ream back into the mix sooner rather than later. We will all need to go easy on our American Talisman though, he will need to get up to the speed of the prem. We can't expect a faultless 90 minutes from Tim in his first game back if against Watford and probably there will be a few mistakes, short passes here and there (they have all made mistakes). This Prem is tough, unforgiving, and exciting, and we all want to be in it. Our best game so far was against Burnley and if we bring it to Watford Sat lunchtime, we have a chance of beating them. Whatever defence turns out for Fulham will improve because the lads are working hard back on the training ground. We all need to take a chill-pill even me, and look out for a few more mistakes and short passes guys. Slavisa is a stickler for his system and nothing will change in that department, we wouldn't be Fulham otherwise. Win or lose? We are in the prem and we roll on to the next game. We have the makings of a great passing and attacking team, and if we really get it together one of these days? We will be awesome!!! COME ON YE FULHAM!!!
Posts getting longer and meaningless, same old same old. Still not feeling it?
posted by Rick (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 7:35 AM
Not feeling it Rick? I have no inclinations to start any arguments. There is a saying' The pen is mightier than the sword'! None of my post have been that bad that i have slain someone or attacked people. I have opinions and i am a Fulham fAN. Post is about welcoming Reamy back and yes he will make a few mistakes (That's different) No need to explain anymore or i will fall into the trap by trying to explain what i mean all over again. Funny isn't it when a few written words can cause this much upset. Cheer up Rick' it is worse for Cardiff supporters, they are going back down...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 8:09 AM
Rick, give it a rest!! If you don't like it don't make banal comments argue against the points he raises and if you can't be bothered to do that just don't bother at all mate - seriously!!

The abuse Owen is starting to receive for the most inoffensive of posts is bordering on bullying and I would imagine one of the reasons that regular posters are giving up on this board :0((((((.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 9:32 AM
Hear Hear...or Here Here.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 10:09 AM
It's hear, hear as in I hear you ;0)))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 10:31 AM
I agree MST don’t stop posting Owen to me you come over as a nice positive guy whose a good Fulham fan don’t them get you down your better than them. We may sometimes disagree but l respect your input
posted by DMK (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 11:44 AM
Keep posting Owen Your comments are a welcome and refreshing antidote to the complete nonsense and childish ramblings of those who wish only to stir the pot.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 12:15 PM
I think you have to excuse those people who probably can't string a sentence together and therefore being critical of those who can, and able write a piece of well-written post (not necessary agreeing with the contents or opinions). Twitter is truly ruin the art of English writing! Keep going Owen.
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 1:35 PM
"Twitter is truly ruin the art of English writing!" Indeed.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 20th September 2018, 2:24 PM
Thanks for your support guys. I admit i do get it wrong sometimes, but i don't ever mean any malice. I can repeat myself and write some over the top and some long in the tooth crap. I think that if one tries to explain stuff, i can get in a fuddle. It doesn't help if i try to be too clever, stuff like that. I am not entirely blameless in that i can bore the crap with some drivel sometimes. I will try and keep it reasonable and meaningful, and not too long. You will probably still get the odd bit of drivel when i go off on one, but in the main, i will try and be sensible thanks again guys!!!
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 2:30 PM
Arizonan, you do make me giggle to myself :0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 4:17 PM
It's true that John's post ref "Twitter is truly ruin the art of English writing" is somewhat ironic but why comment on any posters' writing? We have thousands of supporters from (mostly) West London and we should not expect to read good English in every post. Considering our cross section of population, I think the standard of writing English is pretty good and sometimes, where not, the comments are spot on.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 5:42 PM
Methinks there are a few " upstart crows" in our midst!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 5:46 PM
Lighten up Willie. I guess you don't do irony ...
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 20th September 2018, 6:55 PM
Willie please put my remark in context. I am not critical of anyone’s post of English. I won’t and probably never will. My remark is in defence of criticism made on Owen’s post. But in general I also believe what I said that the Modern day use of languages (twitter, emoji, text, etc) is slowly diminishing the use of proper old fashion English writing!
posted by John (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 7:11 PM
"Don't do irony"? that's rich coming from a Septic..
posted by Hints - Thursday 20th September 2018, 10:08 PM
Born in Princess Beatrice, Earls Court old boy; brought up on Ifield Road and Fulham Road. Not a Septic at all.
posted by The Arizonan - Thursday 20th September 2018, 11:02 PM
Just an ironic handle then... he he
posted by Hints - Friday 21st September 2018, 4:23 AM
Nice one.
posted by The Arizonan - Friday 21st September 2018, 7:43 AM
Give Owen a break he is one of our older posters !!! And give people like me a break who can’t write proper English !!!!! ( can’t write but I’m a good talker and believe it or not got GCSEs in grammer and literature. When a schoolboy many years ago but time and life had taken its toll !!! but I’m thick skinned and can take abuse all I care about is our team winning !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 8:00 AM
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You Fulham supporters make me laugh, saying that nobody will beat Manchester City at home this season, just because you lot got hammered. Did you notice tonight's result. ha ha. We will prove on Saturday that they can be beaten away from home as well, and you will lose to Watford and we will wave you goodbye as we pass you in the table. I will enjoy that suckers.
Welsh people don't have sense of humours so no , we don't make you laugh , kick and rush football , yawn.zzzzzzzz
posted by Colin (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 7:33 AM
I bet you'll be a bit more sheepish come 5 o'clock Saturday.
posted by Dan Gleebals (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 8:08 AM
Shame you got no welsh wizard on the pitch instead of cloggers
posted by DMK (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 8:17 AM
Cardiff team line up:

Goal keeper
defenders x 8
defensive midfielders x 2

Be interesting to see Cardiff possession stats and completed passes in the attacking half. Come to think of it will be interesting to see any stats from that game:0))))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 9:40 AM
Cardiff, my odds on favourites for the drop, and it is us that will be waving them goodbye.
posted by A C (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 9:44 AM
Yep on the 27th April :0)))
posted by MST (Moderator) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 10:26 AM
Sorry Colin but Welsh Wizard has actually proven that the Welsh do have a sense of humour, That one about Cardiff beating Manchester City was a real belter.
posted by Eddie (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 4:24 PM
Not being blessed with BT sport didn't see last nights game, but from all accounts for reasons unknown they didn't turn up, but with Pep back on the touchlline reckon somebody is in line for a good hiding.!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Thursday 20th September 2018, 5:37 PM
I'm sorry, there are plenty of funny Welsh people: Rob Brydon and Ruth Jenkins to name but two.. The remainder of the country is populated by fantastic singers, average rugby players and perverted farmers in wellies... truth be told a funny lot all round, not so much funny haha as funny peculiar really..
posted by Hints - Friday 21st September 2018, 5:01 AM
Think remarks regarding city are about domestic games we all know our big boys are not so big in Europe !! to our welsh friend at least we try and play football and I can’t wait to see the back of yuo lot
posted by Len (Guest) - Friday 21st September 2018, 8:05 AM
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Confused say still Watfrod tickets on line ticket office saying sold out
Why the confusion if ticket office says sold out you won’t be getting one !!,
posted by (Len (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 2:43 PM
I’ve got season ticket got email saying get a ticket for friend
posted by DMK (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:20 PM
I got that but when I tried to buy them I was told I didn't have sufficient privileges.Checking out with ticket office
posted by ST Holder (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:57 PM
The only tickets I could find were in blocks p2 & p4 in Putney end £50 for adults 35 for under 18s, Tickets for gooners game £60 adult , as MST would say o-(((
posted by Staines not so massive (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 5:24 PM
Doubt a Cardiff fan would write that city will hammer the t@ffies this w/e your bully boy tactics won’t work against this team 0-3 at best cmon citee
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Until the Man City game, despite only one win, I think all the players and definitely all the fans believe we can do much better and well this year. After the City game, I think most would agree with me the bubble has been burst and the players and fans recognised that. We are probably as good (yet) as we thought we were. Just with any fallout, the key question is how we respond to it? Has it damaged the confidence of the players (esp. Seri)? are the players disappointed and angry with themselves and how they will channel that energy? are the players still feeling sorry for themselves? have the team learned a thing or two that can help us in the next game?? the 60million dollar question is how we respond against Watford? I am really looking forward to the game but part of me is a bit nervous that we will be afraid to do what we are good at and part of me want to say our confidence is still high and we will want to show the world, we might not yet be good enough for City but we can give everyone a good game!! COYW. Let's put City aside and move onto bigger and better things!!
Sure it would be nice to get points against Watford, but for me the $60M question is actually where are come May 12. This season, build a team, stay up, then strengthen where necessary in the light of a whole season's Prem experience. Then push on for a higher, more solid position in 2019-20. Meanwhile, so long as we're doing better than Huddersfield, Cardiff and Burnley (who also lost at the weekend) and any other relegation candidates..happy days
posted by phild - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 2:26 PM
John, why are you harping on about losing to Man City, and the players losing their confidence ? So will every club that now gets beaten by City start losing their confidence then. Did you notice that Arsenal lost at HOME to City, and in fact have now won 3 of their 4 matches played since, People do spout a lot of nonsense sometimes. Each game is different, especially in this Division, and there will be easier matches facing us, and most other clubs, than City AWAY. Let's just concentrate on our next match against Watford, and see what we come up with when we play teams of our own strengths and weaknesses.
posted by A C (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 2:38 PM
Nothing’s changed as far As i a concerned did not expect much at city doubt many other teams will either !!! My bubbles still intact and will remain so up until Xmas time see how we stand second half of season when we will have a settled team go from there far to soon to worry about our position still think there are at least three teams inferior to us and we have some decent players at this club !!,
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 2:49 PM
Well sumed up Len
posted by DMK (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:31 PM
I would say that once we have settled in there will be at least 9 clubs worse than us, so just have a little faith and patients.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:33 PM
Don't understand all this self-flagellation over the City result. As we didn't expect anything from the game, most of us aren't in the least bit disappointed. We're in good company, as most Premiership teams that have suffered the same fate at the Etihad over the last 12 months, but they get over it and move on.
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 4:37 PM
City brought down to earth with a bump !!! Seems they took tonight’s opponents to lightly got what they deserved nothing !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 10:37 PM
We will more than compete in the passing stakes, but just a slight worry on the physical side of the game? I hope tomorrows game doesn't boil over and produces yellow cards. Slavisa's interview on FTV is interesting, and remember guys he used to manage Watford so the game is extra spicy...
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Am l dreaming or did l see Tim Ream training with first team today on Fulham TV hope so
....and Cairney :0)
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 4:25 PM
have you noticed he's the only player wearing a green bip. I think that means - FRAGILE - MUST BE HANDLED WITH CARE AND LOVE! OR YOU CAN LOOK BUT YOU CANNOT TOUCH!! so probably still quite a few weeks before we throw this baby out of his basket!
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Did notice that John
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I know some of us feel like we've been relegated after the Man City match...that's probably because our bubble has been finally burst - big time! However, while most of players looked uncomfortable, did you see Ayite? being his first game, I thought he looked really comfortable playing the ball and looked quite sharp! Still didn't see any final ball from him but definitely should give him some game time to compete with Vietto.
I agree Ayite looked sharp and to be fair he never has had a great end product but does terrorise defences when he is on form.

The issue for me is not attack but defence considering that we have conceded the most goals in the PL thus far.

I do however, believe that Jokanovic will find his best back four sooner rather than later and from what I've seen in the four games I've attended it is likely to be more by process of elimination rather than selection ;0)).
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So we are five games in, have played and lost to two of the top four from last season as well as lost our first game of the season when we fielded a Fulham side that had six debutants (three of which had been with the club for two days). Other than that we have beaten a team who finished seventh last season and drew away to a team who consolidated their place in the PL last season.

I don't remember these kinds of results being too different from when we spent 13 seasons in the Premier League yet the usual suspects are on this board claiming they know more about team selection and tactics than a guy who does it for a living with a reasonable degree of success coaching three different clubs.

It seems to me that there are people out there who just can't wait for the team to lose a game or even drop points so they can come onto forums like this and spout rhetoric about what we could have done differently if they had been in charge.

This squad has been together for less than two months for crying out loud and we have injuries to key players so for Pete's sake give them a chance to at least say hello to each other before you start creating merry hell. We are all Fulham fans and most of us want to see Fulham rub shoulders with the best so get behind your team and support what the club and the Head Coach is trying to do and stop looking for the slightest thing for which you can criticise them.

Hello!! We finished third in the second tier last season!! We are not going to pull up trees in the best league in the world overnight!! Ask Cardiff fans how their season is panning out so far!!

Rant over!! COYSW!!
MST, that was a really good article, and I am with you all of the way. Which way our season will go is in the balance at the moment, but I have a really good feeling about it, and once we are able to settle on a regular team we will gradually move up the table. Saturday could be a good time to start against Watford who, despite their rather flattering start, are quite beatable, especially at Craven Cottage.
posted by LTS (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:08 AM
MST I think that's unfair. I agree there are some negativity here that isn't helping but as fans, having a debate, thinking we are a better manager, a bit of a moan, getting excited as well as getting completely dejected and most importantly, sharing our emotions is what makes a football fan exciting!! Do you not agree? otherwise, we might as well sitting at home watching Casualty! Where we cross the line is when we become personal to any individual player, manager or the owner. Or we if we talking about going down already.
posted by John (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:19 AM
Or personal about individual contributors - and God knows there has been enough of that on the site.
posted by Keetch54 - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:47 AM
Yes I agree in general John but the people to whom I refer are those who never have a good word to say about the club and must be out there, catchers mit on hand, just waiting for something to go wrong so they can field it and write their negative comments time and time again and if anyone disagrees they get personal and abusive.
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 10:58 AM
Lots of your points are right but as fans of Fulham and Football there is always gonna be opion l like Jokanovic .but like a few others like Sessegnon further Forward and love our passing football but at times would like us to clear our lines more at back am sure not all agree that’s why we debate on here. It does get emotional at times. I will admite sometimes l thing we’ve been poor watched Match again on Fulham tv and was not the case
posted by DMK (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 10:59 AM
MST please name these malcontent blackguards immediately so we can protect our children from their evil influence.
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 11:20 AM
You know who you are HL ;0))
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Ask Cardiff fans !!!! remind me how much they spent?.
posted by Albertrn (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 2:02 PM
What has spending got to do with it?? Everton spent more than us last season and had to call in Alladyce to save their season.

There is no direct correlation between spending and success. Being a Fulham fan I'd have thought you'd have worked that out with the acquisition of players like Mitroglu, Marlet, Ruiz, etc. ;0).
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 2:30 PM
Don’t think Man City. Chelsea Man Utd Liverpool to name 4 would agree with that!!!where would these clubs be if they had spent the same as ffc on transfers in the last 4 years !!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 3:35 PM
Slightly wrong there look at top clubs and see what spending big done for them,what I said was how much did Cardiff spend in answer to your statement !ask Cardiff fans,they are just a couple of points behind us but spent nothing,wolves are putting on abetter show than us soo far and they spent a few bob, so spending does bring dividends eventually , I hope.
posted by Albertrn (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 3:57 PM
Don't forget the players you quoted did not want to play for us.
posted by Albertrn (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 3:59 PM
Len I don't see Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea winning much in recent years and City's spending hasn't all been successful in any case.

In terms of Cardiff they are playing with 15 out of 18 from last year's squad so of course they will have more cohesion than us but you might also remember that Cardiff finished above Fulham last season. Yes they are a couple of points behind us but we only have four points and we have only played five games! My point is that I would rather watch the football I am watching and have two points more than seeing the ball lumped up field for 90 minutes.

You pays your money and you makes your choice and all I am saying is give these guys time. When I introduce a new guy into my team it takes a year or so before they are fully integrated. I know football is slightly different (TIC) but these guys still hardly know each other personally let alone know each others idiosyncrasies on a football pitch.

Just my personal opinion....
posted by MST (Moderator) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 4:32 PM
Think they’ve been more successful than us in the last 4 years
posted by Len (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 10:21 PM
Think teams mentioned of top of my head have won twelve trophy’s and titles couple of euro finals semi finals do not include charity shields plus euro runs
posted by Len (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 8:37 AM
Lets also remember that last year come December we were 17th started getting our act together and made the playoffs. I'm not suggesting that we will do the same and make the Euros but that things sometimes take time and can change. Just because we are a bit disjointed at the moment doesn't mean it will continue for the remainder of the season.
posted by Hints - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 12:38 PM
It’s not just the negative posters who get personal and abusive, some of the posters on here do it if anyone disagrees with them.
posted by Rick (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 12:50 PM
A year to integrate!!!!!MST no wonder the economy is looking sad , if I said to my line director !give us a year !before I understand this job I would have been out the door that week .
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 3:51 PM
MST's Business as usual is a reasonable precis of our current position and the counter opinions make useful points too. Surely we all know the team will take several weeks to gel - and add more weeks for injuries to key players and players having off games. At least SJ has a choice of at least 2 players for every position (maybe not Mitrovic) and that has to be a reasonable starting place. I hope that SJ knows already what his best 11 is but he may not yet have everyone available. I give it until mid November provided we are above the bottom 3. After that I will start to worry.COYW
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 10:26 PM
MST, I think it would be a pretty bland message board if everyone subscribed to the feelgood group-think of 'glass half full'. While we may not necessarily agree with the sentiments of the doom merchants, their opinions are just as valid as anyone else's.
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Wow most of you have started to panic!!
Don't take long to get buried under leaves in a wind.Lets see poch get his tongue round that one.
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Who’s panicking you stupid boy !!!!!
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I've seen most EPL teams so far (taped) and the worst teams I've seen so far are BHA, Cardiff, West Ham and Burnley. Southampton will struggle too. If we can do better than such as these we will survive. I reckon it might be tighter than we all think. £100 million plus doesn't guarantee success. Playing a flexible game may help!
Southampton are 1 up against Brighton. They will be on 7 points if they win?
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:10 PM
Quite right Owen but then BHA seem to have the knack of getting last minute penalties. Finished 2-2.
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:54 PM
Southampton 2-Brighton 2. Exiting fare in the 2nd half, but it was pretty poor football, and more like a Championship game. If we finish below either of these sides this season, I will be gobsmacked, as we are a far better team than either of these outfits.
posted by NORMAN (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:58 PM
Be prepared to have your gob smacked
posted by Rm (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 7:28 AM
Still not feeling it
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Norman, you are quite right. I too will be surprised if we finish the season below either of these sides. In my opinion, on last night's showing, they will be two of the teams involved in the relegation battle, something which hopefully, we will not be.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:12 AM
Like Norman watched last nights match, and didn't see too much to worry about, and in our own " little league" they would appear to have as many if not more problems than we do!
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I'm surprised we even tried to play them at their own game. Sloppy errors that sank = well actually Spurs at home to Liverpool. But how true of our folly to go to Manchester City away and think we could play with guile. The need for a defence is now critical or will be by Christmas. I advised by Joe Hart for £5 mill and was told I was an idiot. He gets man of the match on Saturday and in the weeks team of best players. We get two goalkeepers who cannot talk English. How much help he could have been to Marus Bettinelli. We never got a sniff and desevered nothing better. They are a top team and showed it. Our best player Christie on a weekend Fredericks could not even get a game! Mawson looks out of sorts still maybe he has come back too soon. The ball to Mitrovic any which way would have been better. We must learn before Watford tear us apart.
Joe Hart!! Your having a laugh,he’s had a couple of decent games for a very poor side,did you watch him against us?
posted by Mike (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:00 PM
Hart let in 4 against us..... we do need to get a solid and consistent defence though. Not sure why he’s mixing it up apart from spreading the load and focussing more on the opposition we are currently competing with. I’m not sure who thinks we are in the same space as City and Spurs just now, next year perhaps.....but give us a chance to get the experience and all will be well.
posted by Dellers (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 9:15 PM
The two new keepers have forced Bett's to up his game and fight for his spot, he has improved in my opinion, made the england squad so we have a keeper who is being kept honest by two decent keepers rather than Button... i would rather have Betts all day long over Joe Hart.
posted by Adam (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 9:42 AM
Happen to think our keeper is equally if not better th@n Hart !!!
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our backline is a bit of a chaos at the moment. until Ream comes back - we must stablise the four. For me until then, we have to stick with the following: Mensah, Odoi, Mawson, Bryant. NO MORE CHANGES.
Who's Bryant ? At least get their names right
posted by Confused (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 4:45 PM
I woke up with the same feeling. Not having Freddo or Targett or Ream has hurt us - think how few mistakes those three made last year. Virtually error free. Plus excellent service and runs forward. Meanwhile, Freddo wasn’t even on the bench for West Ham on Saturday, Targett is behind Bertrand at Southampton. We do need to give the current team more time, but not sure they will measure up to last year’s standards.
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We all know the top 6 is the top 6 virtually guaranteed. The rest of us are fighting for survival, or a top 7 to 10 spot (which is really good). As I pointed out previously, this season is about finding our feet again in the EPL. It will take time with a big insurgence of new players that need time to blend in. So, we lost our first 2 games. No worries. We are then left with 36 games. Divide these into 6 blocks of 6 games each. Block 1; Burnley (3 pts), Brighton (1 pt), Man City (0 pts) = total so far 4 points. We need an average of 7 points each block of 6 games, therefore we need just 3 points from our next 3 games, Watford (H), Everton (A) & Arsenal (H). 3 tough matches, but each block of 6 games will throw up difficult games. We really need to be winning 2 out of 3 home games and picking up a point between the 3 away ones. That gives us our 7 points each block. SIMPLE LOGIC ISN'T IT? LET'S SEE HOW IT PANS OUT...
Wow - I have to do a refresher on my university statistics to understand. Keep it simple - we need another 33-36 points! I am confident we can get that since I believe we can beat many of the non-top 6 teams. Look at Everton - you'd think they would be the best outside top 6 - even they are more than beatable! Let's not beat ourselves for losing to Man City. Next week against Watford will be the real test to see if we are good enough for the upper half of the rest!
posted by John (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 12:09 PM
Understand your logic Kenny. Bit that worries me is having to win two out of three of our home games, at present even one out of three looks a tall order! Certainly need a win against Watford to get us going again!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 12:14 PM
i think its as much about moral and energy this season. i think the management are more than happy to win 3 - 1 then loose 2 - 0 then win 3 - 2 then loose 3 - 0 if they feel that before the match it is either a winnable game or a game not worth getting low about losing. if its an away draw like at brighton it's worth being criticalof the players, because i bet slavisa and his team thought we could win that before the game. playing with this mindset will give the palyers confidence to stick to the same system all season. watford have won 4 games this season yet i bet the management and team genuinly expect we should beat them on saturday. if it works for us this way this season then i bet we will invest a little more for next season and identify a few more games that we should win next year. i also think the one game this year the management would be genuinly disappointed with would be the crystal palace game. other than that i bet they are quite happy therefore they need make sure the players are happy confident and at peace with themselve, and that includes just being beaten 3 - 0. i love the energy coming out of fulham at the moment. i think we'll put wtaford away on saturday and most teams in the league will start to mark fulham at craven cottage as a bastard of a fixture.
posted by gary w (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:04 PM
Energy and the second half of the City game were mutually exclusive. I've heard, and accept, most of the "early days" comments, but basically they gave up after half time. That's not conditioning, although that needs major improvement, but a deficit in mental resolve.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:32 PM
I can see Watford bruising us of the park on sat,if S/J plays sess at full back we are cooked.Means Bryant will be on bench and if Christie play on other side will be a long 90 minutes,viello seems lost at the moment,the c/backs still not sure who is best ,this is going to be a very tough season,with palace and w/ham winning don't take long to drop into bottom 3 then heads drop.
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:45 PM
Watford will most likely be a bruising encounter. It will help the likes of Marchand out if Kev Mac and big Mitro come to defend at set pieces and corners. To be honest, Deeney is a lot to handle. Mawson could have a better game this time around, he needs more game-time. Our strengths will come from keeping ball possession and we will need to do that to have any chance of winning this game. We have plenty of dangers in our attack to score goals, so we can win. Defence needs sorting though.
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 2:50 PM
Not that difficult to grasp !!! Was thinking 4 points from next two after seeing Everton Sunday not to impressed Watford think we will score against them arsenal we don’t have much luck against them at ffc. Might be due some !!!
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In a very perceptive post Gary wrote "management knew we could never beat/draw with Manchester City". What then, other than money, is the point of being in the PL? In fact, what is the point of the PL? If Gary's analysis is correct, and I believe it is, we're just practise fodder for the top six. Where's the fun in that?
Sadly, the Premiership is about as fun as swimming in a tank of sharks. It’s exciting, vibrant, nerve wracking and Adrenalin fuelling, but, at the end of the day, you know you aren’t going to survive forever
posted by Rm (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 5:04 AM
You should listen to the podcast by Men in Blazers: https://meninblazers.com/2018/09/10/mibpod-shad-kahn-special/ it maight explain what The Guvnor has in mind: firstly survival then taking on the best teams... I recommend it regardless.
posted by Hints - Monday 17th September 2018, 11:15 AM
Regardless of what? I saw it and it's good PR but I don't have to swallow it wholesale.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:35 PM
Right so management thought we could never win at city so what’s his thinking does he go for parking the bus (Huddersfield ) or say we will play football ( and get bashed in all probability ) to be fair one or two questionable positional starters. Sess for one at left back poor choice in view of city’s expansive play but we got of reasonably lightly against the best team in the league and we as the majority of pundits say played ok and tried to play football not to disappointed overall think ffc can be reasonably Pleased with themselves and manager will presumably play the game the right way ( only downside we should not have coceded two goals at Brighton from a winning position
posted by Len (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 7:09 PM
All of the above Len, but I'll give you three basics; Lack of pace, lack of space and lack of spirit. Never mind the technical stuff, there three basic tenets were missing. Slow and cumbersome in the build up (such as it was given the number of give-aways), no creating space off the ball (and no service to Mitro at all) and no effort worth a mention in the entire second half. They basically put heir hands up and accepted their fate. You can argue technicalities until the cows come home but to surrender is simply unacceptable.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 17th September 2018, 8:35 PM
I don't believe the team gave up but they really struggled against a team that knew what it was doing. Could argue that 2 sloppy give aways within minutes of start/restart - another day we may have lost 1-0.Arizona is right though to say lack of pace and no creating space off the ball. The latter is a real worry. Continually short passing is almost guaranteed to be stopped/intercepted. SJ should get his possession game to include a few long and successful passes. That is, get the ball away from the pack. If you want to see fast attacking possession football, Wolves are pretty good!
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 8:57 PM
Spurs too, as Tripier demonstrated at the Cottage
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SJ statement that he would not put 11 men in the box worries me.If we are playing a team where we are odds on to lose then losing by one instead of five should be the aim.Sticking to OUR STYLE is all very well but not at te cost of a goal difference which may mean relegation. Survival is the name of game in this league.Rather the odd boring game than the prospects of playing QPR next season.
Stop, think & enjoy. Things could be different or worst.. We could be watching long balls over & out... so support COYW
posted by Mac (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 9:45 PM
Well, I can see some logic in playing the same style against better players and getting better st it such that you might pick up more points against lesser teams. After all 1 extra point is worth more than any goal difference. However. That approach seems harder to justify when it seems the back 4 is chosen by drawing lots. Having said that I personally, I have faith that will improve and accept we don’t know if there were any issues with the players coming back. Also, we will get many more points in the long unbeaten run thyhats scheduled to start in January.
posted by JimmyJazz (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 9:58 PM
Slav knows what he is doing. He is playing players for experience. No matter what 11 you turned out we would lose at Man City. Thank god he picked a team to have a go and learn unlike Jol our 5-0 at Lpool. If you pick 10 defenders as some are suggesting you get nothing from the game. As it is Ryan S has learnt. Scherule knows he is in that class and Mitro knows he needs to drop off to get the ball.
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:06 PM
Well, I can see some logic in playing the same style against better players and getting better st it such that you might pick up more points against lesser teams. After all 1 extra point is worth more than any goal difference. However. That approach seems harder to justify when it seems the back 4 is chosen by drawing lots. Having said that I personally, I have faith that will improve and accept we don’t know if there were any issues with the players coming back. Also, we will get many more points in the long unbeaten run thats scheduled to start in January.
posted by JimmyJazz (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:19 PM
Another one of the last years november moaners H B, ffs give the team time to gel. Feckin moan moan W@@kers here. Rome wasn't built in a day, ffs.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 12:14 AM
Yeah, but we wer'nt on that job
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Too young
Great talent, but not a lucky man. Deserved more.
posted by The Arizonan - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:24 PM
Agreed. Yet another footballing great who ended up on skid row, highlighting the gulf between those guys and today's over-indulged, over-tattood and overpaid players.
posted by Bacchus (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 3:08 PM
Just a final word on Alistair Cook. A very modest man who seemed pleased to have in his own words " a half decent career"Maybe we will never see the likes of his type representing his country again.
posted by Harry (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 4:27 PM
Great player. Did a Gazza after his playing days were over. He used to drink in the Tabbard Inn, Ipswich run by Alan Sunderland who also finished up in ReHab. Our Bobby Robson signed him after Liverpool FC failed to meet him off the train as a youngster at Liverpool Lime Street. Something Bill Shankley never forgave himself for. Brilliant centre back for club and country what more can you say. Probably only Bobby Moore in my lifetime was better.
posted by Rich of Cambridge (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 8:12 PM
Doubt I will !!! Great batsman and captain of his country and a great role model !,
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Wish we had sold Sessignon & bought Grealish.
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posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 1:13 PM
Watching that game one thing was certain the entire team looked knakkered,passes going astray,almost looked like they were waiting for final whistle.100 mill plus spent so far amounts to nothing , s/j don't seem to know what to do with back 4 , keeps changing it never the same ,sess full back again !! why?, never did nothing ,his value is dropping by the week. Bryant and sess in front of him,christie out,mawson and chambers in middle for now ,can see Watford roughing us up we look so soft easy to take out ,Watford bruisers will chance there arm and it will be bash st kids versus snooties mob,(for older viewers). Keep comparing us to Bournmouth with any over seas players, my yard stick for now.
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:23 PM
Sorry meant not many overseas players.and yes know it was city.
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:27 PM
We were playing against one of the best teams in Europe,I was at the match and apart from a couple of sloppy passes and defensive errors we gave a very good account of ourselves,anybody who expects to match a team of that ability so early on in the season should go and support Chelsea or Tottenham to avoid future disappointments
posted by Mike (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:38 PM
No different against palace or brighton ,wolves never had any trouble with city,they went for it ,we just seemed to be the victims of awfull tactics
posted by the arch bishop (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:47 PM
Wolves have been playing together a lot longer than us. For gods sake give it time. It will come good trust me im a lorry driver
posted by geezer (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 3:15 PM
Sessegnon is only 18, how can we put so much pressure on him? Playing left back against City and bombing up and down the wing to do defensive duties is too much to ask. He was on a hiding to nothing. Marchands flakey reputation stays intact for another week. He will be put back into the arena and who awaits him? One Troy Deeney!!! We need Bryan and Reamy back. We can excuse Mawson because it was really his first proper game back. This league can be a bit physical, with the likes of Deeney. He hangs out with Joshua and he isn't messing about. We need defenders to stand up and be counted. If we move the ball well like we did against Burnley, we have a great chance of beating Watford. We could do with Cairney back in midfield also...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:15 PM
Needed you back Owen nice and positive
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:18 PM
Thanks, DMK i will try and stay that way...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:36 PM
Desperate to get Ream back
posted by Rm (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 7:32 PM
Sold Sess. You don’t go to games mate and are a Brentford fan or should I be. He is one of our own and will get 100 caps. YKFA
posted by Phil (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:08 PM
Still not feeling it.
posted by Rick (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:21 PM
Unless we get our act together sooner rather than later Mr Sessegon and his brother will be long gone. Fact. He needs the other members of our squad to start playing as Premiership players as he is still very much developing. If Tottenham think he is going there for £40 mill they can think again. If I was Ryan I would aim for one of the Manchester teams or Liverpool if they can afford him and I would stick out for £100 mill and take £80 mill if push comes to. But he has still not signed another contract with Fulham yet so could we see him walk away like a certain Mr Moussa Dembelle? Wonder if we are going to get any of the £80 mill that Celtic FC got from Olympique Lyonnais?
posted by Rich of Cambridge (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 8:21 PM
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When you face teams teams like Man City, Man U,Liverpool, Chelsea . Arsenal & Spurs they all have World class players who will punish any mistakes made by the opposition. We have several very good players who once they have settled into the side will hopefully earn us enough points to survive our first year back which is realy what we want. Anything above the bottom three will in my humble opinion will be a bonus.
There are two leagues in the premier league. We all know that! If premier league was golf, the top six teams would be scratch golfers and the rest are handicap 10 or more. But it doesn’t mean the gap with an handicap can f 10 can never beat the scratch golfers. A bit of luck and a bit more game management - you’d never know.
posted by John (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 1:09 PM
Well rest assured wherever we finish in the table, it will surely not be in the bottom three. Although we have been here before, we are once again beginners in the Premier League, and as such it might take a little time to find our feet, but we will. Believe it or not, we have a really good squad of players, who once they really gel we will start winning on a regular basis, and although we will not tear up any trees in our first season back, we will finish the season in a healthy position in the table, probably around the 10th or 11th spots. That folks is really all we can ask for, before pushing on next season.
posted by Brian Jarvis (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 1:59 PM
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What’s up with bbc? They show every two bit shot of City but don’t even show Mitros shot which needed a serious save right at the end.
Does it really matter- we were second best all over the pitch today so what does that shot amount to
posted by Dave g (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 2:17 AM
Baz, we have far bigger issues than the BBC to contend with!
posted by Rm (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:58 AM
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I know when someone plays well ( most of the time) and I know when they played badly, I’m not qualified to suggest tactics, 3 at the back 4-4-2 or even 1-10, but I do know when the team selection is sh*t and it was today. No matter what way I look at it I cannot begin to fathom what Jokanovic was thinking. Why no Bryan ? (he is a left back) Why no Menhsa, he’s twice the player Christie is. Both have, when given the opportunity, been playing better in these positions than anyone else. Why Sessingnon at left back again, unbelievable? As someone said when Odoi( and I love him) is your best defender you’ve got problems. Defence is our problem, we’re not playing the players most suited to the position and seemingly perming any 4 from whatever. Hallo, they don’t know what they’re doing! As for substitutions, when we’re being run ragged, I know what to do, beef up the defence....nah! let’s switch front men that should work. Flaming clueless. We were lucky we didn’t ship 10.
7 or 8 of the players played today are from last year's team! So we put out a championship team against probably the best team in Europe and tried to play football against them. No Chance! But I think part of the issue is neither Schrulle or Vietto defended! Against a good team we need our wide players running up and down all day long! Both players appear to be playing higher up than Mitro. I am not sure we can blame everything on the boss - he can't control mistakes!
posted by John (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 11:04 PM
all you do is moan mortlake same as you did last november, call yourself a supporter, 1st season back in premiership we know our shortcomings with 11/12 new signings and they need time to gel. So do me a favour shut ya gash and see how we go in november then moan again, you miserable old fcuk.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 11:45 PM
Hmmm, charming. He's entitled to his opinion, as you are to yours except his is much better stated. Your post, on the other hand, is a rant. Is "wait and see" all you've got? If so, why bother posting?
posted by The Arizonan - Sunday 16th September 2018, 12:48 AM
Spot on Mortlake
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:25 AM
Also it won’t be as tough as that every week .Man City have the best players best manager and richest owners and they were at home so let’s focus on getting results against the others and don’t beat ourselves up too badly about yestrtdays result
posted by FFC supporter (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 6:33 AM
Know we were playing class team and other games won’t be so hard but tactics and team selection were bad today spot on Mortlake
posted by DMK (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 8:23 AM
Agree DMK didn't expect anything at all but his team selection and tactics baffled me. Several players were just overrun and didn't have a clue what to do.
posted by the pope (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 8:56 AM
Thanks for the support Arazonan :) Never Say Die you are without the most offensive gutter snipe on here. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you post a comment expressing any opinion, only your snide bile. As to my constantly moaning, I think not, you appear to have an inferiority complex and comment only on those posts of mine that could be said to be critical. My comments were valid and quite a number of posters would appear to agree with the content, whereas yours I suspect would garner very little support. Just give it up, I am obviously far more lucid in my comments and intelligent than you. Suggest you cut your loses and stop embarrassing yourself.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:16 AM
Not to question jokas tactics but sess left back no we have better full backs at club as much as I like sess have the occasional doubt on his value justification !! But he’s still young and hope I’m proved wrong !!!!
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:29 AM
Mortlake right we got of lightly today but we played the best team in the land and we g@ve them a goal start doubt we will have a settled side for at least a month so we need to be competitive with teams around us and keep that gap between us and bottom three expect two be below us most of year and the way hammers are going points will be hard to come by for a few weeks have not looked at others yet need something saturday expect at least a draw
posted by Len (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 10:37 AM
he clearly wants to use bryan and mensha against watford, millwall and everton because these are games we can win. it's important to put sessegnoin in against the best players because he is going to develop over the next few seasons and desperatly needs this kind of experience. why not play that back line yesterday, they are good enough to play in the premier league, odoi is probably the quickest of all the center back and city weren't going to be hoping for set pieces to score, it was all going to come along the ground. I think if he had played his strongest line up at the back the result would have been the same with the exception of perhaps losing a bit more morale and sessignion and christie would miss out on game time as they won't be starting the next two games. the results are about the course of the season not individual games. the management knew we would never beat/draw at city
posted by gary w (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 12:01 PM
To be fair it looked like SJ purposely played the defence high up to try and frustrate MC.However after the first goal it was apparent this tactic was not going to work.That was the time to change tactics.
posted by HARRY LONGBALL (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 12:17 PM
Yep, I agree with all that Len. Gary w. makes some very interesting points. Hadn’t looked at it from that standpoint and you could well be right, makes sense. As I said before, I steer as far from tactics and strategies as I can and try to restrict my comments to what I’ve seen on the pitch. Leave the clever bits to those better qualified.
posted by Mortlake (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 1:59 PM
Tactics, strategies whatever used against City, i would still think that Marchand needs game-time in that left back position more than Sessegnon. We were always going to lose whatever, but Sess would have benefited and been more useful further up the pitch. That detail still makes no sense, and i think that Slavisa knew it was a suicide and thankless task playing Sess left back. I think he had that script written even before kick-off. Nevertheless, that game was a rest-bite for the likes of Marchand. He will need to show his swashbuckling abilities up against sabre-teeth Troy Deeney next game. It doesn't get any easier this prem life and all our back four whoever is put out on the pitch need to grow a pair and find more character and play together or we fold into meltdown. Our midfield need to keep that ball also, that is imperative...
posted by OWEN (Guest) - Monday 17th September 2018, 1:09 PM
mortlake, its as simple as this, we have assembled a new squad over 100 million spent an unprecedented move by our owners who have shown their intent by backing Joka and you lower than a SEWER RAT consistently moan whilst I back my team thru thick and thin. If there is no upturn in form fine, maybe back to the drawing board but Joka and Fulham have my 100%. Back your team and stop moaning. Simple as that.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 12:20 AM
You need to wind your neck in son and stop insulting people. When you grow up you might understand why.
posted by The Arizonan - Tuesday 18th September 2018, 5:53 AM
The time i wind my neck in is when the moaners give our team a chance to gel, if it don't work then you ll have a legitimate right to complain 2 or 3 months down the line. Is that alright Ari.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Wednesday 19th September 2018, 6:20 PM
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I am not sure who replace Gray as our defensive coach? If that’s Parker -that’s a big mistake! It took Stuart 18months to sort out our defence. I know Premier league cannot compare with the championship but we have definitely gone backwards! We’ve had defence calamity in 3 of our 5 games so far! Where was the discipline. When Odoi is your best defender, you know you have a lot of work to do! We need to sort that out soon. We can’t giift our oppositions goals and when under attack, we need to have a shape! Bring back Stuart Gray!
Play Chambers and Mawson together as centre backs like they played together in the England under 21’s , Bryan at left back and Fonsou Mensa on the right and hope Ream when fit challenges the centre pairing and teach Le Marchand how to pass to someone in a Fulham shirt out from the back. Odoi is reckless
posted by Keetch54 - Saturday 15th September 2018, 8:53 PM
Stuart Gray was a far bigger loss to us than Fredericks.
posted by Ollie (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 1:05 PM
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We need someone with prem experience call Big SAM
You stupid boy!
posted by Capt Mainwaring (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 5:30 PM
We all wanted top flight football, well this is what it's all about.There were a few dreamers amongst our fans who thought we might finish in the top six. We now know we will have to be at our best to pick up polnts against the so called lesser sides And the next game will another severe test!
posted by Harry (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:10 PM
Some supporters on here make me sick. Not one of us if we are truthful expected anything other than a loss today, and by all accounts we played very well and we could have had a couple of goals in the second half. Today we played one of the best sides in Europe, who are favourites for not only the League title, but the Europa Cup, as well. Just see how many, if any win at Manchester this season, probably not any, and they will lose by bigger margins. We can judge how much we have improved when we play City at home in the second half of the season. Next Saturday we are home to Watford, a club on our level, so hopefully our season will be back on track.
posted by A C (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:11 PM
Well played
posted by Ipitombi (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:27 PM
Big Sam; what planet are you on Pete? As for AC's comment, he couldn't have seen the game that I watched. We were awful and SJ's style was totally exposed. Don't write us off just yet though. May is a long way off. COYW
posted by willie2B (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:36 PM
Watfrod our level just watched them play ManU were not at there level yet lot to learn but big Sam you must be joking
posted by DMK (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 7:36 PM
I was hopeful it would be a goal fest for both sides. Like most have said ManC are top for a reason. I'm not to down hearted with the score it was expected. Bring on Watford Coyw....
posted by Mac (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 8:30 PM
Man City are in the Champions League not Europa. They were in charge all second half and if they tried they could have got more. Mitro nearly got one right at the end.They were so fast when they arracked and we were slow and some of our attacks ended with us passing back to Betts who saved us a number of times. If we are to play passing games then our passes need to be much better, City’s first goal was from a woeful pass, I had a good view of it.
posted by BAZ (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 10:13 PM
Do us a favour , support Brentford you tosser. fat sam no way.
posted by Never say Die ! (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 11:26 PM
I was at today's game, and it was a long drive home, but I was home in time to watch MOTD. You would have thought from what they showed on the TV, that we were completely outplayed, and to a degree we were at times, but we had a number of slight chances, and they did not show Mitro's chance near the end that brought out a really good save from their keeper. We will play a lot worse tan we did today and win, so don't go losing any sleep over this one result, and look forward to our next home game, when we have a very good chance of beating Watford, and then go on a small run of unbeaten matches. COYW
posted by NORMAN (Guest) - Sunday 16th September 2018, 12:12 AM
Well said, Norman !
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We need to be fielding two teams this year - a defensive one against the top 6, an offensive team against the rest. That team, with Schurrle and Vietto, was chosen today and never had a chance. The side Joka picked against Spurs was much more likely to compete. Sess in a defensive role against City, not a good idea. But also — teams are waiting for our square passes and pouncing. Mistakes are killing us!!!!!
If we fielded a defensive team we’d still lost anyway and some of us would criticise why we didn’t it a go. If we didn’t lose and goal in the first minute, by the way not only that killed the teams confidence, It also killed Seri’s (our only creative player) contribution for the rest of the game, the game could be different. But city is just too good for us - end of! Don’t start blaming team selections and tactics.
posted by John (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 5:21 PM
Sess should not be playing left back he needs to play in front of a left back or not play at all in defensive matches like this . Bryan should be allowed time to form an understanding with Sess down the left and Schurrle should play in the middle behind Mitro . The manager is struggling to find his best team as he did last year but the Premiership is not so forgiving . COYWS
posted by ffc supporter (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 5:58 PM
Sorry, disagree. Vietto especially was a mistake. Sess offers more tracking back and Bryan is a better defender than Sess right now. Not saying we would win, but there were better options.
posted by Drago (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 6:01 PM
Was not happy with side before game needed Sessegnon in front of Byron today Seri mistake did kill game but he’s been great can’t blame him. We would of needed bit of luck to get anything today. But must cut out mistakes and get street wise quick pretty football alone won’t keep us up there is times when you must clear your lines that’s why we did not win at Brighton
posted by DMK (Guest) - Saturday 15th September 2018, 7:46 PM

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